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CARDIFF WATCH COMMITTEE.

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CARDIFF WATCH COMMITTEE. LIJ" A^J0Urne(i meeting of the "Watch Committee was .la on Monday last, at the Town-hall. Present:—S. .Jenkins, Esq., mayor; Aldermen D. Lewis and C. #chell; Councillors R. Williams, J. Pride, W. Alex- Ider, G. E. Bernard, D. Jotham, E. Thomas, \Y. T. pwards, M.D., J. Elliott, and G. Watson. I P.C. Trimble, No. 29, was charged with being drunk the station house, at one o'clock on Saturday morning. le had brought a good character from the Bristol Police PJ"ce, and this was the first charge against him. -In reply to questions, he said that after twelve months' ffvice his pay in the Bristol police was 16s. per week— ? farst entering the force his pay was 14s. His present at Cardiff was 20s. overal members were of opinion that a man could live eaper at Bristol than in Cardiff. After some discussion, M u* Bernard moved that Trimble be fined a week's pay, "a be severely reprimanded. Mr' soc°n^.e(* the motion.. P K D- LEW'S moved as an amendment that e be fined half-a-week's pay only, on the groucd of pre- lous good character. Mr. Elliott seconded the amendment. On a division the names stood as follows .—For the taendment: Aldermen Yachell and Lewis; Councillors 'or th7' •' TfaorBas, J. Elliott, and Dr. Edwards—6, Z: lWA°r°n Councillors Bernard, Jotham, Alexander. nde, and LeVj3 Reece_5. ■ine amendment was therefore carried, and Trimble P^lOs., and cautioned. t ttth "ee> Xo. 22, and P.C. Fewens, were charged the report of P.C. Wines with being in a brothel in ppbia-stre^ at three o'clock on Sunday morning, when JP °ught to have been on duty. y?e.s said that he concealed himself in a doorway, and Q, nee let out of the house in question by a female, II} twenty minutes after saw Fewens come out of the house. lat h *W° Constables denied the charge, and Price said in; J6 CatQe out of an empty house, where he had fol- cln-Vv^nta. rab'e discussion took place; some members in 1 e-r'nS that as the charge was of a serious character, iu*MVldence s''°uld be heard on oath, and, therefore, ■n deferred to the magistrates. rewards said that if the case was referred to the ft L'e8> should be on some clear understanding, for, le^n occurred at recent meetings, it was proba- 'hsT7 v magistrates would decline to adjudicate, le a(lopted the course of bringing all cases before ani^ not act uPon il ? j i, ■{■ ■°6rnard proposed that it should be resolved that it found the constables guilty, they should S!« ,r">e(^ f°rce.. j CVeral members thought such a course undesirab.e, as committee might not meet again for six weeks. Bernard said they might direct the Superintendent discharge the men, if found guilty by the magistrates After some further conversation, the case was referred ii„Vf, magistrates, and the men were told that they S obtag forvvard ar'i* evidence in defence that they P.C. Price, No. g va3 charged with sitting at the -hln\talion fireside', at five o'clock in the morning, is h ought to be on duty. He explained, that, hav- lkin'°Ug ia two prisoners, he took the opportunity of r°!>er t"010 ^ea' having heen una^e to come in at the ^he explanation was deemed satisfactory. THE GOVEIINMENT INSPECTOR'S REPORT. *he Mayor called attention to the order of the day )r the consideration of the report of Capt. Willis, ad- orned from Wednesday last, when the following was .ad from Capt. Willis, in reply to questions put by di- ection of the Committee Junior United Service Club, London, October 1st, 1857. "Sir,—The question which the Watch Committee of !ardiff has desired you to put to me, is one which I really 111 not empowered to answer in the way the Committee 'ould wish me to do. I am empowered only to report on he state of efficiency or otherwise of the aifferent police •taLlighments, and it is left with the Secretary of btate 0 recommend to Parliament or otherwise, on receiving tho eport of the Inspectors, whether the allowance of one- °Urtb of the expenditure shall be granted. I have gene- ftlly been led to understand that the Government will 'lace a liberal construction on the Act, provided the autho- ities of police forces place their forces in an efficient state 11 the recommendation of the Inspectors; and in case the t atch Committee and Town Council of Cardiff adopt my Uggestions I have no other course left me than to state j^t the force has been made efficient in