The North Wales Express

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I WELSH TRIBAL SYSTEM. The Tribal System in Wales. By Frederic Seebohm. (Longmans). Aberffraw, in its) lonely outpost on the shores of Anglesey, with ies sand-dunes, primitive streets, and almost pre-historic air, has long inspired a I feeling for its part in the romantic past of Wales, as the decayed seat of Llewelyn the Last and the Welsh princes before him. To find it converted into a modern instance in economic history by so remarkable an historian as Mr Seebohm is what one had little expected. And yet it is enough to read the first few pages of the present volume to see how admirably it fits his purpose. In his now twelve-year-old book on "The English;Village Community," Mr Seebohm used much corroborative evidence from Celtic sources, and devoted one chapter in particular to the Welsh tribal system; in which tVe germs of his later work may be found. But there is no hint there of the rich field in Anglesey and in Denbigh that he now exploits to such effect. Possibly his services upon the Welsh Land Commission led him to the dis- I covery of these remote Welsh manors, and the wealth of subject-matter which Aborffraw, Ros, and Rowaynok held ready to be unlocked; and if so, it is one good result at least to' be credited to that much-travelled and much-abused Board. Writing in the midst of Aberffraw itself, the present reviewer is tempted to linger over the j local evidence, which serves Mr Seebohm with his j basis and to add various irrevelant details from local tradition. Llewelyn is said to have bad a castle, or considerable tower, as well as his palace, II the two being connected by the subterranean passage commonly supplied by popular credit in I such cases. But the only positive signs, beside the j church, the ancient allotment gardens, and the village itself, are the Gardd Llys, the palace gar- dens, and a depression in the tield hard by, where it is said the palace stood, As to the startlingly complete obliteration of the rest, one can only point to the surrounding farm-buildings, and to I the fragments of finer masonry in old walls and the primitive cottages of the place, which seem to have absorbed all that was once the pride of I medieval Wales and so considering, still feel sur- | prised. The day will soon come, I hope, when | some other historian will treat of Aberffraw on the side which does not come within Mr Seebohrn's scope. I Mr Seebohm is indeed very careful to confine himself strictly to the scientific limits of his sub- ject: even mere so, I think, than in his volume on the English village community. He does not allow himself, as he did there, the slight luxury of the comparative method; and sticks to his text with a logical severity which may sometimes try the patience of the unilluminated, but which adds considerably to the unity and the exact value of his present contribution to economic history. In the face of a hundred difficulties, some of which, it is obvious, were increased for him by his being debarred from purely Welsh sonrces (for Mr Seebohm tells us he has no Welsh)—difficulties of which those wlio have not wrestled with the dark angels of theRecoid Office can have small con- ception—he has amassed an amount of material I; from the cryptic Latin-Welsh of the old Norman scribes, and their Extents of Anglesey and Denbigh, and thrown it into such a form that his volume sets the inquiry into the origins of Welsh tribal society on a completely new basis, and a I very convincing and stable one. He takes first, iu his account of Aberffraw, the economic conditioning of the manor, with its five carucates of land, three mills, two meadows, and sea-fishery, its lord of the manor's demesne, and its free weles and unfree outlying hamlets; and gathers up with striking particularity the evidence of the customary tribal liabilities of the tenants under such a prince as Llewelyn the Last, and at later periods. Beginning thus simply, he builds up for us the whole comparatively complex structure of the early land system in Anglesey, He shows how lasting were its effects: as in the distinction betwixt the free and the villein hamlets, which lingers on in the annual returns to the Woods and Forests up to the present time. This may serve to suggest the extraordinary tenacity of the Welsh tribal system, whose in- tegral structure continued to hold good from the first coming of Cunedda to the conquest of Edward I., and then again, in spite of plague, pestilence, and famine, and the slow assay of time until the final institution of the English law under Henry VIII. A facile allusion to Howell the Good has too often, it may be admitted, been the explanation given by the historians, and by our native writers particularly, of the idiosyncrasy of Welsh law. But the tribal system, as Mr Seebohm points out in his conclusion, was not a mere mono- graphic creation by a supreme master and maker of laws: it grew up with the gradual growth of the Cymric tribe itself, whose first beginnings carry one into Strathclyde as well as into Powvl or the lands still further south. J The contradictions of Celtic temperament are still a puzzle to the Saxon critic, who finds it difficult to credit bow much of adhesiveness and conservatism may exist in an apparently volatil« and plastic racial character. The feeline- fr,r +1 tribe, wd the tribal bead; the 8uspW0V°0 £ stranger m the land; the complex interaction of sentiment and law; the semi-superstitious regard for the hereditary ties, and the liabilihW kindred even to the seventh and ninth de^reM n these things are worked by Mr Seebohm into h\l argument; and in proving his case for th« II tial and native stability of the tribe tW ?" prove much more. And this is why his hLv ° endlessly suggestive for those who have h S? the future as well as the past of th« n u- allied peoples in these islands. As h« .QV eluding his striking chapter on ChiefS !U-°0n" the Tribe": wuettamship m The almost unique advantarra Cymric tribal system in its sur^vaHnto^ 7 of codes and extents, makes if a r^- ? re Peno<i for futher search both backwards InVf vantage Any understanding of the modern f?rwards- tion of society in Wales must startevolu- it may be a stepping-stone ako L°m > the earlier past, not onlv ail knowledge of system in Wales, but also »« eSftrds the tribal systems, of which so littl« other tribal have, nevertheless, made lan»n 8 .but which economic structure of modiL C«ntn°ut'ons to the In keeping severely to th« lr> ..roP,ean society." an argument, Mr Seebohm v!^ scheme of such possibly be complained 8,°.metimes, it may close for comfort in tho hls ^dence too care more for the humaaf? +ug~for tho8e who pure and simple. Not that v v ?cr e°onomics share of warmer colouring ok is without its can be even poetical on ^.er>' for Mr Seebohm courses on the Hearth >, as'^n' a» when he dis- ownership and inheritance wl?6 8ymbol of family niirably put than his accol T COul<* be™ore ad- the covering and uncovo«- ? significance of and at morSng; or M.Tf « th6 be"th at niKht by which an eiected s^ereDCe Dadenhitdd, in returning and uncoverin^61'^ Ms Patrimony possibly, tfie fire knot n<" fi^er many years hearth? nre ba-ck-stone of the parental The chapter on tlin i J • Princes and the Chu rf on between the Welsh establishments under ^ou ^e ecclesiastical valuable contribution + JL order, is a very history of the ChurchVn W^°triCate and diffitJult bearing on somp es and has again its' Until we have th*» 6171 'Rateable questions, methods of tribal comPjeting volume on the raises, it iSi perL e which Mr Seebohm pro- criticism on the<?ft « J reserve a*y definite issue with certain HT ° er points where he is at Meanwhile, enough v. £ contemporary writers, tremely valuable hJfl w en 8aid to sW how es> how much Celtic a 1S> 80 *ar as it goes and get from its concentrated aS Eagli8h' readers may ERNEST RIYS. --= cii th y%

