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CROSS-EXAM INA TION. The case was resumed yesterday. It was now the turn of Mr Mnir to start the cross-examination for the Treasury, but the learned counsel did not at once begin as he noticed that the learned judge was reading a letter. The nature of its contents soon be- came apparent. The authors of the commu- nication were the jury, and addressing them the Judge said :— Gentlemen,—I quite understand what you say, and I think it is a very important matter indeed. The suggestion has already occurcd to me. I will make the necessary arrangements. Then his Lordship announced to counse that the jury wished to see more quietly and at a closer position than was possible from the box the pieces of skin under the microscope, and also the pieces of flesh. He would arrange for this to be done in his room in his presence and with a counsel on each side and a doctor on eac-h side also present.

Crown Counsel < £ Crippen Mr Muir now turned to Crippen, who stood apparently interested but not much concerned in the midst of this crowded and breathless court. Mr Mnir's first question was On the morning of the 1st February you were left alone iny our house with your wife ? Crippen nodded assent. Counsel: Do you know of any person in the world who has seen your wife since ?—I do not. Crippen was here asked to raise his voice and putting his hands to his throat he ccxmplatined of hoarseness, whereupon his Lordship re- marked that he (the Judge) did not want any- thing unreasonable. Do you know (Mr Muir) continued, of any person in the world who has ever had a letter from her since ?—I do not. Do you know of any person in the world who can prove in fact that she ever left that house alive?—I do not. I fcold -Mr I>ew all -I knew of toe facts. Fateful February 1st. At what time did you last-see her on the 1st of February ?—It would be between 2 or 3, at the time we retired, that I last saw. The Lord Chief Justice That would be in the morning of the 1st of February after the party ?—Yes. my Lord. Mr Muir Did you breakfast ?—I did. Who prepared your breakfast ?—I did 4 answered Crippen, smiling). I prepared my own breakfast. Nearly always did. Who usually prepared your breakfast ?—I did myself. Did your wife as a rule go down to break- fast ?—Very seldom. We were usually very late retiring, and I was usually off" at probably half-past 8 in the morning. We have heard that you were a kind and attentive husband ?—I was. PI-eparing breakfast in the morning did you usually take her up a cup of tea ?— Not often. I occasionally took her up a cup of coffee but very seldom. Then she would take it on -Mi empty stom- ach ?—Yes. The Lord Chief Justice Coffee you said ? Crippen Yes. We never had tea. Mr Muir When did you return home ?— Generally (I cannot say exactly), I came home about half past screen. It was my usual lioor. When he Came Home. What time did you come home on that night when you say you did notftnd your wile ?— Just about my usual ti me, half -past seven. Do you not recollect at what time on that momentous night it was that you came home ? —I would not like to say. It was somewhere near haif-past seven. It might hasre been 7.35 or 7..25, but it was somewhere a.bout 7.30. WIN you kindly attend closely to my ques- tion and see if you can answer it ? On that most important night in your life cannot you "remember what time you returned home His Lordship I think, Mr Kuir, he has aI. ready answered. He said So far as I can say it was 7.30. It might have been 7.35 or T.25." Of coarse-you can press him farther. Mr Muir: Did you tell Inspector Dew that it was between 5 and 6 Is that right ?—If I said that it is probably right. I cannot say so now. This was on Tuesday ?—Witness nodded. The first of February ?—Another affirmative- movement of the head. Where did you suppose your wife had gone ? —I supposed that she had gone away to Brace Millar. That>s the only guess I can make. That is to America ?—Yes. Enquiries P Have you made enquinesas to what steamers were going to America on or about that date ? —No. I have not. Not since your arrest ?—No tat any time. Not to find out whether there was some steamer sailing for America on which there was a lady answering the description of your wife ?—I have not. Nobody has made these enquiries ?—No. Was there any steamer leaving on the Toes- day 1-1 don"t knew. Or on the Wednesday ?—There usually are steamers on Wednesdays and Saturdays, and, if I remember rightly, Fridays. I am not^speak- ing from late inquiries. I am only speaking from what I know from previous expearxeoca. You have made no inquiries at all ?—I have not made unprines. Going to America on the 1st of February, did your wife take any of her furs with her ?—I cannot say. She had amy quantity of furs and any quantity of dresses. Did she take any of her boxes with her ?—I did think there was one missing. The Lord Chief Josttee Mr Crippen, you must .answer the question. Are you able to say whether any box has gone ?