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Newport Town Council Meeting.


Newport Town Council Meeting. TUESDAY. t The quaiterly meeting of the Town Council was held at th' Town Hall; present, H. J. Davis, Esq, mayor, chairman Messrs Hughes, llomfray, Latch, Renoie, Burlon, Townsend, Mullock, Edward. Williams, Jenkins, Dowling, Knapp, Llewellm, Batchelor, Evanl, Dnies, Iggulden, and Turner. The Town Clad, read the minutes of the committee meetings, held since the last quarterly meeting of the council, and said as Mr English had presented his last report, it would perhaps bd received at once by the council.—This was agreed to. Mr Batchelor said the committee appointed to confer with the Caaal Company, as to the intended crossings of the public streets, &c, had a report ready for presentation, through Mr Williams, the surveyor. Before this matter was entered upon, however, The Town Clerk said he had written to Mr Thomas, farmer, respecting the application recently made for costs incurred by P.C. Bith, io a case directed by the former persan. No reply had been received. Mr Townsend stated that Mr Lgwi,.i, if present, would be enabled to make out a good case for Mr Thomas, who really did not appear responsible as to the costs. Mr Llewellm wished to know the amount of the Board of Health rate uncollected. The Town Clerk could not state the sum at that moment, as the collector was not present. Mr Llewellin observed that the members of the council cams there to ascertain the state of affairs and it was desirable when a question as to their financial position was asked, their officer should be there, prepared to answer it. Mr Renoie suggested that the total amount the rate was cal. culated to produce, should stand at the head of the account; and then it would be seen, from the entries of receipts below, what balance remained uncollected. Other members expressed their approval of this plan and Mr Llewellio moved, Mr Rennie seconded, and it was resolved That the amounts and dates of the last rate be placed in IC. counts for the future." The Town Clerk said this practice was uniformly adopted in the ledger, as appeared, on its production. The Suiveyor, being called upon by Mr Batchelor, then read the report of the committee appointed to confer with the Canal Company, as to the intended railway crossings, to the Dock- street terminus, in Mill-street, High-street, &c. 271h April, 1852. Meeting, King's Head :—Present,Messrs Homfray.Batchelor, Reooie, Lyne, and Harrison and Mr A Williams, town sur- veyor, on behalf of the Council. MILL-STREET Mr Hennie proposed; on behalf of the com- mittee, that the "Inclination of the roadway, at Mill-street, if altered on west side of bridge, be not less than one in thirty, and if altered on east side of bridge, not worse than at present. HIGII-STUEET.—That the road at High-street, if altered, Ilull be level on the west side of the railway, within the part altered, and not worse in inclination on the east side.—That a continuation of Market-street be provided 30 feet wide, from the point where limiis of deviation cross Market street to High- street, near Masters's shop, in lieu of the road along the canal side. ROADS TO WHARFS.—That the level crossing and bridge over the c3nal to the Moderator Wharf and Ebbw Vale, be main tained. Mr Rennie proposed that the company should give the public a road, of about 22 feet wide, from Skinner-street to Llaoarih-street, along side of railway or canal. The com- mittee proposed to withdraw any opposition to clause for taking off restriction as to position of station, if other points were conceded. The Town Clerk then read the following letter, from the com- pany's solicitors:— Bristol, 1st May, 1852. DEAR SIR,— We believe that you ere professionally con- cerned in the petition of the corporation of Newport, against this bill, and we therefore beg to inquire what course the pe- titioners intend to take. The parliamentary committee appointed on the 16th ultimo, to conduct the bill, have carelully considered the siipulations proposed to Mr Harrison, and advised with Their parliamentary agents thereon, and they cannot consent to introduce any clauses in their bill, to meet these stipulations. They trust that the corporation will rely on tbeir making the works, in the best way to suit public convenience, and in every respect in conformity with the Lands and Railway Clauses Consolidation Acts. We shall be iu committee, on Tuesday, the 18th inst, and therefore request the favour of aa early communication. We are, dear sir, yours truly, "SAVERY, CLARE, AND CO. Thomas Woollett, Esq, Solicitor, "Newport Moomoulhshile," Mr Rennie suggested that the meeting should now proceeded to discuss the question, whether they should oppcae the com- pany or not. Some coovijriiiioa having anaued, respecting the gradient* which would be caused by the several crossings, Mr Rennie said, that as one of the parties deputed to confer with the company on this matter, he solicited rhe allenlloo of the meeting for a few minutes, He wished to make a few ob servations on the purposed alterations of roads, &c, by the com. pany, and the requiiements of the council committee. But filSl, he would observe, that he was not factiously opposed to the bill or the company, in