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LADY THROWN FROM A TRAP. The slight mischance of a fall from a pony trap had serious results in the case of Mrs Devonshire, a well-known and widely-respected resident in the little town of Beaconsfield. The accident occurred six years ago, and seeraedtoin flict a se- vere nervous shock. No particular part, as she felt then, was in- jured, but for almost a twelve-month she wasted away and got almost like a shadow. She began to have a very strange feeling, from her back right down to the bottom of her feet. She was examined by several doctors and went into one of the London hospitals for over two months, but did not get better. She could not turn in bed, could not move, nor could she get upstairs. The hospital doctors did not seem to understand her case at all. Abscesses formed in her side, and the doctor said that explained all that she had suffered before. She afterwards went to the High Wycombe and Earl of Beaconsfield Memorial Cottage ihospital-receiving excellent treatment — and lay prostrate for a twelve- month. But no permanent relief was obtained until sometime afterwards,J when she tried Dr Williams' Pink Pills for Pale People. How did you come to read of these strangely- named Pills ?" asked a representative of the South Bucks Free Press. In the Christian Globe. The case we saw was a similar one to mine. I bad six boxes at first. I sent to Dr Williams' establishment in London." You look well now." And I feel well. I can get about now and do my work. I seemed to gain more strength at once when I began will the Pills, and could move better. It wis the Pills that did it, without doubt. When I began to get about everybody was telling me what a miracle it was, and making such remarks as I never thought you would get about any more,' You are a miracle.' &c., &c. Everyone was as- tonished." Various people in Beaconsfield, on w^oni the reporter corroborated M r 8 Devonshire's statements, and ex- pressed their surprise at her being able to £ 6t about again. Dr Williams' Pink Pills fortify the nerves and s thus cure nervous disorders, paralysis, locomotor c ataxy, neuralgia, rheumatism, St. Vitus' dance, • nervous headache, and indigestion; diseases of l the blood, such as scrofula, chronic erysipelas, and i restore pale and sallow complexions to the glow of ) health. They are now obtainable of all chemists, and from Dr Williams' Medicine Company, 46, T Holborn Viaduct, London, at 2s 9d. a box, or six ■ for 13s 9d., but are genuine only with f ull name, i Dr Williams' Pink Pills for Pale People. A speci- E fic for all the troubles of the female, and in men I cure all cases arising from worry, overwork, or excesses.

