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J THE IRISH BILLS, j ¡ IMPORTANT DECLARATIONS., | SFKIAL TELEGRAMS FROM THE PRESS ASSOCIATION.] EDINBURGH, Monday Night. This afternoon, Mr Gladstone addressed another great meeting of the electors of Mid- lothian in the Edinburgh Music-hall. Admission was by titket, and the ticket-holders were in their seats an hour before the proceedings commenced. Those who came later had to stand in the passages. The hour of waiting was occupied with a perform- ance on the organ of national and other popular air;?. Mr Gladstone was most enthusiastically cheered when he entered the hall. Mr Cowan, of Beeslack, occupied the chair, and among those on the platform were Mr Childers, Mr C. S. Parker, M.P., Mr Wallace (candidate in opposition to Mr Goschen), Principal Rainy, Principal Cairns, and a large body of local pentlemen. Mr GLADSTONE, on rising to address the meet- ing, was received with load and prolonged cheering. He said: Mr Chairman and gentle- men,—It must be very irksome to you to hear, as it is irksome to me to speak ia your hearing, of nothing practically except the one repeated cry, Ireland, Ireland, Ireland." (Cheers.) I hope, gentlemen, at any rate to speak to you upon those aspects of the Irish question which have a special interest for Scotland, such as the position of Ulster, tha history of the Scottish Union, and the comparison between that and the union with Ireland, such as the apprehensions that have been freely expressed by one or more deputations from Ireland of persecutions of Protestants by a dominant Raman Catholic power; and finally, such as the idea that whatever is done in the matter of local government ought to be done upon a rigid cast-iron system for all the three countries and for Wales at once, irre- spective of all the diversified circumstances of their history—(cheers)—but this task I must put off on account of what seems more urgent. It is tantalising in a high degree to reflect upon what we are about to do and compare with it what we, might have been doing. We might, gentlemen. if we in other days had observed a wiser Irish policy, have been free to retrieve the long arrears ef British legislation, and to address ourselves to the consideration of those questions, both social and ecclesiastical—embracing,in fact.all the varied interests of society—upon which the minds of so many among us are set. Well, gentlemen, what I hope is, and what I desire isj that we should get the hands of Parliament set free at the earliest possible moment to deal with those questions in their order. I know nothing in the Parliament about to die, when I compare it with orevious Parliaments, that would derogate from its capacity so to act. (Hear, hear.) And, gentle- men, my hopes are dependent, not upon thegraat ones of the land, but upon the masses of the country. (Cheers.) My hopes are that the Parliament about to be elected will even surpass the Parliament you chose in November and De- cember, from which we bad hoped, and in many respects had reasonably hoped, so much. I think you thoroughly understand that my anxiety to deal with English, Scotch, and Welsh questions induces me to insist at this moment so pertinaciously upon a settlement of the Irish question. THE LIBERAL SECESSION IN KDINBUBQH. Now, gentlemen, it has been my desire upon former occasions, if it were at all in my po-ver., consistently with propriety,to lend a. helping hand to friends and a not helping hand to opponents- slaughter and cheers)—upon these occasions. You will readily understand that I am tempted under such circumstances to refer to the present state of Edinburgh. (Hear, hear.) There haabeen, gentlemen, a Liberal secession, much stronger un- doubtedly than we could have desired—(hear, hear)—in the House of Commons. That secession represented something more than one-fourth of the Liberal party, leaving to us who call ourselves the Liberal party—(cheers)—nearly three-foorths of the whole. Well, now, gentlemen, I want you to compare that state of things—not the most satisfactory in the world—with the state of things in Edinburgh. In Edinburgh there is a division into three-fourths and one-fourth but the Gne-fourth is with the Liberal party, and the three-fourths are with the seceders. (Hear.) It is matter of interest to consider whether that state of things is to continue. (Cries of No.") I hope it is not an impertinence, but I can't help suspecting that the capital of Scotland will make soma stout and sturdy effort to set right that state of things. (Cheers.) Edinburgh has been accus- tomed to lead in the van of Liberal politics- (hear, hear)—and has not been accustomed to 5ind her members among the obstructors of national justice and right. It seems to me, per- haps, impertinent to enter upon the case of par- ticular districts and particular