—I am not able to say definitely. Mr Muir Is there any cabstand near yoor house ?—Round the comer, somewhere in York-road. Is that tbecabstand that you went to pick up the cab for Mr and Mrs Martinetti t—No i picked up that cab in the street. TheFe-were none on the rank at that time of night. But you went there first ?—Yes. In the day time is that where yon get a cab ? —There is usually a cab there in the day time. You had been living there five and a half years. Did you go to the cabstand to inquire t ■—I made no inquiry whatever. Please listen to the question. Did you go to the cabstand to inquire whether any cabman bad come to take away a box from your house-? —No, I made no inquiries. Not since your arrest ?—No. Asked Nobody About Her. Have you asked any of the neighbours ?— N-o. N o inquiries of the neighbours ?—N o. No inquiries of the neighbours to know whether a cab or box was seen to leave your house on the 1st of February ?—No. And as far as you know no inquiries have been made ?—No. • You don't suggest that your wife on going for a voyage to America iu February would have walked away from the house 7—I don't know what she would do. She was a very im- pulsive woman. But you made no inquiries 1-1 made no in- quiries. I suppose the usual tradesmen came to your house ?—We had no tradesmen calling except the milkman on Sundays. Have you inquired of the milkman as to |wbetber ■be*sa;w^yoTir ,wife^leave^on thejatprn^ ing of the 1st of February ?—I have made no nqulries. The Lord Chief Justice :—He has said definitely. He has made no inquiries St caused any of them to be made. Mr Muir It is most important for your defence to the charge of murder if any person could be found who saw your wife alive after the Martinetti's saw her alive. Do yoqur realise that ?—Yes. And you made no inquiries at-all ?—No. Of tradesmen, neighbours, or cabmen ?—No. Do you say you have not conducted your own defence ?—Yes. You have been consulted in it. I suppose ? Mr Tobin here interposed, but the Lord Chief Justice remarked :—" He is certainly entitled to ask this." Mr Muir: You did not suggest these in quiries ?—No. The Lord Chief Justice: You must answer this question which Mr Muir puts to you. Have you made any suggestions as to inquiries being made anywhere ?—There have been no in- quiries so far as I know. That is not the point. The point is whether you have made suggestions to Mr Newton, or anyone, as to inquiries being made anywhere ? —The point did not occur to me, so I did not cause it to be made. Mr Muir: Did you know such inquiries would be fruitless ?—I did not know that. Supposing your wife had written for her furs and jewels, what would have happened 1—I would have kept them. I paid for them. Did you know she would not write for them ? I did not. Mrs Crfppen's Allowance. What did you allow your wife ? What did you give her 1-1 did not allow her any special money. I gave her a free hand, whatever sum she seemed to want at any time. If she asked for money she had it. I gave her £2. £3, or £4 often. Once I gave her as much as JE35 to buy some special thing. And up to March. 1909, you had been putting by money, you and she ?—Yes. The Lord Chief Justice What do you mean by saying I gave her S5 to buy some special thing ?—I gave it to her so that-sbe could /?uy a fur cape. When was that ?—Three or four years ago. Mr Muir And you had been putting by money by way of deposit in March, 1909 ?—Yes. In December, 1909, notice of withdrawal was given 7—So I am told. You did know it had been made t-I did not know. In November, 1909, your £3 per week from. Munyon's stopped ?—Yes. You were not quite so well off as you had been 1—My commissions amounted to pretty nearly the same, and, if possible, more. I won't be sure. Did you tell Inspector Dew the commission business did not pay ?—It did pay me, but it was too much trouble for me for what I got out of it.. Where do you suppose your wife was going to get her money from to pay her passage to America. Did you give her any t-l asked her if she'wanted any money and she said No, I want nothing." Did you ask if she wanted any money?—Yes. Why did you ask ?—She said she was going to leave me. v She said she did not want any money ?—No. Did you want the money ?—I did not. PI edged-Jewels' Money. What did you do with the money you got from pawning your wife's jewels ?—I used it for the new preparation I was putting on the market. The Lord Chief Justice The whole £200 ?—I probably used about £80. Mr Muir Anything else ?—I employed some of the money for new dental implements. Were any of those matters quite urgent !— No. What else did you do with the money ?—I devoted some of it to advertising matters for my new preparation. There is no urgency about it at all ?—No. Why were you in such a hurry to pawn yoor wife earrings and marquise rings 1-BPCause I had contracted to advertise. I had already mapped out a scheme in mind and since I had made the final arrangements. I prepared toad- vertise the preparation. Have you pawned iewellery before !