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HOUSE OF COMMONS.-MoNDAY. The Speaker took the chair at four o'clock. MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS. Mr. MUNDELLA gave notice that on Thursday he should ask whether the Government, seeing that the Cor- rupt Practices Bill only referred to parliamentary elec- tions, would provide for its being extended to the munici- pal elections. THE ABMY ESTIMATES. Sir W. LAWSON gave notice that on going into Com- rojt'tes on the Army Estimates he should move the following resolution: That in the opinion of this House the time has now arrived for a material reduction in the land forces of the country." GOVERNMENT AND DENOMINATIONAL EDUCATION. Mr. W. E. FORSTER gave notice that an Mr. Dixon's resolution with respect to the Denominational Education, he should move the following amendment, That in the opinion of this House the time that has elapsed since the passing of the Education Act, and the progress made in the arrangements for carrying out that Act, have not been sufficient to enable the House to enter upon a re- vision of its provisions" (Opposition cheers). THE NAVY REORGANISATION. Mr. CORRY gave notice that on going into Committee on the Navy Estimates he should move the following resolution: That in the opinion of this House the re- organisation of the Navy, as settled by the Order in Council, of January, 1869, has tended to the disadvantage of the Naval Service, and requires to be reconsidered by Her Majesty's Government." THE DEFENCE OF THE FIRTH OF FORTH. In reply to Mr. MACFIE, Mr. CARD WELL said that the works for the defence of Leith and the Firth of Forth had not been commenced because, other demands being so pressing and heavy, the Government had not yet thought it right to apply to Parliament for an appropriation for the object. PUBLIC ENTERTAINMENTS ON ASH WEDNESDAY. In reply to Mr. MELLY, LVJ-R- JJIWCE said he was perfectly aware of the conflict- ing arrangements made by the Lord Chamberlain and the magistrates of Surrey and Middlesex, with respect to the opening of the theatres and music-halls of the Metro polis on Ash-Wednesday. It was an illustration of the inconvenience which arose from the present licsnsing sys- tem. The Bill which he hoped to bring in during the present session would deal with the whole question of licenses, and it would then be possible to consider what should be done with respect to Ash-Wednesday. RETIRING ALLOWANCE OF POLICE. In reply to Mr. CLARE READ, Mr. BRUCE said that considering the heavy and pressing business already before the House, it was not possible for him to give any assurance with regard to introducing a Bill for regulating the retiring allowances of the county and borough police. It was, however, a most important question, and he should be glad to find an opportunity of dealing with it this year THE DERRY DISTURBANCES. In reply to Mr. W. JOHNSON, The Marquis of HARTINGTON said that there was no objection to lay on the table the information issued by the Irish Government relative to the Derry procession of the 12th of August, 1871, together with the informations and other documents, but he could not produce the correspon- dence between the Government and Captain Keogh, which was of a confidential charactei. LANDOWNERS OF THE UNITED KINGDOM. In reply to Mr. PIM, Mr. BRUCE was understood to say that he was consider- ing the means of furnishing the nominal list of land- owners in Scotland and Ireland, as well as England. THE INTERNATIONAL. In reply to Mr. B COCHRANE, Mu. GLADSTONE said that any communications between her Majesty's Government and foreign Governments. with respect to the International Society, were of a confi- dential character, and it would not be in his power to lay them on the table, more especially as they related to questions in which foreign Governments were much more interested than of this country. In one case, however, a suggestion had been made to a foreign government with a view to legislation, and, unless restrained by that Govern- ment, he saw no objection to produce this proposal, and the answer to it. THE IRISH RAILWAYS. In reply to Mr. STACKPOLE, Mr. C. FORTESCUE said that Capt. Tyler on his recent visit to Ireland had no interviews with any Railway Boards in Ireland, and there were no reports of such in- terviews at the Board of Trade. Capt. Tyler had conver- sations on the subject of Irish Railways with several gentlemen interested in Irish Railways, and of course made known their results at the Board of Trade but there were no authentic documents and no reports on the matter. THE HONORARY COLONELCIES. In reply to Mr. TREVELYAN, MR. CARDWELL said he was net yet in a position to deal with the question of honorary colonelcies. EX-GOVERNOR EYRE. In reply to A*. JOHNSTONE, Mr. GLADSTONE said that Colonel Eyre, the ex-governor of Jamaica, was not