ccnte&ts; but there is one contest in actual progress, and one, gentlemen, whose great distinction requires that I should name him; that is the case of East Edinburgh, and the gentleman whom I name is MR GOSCHEN. (Groans and cheers.) I can only name Mr Goschen in the first instance as a gentleman of very great ability, of remarkable keenness and assiduity, and of unquestionable honour. (Cheers.) About all that I think there is no doubt, but Mr Goschen, besides having been a loyal representa- tive, is a great public character, and has been in a very larsre degree the soul of the opposition to the Irish Bill. At the last election I am aware that I used words of honourable mention to Mr Goschen which were thought by the opponents or Mr Goschen to constitute a somewhat unfair interference of mine on his behalf at any rate, 1 certainly understood that Mr Goschen at that time was a conforming and an orthodox member of the Liberal party. (A laugh.) Your phraseology in ecclesiastical matters is very expressive. I think you have a word by which you indicate the case of men who depart from the established system, and you are sometimes accustomed to say they deviate." I don't think anybody at the time supposed that Mr Goschen would deviate. Well, now, I am very sorry for one of his pro- ceedings in particular. A meeting has been held, gentlemen, in London, of some of the richest men in the country. They have been seceding Liberals, and you know we have lost nearly all—certainly a large proportion—of the wealthier men who belong to our party. Mr Goschen is reported at this meeting to have said that the great object of the meeting was to provide a long purse in order to run as many candidates as possible. (" all" and hisses.) Against whom were these candidates to run ? I am afraid, gentlemen, the circumstances supply the answer. They were to be run against any candidate (supporting the principles and policy of the Government, and the majority of the party. I am extremely sorry for this. I do not think it concerts with the spirit of Liberalism—(cheers)—« to hold great meetings for the purpose of creating a long purse in order to create parliamentary contests that would otherwise not exist, and in order to keep poor men out of the field of political controversy. Mr Goschen, gentlemen, would be a most admirable candidate, so far as I can judge, with INCOMPARABLE CLAIMS FOR A TORT CONSTITCENCT. (Cheers.) He is an undoubted Liberal in his own belief-(laughter)-but it is most unfortunate that being a man of the greatest talent, and an un. doubted Liberal, his energies for years and years past have been mainly directed towards stopping the purposes of Liberalism. (Loud cheers.) For years together he conscientiously opposed the extension of the franchise, which you will recollect was a matter of great difficulty to accomplish, and was very nearly costing the anxieties of a dissolu- tion. All this it was hoped at the last election was over. Mr Goschen, in his proceedings, sin- cerely professed the creed of Liberalism. It was most unfortunate that when his past time had been occupied in resisting the extension of the franchise, his future time was from the very com- mencement to be .occupied again in resisting the purposes of the great bulk of the Liberal party. ("No, no," and cheers.) It was not alone on the question of Home Rule. Recollect that on the very first evening of the session a motion was made. which was the immediate cause of the retirement of the Government, in respect to introducing the agricultural labourer to an interest in the land. Mr Goschen took the oppor- tunity at once of the motion to deliver a most keen and vehement speech against the policy on that occasion of the Liberal party in general, and against myself, who had taken some part in the debate, in particular. It is a very unfortunate thing that whilst his past was a record of resistance to the greatest objects cf Liberalism, 80 his future was to be a record of renewed resistance to that which has by compulsion become the main object of Liberal policy. (Cheers.) Gentlemen, all that I hope will remain well in the minds of the electors of Edinburgh—(hoar, hear)—and I feel convinced that Edinburgh will continue to assert for herself hetf place in the forward ranks of Liberalism for the advantage of the country at large. Now, gentlemen, I most not lay upon Mr Goschen more blame than belongs to him, nor do I presume te blame him. I speak simply of the action be has conscientiously pursued, and of his enormous claims to the suffrage of a constituency hostile to the purposes of Liberalism. (Cries of "No" and "Yes.") But I go on to speak of that most important body—for they are a. very important body—whom we have termed Seeedjng I Liberals. They call themselves Unionist- Liberals—<cheer3 aud hisses)—but we coutend that