—I beMi. Of your wife's ?—No, of my own. Were those two occasions the 2nd aDd 9th of February of this year the only two occa- sions on which you have pawned jewellery of your wife's 1-1 do not accept it in that way. The Lord Chief Justice: Jewellery your wife had been wearing ? Crippen: Yes. Those were the only two occasions ?—Yes. Had you forgotten that you had pawned the jewellery on July 8th t—No. You remembered it quite well ?—Yes. Did you say this to the inspector I have never pawned or sold anything belonging to her before or after she left ?—I did, because I did not consider it her property. Therefore, I think myself justified in answering like that. You got banknotes for these jewels ?—Yes. You changed the banknotes through Miss Curnow at your office in Albion House ?—Yes. Did you say this to Inspector Dew Any notes that I have changed were in connection with my business 1--It was done in connec- tion with my business. What was yonr business ?—ifc was a dental business. You told the absolute truth ?—Yes. Did you account for yoor wife's jewellery and did you tell the inspector at the house that she bad other jewellery and must have taken that with her ?—Yes, she had rings and a watch belonging to her before she was married. And did you intend the inspector to believe that you accounted for the whole of your wife's jewellery ?—Yes. And said not a word about two pieces- of jewellery that you had pawned. The Lord Chief Justice: That's comment, Mr Muir. Night of the Party. Mr Muir The complaint that your wife made on the hight of the dinner party with the Martinett's was a most unreasonable com- plaint ?—I considered it was. There was no reason at all why you should not show Mr Martinetti to the lavatory J—No. That was the sole reason for your wire leav- ing you ?—The thing had been pending evi- dently for a long time. It was for no other cause that she left yon ? —That's the only cause I know of. When you found she had gone you sat down and thought how you should -cover up the scandal ?—Yes. With her friends ?—With her friends. And the members of the Guild ?—Yes. Sh3 had a great many friends ?—Not a large circle of friends. There were only a few who were very intimate with her. Whom you had seen ?—Yes. And Mrs Nash and others whom you liavo not seen ?—Yes. Mrs Ginnette in America ?—Yes. Mr Eugene Stratton ?—Yes. These were all intimate friends ot hers ?—AH intimate friends. And you did yonr best to cover up the scandal ?—Yes. It involved you in a great dxsvl of trouble J— • It has already been acknowledged. Bat that's a fact ?—Jfes.

Relations with Le Neve. When She Cameto HilMrop-eres- cent. Mr Mtm-: I want to call your attention now to one or two incidents. Just look at that letter (handing across a document}. Is that your letter, written on March 20th *—It is. At 39, Hilldrop-crescent ?—Yes. The Lord Chief Justice: Has that been exhibited already ? ifr Mnir Yes, my Lord, exhibit 32. Mr Mnir (to-Crippen): At that time was Le Neve living with you at that address ? Crippen (after a pause): I cannot be sure whether she came to live with me before that time or not, but she had been off and on. At what time do you put it? It is very important, you know 1—It was shortly before Raster. Well, Easter, we are told, was somewhere about the end of March. The Low! Chief Justice: I was going to have that question put presently, but you cam answer it now. When did you say Miss Le Neve came to Hilldrop-crescent f—The first time the came there was the Wednesday night, the 2nd of February. At the time she was with me probably two or three nights, perhaps more, bat when she came to live permanently I would not like to say, but I know' it was jost before Easter. because when I had her clothes brought from Mrs Jackson's to my house. I know it was some tame before Easter. Mr Muir Mrs Jackson has told ns that on March 12th Ethel Le Neve left her house alto- gether. Was that the date she came to Hill- drop-crescent ?—I would not say the exact date, but I know it was some time before Easter, but she had been two or three times the week before that. On the Wednesday Taght. February 2nd, did Ethel Le Neve sleep at HiBdrop-cvesceiit i— She did. The Lord Chief Justice: Yon, press upon that date for a particular reason. (ToOippen): Are you smre of that I—Yes. Mr Mnir Now I want to come to the tetter in your hand. It was written at HBldrop-cres- cent on Stmday, March 20th. Was Ethel Le Neve living with you at that time ?—IS^s. I have already acknowledged that J. wonld accept that date. If she left Mrs Jackson's on March 12th, she most have been there. Letter to the Martirvettis. Mr Muir, reading the letter :— Dear Clara, and Paul.