I CHARGES AGAINST A PENMAEN- i MAWR PUBLICAN. At Conway Petty Sessions, on Monday, before Mr Kneeshaw and other magistrates, William Evans, Black Lion Inn, Penmaenmawr, appeared to two summonses charging him with permitting drunkenness. Mr Humphreys (Messrs James and Humphreys) prosecuted; Mr Johnson (Messrs Chamberlain and Johnson) defended; and Mr Thornton appeared for the lessees, Messrs Worth- ington and Co. The house was visited on a Saturday night by Police-Constables Rowlands and Jones, and the landlord was advised to turn out some men who were under the influence of drink and creating a disturbance. Later in the evening the officers again visited the house, and found the men still sitting there with drink before them.—Several witnesses, including the defendant, were called to prove that thero was no rowdyism in the house, except such as generally happens on in the house, except such as generally happens on j quarry pay nights, and that no drunken persons were served. The bench imposed a penalty of 20s and costs in each case, and directed the endorse- ment of the license. Mr Thornton Jones appealed to the bench not to endorse the license, as the de- fendant had only just entered into occupation of the house, and Messrs Worthington were prepared to put in another tenant. Tba justices adhered to their decision. The meu found drunk on the pre- mises were each fined 5s and costs. Several per- sons from Penmaenmawr were ordered to pay costs for loitering. —

THE TRAiWATQUESTlON AT LLANDUDNO. The annual meeting of the Llandudno Marine Drive Company was held on Thursday, Mr T. Williams presiding. There was a large attendance of shareholders. The Directors reported gross re- ceipts for the year from tolls X663 12s lid, an in- crease of Y,32 on last year. They recommended a dividend of 118 per share. With reference to the sale of their undertaking to an electric tramway company, the directors recommended the sale at 1£12,500, but promise to call another meeting before finally doing so.-The Chairman moved the adoption of the report and observed that he was in favour of selling their undertaking simply because he thought it could be made more beneficial to the town than the present company could make it.— Mr Bevan seconded the adoption of the report simply as a record of the decision of the directors he was not a tram enthusiast.—Mr Ellis Jones moved an amendment with regard to the tram clause to the effect that they sell their under- taking, but that no tram line be allowed. It would be a thousand pities for their famous Marine Drive, which was such an acquisition to the town, to be sold to a company to make a tramway. If that were carried out it would hinder the better class of visitors -a class they wanted in Llandudno. No private gentleman would like to drive round the Orme if trams were running. He felt it his duty to oppose the scheme to the bitter end. His idea was that the District Council should purchase the undertaking and control it for the benefit of the town.—Mr Woodcock seconded.—Mr Conway and Mr Dunphy strongly supported the directors' report, which, after a warm discussion, was adopted by a large majority.