they are I PAPIm UNIONIST LIBERALS. II (Loud cheers and hisses) The unica they recommend is a union which was brought aboui; by fraud and force, and which never has com- ineuded itself to the people whom it principally affected. (Hear, hear.) Aud we want a union, gentlemen, of flesh—of the heart and mind of men. Why do we cali them secedmg Liberals ? Why, S«ri»ra!ly, when body of m*n splits into two, J i<n» lido much larger and the other ;sueh smaller, ) it -:4 not. a very unnatural privilege for í the larger part to to say th«y are the body and that thoie who departJ fr-ui them aro the s«c«'>rs. (A laugh.) Tio» uoes the jn-.tier stand ? As I have told you, »he soeedere amount ia the Hcri&e of Commons to more than one-fourth—I believe he oat axactly I two-sevenths, or -early tws-sswuhs. How da th«y »tand in the Liberal thfrwffcoui, rW teufttiy ? Nswker*J Why^ they are about one-fifth, or from it to one-tenth. (Laughter and cheers.) How do they stand among the masses of the Liberal party out of doors? (Cries of "Nowhere.") Why, gentleman, I will venture to say — and my own know- ledge and personal experience give me' some title to speak upon the subject- that among the masses of the Liberal party out of doors—masses of those who now possess the franchise—the seceders are not one*twentietha perhaps not oue-fiftieth of the whole. (Cheers.) Gentlemen, they have acted according to their consciences; they have acted on what they believed to be honour and duty let us respect their action. I should be the last to imply the smallest disrespect of it, though I protest against the assumption of titles to which I think they have no claims; but I never, gentlemen, could speak without faeliugs of regard as well as regret concerning a body which contains-—although he might be isolated in it, but still he has been associated with it by his vote, I don't think he takes part in its action — which contains that venerable patriot, Mr Bright— (cheere)—whose services to his country have been such that they can never be forgotten, and how- ever we may differ from anything he may do upon this occasion, it can hardly make the smallest sensible deduction from the debt of gratitude which we owe him. (Cheers.) I might mention many more men like Lord Hartingtou- (hisses and cheers)— who are the very flower of truth and honour, going out in the path of states- manship—men like the Duke of Westminster, less known to you than, be is in England, but a princely nobleman who, in every relation of life, sets a most noble example to every rank of the community in the performance of every. description of duty. Therefore, don't suppose it is disrespect, gentlemen, but I must contend that, these are SECEDING LIBERALS FOR TWO REASONS, not for one alone: firat, because they are a small fraction of the Liberal party secondly, because- they have abandoned the traditions of the Liberal party. (Cheers, and cries of No.") The Liberal' party has the most honourable traditions on the' subject of Ireland. I will read you, gentlemen, an extract upon that subject from Mr Fox, and I ask yon if Mr Fox was now alive, and was now delivering these sentiments, what sort of a reception he and they would receive from the seceding Liberals ? (Laughter.) Mr For, speaking-of those who describe the Irish people as traitors, eroes on :— These honourable gentlemen ten you the Irish are traitors. but such I tell you they are not. A grosser outrage upon truth, a greater libel npon a generous people never before was uttered or insinuated. They who can find reason for all this in any snppo.se< I depravity of the Irish people totallv misunderstand their character. Sir. I love the Irish' nation I know a great deal of that people. I know much of Ireland from having seen it; I know mora from private friendship with individuals. The Irish may have their faults like others they may have a quick feeling of injurv and not be very patient under it, but I do affirm that of their cha- racteristics there is not one feature more predominant in every class of the country from the highest to the lowest order than gratitude for benefits and sensibility to kindness. Change yonr system towards that country, and you will find them another sort of men. Let impartiality, justice, and clemency take the place of prejudice, oppression, and vengeance, and you will not want the aid of maitisJl law or the terror of military executions. (Loud cheers.) Those sentiments of Mr Fox were not mere generalities. Mr Fox, with every genuine Whig, was a strong opponent of the Act of Union, and predicted its ruinous consequences and all the difficulties with which we are now endeavouring to struggle. (Cheers.) Not alone, but I believe every great family—certainly the bulk of the great families of the Whig connection —followed Mr Fox in that policy. (Cheers.) Therefore I object