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HOUSE OF COMMONS.—THURSDAY. The Speaker took the chair at four o'clock. CORRUPT PRACTICES AT MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS. Mr. H. JAMES gave notice, that on Wednesday he would ask leave to bring in a bill for the prevention of corrupt practices at municipal elections, and the creation of a tribunal to establish the validity of such elections. THE LICENSING QUESTION. Sir R. ANSTRUTHER gave notice of his intention to move that no scheme of licensing would be satisfactory, which did not give to the ratepayer a concurrent voice with the magistrate in determining who should have licenses. BALLOT BOXES. In reply to Lord MAHON, Mr. F ORSTER said that in the case of contested parlia- mentary elections, in the event of the Ballot Bill passing, the cost of ballot boxes would be defrayed by the candi- dates. Sir J. ELPHINSTONE asked if the boxes would remain the property of the candidates. Mr. FORSTER said they would be in the same category as the hustings. THE POPE. In reply to Mr. KENNARD, Lord ENFIELD said the Government had received no information of the intention of the Pope to leave Rome, and no application had been made to the Government to place at the disposal of the Pope a residence at Malta or any other place THE NEW MILITARY DISTRICTS. In reply to Sir J. PAKINGTON, Mr. CARDWELL said that great pains had been taken in preparing the depot centres for the military districts, but of course some of them might be changed on recon- sideration THE TICHBORNE CLAIMANT. Mr. EYKYN, who characterised the 'case as one of unsur- passed magnitude and unparalleled audacity; asked whether taking into consideration the absence of a public prosecutor, it was the intention of the Government to un- dertake the prosecution of the person who laid claim to the Tichborne estates, and such other persons as might have been implicated therein. Mr. SCOURFIED asked a further question whether it was true that the person calling himself Roger Tichborne had been that day liberated on bail, and had left London. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said that at the conclusion of the trial yesterday, he had made a statement; hat the Government were prepared to take the matter up, and conduct the prosecution. That however would be. a matter of course in a case of thi° kind, without reference to a public prosecutor. The hon. gentleman must excuse him for saying anything about any other person, but the question was one that was undergoing careful and anxious consideration. With regard to the question of bail he had received no public or private information in the sub- ject. MASSACRE OF CHRISTIANS IN JAPAN. Mr. EGERTON gave notice that to-morrow he would ask the Government if any information had reached the Foreign office, as to a wholesale massacre of native Chris- tians having taken place in Japan. # SCOTCH EDUCATION BILL. On the motion for the second reading of the Education (Scotland) Bill, Mr. AUBERON HERBERT complained that the manner in which the Bill dealt with religious teaching was utterly opposed to the traditions of the, and of a retrograde character. Whilst he fully recognised the ster- ling qualities of the Scotch people, he was not insensible to the narrow prejudices which prevailed amongst so many of them, and, therefore, he felt it to be his duty to move as an amendment, that this House, whilst it strongly ap- proves of the provisions which require sufficient school accommodation, and the attendance of children at schools, is of opinion that a school rate should not be employed, di- rectly or indirectly, as a means of giving religious teaching. The Bill, as it stoed, would perpetuate and intensify religious dissensions in every parish, especially in the large towns of Scotland, where its operation would be most prejudicial to the purity and health of religious and moral feelings. Mr. WHITE seconded the amendment. Mr TREVELYAN deprecated the opposition to the Bill as dictated by a desire to pay off old grudges upon the Government. The question before the House was to pro- vide the best possible education for Scotland, and as the Bill was, or could be, made acceptable to the Scotch people, he, although an ardent Secularist, could not for the sake of any private views, which too were not likely to be realised, oppose the second reading of a measure that would develope and complete the noble sys- tem of education in Scotland by giving it that organisa- tion in which it was at present defective. Mr. C. DALRYMPLE was extremely desirous to pass a Scotch Education Bill this year, but he did not consider that any bill would be better than no bill, and believing that this sweeping bill was a bad one, he was of opinion that it would be better to delay the settlement of the question. The bill attempted more than was required. but his chief objection to it was that it left the question of religious teaching to be decided in each locality by the School Boards. J Mr. MCLAREN, after a lengthened criticism of the pro- vision approved of the bill as a whole. ^F-R" POWELL strongly denounced the objects and motives of hon. member, who had proposed the amend- ment and his friends. Mr. GRAHAM said he believed that the majority of the people of