—Please forgive me for not running in daring the-week. I have been so very upset by the very bad news from Belle, that I did not feel equal to talking about anything. Now I have had a cable saying she is so very dangerously ill with double pleuro-pneumonia that I am considering if I bad not better go at once. I don't want to weary you with my troubles, but I feel I must explain why I did not look in to see you. Will try and run in during the week. Had you when you wrote that lettefarranged to go to Dieppe with Ethel Le Neve at Easter ? —Crippen (after a long pause) Yes, I believe I had. And did you want-to wipe your wife off the slate before you left ?—There was no question of that kind, as I have alerady explained in my statement. It-w^necessary to^y -sometiiiign >tO;Step;j»quiriesitJ \|j That is what you intended to do at the time you wrote that letter ?—Prisoner assented. Mrs Martinetti was one of your wife's dearest friends ?—She was a very close friend. She was probably with her once a week at their bouse, or at ours. AiiO aad a great afEectici. for her, there was no doubt about that ?—I should say so. Did you consider in this plan of yours the pain that the announcement of your wife's death would give to Mrs Martinetti ?—I don't think they were > closely attached as has been made out. On the 24th March you sent a telegram to Mrs Martinetti saying that you bad had a cabte that your wife had died on the previous night ?—Yes. Did you consider Mrs Martinetti's feelings ?— I never realised that they were so much attached as they have tried to make it appear. Crippen Smiles. Then on the 30th of March, wnen you had returned, Mrs Martinetti and Mrs Smythson came to see you about yotRwif("s death. Were you m mourning ? Crippen smiled at the question. Think, Mr Crippen, were you in mourning ? After a pause and still smiling, Crippen replied. I did put mourning on. I don't remember whether I had mourning on then." The Lord Chief Justice Were the announce- ments of your wife's death contemporaneously or before ?—Witness (evidently mishearing): Temporarily. The Lord Chief Justice: I did not ask that. Was it before 1—Before, I think. Mr Muir Mrs Smythson, an intimate friend of your wife, Mrs Martinetti certainly an in- timate friend, were they much dio;tressed?- Yes. You had to play the role of the bereaved husbajad 1—Yes. Did you do it well ?—Prisoner smiled. Your wife's friends therefore called to con- dole with you on the loss of your wife. Did you play the part well ?—Pretty well, I expect. I can't say. You had a letter from Dr. Burrows and his wife—two of your wife's latest friends ?— Prisoner nodded. Sheer Hypocrisy." And you wrote to him thus—(the exhibit was handed to witness)—on black-edged paper in keeping with your mourning, and the letter in keeping with your role of the bereaved hus- band. Counsel (reading) Albion House, July 5th. My Dear Doctor.—I feel sure you will for- give me for my apparent neglect, but, really, I have been nearly out of my mind with poor Cora's death so far away from home. Sheer hypocrisy ? Prisoner (casually): Already admitted. She was not with her sister. Which sister were you speaking of ? The one from New York—the whole or the half- sister ? What name ?—Mrs Mills. Was she very fond of her half-sister ?—She seemed to be on good terms with her half- aster, but when she came over they did not get on at all. The whole sister, was she fond of her—the sister referred to in this letter ?—Yes. The lady who has been here ¥—Yes. She might have been fond of her, but-she wrote very often to Mrs MiJIs. It was quite like her disposition to keep up when she should have been in bed." That is a true description of your wife's aisposition ? —She would never give in to anything. She was of a bright, cheerful disposition, that is on the whole 1- Wít.n.æs assented. Mr Muir (quoting): She would keep up when she should have been in bed. The news of her death was a great shock to me." Your imagination was quite equal to the awful abock ? Crippen I don't see why youshould keep on with these questions when I have already ad- mitted that they were all lies right through. Mr Muir I want you to neadise the nature of the lies. It was all pare imagination on your part ?—Yee. Mr Mnir (quoting): "I fear I haye.sadly neglected my friends. Pray forgive me. Believe me, I most truly appreciate all your sympathy. Even now I am not fit to talk to my friends, but as soon as I feel I can control myself, I will run in on you and Maud. I am, of coarse, endeavouring to giVe up the house, and am packing things every night." That was to your-wife's friend f—Yes. How Did You Know P" How did you know-that your wife would not write to Mrs Burrows, her friend ?—I only inferred it from what she said. How did you know she would not write to Mrs Martinetti ?—I did not know, but I did not think she would. Where did you think she was ?—I cannot express an opinion. I thought perhaps she had gone to Chicago. How could she get to Chicago ?—I suppose through New York, where she had two sisters living, or Quebec. For all you know, she might have gone to see her sfeters or her friends ?