to the claim to represent the Liberal party by the seceding section, upon the ground not merely that it is a small minority, but because it has abandoned the traditions of the passage I have just read from Mr Fax. (Cries of "Yes," and loud cheers.) THE LAND PURCHASE KrLL. This is another question which has been so much made the subject of discussion that I do not think I ought to pass it by without a word of notice, although I cannot upon this occasion dwell upon it at any length. I know it has per- plexed the minds of some—I mean the Land Purchase Bill. My views upon the subject are set forth iiii considerable fulness in a speech delivered in the House of Commons, and I don't see any occasion to recede from any of the opinions expressed in that speech, as they were applicable to the time when it was spoken. I cannot do better than read to yon the substance of an important letter I lately wrote to a friend on the subject of the Land Purchase Bill. He felt it to be a stumbling block in the way of supporting the policy of the Government, and I am bound to make admission that many others so felt it. (Hear, hear.) I make another admis- sion. Undoubtedly, as I stated at the time, a great motive with us in making the proposal was a hope that we might avoid the prolongation of a formidable political controversy. What has happened ? Those for whose direct benefit it had a particular application have done nothing to support it. Lord Hartington. who was supposed to desiie intensely the passing of such an act, instead of supporting it, has described it in public as a bill of which nobody seems to approve. Undoubtedly the people of England and Scotland have, to a large measure, withheld from the Land Purchase Bill the support and sympathy and ap- proval which they have given to the substance of the policy of Irish Government. Gentlemen, I wrote this, which I conceive to be not an unfair STATEMENT OF THE CASE. What I take to be the case is that both oar bills are for tile moment dead; one cames on its tombstone the accorded sanction of a large minority of the House of Commons so far as its principle is concerned; the other 110 sanction beyond that of tile Cabinet. If the verdict of the constituencies be not favourable, we shall be dead together with our bill. (Laughter.) Only one survival is, I think. certain —that is the survival of the principle Land policy of self-government for Ireland. (Cheers.) For candidates this proposition leaves an absolute freedom as to the means for giving effect to the seU-sovernraent of Ireland, .and, of course, as to the question of land purchase as far as yoc will find, if you baye patience $0 read my speech, that the declara- tions contained in tt refer to the time when it was spoken. Our offer was inseparable, in our minds, from the principle act, but it was not iJaseparable at that moment. The Parliament was not bound to join these acts together, and 1 stated for myself antl for the Government that the acceptance or rejection of our offer evidently must have an important influence on the future course of the question. Yon will see, thereliore, gentlemen, that in regard to all other principles of our plan, we are at perfect freedom to consult for the benefit of the countries, and to find the best and safest means of attaining our object—namely, the establish- ment of self-sovernment in Ireland for Irish affairs, in perfect security for the fabric of imperial unity. (Cheers.) That is the principle, and that is the sole principle.which onght to guide us in our future deliberations, and our policy in every point as to the choice of means will receive inspiration from that source, and from that source alone. We should be as anxious as ever to maintain the obligations of honour and of policy, and if we continue on the Government it will be upon that basis alone that our councils will be found. (Cheers.) I AX NOT PREPARED TO CONSENT TO THE REPEAL OF THE ONION. (Cheers.) The repeal of the Union meaus the per- mitted revival—by the abolition of an Act of Parliament-of the old original national Parlia- ment of Ireland, with independent legislative authority. Now with regard to a proposition of that kind, Sir Robert Peel delivered, in 1832 or 1834, a very noble passage of Parliamentary elo- quence which I have seen frequently quoted al applicable to the present proposal—a passage which turned upon a simile and com- parison which he drew between the revival of the old Irish Parliament and the launching into space of a new planetary body without being able to fix the laws that would govern its motion. That was a cogent argument in 1834, and I am not prepared to say it might not be a cogent argument still. Ireland had been asking for a repeal at that time. Ire- land has done her utmost to ally your fears, to consider even your prejudices, to overcome your