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THE BETHESDA QUARRYMEN. Increase of Wages. Lord Penrhyn's agent, Mr E. A. Young, .1 announced to the men employed at the Penrhyn Slate Quarries, liethesda, on Monday morning, that their wages would be advanced 5 per ceut. on and after tbn 24th inst. This is good news for ) Bethesda an i the neighbourhood, as it affects 3000 men and b ys, the advance being promise 1 to all classes alike. We trust that other qn;uTy pro- prietors will follow Lord Penrhyn's example.

DOLGELLEY INTERMEDIATE COUNTY SCHOOL. Tb" special selection committee met at the Cou, ty Hall, Dolgellev, last Saturday, to open and consider applications for the post of head master of the Dolgelley School, which comes vacaut at the end of the present term. The Hon. C. H. Wynn (Rug), Corwen, presided. Out of 60 applications received, the following six were selected to appear before the County Governing Body at a meeting to be held next Saturday, when the final selection will take place, viz., Mr P. E. Bowman, M.A., Swansea; Mr H. N. Norris, M.A., Ipswich; Mt A. Wentworth Jones, Clifton College, Clifton Mr J. Davies, M.A., Bala; Mr J. G. Davies, M.A., Boys' High School,Woolwich; Mr Francis J. Curtis, B.A., Speirs School, Reith, N.B.

INTERMEDIATE EDUCATION AT LLANDUDNO. On Thursday, at Conway, Mr C. H. Darbishire presided at a meeting of the Llandudno and Con- way District Local Governing Body.-It was re- ported that premises in which to open a school at Llandudno could be obtained for £100 a year, and that the fixtures and scholastic effects could be bought for £ 567.—Dr Hughes (Penmaenmawr) was astonished that at the last meeting, when only Llandudno members were present, so decided a step should have been taken with reference to the location of the school at Llandudno.—Mr J. Jones (Llandudno) said that the last meeting was legally constituted, and the small attendance was not the fault of the Llandudno members. If the decision was challenged the only way was to alter it by rescinding it. He moved that the report be adop- ted.—Mr Bpvan seconded.-Dr Morgan (Conway) said he had been in favour of the Junction as a site, but after the good work of the committee be should support the adoption of the report, and it was eventually carried.On the motion of Mr Bevan, the clerk was instructed to send plans to the County Governing Body at the earliest date, and to press the Charity Commissioners to sanction the opening of the school in January.—The ques- ion of scholarship was deferred.

LLEYN AND RIFIONYllD MONTHLY MEETING. The monthly meeeting of the Lleyn and Eifion- ydd Calvinistic Methodists was held on Monday, at Tabernacle Chapel, Portmadec, under the chair- manship of Mr Robert Thomas, Criccieth. Mr E. Griffith, Dolgelley, attended as a delegate on be- half of the Forward Movement, which has done so much good in Cardiff and other large centres in South Wales. He was warmly thanked for his address. The members decided to be as faithful in the future as in the past with their subscriptions. The cause at the Tabernacle was reported as being in a flourishing condition, the church now num- bering 457. During the last three years there had been collected for all causes upwards of £2000. The friends at Garth chapel w ere moving with their new chapel. Plans were submitted and passed, the architects being Messrs O. Morris and Son, the building promising to be cue of the finest belonging to the connexion, so that altogether the report from the different churches was most en- couraging. The Rev J. Owen, M.A.. Criccieth, and Mr J. Davies, Pencaenewydd, were elected chairmen for next year. The preachers were the Revs Hugh Jones, D.D., Liverpool; David Wil- liams, Penmorfa; Parry Hughes. J.Owen,M.A., and Hugh Pugh. It was reported that the English Presbyterian cause at Portiuadoc had also a chapel in course of erection, the pastor being the Rev J. Jenkins.

