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CARDIFF CHAMBER OF COMMENCE.

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CARDIFF CHAMBER OF COMMENCE. The monthly meeting of the Chamber of Commerce was held yesterday. Mr. E. S. Hill presided, and there were present Messrs. J. J. Hoist, J. H. Wilson, W. J. Trounce, S. Nash, H. Vellacott, S. S. Howard, N. B. Calder, J. Guthrie, J. Frazer, J. V. Thomas, J. Olafield, and A. Dalziel, secretary. A letter was read from Mr. G. T. Clark, President, explaining that his absence was unavoidable. Several letters and papers were laid upon the table. THE PREVENTION OF DESKBTION FROM SHIPS, The Secretary read the following letter:- Mercantile Marine Office Cardiff Dec. 30.1872. Sir —The Lords Committee of Privy Council for Irade have been please* to appoint two additional police nu*- seHirers or runners at this office, principally to assist in snuDressing the desertion which so frequently takes place from ships arriving from London and other home ports to load en route for foreign ports* # # In attempting to carry out this object it is essential that owners, masters, and consignees of vessels should act. concertedly with the officers, and I know of no better plan than in asking the kind assistance of the Chamber of Commerce to urge upon its members who are counected with shipping, and others of the community similarly cir- cumstanced, over whom the chamber has influence, to use all their energy to put the law against desertion and crimping irl action so as speedily to obtain the end desired. It is well-known that the other great evil—of "neglecting to proceed to sea" at sailing, has been reduced to a mini- mum, and there is no reason to believe but that the in- ward'desertion might be similarly reduced by the co-ope- ration of all parties concerned. In order to accomplish this I would suggest that all shipbrokers should advise their clients — 1st. To deposit agreements at this office immediately on arrival. 2nd, To prosecute all buna fide deserters. 3rd.' If desirous of discharging any seamen, to do so legally at this office. 4th. If the master or any of the officers have not seen the crew sign the agreement, the men should be mus- tered on arrival here and asked to acknowledge their signatures before leaving the ship. A considerable amount of desertion is created, so to speak, by masters allowing their men to go without a legal discharge. It becomes then a difficult matter to de- cide who are really deserters. I would, therefore, res- pectfully urge your Chamber to enforce on brokers the desirability of checking this practice. 1 am, sir, your obedient servant, T. S. MILLER, Superintendent. The Secretary, Chamber of Commerce, Cardiff. The letter was received with approval, and the Chamber ordered that it should be printed, and circu- lated among the shipbrokers of the port. THE BEMOVAn OF THE CARDIFF CUSTOM HOUSE. The Secretary read a correspondence which bad passed between himself and the Commissioners of Cus- toms, with regard to the proposed removal of the Cus- tom-house from the town to the Docks. Mr. Dalziel's letter embodied the report of the Committee appointed to select a site, and stated that as the piece of land in Staart-screet, offered by Lord Bute's trustees, appeared an eligible site, it was desirable in the opinion of the Chamber that the Commissioners should secure it. The letter further stated that the Committee who had had the removal of the Custom House to the doeks under their special consideration, proposed to take from the Board of Customs the lease of the building at present in use. To that communication a reply had been received, dated the 13th inst,, from Mr. Hale, Secretary to the Board. He said that Sir Thomas Fremantle had laid Mr. Dalziel's letter before the Commissioners, and he was directed to inform the Chamber that the Board were not prepared to consent to the removal of the Custom House from its present position. The CHAIRMAN remarked that that letter appeared to be be rather an extinguisher. Mr. HOLST said the Board of Trade had resolved to move the shipping office to the docks. Mr. WILSON said that would remove half the nuisance of which they complained now. The CHAIRMAN said his opinion was that Government woald not listen to any proposal to remove the Custom House, if it involved the expense of a new building. They said, and not without reason-We have got a building at present, it has been enlarged and made more suitable, and if you want to remove the Custom House you must build a new one for us. Mr. WILSON said one reason which might have weighed with the Commissioners was that the impor- ters objected to the removal. Mr. NASH suggested that another reason having con- siderable infiiaenae with them, was that the Collector of Customs was himself opposed to the removal. The subject then dropped. SILTING AT THE PENABTH AND EAST BUTE DOCKS. lgr. HOLST said the committee appointed to enquire into thC alleged silting at the East Bute and Penarth Docks had been called together; but a few of the members had made enquiries and had obtained suffi- cient information to enable the Chamber to form an opinio a. They were told when the Penarth Dock was opened that it was to have five feet greater depth of water than th. fiwft Do«k. That was no longer the case: a quantity of wrack hAd been allowed to AÇÇQWq. v late at the entrance to the dock, and at present there was eighteen inches less water on the wrack than on the cill of the East Dock and six inches less water than on the oill of the West Dook. A ship could pass out of the East and Penarth Docks if she had only a foot of water under her keel, but once outside that dock she required five feet more water to carry her over the wrack. This was preju- dicial to the Penarth Company, and of course pre- judicial