difficulties, and by careful limitation of her own demands to make it easy for you to do justice, and meet her and con- summate the work of peace. (Cheers.) But, gentlemen, inasmuch as at the time of the last election the claims of the national party were to the effect that what they had looked for bad been at least a revival of the old Irish Parliament, I ask you if it was possible for me, with tolerable prudence, to commit myself to those claims before I knew that they were likely to assert them. But I had a third reason for not entering further on the matter which was, if possible, of still greater force, and it was this I hoped—I was sanguine in the hope—that the ideas" which we now know possess the mind of the Tory Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland had also been those of the Tory Cabinet, to meet the demand of Ireland for local self- government, and to satisfy, to some extent, her national aspirations. Those are the golden words which proceeded from the mouth of Lord Carnarvon these are the ideas with which be governed Ireland those are the ideas which, till I know the contrary, I shall fesl morally cer- tain that Lord Salisbury knew him to entertain, and the ideas whioh Lord Salisbury, with the elections and the Parnell vote in view, did not deem in any respect a disqualification for his being the Viceroy and the representative of the Queen in Ireland. (Cheers.) WHAT SAID AT THAT TIHZ LORD SALISBTTRT1 Why, gentlemen, he spoke substantially in the very terms that I have quoted to you from my own address. On the 7th of November, at the Lord Mayor's dinner, be said in effect simply then fas I have said, that everything should be given to promote the peace, happiness, and contentment of Ireland which was consistent with the unity of the empire and the supremacy of Parliament. (Cheers.) Therefore, gentlemen, my hope was that we should have" Tory measure of Home Rule. Was it not my most solemn duty to cherish that hope ? What would have happened if we had had a Tory measure of Home Ruie ? Why that the greater part of those Tories who are now opposing U8 as dismemberem of the empire would, notwithstand- ing, have been true to the call of their own leaders, and would have trooped into the lobby and supported them rather than let them be turned out. And what would have happened on the other side ? No doubt the 15 or 20 men from Ukterwouldhaveravednponthesubjectthemselves a? violently as they have been doing to-day but the bulk of the Tories would have followed their leadf rs into the lobby. Would they have gone there alone ? Of course they would have had the Irish Nationalists, and even that would not have sufficed to carry the measure. No, gentlemen, I will tell you what they would have had: they would have had that which we can never hope for on a question such as this. They would have had from their opponents—the mass of the Liberal party—a fair and candid hearing. (Cheers.) Numbers of us wculd have followed them into tfvsir lobby, and heartily and loyally supported tbwui in the endeavour, to c«-n- l ) suaciati « rr-- and woxJf fat the benefit of their country. (Cheers.) I have seen it ludicrously remarked in a journal— not in Edinburgh—(laughter)—that professes to be of the highest intelligence, that if I had the intention to support Lord Salisbury in the event, of his proposing a measure of Home Rule, I ought not to have kept it in my own breast, but ought to have made it known to him. But it so happens that that is the very thing I did do. I made it known in speech, and in a letter to a nea* relative of Lord. Salisbury, who com- municated it to Lord Salisbury, and I received an acknowledgment of that intelligence through him from Lord Salisbury, and not only so, but I stated it in the House of Commons, and it was acknowledged to be true from the Opposition bench. (Cheers.) So much for tbe wisdom and 80 much for the- accuracy of the information which is often served. up at the breakfast table for the enlightenment or" the bewilderment, as the case may be, of tbe intelligent people of this country. (Laughter.) Therefore, gentlemen, I hope yon will see that I was shut up between two walls of duty. On the one hand it was my duty to point out to you as well as I could that a serious time was about to arrive, and that Ireland was about to become in all likelihood the engrossing, the mam, tbe absorbing question of the day. On the other hand I was forbidden by equally solemn duty to decide upon things upon which as yet I was imperfectly informed, and I was above all forbidden to abandon the hope of seeing a Home Rule measure from the Government. I trust, speaking in this Liberal country, it will always be that while you will value your party as a good and effective instrument for the Govern- ment of the country, you will always hold the supreme ends of