—For aliI know, but I did not think she would. Mr Mnir then banded witness a letter, and said, Look at that. The envelope is post- dated April 7th. Is that when you wrote it ?"— Yes. Your -wife had left you on February 1st ?— Yes. Gone to America you thought. How did you know she bad not called upon Mrs Mills ? —I feel sure that if she had I should have bad some word from her. Letter to Sister. And you wrote this tetter to Mrs Mills and her mother on black-edged paper I hardly know bow to write you of my dreadful loss. The shock to me has been so dreadful that I am hardly able to control myself. My por Coora|has gone. To make the shock to me more dreadful, I did not even see her at the last. A Few weeks ago we had news that an old relative in California was dead. and to secure important property for ourselves, it was necessary for one of us to go out and put the matter into a lawyer's hands at once. As I was very busy, Cora, proposed that she should go, and as it was necessary for someone to be there at once she would go straight to California without stopping at all, and would then return an 1 would be able to pay all of you a long visit. Onfortrmatdv, on the way out my poor Cora caught aseverecold, and not having a chance to look after herself, it settled on her lungs, and later it developed into double pteuro pneumonia. She wished not to frighten me and so fbe kept writing teffing me not to worry about her as it was only a slight matter. The next I heard was by cable that she was danger- ously ill. Two days later I had another cable asking if I could go to her, and then I had the dreadful news that she had passed away. Imagine ifynu can the dreadful hlow to me —never more to see my Cora alive or to see her face again- She is being sent back, and I shall see what is left of her. I am giving up the house. In fact, it drives me-mad to be in it-alone, and will steii up everything. I don't know what. I shaii probably find some business to take me travelling for a few months until I can recover from the shock. As soon as I have settled an address I will write again to you, as-it is so terrible for me to have to write this dreadful news. Will you please teU all the others of our loss. Love to all. I wiD write again soon and give you my address, probably in Prance. e From DOCTOR. Mr Moir What 3caadal was there which made you write that letter ?—My wife would probably go to her taster., and it was necessary ro-saywhysbe ha-d-gone. If Alive- Do you ask the jury to believe that you -wrote that letter without the certainty that Cora Crippen would never see her sister again ? Yes. You are telling Des, youare telling lies which you hoped to be believed because you think they will be believed. If Cora Crippen was alive she might call at any moment on her sister. You made a very elaborate series of representations to a large number of persona. For whose sake were you going through this elaborate process 1—For the sake of both of us. For your sn ke What did it matter to you ? —I .didn't wish people to believe I treated her badly. You didn't wish your friends to think yoa treated her badly ? Was that right ?—So far as my part was concerned. Going about as ym were with Ethel Le Neve 1-1 went with her to a ball. She was wearing your wife's furs, and had gone to Dieppe with you. She had been to Hilldrop-crescent living as your wife. How were you saving yourself from anything by telling lies ?-1 was covering up the scandal. What scandal ?—The scandal of leading my wife. In Open Adultery. When you were living in open sduMtery with, according to you, with Ethel le Neve You had treated your wife well, given her money, jewels, and clothes, and kept up an arrange- ment with her for four years after you ceased to cohabit with her ?—Yes. Mr Muir And then she treated you with in gratitude, and went away and left you for no cause at all. Why should you seek to cover up scandal in such a way after your wife had deserted you for another man ? Why did you seek to cover up scandal for such a wife as that? The Lord Chief Justice He says he cannot give you any further explanation, Mr Muir, it is no use repeating yourself. Mr Muir: You were the tenant of 39,HiM- drop-crcscent for 50+: years ?—Yes. Had the floor of the cellar of that house been disturbed daring the whole of that time ?—• dontknow. Could you know *—I was only at home for a short part of the time. The Lord Chief Justice As far as you know it was not disturbed ?—No. < Mr Muir When you were not at home, your wife was T-Frequently I did no see her for many hours. The Lord Chief Justice As far as you knew the floor of the cellar was not disturbed, and there was no reason to think it had been dis- turbed ?—No. Mr Muir No reason at all ?—No. • Had you ever been in the cellar ?—Y es. Who carried the coals upstairs for use in the house ?—We didn't use coals upstairs. We didn't use coals very much. We had gas fires. We used some coal in the kitchen range at ,times. |5. Who I So that you were familiar with this cellar 7 You knew where the place was ?—Yes.