A SENSATIONAL ARREST AT BAR- MOUTH. The inhabitants of Barmouth were thrown into a flutter of excitement on Tuesday by the news t'<. b an alleged London forger had been arrested j'l t o town. The affair bad been kept remarkably <i ut-c, and the arrest had been made before any J. tin- inhabitants had any idea that a criminal v < a fugitive amongst them. The story is q • romantic. It appears that a young fellow nau¡.; j Harry Lee, a ship's steward, had for some time past been paying his attentions to Miss Evans, a respectably connected young lady residing at Bar- mouth. Pretending to be a man of means, Lee was lavish in his presents, succeeded in gaining the affections of the young lady, and arrangements were made for the marriage, which was to have taken place this week. However, Sergeant W. Williams, of Barmouth, received a telegram from the headquarters of the Metropolitan police force stating that a warrant had been issued for the arrest of Lee for forgery. The officer immediately j proceeded to the house where the young lady I resided, just in time to nrevent the young couple going for a drive. The arrest was quietly effected, and the prisoner removed in spite of the indignant protests of the would be bride. He was conveyed to London by Sergeant Detective Decker, and on the following morning brought up before the magistrates charged with obtaining the sum of X20 from one Jacob Mulheisen, a ship's butcher at Millwall, under the pretence that the money was for the ship's purpose. In order to secure the money, which he received by instalments, he had, as alleged, forged the name of the captain of the Bandeeth, a barque loading for Carditf. He was sentenced to twelve months' imprisonment, with hard labour, and ordered to pay JE20 compensa- tion.

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Penrbyndeiidraeth. THE GREAT UNPAID.—Another instance of the injustice caused by the present system of justiciary was shown at the Police Court last Thursday. Only one magistrate appeared, and there being two or three contentious cases they had to be adjourned. Robert Jones, Lord street, BIaenaa Festiniog, was summoned by the guardians for refusing to contribute towards the maintenance of his son at the Denbigh Assylum. As the case could not be proceeded with, Mr Lewis Morris, the cleik, said that it would be better for Jones to have the matter adjourned to the Festiniog Court, which would be held in « fortnight, than to ad- jourh it to the next Penrhyn Court.—Mr Casson, the deputy clerk, advised Jones to come to some terms with Mr Thomas, the clerk of the Guardians, who appeared to ask for an order against the defendant.-R. Jones said that he wanted the case settled there that day. The gentlemen of the Court might have plenty of money to enable them to attend the Court, but he had.no money, and therefore could not attend. He was not going to lose his work to attend these meetings. He would never pay a penny towards the maintenance of the son. The Guardians should send him back, as he (the son) could earn his own living.- Our correspondent had a conversation with Robert Jones after the proceedings were over. Jones said that his son was not insane, only that he was "mot all there." The authorities had taken him away without the father's consent in any way. The son used to work and earn wages, and was quiet. Of course, whrn teased or annoyed, he would, like anybody else, get excited. Oa the day when the ro i" took place—the row that led to his being taken away—the son was attacked from be- hind twice, till he fell on his face. He then took up a stone and struck the wrong person in mistake for the one who had assaulted him. If any person at all was irad, the one who attacked the son was. Robert Jones was prepared to take his son to America if the authorities would liberate him. Otherwise, not a penny would be paid for his maintenance at the asylum.

Llanaelhaiarn. A LECTURE.—The Rev E. T. Davies (Dyfrig) delivered a lecture on Friday, on "Griffith Jones, Llanddowror," in Trevor School, Mr George Farren, J.P., being in the chair. The lecture was most entertaining. THE SCHOOL.—The report of H.M. Inspector has just come to hand. It speaks most highly of the discipline and organisation of the school. The English language is taught through the means of the Welsh; and Welsh, and not English, poetry is given to the children to commit to memory. By translating the words into English, the children make marked progress in learning English, The infants' ^school is also in an excellent condition. The bead teachers are Mr J. R. Roberts and Miss E. Roberts. The highest grant was earned.