patriotic policy to be above the ends of party, and will support good measures, be they proposed by whom they tnay. (Lcud cheers,) Wail, now, gentlemen, OXJ: WORD UPOX THE ACTUAL SITUATION. I have spoken in terms of honour of the Parlia- ment now expiring. Of course I deeply regret- and as, far as I can do it with propriety, I con- demn its rejection of the bill of the Government, but I can well understand many reasons that go to explain that rejection. It is impossible at a' moment's notice to get rid of old rooted pre- judices, and we cannot deny, gentlemen, if we keep our eyes open, that there are prejudices and have been prejudices between this country and Ireland—prejudices on the other side of the water and prejudices on this side of the water. I must say, also, much bad happened of late years. The conduct of the Irish Nationalist members, whatever apology it may have had, was certainly of a provocative character, and I farther add that it takes a certain time, perhaps, for a gTeat country like this fully to embrace all the bearings of a huge and a novel subject; therefore I am not now complain- ing of the decision that has been come to, but I wish it to be exactly known what that decision was, because artificial attempts are made in some quarters—and I cannot call them less than artifical attempts — to show that the exist- ing Parliament hM not declared against the principle of Home Rule for Ireland— Home Rule meaning the management of Ireland and by Ireland of affairs exclusively Irish, while Ireland remains subject to the Imperial Parlia- ment for all that is imperial. (Cheers.) Now, gentlemen, I can give you the clearest proof that Parliament has rejected—has refused to sanction —this principle of the government of Ireland by domestic legislation. There were 93 Liberals who voted in the majority of 341 that rejected the bill -93 Liberals and 248 Tories. Now, will you be so kind as to follow mo-the fignres are simple enough-in the explanation I have to give. It is known from public declarations and in disputable evidence that out of those 93 Liberals 67 at le.ft voted with Lord Hartington, and under his frank and ingenious declaration that ho was opposed to establishing a domestic legislature in Ireland for the management of Irish affairs. I may just say a word on the rest; the rest were 26 in allI believe five of those were immediate adherents of that very distinguished gentleman whom I have to name again—-the member for West Birmingham—(laughter)—and 21 were a body of gentlemen who voted, I believe, under very various motives, some of them, I know, because they did not consider that they would re ceive a sufficient authority from thoir constituents to sanction so considerable a change. It is not necessary for me to analyse either the five or the 21, or to <mter into the question whether they were really opposed to Home Rule or not. What I insisted upon was this There were 248 Tories, of whom there was not the least doubt they were opposed, and there were 67 Liberals of whom there was no doubt they were opposed, for they made it perfectly indisputable. Add 67 to 248, nnd you have 315 as against 311 who voted in the lobby of the Government, and, therefore, that is conclusive; and in some shape or other some of them persuaded themselves that they were in favour of Home Rule, and objected only to the particular plan. Three hundred and fifteen of them at least were opposed to it out and out, and determined that there should be no Parliament in Ireland for the management of Irish affairs therefore, it is upon that situation, and upon that situation alone, that the appeal is made to the country. (Cheers.) Well, one thing I observe is said—" Why did you not make this proposal before why is it now, in 1886, that you make this proposal ?" Some I believe say—I read it I think—that if I were a man good for anything I ought to have done it 50 years ago. REASONS FOR THE DELAY. Well, I think I could give very good reasons why it has not been done until the present time. Will you be good enough to recall your attention to the great period of the history of the Irish movement since 1800 ? The Act of Unioa left Ireland in a state of burning indignation from one end of the country to the other, but the mass of the Roman Catholic populace at that time were without organization, and had no power, as you have now given them power, to make their sentiments effective. That indignation passed under theleadersbipof Mr O'Connellinto ademand for the repeal, and speaking roughly, I say with- out doubt, for the first fifty years of this century, the demand of Ireland, as far as it was known, was a. demand for repeal. Well, gentlemen, I have given you some reasons to-day what that was a demand which it would certainly have been most unwise to accede to at the present moment. That disposes