The Cellar Remains. You knorv". of course. that remains were found in that cellar ?—I had been told so. So far as you know they could not have been put there while you were there 1-N-Gt that I know of. So far as you know, they cannot ?—I won't say they cannot, because there were times when I was away .and also times when my wife was away. The Lord Chief .Tustice Do you really think that, without your knowledge and your wife's knowledge, some time during the past five years, the remains could have been put there —It does not seem probable, but thereisapos- sibility. As to the Pyjamas. Mr Muir I want you to look now at these suits of pyjamas. The pyjamas in question were here pro- duced. together with the pyjamn, trousers which were found among Crippen's belongings and which the prosecution say corresponded in pattern with the parts of the pyjama jacket found with the remains at Hilldrop-crescent. Mr Muir Are these your pyjamas ?—They are. When did you get them ?—I think I bought them a year ago last September. Did you buy them yourself V—Yes. Where ?—At Jones Brothers. Did you have other suits of pyjamas at the time ?—My worn-out ones. What do you mean by your worn-out ones ? —1 usually had three pairs, and these were some of the three pairs I bought previously. There should be another pair belonging to this lot. How long have you had the pair of trousers ? —Probably from the last time but one that I have bought pyjamas. You are giving me a very important answer. I don't want you to do it hurriedly at all. After all you have said, look at these things again.—I thoroughly understand you. I say these are the remains of three suits I bought on the last occasion but one. Was it before or after you went to Hilldrop- eresceiit that you bought the suit of pyjamas of which the trousers remain ?—After. In 1905 ?—Yes. Arc you sure of that ?—I won't say I am sure whether in 1905-or 1906. Important Date. Did your wife ever buy pyjamas-for yoa ?— No. Did your wife buy them about January 5th, 1909 f—I cannot be positive- These do not show many signs of wear at alL The Lord Chief Justice Never mind about size or wear. Tell us one way or the other. Crippen The 5th of January, 1909. The Lord Chief Justice Answer that ques- tion, please- It is important to you. Be care- ful. The question is Did your wife buy them about January 5th, 1909 ?—I don't know whether she did buy some. She may have bought some of this lot- Did your wife buy you three suits of pyjamas at Jones Bros.' winter sale on the 5th of Janu- ary. 1909 ?—I cannot say that she did. Will you say she did not 1-1 wont say she did not. Mr Mnir Did your wife buy these suits one of them minus the jacket on the 5th of Janu- ary, 1909 ?—She bought some. I could, not say whether these were them or not. The Lord Chief Justice Just one moment (addressing Crippen). Not two minutes ago you said to Mr Muir that your wife never bought you pyjamas but that youaiways bought them yourself. Just now you have said that, your wife did buy you some, although you do not know whether these are them. Which is it ? Crippen Perhaps I should not have said so positively. I think she might have bought some. The Lord Chief YosMce Very well, Pyjama in Jar. Mr Muir Look at the remains of the py- jama in that jar. Crippen did so, and lifted up the portion. In response to Mr Muir he also compared the pattern of the new suit with the pattern of the portion in the jar. Mr Mo» Is it the same pattern ?—It is similar. The Lord Chief Justice The jury can see them for themselves. The portion of the pyjama jacket taken from the jar and the clean suits found in Hilldrop- crescent were then paæed amongst the jury. The Lord Chief Justice intimated that the exhibits could be examined by the jury in their own room at a totter stage. The Lord Chief Justice (to fCrip pen): You have said your faife did buy some and that these may be them—this clean pair of trousers I am speaking of. Do you wish to alter the answer now ?—I said she might have. t Mr Mnir And that this pair of trousers may be of the suit. His Lordship You were asked about these that are being shown.togetber with the portion of the other, and you were asked whether or not they were part of the sets bought by your wife in January ?—I can't sa y they are. His Lordship Would you swear they are not ?—I cannot swear they are not. I say I think the pair is not a recent oair at all. Mr Muir: If these trousers were not part of what your wife bought in January. 1909, when were they bought ?—At. almost every sale, September. January, and mid-summer there were pyjamas bougnt. I can't say when this pair was. bought. How many suits of pyjamas had you at Hill- drop Crescent at one time ?—I only had one suit and the remains of a suit. Did you ten the jury a little time ago that you had three ? His LordaMp I think he was referring to sets of threes. t Crippen That is so, my lord. Their Significance. Mr Muir Now I am going to put this ques- tion so that you may have an opportunity of altering your answer if you desire to do so. That these three suits before you (one of them incomplete) were manufactured in November, 1908. and the cloth of which they were made never came into existence before November, 1908 ? It is still possible to call evidence on this point, and I want you to have it in your mind before you give your final answer—thai, the cloth before you was IDàde in November, 1908. Crippen (anxiously): 1908 ? Yes, November and that the jacket in that pair is part of the same cloth, and that it was sold by Jones Brothers. If that is right, that pyjama jacket must have gone in besides those remains since November, 1908. Mr Tobin here rose to interrupt, but his Lordship explained that Mr Muir had not gone too far and had made his point quite clear. Mr Mnir (continuing); Do you wish to after any question you have given ? Crippen (decisively); No, I do not.