entitled to the pension under the Colonial Governors' Act, and following the statement made by his noble friend on the 26th July, 1871, it was not the intention of the Government to recommend him for any special appointment (hear, hear, from below the gangway). BREACH OF PRIVILEGE. Mr. G. P. BENTINCK called attention to a statement in the Morning Advertiser, which he said was a breach of privilege, inasmuch as it involved grave charges against the late Speaker. The hon. member read the paragraph, which stated that by the direction of Mr. Gladstone and his staunch henchman Mr. Glyn, lists were made of the members who were to speak for the Government, and in a corresponding list, obtained from the Opposition whip, of those who were going to speak on the other side. These lists were given to the Speaker, with instructions that no member was to speak whose name was not upon those lists, and if any other member had possession of the House, that member being the next on the list, and when the lists were exhausted, that the independent members might have no chance of speaking, Mr. Gladstone rose upon his legs and insisted upon a division (cheers and laughter). The SPEAKER: The matter is not one which affects the privileges of this House, but it raises a point of order upon which I shall be glad to satisfy the hon. member according to the rules and usages of the House. The member who first catches the Speaker's eye, will always be entitled to speak. For my own part I have never heard of these so-called Speaker's lists, and I shall endeavour upon all occasions to call upon hon. members to speak according to their respective claims, in a spirit of strict and perfect impartiality, and with the view of eliciting the opinions which prevail in the House with regard to the subject before it. Mr. GLADSTONE was understood to say that he had not the slightest cognizance of the practices referred to. Mr. GLYN denied the existence of such a system as had been referred to by the hon. gentleman opposite, or that any attempt had ever been made by him to gag debates. In that House he had, however, on certain occasions endeavoured to ascertain the names of those who desired to speak on that side of the House, and handed it to the Speaker. Mr. NOEL gave a similar explanation of his own action in this matter. Mr. GLADSTONE remarked that the result shown by the regular debates of the House, did not show that the independent members of both sides of the House were those who were most stinted in the opportunities afforded them of addressing the House. He regretted that the ,e question raised by the hon. gentleman had not been brought forward when Lord Ossington was still in the House, and could give his own answer to it. Mr. DISRAELI said the late speaker had often done him the honour to consult him as to the best mode of ensuring that every section of the House should be represented in an important debate, and he himself had never interfered in the conduct of any debate, except in unison with the views of the Speaker. The subject then dropped. MISCELLANEOUS. A motion by Mr. GLADSTONE, that the House at its rising be adjoujttied till Wednesday, was agreed to. The CHA-SCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER then proposed the first of a series of resolutions relating to the business of the House. It was that strangers shall not be directed to withdraw during any debate, except upon a question put and agreed to without amendment or debate. Mr. G. BENTINCK moved an amendment, delaring that as the resolution differed from the report of the committee of last year, and was therefore new to the House, further time ought to be given for its consideration. A discussion ensued in which the following members took part:-Mr. Newdegate, Mr. Bouverie, Mr. Crau- furd, Mr. Henley. Sir G. Grey, Mr. Osborne, Mr. Glad- stone, CoL Wilson Patten. &c The amendment was withdrawn and another was moved by Mr. BOUVERIE, setting forth that when notice should be taken of the presence of strangers, the Speaker should take the pleasure of the House whether they should be ordered to withdraw. This amendment was discussed for some time and eventually withdrawn, together with the original motion. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved the second resolution, providing that whenever notice has been given that the estimates will be moved in the Committee of Supply, and the Committee stands as a first order of the day, on anyjday except Thursday aud Friday, on which days Government orders have precedence. The Speaker shall, when the order for the Committee has been read, leave the chair without putting the question, and the House shall resolve itself into such committee. He explained that the object of the resolution was merely to facilitate the progress of the public business, which was at present greatly retarded. [LEFT SITTING.]