numbers, and bat, as regards the lock-up places, the Town Clerk has formed ms that tho Corporation purposes also to carry be other portion of my suggestions into effect, by erecting :n<*w station, with all proper accommodation. Hoping ^.at this explanation will prove satisfactory to the Com- j remain, Sir, your obedieut servaut, EDWARD WILLIS, rpi rn Government Inspector of Constabulary. -Town-Clerk, Cardiff. The Inspector's report, which we published on the 3rd [lst., Was read. ^r. Aldnroian Lewis asked how Capt. Willis had ar- ¡Ved at his information ? Was it by personal survey, or ^J^Ports from the Superintendent of Police ? ^he Mayor remarked lhat he had given the Inspector I the information he could. Mr. Bernard observed that there were no reasons given 1 the report for the conclusions arrived at. The Mayor said that they were formed on a considera- Oil of the number of the population, of the number and Uration of the floating population, and the area of the trough. The Superintendent said th.it a number of questions ad been addressed to him, in a tabular form, respecting *e population, the length of the several beats, and a va- sty of other particulars. Ihe Mayor said that he went round a great part of the >^n with Capt. Willis. Mr. Alderman Lewis inquired how the numbers of the "pulation were arrived at? The Superintendent said that he gave the numbers 'om the last census; he also gave his opinion as to the resent numbers, which he believed to be 35,000, while Je Mayor thought they were 36,000. The To-vn Clerk remarked that Mr. Paine had recently ^culated the population at 33,000, taking as his data le number of houses, as well as the births and deaths. Mr. Bernard said that he had gone over Mr. Paine's Ileulation. and disagreed with him. It was, however, matter of opinion, and he believed the population was ),000. The Mayor said that he was positive there fully 3,000 lfors in the port that very day. I Mr. It. W. Williams said that it appeared to him that le question for discussion was, whether an increase of ie police force was required or not. Mr. Lewis Reece said that the question at issue was, betl.er there was any doubt as to their obtaining the Overnment allowance of one-fourth. The Mayor expressed his regret that Mr. Alderman Williams was not present to express his views. Mr. Alderman C. Vachell remarked that, probably sxt year they might have another man as inspector, who l^ht discover another defect, and require 10 more m n. 1 tvas a great risk. In the meantime, they would be lrrend,;iing their right of self-management, and ex- .Ild¡ng the system of centralization. Mr. Lewis Reece said that it was certain that unless IOY adopted the increase recommended they could have 0 whatever of getting a single shilling. He sug- e?ted th it they should try the experiment for one ytiar, it would be easy to diminish the number if they did get tho money. The inspector had to'd Mr. Stock- that he had no doubt but that he should be able to irtify, hut did not choose to commit himself in writing. ■° iuquired whether there was any instance of any other ,wn having received the allowance. The Superintendent replied that there had not yet 'cn ti ne, for the inspection only commenced in S p- imber last; those were the first reports under the Act I arliwnent. Mr. Alderman Lewis was strongly of opinion that if a men were wanted, it would be better to get them at 'eir own expense than to surrender their power. in reply t0 a qilestioI1) the Town Clerk said that he e(v t,hat. the towns of Swansea and Carmarthen had ^rie increase recommeuded by the inspector. '• Alderman Lewis read a return to show that the "-ar.sca police, with an area of eight miles, only num- \\b Yhe 8uPeri,itendent's salary was £ 130, ith £ 2o lor a horse, and he had not heard any mail olcen more hig, ly of; that return was dated 18.56. Mr. Evan Thomas remarked that the present salary of ie Swansea superintendent was £ 143 1 0 Mr. Alexander read a return to ti. 1. c •lice constables found sufficient for Merthv*3 UU Dr. Edwards was of opinion that were knM e >cks, no increase of police would be required • °l "oportion of the crimes were committed at the^ id it was the floating population that occupied so mnoV,' the time of the present, force he was of opinion that e doc=c authorities should provide the increased force, e thoug.it that it would be exceedingly unwise on the ere hint of the Government Inspector to incur an addi- )nal expense ef £ 600 or £ 700 per annum. Let every b stand 0:1 its own bottom The Jfajor inquired whether the inhabitants at the 'cks J1le. the CorP°ration and Trustees 8ro nt lo0Q<?rhGtids« Xuoro rmltr oyed at the east and west docks. mea em" Mr. Bernard thought that the docks were in >f»Uon as the railways, and the owners ouaht own police. ght to r Edwards said that whenever any violence n™ J. th, Wough police called in. He i^J; 'Wok a.» h«Tl° 7' -ln 7h',ch T'1s ,tated ll'at the Setoff1 been insulted, and it had been made a Government inquiry. had no right to watch » 18 they were private property. a c The Superintendent said the police only went there when called upon. „ Mr. Alderman C. Yachell fully concurred in all that Dr. Edwards had said, with one exception. He denied that the French flag had been insulted; it was a mere row in which some labourers were engaged, who did not know one flag from another. Mr Lewis Reece said there was no doubt whatever but that more policemen were required. He should propose an additional man for the North-road Let other gentlemen propose any other where they knew that they were required. It hid bejn stated that they were wanted in Plucca-lane and Llanarth-road. Mr. Alderman C. Vachell said that they had better determine whether they would have an increase of men at all. With a view to bring the matter to a decision he would move that it was inexpedient to surrender their right of self-government, and, therefore, that the recom- mendation of the inspector should not be adopted. Mr. Bernard said that several members would wish to support the resolution, but objected to the wording. Mr. Alderman C. Vachell then altered the motion as follows —" That the Watch Committee decline to receive the police force to the full amount recommended by the Government Inspector. Mr. Bernard seconded the motion, Mr. Elliott said that he had taken some little trouble ie making inquiries into this matter. He found that in Liverpool they had (besides the Water Police) one con* stable to every 656 of the population, while in Cardiff they had only one to 995 it was, therefore, a query whether the Council was doing its duty to the public. No one would be more delighted than himself to see Dock Police instituted, and he thought it was the duty of those who derived so large a revenue from them, to provide proper protection for property there; but the in- habitants were not to continue in danger while they were disputing. He thought there could be no doubt, after all that had been said, that they should obtain the Government grant, if they made the force efficient ac- cording to the inspector's recommendation, and he thought it was their duty to the inhabitants to adupt it. Mr. Alderman Lewis enquired whether Mr. Elliott would undertake to guarantee the payment of the grant. Mr. Elliott replied that if the matter was left open until next meeting he would find a guarantee. He then moved as an amendment, "That the Police Force be in- creased as recommended by the Government Inspector." Mr. Pride seconded the amendment. Mr. Lewis Reece wished to k[}[)\y from the Town Clerk, supposing that in the course of a year or two they found that the Government kept faith with other Corpo- rations, and then increased their force, wnether they would be in the same position with regard to the allow- ance. The Town Clerk said there could be no doubt of that. The allowance was by Act of Parliament made impera- tive, if the Inspector certified that the force was in an efficient state; but they would not stand in as good a position as if they made the increase at once. Mr. Lewis Reece said that reply would govern his vote. Mr. Elliott said it was admitted that they must have five additional men at once- Mr. Alderman Yachell said he wanted to retain the man gement of their own affairs. He would agree to the appointment of as many as the Board thought proper, but would not submit to the dictation of another. A division took place, and the names stood as follows :— For the motion—against the increase: Aldermen D. Lewis and C. Yachell; Councillors Bernard, Alexander, E. Thomas, G. Watson, L. Reece, and Dr. Edwards-S. .For the amendment: Alderman Morgan; Councillors J. Elliott, J. Pride, R. W. Williams, D. Jotham, W. A. Bradley, and the Mayor-7. The motion was accordingly c irried by a majority of one, and the Inspector's report was not adopted. The Committee then separated.

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