of tbe time down to 1850. There then came the period of about 15 years, during which you had armed outbreaks and secret conspiracies established under the general name of Fenianism, which took a deep hold of the people of Ireiand. At that time there was no Parliamentary Irish question. But about the year 1365 the Parliamentary question began, and then came a period of attempts at reform. Then it w?s that we abolished the Irish Church establishment with your help, gentlemen. (Cheers.) I remember well being on the hustings as a candidate for South Lancashire in the close of 1868, and hearing on those hustings with joy that in Midlothian— then the fortress of Toryism—the Liberal candi- date had been carried. I had no forecast then, gentlemen, of ever having the honour of being your member, but that intelligence warmed my; heart. (Cheers.) So we abolished the Irish Church in 1869. We endeavoured to reform the Irish landlords—(laughter)—I mean the land laws-in 1370, and undoubtedly at that period such was the satisfaction given at the moment in Ireland by these changes, and such were the favourable circumstances at the time—a good harvest and good prices, that at that time it was not unnatural to cherish a hope that the Irish people might yet become reconciled to the Act of Union as it stood, and I cherished that hope for one. But after that—and shortly after—the Parliamentary party began to arise which de- manded not the repeal ot the Union, but Home Rule, and you should perfectly understand the difference between the two—the difference be- tween an independent Parliament and a statutory one. The first leader of the party was Mr Butt, but he was hardly in a condition to speak for the whole people of Ireland. I don't believe on any occasion he was able to bring into the lobby an actual majority—certainlv nothing like a decided majority — certainly not an actual majority of the Irish members. Mr Butt, died, and Mr Shaw was the next leader of the Home Rule party. Mr Shaw de- clared his views in the House of Commons, and said be was sure they would be able to convince the British Parliament that Home Rule was a thing perfectly consistent with loyalty to the constitution, with the supremacy of the Crown and of Parliament. And, gentlemen, at that hour, when Mr Shaw sat down, 1 rose in that debate and expressed the delight and satisfaction with which I had heard that declaration. (Cheers.) Mr Shaw's leadership was short. It was under Mr Parnell that the Nationalist party was fully organised. But, gentlemen, they were organised, as a minority of the Irish members was authorised, to speak fcr Ireland. It was never until the last dissolution that on the one band an immense majority of the constitutional representatives of Ireland were marshalled in one band to tell you what Ireland wanted, and secondly were prepared to reduse and limit the demands of Ireland within the bounda which I think the Liberal party in general acknowledge to be reasonable. (Cheers.) That is the reason why it would nave been premature—pre- mature certainly on my part—in any way to have directly associated myself with this movement until the proper time arrived. The proper time aid arrive when, meeting under representative institutions, we heard the voice of the repre- sentatives of the sister country. Is that matter nothing, gentlemen ? What would you say if, upon some subject vitally touching your interests or your feelings-rwhether.it was establishment or disestablishment I do not now inquire I have nothing to do with the particular opinion for the purpose of the present moment—but if you returned 60 out of your 72 members to make with one voice, upon any subject whatever, a distinct demand on behalf of Scotland with respect to which it was clear that the interests of the empire were not threatened, what would you think of the rejection of that demand ? (Prolonged cheers.) And 1 ask you now, gentlemen—and I entreat you —notto letslipwbatlhaveelsewheredescribed, and describe again, as this golden opportunity. It is not often in the history of countries, in the vicissi- tudes of politics, that such opportunities arrive. "I Rare indeed have they been in the case of Ireland. They have been known: the first of them that I am aware of was the opportunity that the Treaty of Limerick provided for the establishment of an equality of civil rights independent of religious distinction among the whole population of that island, Ah, gentlemen, had the Treaty of Limerick been executed, the last 200 years would have told us a very different tale, and an indelible blot of dis. grace, which the judgment of the civilized world has axed upon England for its treatment ot Ireland, w j aev?r have been found to sully her brilliant and illustrious escutcheon. (Cheers.) Gentlemen, I am sorry to say it was Protestant bigotry and it