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Bill's Second Reading.


Newport Demonstration.

Cardiff Church Protest.

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Lord Hugh Cecil.


Lord Hugh Cecil. Lord Hugh Cecil was warmly received on rising to speak. He said St. Michael's College had on the face of it much to attract even a casual visitor. Every one must be impressed by the elements of dignity, beauty and sim- plicity, which were such as they should all desire to see in what must be a training place for a Christian minister. The mere ap- pearance of the College would, he was sure, prepossess everyone in its favour, and he thought that favourable sentiment must be strengthened in every reflecting mind when they considered what were the functions of such a college and the part it must play in the life of the Church and the nation. A theological college was, of course, a supplement to the or- dinary educational training which was neces- sary to turn out a cultivated man suitable for the ministry of God. There was a difficulty in attaining that standard of cultivation in the ministry which was perhaps not sufficiently realised. Of course, in such a College as that much more was given than merely theological training. A spiritual training was the object of such an institution, an object largely attained by personal influence such as they were glad to know was given by the warden of that College—(applause)—so justly respected, and he was assured loved by many of his old pupils. (Renewed applause.) But they must not overlook or even depreciate the importance of strict theological teaching in the narrower sense of the word. An Erroneous Imprdssiorf. There was an impression, not perhaps always pat into words, that a man could get on very well without much knowledge of the techni- calities of theology, that he could even be an efficient minister of the Gospel without that knowledge. That,he was sure,was a misconcep- tion. They ought to beware of the notion that good spiritual teaching could be given which aid not rest upon adequate study, and was not the expression of a coherent scheme of thought. All people in this country were apt to think that they knew enough theology and enough politics to get on with without any express study—(laughter^—and indeed the laity, though exceedingly jealous of the profes- sions. of the priesthood, and very in- sistent that the Church included themselves, were commonly under the impression that you could decide the most complicated questions on the spur of the moment without any read- ing and according to the lights, as the phrase went, which were open to any plain man. (Laughter.) He hoped they would not suppose that for the clergy the resources of the plain man were sufficient. Logic had its authority and its punishments for those who neglected it. It was like the fairy who was not invited to the christening, and who in the end had her revenge. They would find, whether in political discussion or whether in religious teaching, that the man who had a logical position to fall back upon stood the wear and tear of contro- versy and, indeed, the wear and tear of mere experience, much better than those who relied only upon emotion or a general desire to do what was right. Before a man could give even quite simple religious teaching, before he could deal with matters that did not directly and immediately require much knowledge of theo- logy, he ought to have received an adequate trainin in formal theology, so that there might be at the back of his teaching a logical system, a sufficient and rational answer to any ques- tions that might be put to him. Thus furnished, he would give his .teaching much more clearly and confidently and impressively The training of the ministry was strictly the most important part of the Church work. They could have a Church without buildings, but they could not have a Church without a minis- try. The degree of strength there was in a Church depended much more upon the char- acter of its ministry than upon any other single cause. If a minister secured the respect of the people, if intellectually he was able to cope with all the difficulties of the time, then assuredly the affairs of the Church would go on well it would widen its borders, gather in disciples, and go from strength to strength. (Applause.) Theological Unrest. They were, he supposed, indisputably in the earliest stages of a great period of theological unrest. People paid very much less attention to religious matters now than they did 400 years ago. There was going on in the minds of men a change of point of view not at all less serious than the great change of point of view which they called the Reformation. (Hear, hear.) He did not know whether it was ever safe to make any prophecy about the future, but he thought thev might even safely prophesy that whatever was the religious condition and the religious standpoint of the people of England and of Wales in particular to-day, they might be sure that standpoint would be different 50 years hence; there would be a great readjustment and they could not be sure how the different denominations including the Church of England would go through that period of readjustment and unrest. It was obvious that among some of the Noncon- formist bodies in particular there was already a considerable tendency towards what was called the New Theology. It was pretty cer- tain that there would be a line of cleavage which would make the old line of cleavage between Nonconformity and the Church absolute. There would be a new line of cleavage between the New Theology and the old religion which would be the all-important matter in the future. (Hear, hear.) A ministry going into a state of things like that must be competent to deal with all the difficulties of the day. (Applause.) At such* time especi- ally, then they ought to improve their theo- logical colleges, they ought to insist that they should be as efficient and as impressive upon the minds of the young men as they could be made. Certainly St. Michael's College there in Wales had a great sphere of usefulness before it, had a great opening lying at its feet. If it w'ere all that it might be made by the gener osity of those who belonged to the Church it would be a centre of light and life to the Church in Waks it would be a training ground for the ministry it would be of priceless value, sending forth an unending flow of those who were Competent to teac h men in difficult times, spreading the work of the Church and raising the standard