Scotland would appaove of the Bill, although na stated at some length the provision to which he ob- jected. Mr. MCLABREN lexplained the reasons why he sup- ported the second reading. He believed that the State was just as much bound to administer to the spiritual as to the physical wants of the people, and that it was in accordance with the wishes of the people of Scotland, that there should be a united moral and literary education, with a separate religious teaching; and that the Bible should alone be taught in the schools. Sir G. MONTGOMERY opposed the Bill on the ground that it would interfere with the parochial schools. He hoped that its operation would be confined to the large towns and that it would be considerably modified. Mr. GOURLAT, whilst objecting to the amendment, did not approve of the Bill bscauso its tendency and effect would be to perpetuate the denominational system. Mr. FoRTESCUK admitted that the Bill wiis the best that had as yet been offered to Scotland, but they were paying a high price for it in admitting" the principle of concurrent endowment Mr. ORR EWING- hoped that.,the House would lay aside religious or party differences, in order to obtain the best system of education for the 92,000 children of Scotland, who were growing up in ignorance. He approved of many portions of the bill, but feared that compulsion would be impracticable in Scotland, as compulsory vacci- nation had been in England. He did not regard the re- ligious difficulty as inseparable they were willing to make great concession to sever the schools from the church, but they would not hand them over to a board elected by t4 householders Dr. PLAYFAIR said he had some diffimlty, judging from the speeches which had been made, in understanding why there was an Education Bill for Scotland at all before them. This was no less than the seventh bill that had been brought forward, so that at least three generations must grow up with or without edu- cation. The Scotch, however had all avowed that there was no lack of education in Scotland, but if they ex- amined the facts of the case they would find that there was ample ground to justify the Lord Advocate in bring- ing forward this Bill.- Formerly the Church took charge of the education of the people, and attended to it closely, but now that the State was willing to co-operate with them,, they were willing to accept its co-operation. In h's opinion there was no real difficulty in the religious question, for the time was past when Parliament could make a country religious by propagating religious dogmas which the people would not receive. Examining the pre- visions of the Bill he objected to the centralisation under the Privy Council which he feared would reduce the standard of the teachers. He thought that all the schools should be supported out of the rates, and that the ratepayers should be the managers and he was,ure that in Scotland they would manage the schools excellently. The Bill as it stood would extend low English elementary education to Scotland, whereas he wanted to raise still higher the Scotland standard, which even now was higher than the English. Mr. GORDON could not consent to oppose the Bill by means of ana bstract resolution. He was willing to go into Committee where the Bill could be, as it must be, ma- terially amended. They had a noble system of education Scotland, and except in the large towns, especially in Glasgow, and a few remote districtsof the Highlands, there was no educational destitution. The attendance was as high as in Prussia. Their object was to meet the deficiency in the large towns and elsewhere and they ought not to destroy the parochial system which had conferred such benefits upon Scotland, over-riding every principle upon which they had previously attempted to legislate. He hoped that nothing would induce the people of Scotland to part with their old plan, which would be the case if this Bill passed in its present form. The Scotch system, which had produced such great secular results, was established as a religious one, and, indeed, with such a long established system in harmony with the feelings and wishes of the people. They were bound to proceed cautiously before they established a new system, which he feared would destroy all the merits and advantages of the present glorious national system, one which hitheato had been regarded as the model and the most satisfactory one possessed by any country. The LORD ADVOCATE admitted the benefits which the present system of national education had conferred upon Scotland, but his object was to develop it in accordance with the progress of the age and the necessities of the time. He desired to organise the system with the view of securing a general and higher standard of efficiency amongst the teachers, and an adequate pro- vision for them. Every encouragement was held out by the Government; and by securing a larger share of the grant by a higher standard of efficiency, they would have every motive of self-interest, inasmuch as it would tend to help rather than increase the rates. The House afterwards divided. For the second reading. 238 For the amendment. 6 Majority for the Government. 232 The House adjourned at 1.50.














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