Why He Left London, i Mr Muir When did you make up mind to go away from London ?—On the i ,r ing of Inspector Dew's visit, July 9th. Are you sore about that ? Had you not con- templated the possibility of your going away before that ?—I would not like to say, bat I made up my mind when Inspector Dew came to me and laid all the facts before me. I thought thete was suspicion against me, and that I might have to stay in prison for months and months until my wife was found, and th*G I would be better oik. of it. The Judge You thought you would be i n jgaol for months ?—Yes. Mr Muir On what charge ?—On suspicion. Wh&t crime did you anticipate you would be kept in gaol for ?—I do not understand law suf. iently, 1 have read or heard of people being arrested on the disappearance of other people. I ca.nnot put it in a legal phrase. The Judge: There is no need to trouble about legal phraseology. Crippen continuing If I could not find the woman I thought I could be held until she was found. If I could not produce the woman Inspector Dew told me I should faD into serious trouble. Mr Muir And that was why you contem- plated on July 8th flight from the country ?— Yes. I took Miss Le Neve with me becaus she told her people she was married to me, an I said I thought it best to take her away and so avoid a. scandal. That was after you had gone into the cellar with Inspector Dew and stayed in the celhsr with him t—It was the next morning when I had studied the whole matter. His Lordship You thought about it on the 8th and made up your mind on the 9th ? Crippen Yes, my lord, and I have con- salted Le Neve as to what she would like to do Mr Mnir You thought you were in danger of arrest T—Yes. At Antwerp. And so you fled the country under a. false name, shaved off your moustache, left off wearing your glasses, took Le Neve with you under a false name dressed as a boy passing as your son. You went to Antwerp with Le Neve who was dressed as a boy, and while there stayed in the hotel all day 1-No. Practically all day ?—No answer. You signed the hotel register in a false name ?—No register was there. Well the book at the hotel in which the visitors signed their names. The Lord Chief Justice (reading from the sEp of paper cut from the hotel book) J. Robinson et FilS, married, aged 55 son aged 16, born in Canada, residing in Quebec." The passport was not fimed in. The pass-port was granted by the Belgian authorities on the 10th of July. Place going to Vienna:" The Lord Chief Justice What hotel was it you stayed at ?—Hotel D' Ardennes.

The Poieen Hyoscin. Were you prescribing for any of those pa- tients hyoscin as a medicine to be administered through the mouth 1—Yes. For what diseases was it ?—For nervous dis- eases, coughs and asthmatical complaints. Is there any medical work that you can re- member in which the administration of hyoscin through the mouth for any disease whatever is advised. Witness menioned a book in which he said -byocyonain was mentioned as being a remedy for nervous diseases. Mr Muir: Hyoscin and hyoseyonin are totally different things. I am asking you about tjjjyoscui. 4 The Lord Chief Justice If there is any book in which hyoscin is prescribed as a. medicine, you had better pi*oduce it. Mr Muir Is there any such book that you, know of ? Witness, in a low voice, mentioned a book, the title of which was not audible. The Lord Chief J ustóce: What is the book you refer to -A hornoepathy book. Where is it ?-I have not seen the book for 15 years. The Lord Chief Justice This is very vital to you. His Lordship added that prisoner had better produce the book if he could. Crippen replied that the book was Hempei- andt's Dictionary of Homeopathic Medicine. The Lord Chief Justice Let that book be sent for. Mr Muir I understood you to say yester- day that you put in the pilules about two- thirds of the hyoscin which you bought ?—T used about two-thirds. The Left-over Hyoscin. What became of the remainder then ?—I left it in the office when I came away. Then it oaght to be there now. Have you directed any search to be made for It ? Crippen replied that someone had gone there to look. Mr Muir Has he found it ?—No, he cannot find any of my bottles. Where did you leave this quantity of hyos- cin ?-In a cabinet in my private room. Can you give the number of the room ?—58, Albion House. Who besides yourself was ever in that room ?-Dp to about three weeks before no one, but then I put in u dental chair, and it has been used by a dentist's assistant. His name is Quirlpart. Who had the key ?—I dont remember. You, wanted this hyoscin aa I understand it for perfectly legitimate purposes ¥—Yes. Quoting from the poison book of Lours and Burrows Name of purchases, Munyons, per H.C."—Yes, I always purchased poisons in that way. Purposes for which it is required—homeo- pathic preparation ?"—Yes. Have you anywhere left to-day any of those homeopathic prparations containing hyoscin.1 No, they were all sent out .as they were nsade up. You have none left?—No. Have you here any pattent-to whom you sent the homeopathic preparation I—I think Mr Newton is looking the matter up. You don't know ?—No. This concluded the prisoner's cross-examina- tion, which had lasted two and a half hours. Crippen was then re-examined by Mr Tobin.