I. HOME RULE ALL ROUND. Interview with Mr Lloyd George, M.P. On Saturday afternoon, at Treharris, I came across Mr Lloyd George (writes a Merthyr Tim-f" man), and without much ado I began tackling him on the Home-Rule-a.l-round question. In the evening the hon. meJ bel was to deliver a lecture on Llewelyn the Great; so he was full of the Nationalist fervour, and very readily agreed to give me his views on the sub- ject that is uppermost in Welsh politics at the present time. "My position," said Mr George, "has been mis-represented in the most extraordinary man- iaee, The most outrageous and absurd views have been attributed to me, and my little article in Young Wales' has been ridiculously mis- interpreted." Do you think, Mr George, that you have taken adequate trouble to explain your position and lay your opinions clearly before the coun- try ? Well, perhaps I have not, and that may be the reason why I have been so generally mis- understood." For instance, is it a fact that you wish to banish Disestablishment to the dim and distant background, and sacrifice that aud everything else to Home Rule for Wales ? "Nothing of the sort. On the contrary, I have been actuated by a desire to facilitate the Frogress of Disestablishment. But let me ex- plain the matter in my own way." Mr George then wired in w ith his customary enthusiasm and lucidity. "Look at the present condition of things," he said. "The first and foremost fact we have to face is that Home Rule for Ireland is not making keadway. I go farther, and say that Home Rule for Ireland is falling into greater disfavour day after day. England refuses to budge, and the de- plorable dissensions in the ranks of the Irish mem- bers tend to damp the ardour even of Wales and Scotland. I do not say that it ought to be so I only say it is so as an actual matter of fact. Our hopes of being able to pass Home Rule for Ireland are becoming more and more remote. That, I think, must and will be admitted by politicians generally." "Then why cot drop Home Rule for Ireland, and proceed with other items on the Liberal agenda ?" The Liberal party is irrevocably pledged, to Hor»e Eule. We cannot honourably break that pledge. And if we did break it, where would we be without the help of the Irish members ? Not only, mark you, would we be denied their support, but we would have to reckon on their strongest and bitterest opposition. They would do every- thing in their power to oppose and hamper us, and you know what adroit tacticians they are. If we abandoned them they would be justified, I think, in doing their utmost against us." Well, it strikes me, Mr George, that we are in a desperate quandary. We are bound hand and foot to a measure we can never hope to carry, and until we perform that impossible feat we cannot do anything. That's a nice predicament for a political party to be in." Yes, it is an awkward predicament. But not a hopeless one, I trust. My way out of the diffi- culty is this instead of taking Home Rulefor Ire- land alone, which is surrounded by almost insoluble problems, let us take Home Rule all round." In this matter, then, the half is greater than the whole ? Yes, as it is very often in many matters. I think we can pass Home Rule all round, whereas we cannot pass Home Rule for Ireland. I think, also, that the former does not contain so many intricate points of legislative subtleties as the latter. For instance, the diffieulty of Irish repre- sentation in St. Stephen's does not exist in a scheme of federal Home Rule as it does in a scheme of Home Rule for Ireland. You know the immense bother caused by this question. The wit of man, as Mr Gladstone paid, cannot solve the problem. Under Home Rule all round, of course, all the constituent nationalities would be represented, as now, in the Imperial Parliament. And speaking generally, without going into any further details, it will be far easier, as a matter of legislative engineering, to formulate a scheme of federal Home Rule for Ireland. The country, moreover, woalct, i. illY opinion, eagerly accept the former, whereas, as you are aware, it refuses to accept the latter." We in Wales, at any rate, are ripe for it; so is Scotland but what about England ? England is not ripe for anything in particular just now. England, we are told, wants nothing but a sweet, quiet little snooze." Is it likely that England will object to take into its own hand the power to deal with its own local affairs ? Home Rule ;ill round simply means the devolution of legislation, the granting to loca- lities the privilege