to the shipping interest. As an instance of its effects, he might mention that the other day a large steamer had to be sent to Swansea to get her propeller repaired, but she could not load there, for fear she would be neaped. Her owner asked if his firm could load her at Cardiff. They said there would be sufficient water to load her at Penarth. They loaded the steamer at Penarth, but owing to the causes he spoke of they had to send her out with 70 or 80 tons less cargo, to lighten her draught, or she would have been neaped in Penarth. What was required was that the wrack should be cleared away, and the bank of mud that had accumulated removed. He was in a position to say that Mr. Ware had offered to remove the obstruction within six months of the 1st of March, for the sum of X3,000, and keep the navigation open for seven years afterwards, at £ 100 a year. That was a very small sum compared with the cost of the Penarth undertaking, and as it was imperatively necessary that these obstruc- tions to navigation should be removed, he recommended that the Chamber should make a representation of the facts to the Taff Vale Railway Company, the lessees of Penarth Dock, and should also address the Bute Trustees with regard to the abstraction at the East Dock. Mr. GUTHRIE said at the East Dock navigation was interrupted by a similar accumulation of wrack, and a corner of the East mud. A narrow channel had been cut through which the Glamorgan could pass, but the pilots recommended that the wrack and a corner of the mud should be cut away. With regard to the Penarth Dock, he corroborated Mr. Hoist. There was a mud bank outside the dock upon which there was 5ft. less water than on the cill of the Penarth Dock; if the mud and wrack were cut away vessels could come out ot Penarth Dock drawing 5ft. more water than they did now. He supported Ir. Hoist's recommendation. Mr. NASH understood that Cardiff was a naroour, ana had a harbour-master; and he knew that ships paid harbour dues. Was it not the duty of the harbour authorities to clear the obstruction away. The CHAIRMAN suggested that the secretary should embody the statements of Messrs. Hoist and Guthrie in a letter to be sent to the Bute trustees, to Mr. Fisher for Penarth, and to the Town Clerk as the representa- tive of the harbour authority. The suggestion was agreed to. THE INCOME TAX.-DECK CARGOES OF SHIPS. The CHAIRMAN laid before the Chamber the pro- gramme of subjects to be considered at the ensuing meeting of Associated Chambers, and the questions were discussed seriatim. The Hull and Halifax Chambers recommend the total abolition of income-tax, and after a long conver- sation, which diverged into a discussion of the rela- tive advantages of direct and indirect taxation, the Chamber recorded its opinion in support of the Hull- Halifax proposal. The Bristol Chamber had a motionjjondemning the practice of loading ships with deck cargoes. Mr. VELLACOTT supported the Bristol motion. Mr. NASH thought all ships so loaded which had arrived in Cardiff this winter bad had their deck loads washed away. The CHAIRMAN said he had had three ships come in carrying deck loads. Mr. NASH believed that many lives were sacrificed and ships lost by carrying heavy deck loads. The CHAIRMAN said there were ships and ships the deck load one vessel could carry safely might jeopardise another. A new ship might carry a deck load of timber without danger, an old one could not. Mr. NASH considered no vessel fit to carry a deck load. Ships were constructed to carry their cargoes under and not on the deck. Mr. HOLST remarked that ships coming from the Baltic might carry deck loads without danger, as the wood with which the) were laden was lighter than that from American pnrts. The timber brought from Pensacola and Quebec wa, heavy, and caused the ships to lie very much deeper in the water. Mr. GUTHRIE said that deck loads not only encumbered the deck to the danger of the vessel, but they impeded the navigation of tLe ship by preventing the sailors from freely moving about. He believed that deck loads from the Ral ic were an dangerous as those from the Atltiit. c p^r'.s, aid would not like to trlst himself in either class of vessel. The CHAIRMAN' said this was part of a very imp )rtiDt s'll'jo^t—that of overloading ships neutrally. A largo number of steamers yearly left this p, .rt greatly overladen. He thought the time had now <_• vrhfin some law should be laid down on this subject. M-. GUTHV.IE sail no more convincing proof of tlio statement that many vessels left this port ovprladen fould be desired tlHn the numbers of disas- ters w ;cl. Lad tak-n [1 ce that winter. The Chamber resolved h MUi>porJrthe Bristol motion. ALLE,q:D !"I:r\í\ITY OF TTTO-BOAT PROPRIETORS. Mr. OrTintiE &nid lie wished to draw attention to a matter which was not so much a question of commerce as of humanity. In the Western Mail of Mon- day, and the Shipping Gazette of Tuesday, a state- ment was made that the captains of two tug boat which had put out to two sinking vessels had rafused take off the crew unless they received very heavy re- innnerrA,ion--in one case £ 30, and the other a large sum. That statement very seriously affected the Cardiff tugboat proprietors, and ought to be taken „ He did not believe «iuy owner of tugbr would sanction such inhumanity, or '111 „ had been guilty of the conduct iinpu* j ,a 6 Ca^ a ment to be trne. tie real ■ SttSK SHe M VSSKft had occurred to him that th« would contradict the aa.sertiou m*ii r r No further action w« J t*e matter b th& Cnamber, and the pro* tb<ju termiliated. Mr. W. J. Trou* the Cardiff representative of the nipping uaze w desires ns to -itate that the paragraph a that ir^-l ill dated from Penarth, and was not lupplied by him.

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