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PAYMENT OF M.P.'s. Trade Union Motion TO RESTORE LOST RIGHT, liberal Objections and Advice. TOO WIDE JUDGMENTS. Attorney-General on Future Action. Mr J. W. TAYLOR (Lab., Durham, Ches- t^r-le-Street) called attention in the House of Commons on Wednesday to the political dis- abilities of Trade Unions, and moved ;— That in the opinion of this House the right to send representatives to Parliament and to municipal and administrative bodies, and to make financial provision for their election and maintenance enjoyed by Trade Unions for over 40 years, and taken from them by the decision in the case of Osborne v. Amal- gamated Society of Railway Servants should be restored. The hon. member said after the passing of the Trades Disputes Act hopes had been enter- tained that the harassing tactics to which Trade Unions had long been subjected would cease. Those hopes had been disappointed. They had desired to pursue their useful, well-defined, beneficial and peaceful policy, but they had *°und themselves again frustrated by an in- terpretation of the law. The decision in the Osborne case had given dissatisfaction to most of the Trade Unionists, who looked P? it as just another instance of the dis- ability of poverty. (fj ear, hear.) If it. were Emitted, as he thought it would be, that it just and desirable that the workers should nave their fair share of direct representation, fj*en the question of ways and mean3 was of too utmost importance. (Ministerial cheers.) Should Majority Rule P As to the matter of compulsory contribu- tions by the members of the Union the question ""as whether the majority should rule. If the lnajority rule was admitted and found to be safe in affairs of State It ought to be at least tolerated in associations lesser degree. If the majority did not pre- ai1 then it meant that the majority would be the absolute mercy of the minority. (Minis- terial cheers.) There was a decided disposition °Q the part of the Trade Unionists of the Country to favour direct Labour represetation. Mt. W. E. HARVEY (Lab., Derbyshire, N.E.) 8econdcd the motion. Liberal Member's Objections. Mr PRINGLE (L., Lanark, N.W.) said objection was taken to the methods ^nd the conditions of the election of Labour representatives, especially since the formation of the Independent Labour Party the attempt which was made to drive Mr Richard Bell out of public life or into the ranks f the Labour Party. (Labour cries of No.") The constitution' of the Labour party pro- dded that the members must vote accord- ing to the decision of the majority of the party, "tat struck at the root of freedom of Parlia- mentary representation. If this right was con- *«red upon Trade IJnions, equal rights ^nld not be withheld from ,other companies J^d statutory corporations. He believed the t^ie remedy for the existing situation was the Payment of members of Parliament. ttr D. BOYLE (Nat., North Mayo), assured the movers of the resolution of the hearty 44port of the Nationalist party. An Amendment iLr VIVIAN (L., Birkenhead), moved to add *he following to the resolution :— Provided that no member of a Trade Union should be deprived of trade, sick, un- Praployed, superannuation, or other benefits Or otherwise prejudiced because he refuses to contribute towards such provision. said the question before the House was not ~he advantages of Trade Union representation, but whether Trade Union money should be an- nexed by a definite party in the State for the Purpose of propagating the political creed, the jjftioiiaiisafcion of all the means of production, •"stribntioQ, and exchange. Counsel of Caution. lie askee Trade Unionists to be cautious in Pressingforward this claim, lest the time should "waen the public opinion would 3ay that ? Trads Unions were so going to extend their functiros that ultimately they become in char- tom a political and trading point of view Slnulai to other corporate bodies, then there )e attached to them the same responsi- bility x> the law as attached to other corporate He did not desire that that time ■hoo^i ever come, and therefore he hoped his aatlerilment would be accepted. It "oalt leave the Labour party free to make use d their grand organisations, but merely Prevent them demanding contributions from a naai for the furtherance of a political propa- ganda to which he was opposed. He person- ally evered his right hon. friend, the member lor ^lorpeth (Mr Burt), and yet under the ot;;n before the House he could be compelled 10 catribute towards a fund which would be ^sed^y the Socialists for the purpose of ousting jttr fron^ the constituency which he so low 'eprecnted. Mr SHERWBLii (L.,Huddepsfleld) seconded *he.amendment contending thai it would give the Labour party the substance of what they "abed without inflicting injustice. Government s Position. "he ATTORNEY-GENERAL said the W-ernment had pledged themselves this to concentrate upon certain great con- HiUtional questions, and to eschew as far as wsible questions which were of a contro- wsial character. Nobody, he thought, wjuld suggest that this was a non-controversial ~*bject. It was highly coiytroversial, but also tmporisuit that It was< impossible for him to take ^>art in the discussion. He Sieved it 'would be admitted that Political test or qualification of of Trade Unions might not impro- di +L en danger the unity, and solidarity of in- Alnn 1 organisations. He thought it would be admitted bv everybodv that it would ■ji a national misfortune, because on the whole ^n'ons bad done more than almost any factor for permanent industrial peace. Limiting Wide Judgments. it could scarcely be denied that in the case some judges had gone further than either of the parties had contemplated, kud it might be worthy of consideration Whether that House should deal with those ^tber wide judgments by means of some ricting or limiting legislation. th however, was not the essential point of motion before the House. Assuming that jJ^t was desired was the means of Labour fjP'esentation he suggested that payment of would solve all the difficulties. The party ought to give careful attention jthe case of the passive resister. If they did ttieet that case they would endanger the tk||(*arity of the Trade Union movement. He therefore, there should be time for ^?ther discussion and perhaps it was well that present time legislation: could not be *2**«rtaken upon the lines of the resolution. Government did not propose to pot on whips because they thought party pres- ort11 matters of this kind would at this stage e question bo inappropriate. SHACKLETON (Lab., Clitheroe) said Osborne decision was permitted to stand Unions were debarred from expending S0Qey upon any political action. He agreed t the question of the minority man had to e faced, but said the Trade Union movement well able to deal with it. He asked the not to prejudice the question. The tfhour party had no desire to be oppressive, the amendment was not the way out of difficulty. Mr MARKHAM objected to compulsory because they would be destructive of the of the subject. Division Prevented. J. D. REES (L., Montgomery Boroughs) Just before eleven o'clock to continue the kate and was met by cries of Divide and down by Labour members. moved the closure, but the withheld his assent to the motion and abate was adjourned under the Standing

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