this matter. (Hear, hear.) He then pro reeded to show that the proposed crossings at Mill-streei aod High-street, were objectionable in regard to the levels which would be made, and the gradients likely to be caused in the ap- proaches thereto, especially in High-street; and stated that if the company deprived the public of the road which now led from the canal bridge in High street, along the side of the canal to the British school, where it led to the market, and ihus formed an important public road, the company ought certainly to substitute « new road for it, next to Mr Master's prem;ses, along by the Steam Packet Ion, and so on to the market. Now, the company might say the Lands Consolidation Clauses Act, would compel them to provide a road for any road they should take away, provided the former had been a public road. It might be set up in this case, peihaps, that the road in question, had not been a public one. But he thought it had looj; enough been a public thoroughfare, to make it a road in which the public had a vested right; and whether they were entitled to have a new road substituted for it, and whether they would claim it. he would leave the meeting to say. The Mnyor My opinion is, we are entitled to it, and ought to have it and when 1 saw Mr Harrison on the subject, he raised nc objection on the point. Mr Rennie thought so likewise. Then as to Skinner-street- he thought the corporation had a right, if not for a highway, at least for a footpath but it was necessary to look after it at present, before too late. For it surely would be better 10 secure whatever right of the town were involved, at present, rather than by a cosily proceeding hereafter, before the Lord Cbancellor or other expensive tribunal. The Mayor believed there never was a public road from Skinner-street down the side of the canal. Mr Llewellio thought there was a clause in the old act of the company, that those roads of the company should be considered as easements, &c. Air. Homfray said there was power obtained by the act re- ferred to, to uke tolls of the public for horses crossing and pass- ing over the company's roads and this was to all intents prt- serving the rights of roads in the company. Mr Jenkins observed that it would appear, the public having obtained rights by encroachments, the meeting intended to ask the company not merely to confirm those lights, but also to sub- stitute new roads lor those of the company, which were taken Itfr their o-a purposes. Mr Rennie said they should alsoask for a road to be preserved to the public for crosstog to the Moderator Wharf. Mr Jenkins thought there was no dispute about that. Mr Rennie said the. notwithstanding it might not be dispu'ed there was nothing in the plan, or in the clauses, to show thai I such crossing was preserved to the public and unless it WHS propeily understood at present, it would be too late to see about it when the ri-,ilway was made. And then as to Cross-siteet- there was another public road there, crossing the company's properly Mr Homtray That is an old parish road-one of the easements." Mr Reooie proceeded: They wanted the company to give the corporation two roads into lown, as level II I bey were at pre- sent and the new road to the market iot ead of thereat by the canal side which the railway would oceupy as well as a roadway from Skiuzker-otreet to Llonarth-strest. There waa a road at present from Skinner-street, along in front of Mr Batchelor premises, and down to the entrance of Friar's Fields, wido enough for a can; then followed a peice of road which could only be used as a footpath for a short distance and then again a roadway wide enough for a cart to the bottom of Llsnarth-street. Well, they asked the company to give them, for ibis public way, a new toad 22 feet wide from one street to another. They understood from Mr Xiyne, the agent for Mr Herbert, that the land for a roadway from Dock-street to Llanarth-s'reet, would be given to that gentleman by the com- pany and they now asked the company to give them a con- tinuation of that road, to Skinner-street, as well. Mr Jenkins: Mr Herbeit exchanged—foot for foot of land. Mr Rennie: But there is only a small portion of the road we ask for, that we are not entitled to. Mr Jenkins You are not entitled to 22 feet all the way. Mi W Evaos: Does Mr Rennie's proposition embrace the corner of Corn street (Mr Edward's officI.) 1 That corner would be requirtd, if the toad was formed from Skinner street. The Mayor: But the canal would diverge just at that point. Mr Homfray, to Mr Jenkins If you fill up the canal, to mnke y'r line, you will not require to lake down the corner, to make a 22 feet roadway. Mr JtJokira The canal my be diverted or filled up, and perhaps not. Whenever the line is made, it will not be for passengers, but only for goods traffic. Mr Rennie thought as the company showed no indications of a disposition to concede anything, the corporation most watch them. He for one, as a member of the council, would allow no railway to pass through the town, without closely watching the interests of the public in refeience thereto. Mr Jenkins observed that the corporation were protected by the Consolidation Clauses Act and in reference to an observation by Mr Rennie, as to proceeding before the Lord Chancellor, remarked that locnl nugistrates might be appealed to, and a penally for the emission of what should have been done, could be daily levied, so long as the wrong remained. The meeting was asking the compauy to mike concessions as la roads which were not known to be public roads; and the company was asked, not only to say they were pubtic, hut to improve them cooside* ably. And at what compensation to the company was this to be done. The corporation «ould not oppose the taking off restriction as to position of stition clause. No other compeosation could be ascertained. 