of the Church from one end of the Principality to the other. But for that pur- pose-let them be frank—they needed money. The college needed larger financial resources it needed to be put on a sound financial basis; and it needed to extend its work further than it had been able to do up to the present. It must be essentially a college that welcomed men with small means or no means at all it must have large resources at its disposal; it ought to be put on a perfectl y sound l ooting. It obviously was improper that the warden should generously give his services for nothing. (Applause.) Nor was the impropriety less be- cause it was willingly acquiesced in by the warden himself. A college of that kind must Ilook to the future. It must be placed upon a footing which would be permanent. They could not rely upon the generosity of one in- dividual for the purpose of making a permanent settlement. Great and memorable as was the debt of that college to the lady who had bene- fited it so largely, there must be a, wider basis than an individual for the financial resources of any institution that was to be perfectly stable and permanent. He hoped other wealthy persons or moderately wealthy, would second the great efforts that had been made by a few and notably by one lady in order that St Michael's College might be placed upon a permanent, sound, financial basis, and enabled to extend its work in all directions. Church Endowments. It was curious that at the present time, when here, as elsewhere, they were asking for' more money for the Church, Parliament was engaged considering how the money of the Church in Wales might be very considerably diminished. (Laughter.) Nothing was more odd than the frame of mind of some of their critics towards endowments. They believed in endowments for themselves—(laughter)—they were indeed very honourably and admirably engaged in raising sums of money in order that they them- selves might be better endowed. They even believed in endowments for the Church as long as those endowments were contributed at the present time, or in immediately recent years but an endowment in their view was something like a cheese—it got bad with the, lapse of time. (Laughter.) With affectionate zeal they were anxious to liberate them from the fetters of their more ancient endowments of the liberality of their ancestors, which had in their view gone stale. (Laughter.) Nevertheless, their critics recognised, as they did, that the work of the Churdh could only properly be performed with the assistance of endowments. That curious position between the ancient and the modern endowments was one of the most remarkable mental features of their critics to-day. He was persuaded that if they could bring home to people by short and simple arguments first that all the money the Church possessed was justly acquired—(applause)— secondly, that what was ancient she had enjoyed over a number of years which would in the case of any other owner of property give a prescriptive right to it thirdly, that she was using her endowments by common consent very well; fourthly, by consent, not at all less universal, those endowments were by no means too much for the work she had to do- if they could bring home those four points they would no longer have cause to ask why the religious peace of their time and country should be vexed by proposals for taking away from the Church her great and necessary financial resources in order to give them to the State. (Applause.) No religious body would be better for the loss of the Church's endowments, and the Church would be the worse. The in- jury to the Church would consequently be an injury to the cause of religion in the Princi- pality. (Applause.) He could not understand why any conscientious Nonconformist who probably was himself at the present time par- ticipating in schemes for raising large sums for the body to which he belonged should continue to support a proposal so indefensible as the Disendowment of the Church. (Applause.) Some people said the Church would be stirred to greater activity, that there would be a great increase of zeal if some measure of this kind were passed. And it was not untrue to say measures which partook of the character of persecution did produce a healthy reaction in those who were the subjects of such measures. But on that principle why should they stop at disendowment. Nothing did a Church so much good as martyrdom. (Laughter.) Everyone knew the blood of the martyrs, was the seed of the Church. If by doing things in this unjustifi- able fashion they might secure a benefit to a religious body why should not the bishop then be burned. (Great laughter.) In these days of revived pageantry—(laughter)—the scene would be impressive. (More laughter.) Great crowds would be attracted, and the fidelity of the bishop to his principles would be shown in a magnificent and becoming manner, and he could not doubt the religious life of Wales would be greatly improved. (Loud laughter.) Here was an opportunity for the Liberation Society which it ought to make haste to em- brace. Afterwards they might in their turn, zealous for the spiritual life of Nonconformity, begin to burn some of the leading Noncon- formists—(laughter)—and gradually by this system of mutual reaction, and by the spilling of the blood of martyrs the whole life of the Principality might be greatly improved. (Laughter.) All this talk about the religious zeal and the bracing effect of' the voluntary system and the like was language which might be used with just in respect of any injustice however cruel, of any tyranny, however oppressive. (Applause.) J Bishop of St. David's. The Bishop of St. David's, in a humorous Speech, in which he made mention of the admir- able work of the college as Be fleeted in some of the men who had passed through it and came. to work in his diocese moved the following resolution :—" That this meeting pledges itself to support St. Michael's College, Llandaff. in its efforts to prepare men for the ministry of the Church." Mr T. R. Wilson (Newport) seconcle-4, and the Warden supported in a speech in which he explained the objects of the college. The resolution having been carried with ap- plause, the Apehdeacoa of ■ laaudaff proposed, and Canon Harding seconded, a vote of thanks to Lord Hugh Cecil, who in acknowledging it moved a simi!ar vote to the chairman, which also was carried. A collection was made as the company left the marquee to partake of tea in the college.




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