Replying to the Judge. The Lord Chief Justice Now. Dr. Crippen, listen to me. We have heard descriptions of your wife and her habits, and witnesses have described her as of vivacious manner and bright spirits, and all that. Apart from quar- rels you have said she was most amiable and pleasing ?—Yes, to the outside world she was amiable and popular, but occasionally she had n with her friends. She was very fond of fine cl thes and jewelery. li. n you came hack en January 1st yon had no idea of her going until you found out she had gone ?—I thought she was only acting as she had done before, and had simply made a th.-e.at. Did you examine the house ?—Yes, I went through the house. Were her clothes in the usual place t—Yes, although some were strewn about the bed room. Are you able to tell us anything about those articles of clothing she did not take away with her ?—No. Are you able to tefi\jis of any trunks taken away by her ?—I can't swear to it. It is extremely important in your own interests, and I want to ask did you discover a trunk of clothes had been taken from the house J-I did not miss any except a few things and a watch she had before her marriage. All her jewellery she left behind I- yes.. Where did you find those articles t—In bar bedroom. Did you take any-?*1- >ts tolind her t—No. You took na steps right up to the 8th ot July ?—No. "Wicked Ues." Apart from the wicked lies you have told, there was nothing to disturb your mind ?—No. Mr Dew said to me, If you cannot find your wife, there will be serious trouble in store for you." This he repeated in different forms. He said nothing else ?—Nothing beyond this. Now, up to the 8th July you had no idea of changing your name or of disguising yourself or disguising Mias Le Neve ?- No. There was nothing to arouse your -suspicion f —I never suspected anything, because I had no reason to think so. Do you represent to the jury, as a man of the world, that a woman going away with another man was uncommon or was extraordinary, and constituted a scandal ? You nave spoken of it as a scandal ?-On them things I am very sen- sitive. I did not think there could be any spe- cific charge against roc. except that I mights be arrested on suspicion.

SCAR PROBLEM. Evidence for Defence. GRUESOME DEMONSTRATION. The next witness called for the defence was Dr. Turnbali, a member of the Pa&hoiogirai Institute of the Londun Hospital. After de- scribing his numerous qualifications, be said he had been -associated with postmortem ex- aminations for many years, and with micro- scopical examination s for the purposes of re- search. Witness took the piece of flesh which has been produced so often during the hearing of the case, and placed it on a plate. It was noticed that some of the ladies pre- sent could not stand the sight, and left the court. Witness proceeded to describe his examina- tion of the flesh, and after explaining the various features associated with flesh taken from the lower part of the abdomen, said the marks on the piece before him could not possibly have been due to a. scar. In his opinion the mark was caused by the folding of the skin and the pressure upon it in the area from which it was taken. For the benefit of the jury the witness folded the skiiii n the manner it would be on a living person and showed by pressure upon it such a position would produce a condtion consistent with the marks in thecentre. The Court then adjourned for lunch. Hungry Jury. His Lordship resumed his seat at &5. TIk. jurymen had not returned into court, and when they came in his Lordship inquired whether they had had lunch. One of them re- plied that he had had nothing at all. His Lordship (warmly s Oh, that is not right, You must go out and have a lunch at once. The jury then filed out again, and his Lord- ship asked for the under-sheriff to come to him, and he left the bench. Dr. Wall Confirms. Dr. Reginald Cecil Blythe WalLassisfcaTit physician to the London Hospital, and also to the Hospital for Consumptives, Bromptaa- road, said he had seen the piece of akin on three occasions, and in his opinion the jivwk was not a scar. » Dr. Wynter Blvth gave evidence as TO CbB alleged presence of hyoscin in the remains found in the cellar at Hilldrop-crescent, the object of his testimony being to controvert concheaons drawn by Dr. WLDCOX from his tests. In cross-examination, the witness was confronted with an opinion expressed in a work of which he is the author, and said be had changed his view on the point within the past month after consulting authorities. After the evidence of this witness. Mr Tobin intimated that this was the case for the de- fence. The jury then retired to exaaunemprnwe the piece of flesh. Subsequently Mr Mmr-<?aid he^wsaaid address the jury to-morrow. Mr Tobin then began his speech for the de- fence.

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