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CARNARVON HARBOUR TRUST. The Proposed Bridge over the Aber. The monthly meeting of the Trust was held on Tuesday morning at the Harbour Offices, under the presidency of the HOll F. G. Wynn (chairman). The other members ^present were, Mr Menzies (vice-chairmau), Col. Ruck, Major F. Turner, Major Paynter. Dr J. J. Williams, Messrs J. Issard Davies, 0. Roberts, G. R. Bees, T. Owen, J. Pritchard, W. Ll. Griffith, J. Robinson, D. P. Williams, T. M. Lloyd, T. Robinson, Thomas Hughes, M. T. Morris Messrs W. Bowen Jones (surveyor) and Henry Owen (collector). FINANCIAL. The Finance Committee reported that the receipts for the past month were as follows Im- ports £ 88 2s, corresponding period last year, £ 60 Is 103 • exports, £ 45 7s 5d, last year, £ 84 Os 6d; tonnage, £55 \9s 7d, last year £ ol 9s 10d; pass- ing tolls, zC5 Is, last year, ±5 13s; yards, wharfes, 1 offices &c., JE119 198 7d wharfes last year, C.94 6s 7dj :total £ 314 9s 7d, last year, £ 296 ls9d. There was a balance of JE4297 in favour of the Trust. SLATES SHIPPED. During the month of September 7746 tons of slates were shipped from the harbour compared with 7597 tons for the corresponding month of last year. For the months of July, August, and September the quantity shirked was 22,887 tons, as against 20,916 tons for the corresponding period of the previous year. Mr J. Menzies (chairman of the Finance Com- mittee) observed that the receipts for the past month had been unusually heavy, and the exporta- tion of states was constantly increasing. The Chairman: It snows that the times are improving, EXTRA CHARGE FOR WATER. Mr Menzies referred to an item in the report of the Finance Committee to the effect that the Corporation had made a charge of 5s per cent upon the contract money for water in connection with the improvements new in progress at the new harbour. Mr J. Issard Davies explained that it was cus- tomary' for the Corporation to charge extra for water in connection with new buildings. Mr J. Menzies remarked that a charge had never been made before. Mr J. Robinson Don t pay it. The minutes of the committee were adopted, it being resolved to pay the amount claimed. VOTE OF CONDOLENCE. The Chairman observed that since the last meeting of the Trust death bad again visited them and taken away one of the members. Ha referred to the late Lord Alexander Paget, who, though he had not been long a member, took a great interest in the Board, and bad attended its meetings as well as he could. He thought it would be a graceful act to pass a vote of condol- ence with his widow, Lady Alexander Paget, and his brother, the Mai qais of Anglesey. Mr J. Robinson seconded, and it was unani- mously aSree^^ri0iT OF A TRUSTEE. Mr Issard Davies, in the absence of Mr R. Thomas, moved the election of Mr Hugh Jones, Marble Works, to the vacancy on the Trust caused by the death of Capt Elias. That gentleman's name he said, had been withdrawn on two former occasions, and seeing that there was another va- cancy on the Trust he suggested that the Board should not divide, as Mr E. Hughes, who had bee" nominated at the previous meeting, could be proposed at the next meeting. Mr J. Robinson seconded, and the motion was agreed to. Mr Davies' suggestion respecting Mr E. Hughes being acted upon. A COMPLAINT. A communication was read from the Utfntrvon, Liverpool, and Menai Straits Steamship Company complaining that the works now carried on by the company's warehouse blocked the way to the north end of the building, thereby causing inconvenience and loss to their customers. The company would be pleased if the Trust could make a passage for vehicles to the north end of the warehouse. Mr J. Issard Davies was not aware that the com- pany jthad a right to utilize the rcadway to the north end of the warehouse. Mr Menzies There is nothing now to be done but complete the works. The Surveyor said that the remaining portion of the work would be finished by the end of the year if the weather was not so bad as it had been. On the motion of Mr J. Issard Davies, seconded by Mr Menzies, it was resolved that a letter be sent to the company in the terms of the explana- tion offered by the surveyor. THE SURVEYOR'S REPORT. The Surveyor reprrted as follows :-The unpre- cedented storm and high tide 9f Thursday, the 8th October caused considerable damage to the timber groin at Abermenai, several of the larger piles having uprooted and broken at various places for a considerable length. Almost the whole of the backing, which was partly rotted, was also carried away and the accumulation of sand between the two groins disappeared. I am pleased to re- port that after such an exceptional trial only in one place and that at the western end was there iinv'trace of the formation of a breach over the whofe length of the arm, but;there were indications that the waves must have washed over a large Dorticn of the lower levels. The breach reierred to was made at the wall which is at the west end through its exposure after the removal of the sand around it, and a small gutter was made in the weakest part. This section has now been made good, and the wall built up and strengthened and raised with a quantity of sandbags, and I feel con- fident that it will within a space of two or three years' time be well protected by substantial sand dnnts, provided there is no similar disturbance to the experienced. The missing timber has been mostly recovered, and is