of dealing with matters now dealt with, at an erormous cost, by the Imperial legislature. I may be mistaken, but I should hardly think England will seriously object to so sane, moderate, and democratic a measure as ) this." Then what of Ireland ? Well, Ireland ought to, and, I think, will, be satisfied with this scheme. It gives that country all its demands." There is no reason, you hold, why Ireland should be given priority in this matter P Oh, I do not say that. But undoubtedly the people of Scotland, Wales, and England have had a better training in self-government. So that, at any rate, we may go as far as to say that Ireland is not the best place to try the experiment of Home Rule." Therefore, you say, let us have Home Rule all round." Yes, not only because it is in the abstract the best Home Rule, but, under the circumstances, the only Home Rule we are likely to get for a very long time." That, I take it, is the main, the vital point in your argument." Quite so." Then the question whether the Imperial Parlia- ment will delegate the power to deal with Dises- tablishment to the Welsh legislative is not material to your standpoint ?" No, it is not. What I say is this we must pass Home Rule, and it already has the priority over Disestablishment. There is no receding from that position. Then there comes the question how are we going to get Home Rule dealt with and put out of the way ? I answer, by adopting a scheme of federal Home Rule; in other words, by including Irelaud in a geaeral scheme, instead of dealing with it separately." And as to Disestablishment ?" Wales may or may not be given the power to deal with it. Into that I need not enter now. There is a chance that it may. Lord Rosebery would favour that view. He said as much in his Cardiff speecn. We may say, putting it at the very lowest, that we have at least one chance out of three of getting that power. If so, the difficulty vanishes. But suppose we were not given the power, we would be quite as well off as we are now." A great deal better off, I should'say." Well, you are right, as it is (better to have to deal with the possible than with the impossible. We have no hope of passing Home Rule for Ire- land alone; we have a hope of passing federal Home Rule, and that means that the turn of Dis- establishment will come next." This puts your position, I must say, in a dif- ferent light to that in which it appeared at first." As I say, I have been most provokingly mis- represented. The talk about shelving Disestablish- ment, and taking up Home Rule for Wales instead a of it, is all wrong. All I do is to suggest what seems to me to be the wisest and most feasible way of dealing with Home Rule, so that we can go on to other legislative measures both in the Imperial and the federal legislatures." "Every Nationalist, I should say, will readily adopt the policy you suggest." That policy is based on the principle of Nation- alism. We Nationalists are anxious to give the four nationalities every reasonable opportunity to live their own life and develop their resources. I tiink it would be a fine thing, and the wisest statesmanship, to endow those nationalities with the right to govern themselves." Only one question more, Mr George: is there any prospect of your suggestion being adopted by the Liberal party ?" To that my reply must necessarily be of the nature of a conjecture. Lord Rosebery, Sir Camp- bell Bannerman, Mr Asquith, Mr Acland, Sir George Trevelyan, Lord Tweedmouth, Mr Thomas Ellis, and several other Liberal leaders, have de- clared emphatically in favour of Home Rule all round. From what I have been able tto gather, therefore, I am strongly inclined to believe that some such policy as I have outlined would be accepted by the leaders, provided a little pressure were brought to bear on them from outside. Some of them, I know, would only be too glad to see the ceuntry take up the question in earnest, and modify the Home Rule attitude in the direction I have indicated. As for the rank and file of the party, this solution of the Home Rule problem would be heartily welcomed." And Wales ?" I firmly believe Wales will accept this policy once it is properly understood. I havp been about South Wales a good deal lately, and have discussed the question with a vast number of people. At first, some of them would have none of my doc- trine. But that was because they had been mis- led as to its real drift. When it has been sufficiently elucidated it will, I venture to predict, be readily accepted by the Liberals of Wales generally."