was national perfidy that trampled under foot the articles of the Treaty of Limerick. One hundred years passed again. In 1795, Lord Fitzwilliam went to Ireland and formed uu Irish Parliament ready to redress the griev- W« of Ireland, ready to emancipate the Roman Catholics of the country by admitting them to Parliament and Lord Fitz- wilIia.ms".hole heart was in these purposes, but an Irish faction poisoned the ear of the English minister, wbo recalled Lord Fitzwilliam. Then; came the rebellion of 1798 and 1881, and thai whole subsequent history which, we > have so< much to regret, and which has brought about our present embarrassment. (Cheers.) Well, I do not say that it will be that you will have another opportunity, No" the ease is now very dinerent. You bave pub- such weapons into the bands of Ireland as Ire- land will naturally know how to use-the, weapons of constitution, the weapons of freedom, the weapons of representative government, which are the strongest of all weapons. You may on this occasion reject her prayer, but you will not, thereby have settled tbe question; you will not even obtain an interval of precarious repose. Do you remember what Mr Burke said during the American war, when the supporters of that ruinous war said thoy would be able to put down American resistance ? He said, "Ah! the moment of the attainment of your military success will be the commencement of your political difficulties, and if you do put down armed resistance in America you will never be able to govern America." T THE ALTERNATIVE. Gentlemen, I don't hold out to you: the terror of" civil war in Ireland; Heave that to the loyal Orangemen—(laughter)—who are flying the country with rifles from Belfast to the Boyne. (Laughter.) No, gentlemen it is no such terror as that. If it were, you could put it down. You have force enough, and ten times force enough, to put down any such resistance as that; but, gentle- men, you will never be able, under the present system. Above all, you will never be able, after what has happened in the last six months— which have stamped upon our history facts ineffaceable in themselves, and certain as to their results—you will never be able, if that prayer be rejected, again to govern Ireland. You will find the disappointment would bring about exaspera- tion. You would find social order more and more impaired, society at large more and more disquieted and disturbed by agrarian outrage. You would find the time of Parliament incessantly occupied by odious battles upon coercion demanded, coercion resis- ted, coercion defeated, coercion, if ever adopted, yet again withdrawn, and the same miserable round of :weakness and disappointment in the face of all the experience we have had continuing to dishonour the history of our country. (Cheers.) Gentlemen, to avert all those mischiefs, we ask the nation to listen to the prayer that has been reduced within the limits of reason and of safety. We ask you to put an end to this miserable and apparently almost interminable source of dis- content. We call upon the nation, because it was the nation—not the great ones of the nation— that in 1368 returned the Parliament to disestablish the Irish Church and to reform the land laws. (Cheers.) It was the nation, and not the great ones of the nation, that in 1880 returned the Parliament to reverse the fatal foreign policy thrvt had for some years prevailed. (Cheers.) It was the nation, and not the great oues of the nation, who were unfor' tunately continually falliug away, even at that time, from the Liberal party, who in 1885 vindicated the title of that party and returned it with a large majority. (Cheers.) Now, gentle- men, I ask you to achieve another victory, not merely for the Liberal party, but for objects far higher than those of any party to achieve, a victory for the interests of the empire, a victory for the interests of civilization, a victory for the best and the highest interests of mankind. (Loud and prolonged cheering, amidst which Mr Glad- stone resumed his scat, having spoken about an hour and a half.) Mr JAS. N. MILLER came upon the platform and put the following questions:—Whether or not, in the opinion of Mr Gladstone, the legiti- mate aspirations of not only Ireland, but also of England, Scotland, and Wale.«, could be realised by a regulation referring, under proper provisions, all bills dealing merely with provincial affairs — whether Irish, English, Scotch, ov Welsh — after their introduction into the House of Commons, to grand committees of that Hous< consisting respectively of all the members for Ireland, Scotlaud, and Wales. Mr GLADSTONE promised to deal with the subject when he had next the honour óf addressing bis fellow-couatrymeu. A resolution of confidence in Mr Gladstone concluded the meeting.

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