being; replaced. The itorm blowing from the south caused a quantity of shingle to travel westward from the point in front oi Belan, which has mostly been deposited between that p&Tt and the hut. I anticipate that the work of repair will be complete about the end of next week, leaving the whole secure for the coming winter. The expenditure has been £ 28. New works The springs of the early part of the month being accompanied by westerly winds were again unfavourable fo* low tide wont. The lower courser of the outside wall of the extension of the new slip has, therefore, not been completed. A length of about 70 feet of the inner wall of the present slip has been put back the required length. The cost 'of the work is JE 1087. Mr Menzies considered that the report was very satisfactory respecting Abermenai, and they might congratulate themselves upon the result. Mr T. Owen said they could very well do so, as he never saw such a place as it was some years ago. THE BOARD OF TRADE AND THE PROPOSED BRIDGE OVER THE ABER. The Chairman read correspondence that had passed between the Trust and the Board of Trade respecting the application of the former for per- mission to construct a bridge across the River Seiont at Aber Ferry. This matter came under the consideration of the Trust in July when a letter Avas read from the Board of Trade stating that they were unable to give their sanction to the proposed works until the Trustees had come to some arrangement with them for the acquisition of the Crown rights in the tidal lands whieh would be occupied thereby. They were prepared to grant the Trustees, in consideration of the sum of £1, a conveyance of the rights and interests of the Crown in so much of the foreshore and bed of the River Seiont at Aber Ferry below high water mark as would be required for the purposes of the' works in question. Some of the Trustees then contended that the consent of the Board of Trade was not necessary, as the land was vasled in the Trust, and was their property. A sllall committee was appointed to draw out a reply to the letter referred to. Subsequently the Board of Trade wrote calling attention to section 2 of the General Pier and Harbour Act, Amendment Act, i%2, under which Act the Car- narvon Harbour Order 'S77 was made. The Board were advised that the povrors of the Trustees to execute works authorised by cecu. r 4 01 L::4 Order ceased 6n the 28th of June, 1882, and the Board 01 Trade could not, therefore, give their consent to the construction of the bridge under the provisions of the Order, Attention was futthex called to section 15 of the Order by which it was enacted that the Order should not be taken as coasenting to the surrender of any rights, interests, or powers, &e., transferred to the management of the Board of Trade by the Crown Lands Act, 1866. The ¡' Board assumed that the Trustees had power other than those with which they were vested by the Order of 1877 to construct the bridge in question, and they would be prepared to assent to the works ) being proceededtwith upon the Trustees comply- ing with the conditions contained in the previous letter from the Department. In reply to the foregoing the following letter was sent to the Board of Trade by the Trustees:- I am directed by the Trustees to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the 6th August last on the subject of their application for permission to construct a bridge accross the river Seiont at Aber Ferry. The Trustees were advised that section 12 of the General Pier and Harbour Act, 1861, Amendment Act, 1862, only places a limit upon the right of the undertakers of any work to use the powers conferred upon them bo the Provisional Order and does not limit the necessity of ob- taining the consent of your Board under section 4 of the Order of 1877 to any harbour works carried out under any other Parliamentary authority. They beg to submit that the consent of your Board is only required for,the purpose ofjpreventing injury to navigation, and that the Provisional Or- der contains nothing by which the Trustees lose their right under the Act ot 1793 to u"e without payment the shore of the Crown within the limits of the harbour required for the purpose of their works and which right they have hitherto exercised without question." Replying to the letter of the Trustees, the Board of Trade wrote as follows :—" With further refer- ence to your letter of the 14th instant, relative to the application of the Carnarvon Harbour Trust for permission to construct a bridge across the river Seiont at Aber Ferry I am now directed by the Board of Trade to request that you will favour the Board with a reference to the stthus in the Act of 1793 (33 George III., c. 123), under which it is assumed that the tidal land in the harbour of Carnarvon are vested in the Trustees." Mr Menzies said that the Board of Trade wanted to make out for the first time that the Trustees should pay them an annual rent on account of any improvements that might be made to the harbour. The Trustees bad exercised the rights they now possessed for 103 years, and he maintained it was quite clear, according to section 10, that the land in question was vested in the Trust. The question vfes one of great importance, and it had been thought advisable to ascertain tho opinion of counsel upon it. After further discussion, it was resolved to furnish the Board of Trade with the information asked for.













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