WELSH PARLIAMENTARY BILLS. Saturday was -the last day for depositing bills for new railways, &c., to be proceeded with next session. Amongst the bills are the following, which are of local interest -The Cambrian Rail- way Bill contains power for the confirmation of construction of the Llanymynech curve and the abandonment of a portion of the Llanfyllin branch, running power over the Van Railway and loop- line "f the Wrexham and Ellesmere Railway Com- pany. The London and North Western Railway Company seek powers to widen their system at Rhyl, Abergele, and other points. They ask for an txtension of the time for the sale of all or any of the superfluous lands belonging to the company in connection with their undertaking, and to the com- pany jointly with the Great Western in connection with the West Kirby extension. The promoters of the Pwllheli West-end-Tramways seek power to construct lines in the parish of Denio, and to be- come the users of animal, steam, or electric traction power. A bill has been deposited for the dissolu- tion ond reincorporation of the Colwyn Bay and District Gas Company. The new company, if the bill is passed, will have the power of increasing their capital, constructing new works, and levying rates and charges. The North Wales Counties Lunatic Asylum (water supply) bill asks that power be granted to the Visiting Committee of the asylum to dam up and raise the water level of Lake Llyn Bran, to construct reservoirs, &c.

SIR G. OSBORNE MORGAN, MP., AND THE WELSH "REYOLT." In a letter to a correspondent Sir Geo. Osborne Morgan, M.P., writes :— I have to thank you for your letter requesting me, as chairman of the Welsh Liberal members to convene without delay a meeting of the party' in order to consider and (if possible) to compose the 'unseemly disputes' to which you allude The obvious objection to such a course is that at the present time it would be impossible to collect to- gether all or nearly all the Welsh members, and I think you will agree with me that a meeting which was not in every sense a representative one would do more harm than good. But, patting this objection aside, I cannot think that a discussion which could scarcely be carried on without pro- voking some mutual recriminations would help to allay certain (differences which, however regret- table, were, III View of the unfortunate incidents p, m^ed ,the closing stages of the Welsh Church Bill, almost inevitable. Certainly what has lately occurred on the other side of the Channel does not encourage any such hope. Mv own opinion is that far too much has already been made of these petty personal squabbles, which, after all, are confined to two or three members of the party, and which benefit nobody except our opponents. Parliament next session will be mainly occupied with a question of vital interest to Wales and Welshmen-the fndowment by the State of the so-called "Voluntary" schools. I feel sure that in presence of so grave a danger we stall find no difficulty in closing our ranks. The o ce of chairman of the Welsh Parliamentary party 18 a sessional one. If my colleagues should think fit to replace me by another leader, I would, of course, bow to their decision. But, as long as they honour me with their confidence, I will do my best to lead them." «-

SIR HORATIO LLOYD ON WELSH DISESTABLISHMENT. Sir Horatio Lloyd presided at a meeting in the Campbell Memorial Hall, Broughton, Chester, on rtu T. eveninS> wllen Mr W. E. Helm, of the Church Defence Institute, delivered the first of a series of lectures on the Disestablishment and Dis- endowment of the Church. The Chairman said it might be thought there was no necessity for any such action as they were taking, that the crisis had gone by, and that their opponents, after the late election, were not able to do them any serious in- VM PRESEN^- He, however, thought that now, while they had a period of comparative calm, and were able to calmly and deliberately consider their position, they should see that the facts relating to the Church were properly placed before the people, thus making preparations for future difficulties. As for the attacks upon the Church, he should have thought the existence of a national recogni- tion of its religion and the antiquity of the con- nection between Church and State would have pro- tected it from attack. The assault upon the Church in Wales was simply a prelude to the at- tack that would be made upon the Church of England, and it would be a fatal delusion to hope that a successful attack on one would not give greater impetus to the attack on the other. The Church in Wales had a great hold upon the hearts of the Welsh people, who regarded it as their mother Church, and from it had sprung the whole religious life of the Principality. In every parish of Wales there was a resident minister belonging to the Church of England, and the good done by this system in regard to religious education, the charge of the poor and needy, and the visitation of the sick, was such as could only be done by a minister living on the spot. The Nonconformists would, no doubt, consider it a monstrous injustice if the Church attempted to interfere with them. The money was collected for sacred work, and ander the circumstances he did not wonder that the Church of Wales bad many sympathisers among Nonconformists. If any injury was done to the Church the country would suffer.

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