'But that was Dot of moment to the company; for if it could not be obtained, they should let the matter s'and. Toe Mayor IUigelted that the letter of the company's soli- citors did not remove the impression, that whatever advantage could be taken by the the company, would be. (L-iughter.) Nlr. Jitmes Davies thought it was a most iogeuiously-wriiten letter. Mr. Llewellin, in reference to an observation as to the roads in question being public, contended that they were public by common and statute law and the corporation should maintain its rights respecting them. As to proceeding before local magistrates for a remedy, the company might then oppose, and raise the question of right which the local magistrates would say should first be decided, before they could inteifeie. The company were now going to make good roacis for themselves from one eod of the town to the other; and as they would require aome of the corporation roads, they should provide yood 8ubltitutes, and meet the corporation liberally. If a conciliatory course were not admitted by the company, the corporation had no alternative but to oppose them. Mr. Jenkins: Supposing you go before the Commons com- mittee, as to those roads-the committee would not oider the roads to be enlarged. Mr. Llewellin; But surely, they would direct that the roads should be as good as they are at present. Mr. Jenkins If there is any factious difficulty success- fully raised to their through the town, the company loust with- draw the bill, Mr. Rennie would ask Mr. Jenkins-not as one of the com- pany, but as a member of the couflcd-was there anything unreasonable in asking for a road from High-street to the market,in lieu of that which the company would lequire by the canal side ? Mr. Jenkins said if the latter were a public road, then it would not be unreasonable that rhe company should provide another for it. But the matter hioged on Ihe question, whether it was a public road or not. Mr. Llewellin suggested that it would be much cheaper !o oppose the bill now, and thus obtain their rights, than to do so before the Lord Chancellor. Mr. Latch said there had been much discussion on this matter, and he would now piopose that the council confer wi h the company, with a view to an amicable arrangement. He submitted the following resolution alter its amendment by the Mayor:— "That the committee be riqufsled to confer with the Monmouthshire Railway and Cdn..1 Company, respecting the matters referred to in, their report and that th y be authorised to take such steps, and incur such expenses, as they may deem necessary, either by negotiation or opposition iu parliament, for the purpose of obtaining such clauses in the till now before parliament, as they deem espedient for maintaining the rights, and for the safety and benefit, of the public." Mr. James Davies seconded the resolution, and said they could not do better than re-err;power the former gentlemen, who had already been engaged as a committee on the mailer. 1\11. Batchelor remarked that as he had some; private nego- tiations also pending with the company, on his own account, he would suggest that Mr. Llewellin take his place. Mr. Rennie also observed, that as he had been opposed to the company in personal matters, it would be well to substitute another committee-man fur himself. Mr. Dowhng andoibergen,letqen urged that the present com- mittee should continue their ser»:"es, and that Mr. Llewt-llin would be a good auxiliary. Ao immensity of good might hedont- and a severe infliction of expense prevented, by continuing the negotiation—by holding out the olive branch. Mr. Jenkins said the company had not the slightest objection to Mr. Rennie's continuing negotiations on behalf of the coun cil-indeed, they would prefer him to continue. The Mayor said he had heard many members of the canal company speak of Mr. Rennte as having acted in a most straight- forward manner. Mr. Llewellin would serve the committee with great pleasure but he thought all at that board had an equal interest in the affairs of the town, and should not allow private matters to inter- fere with their public duty. On the motion of Mr. Lewis Edwards, seconded by Mr. Thomas, Mr. Llewellin was added to the committee, ltlr. Jenkins said he did not concur i,it the last portion of the report of thf) committee, and should therefore enter his pio- test against it: that if, hereafier, expenses should be incurred by the parliamentary opposition, (which exuenses, lii.e those of windiug up St. Paul's clock, they might find the corporation had no authority to pay), it should not be said he had agreed with the proposition to incur them. A long conversation followed, in which Mr. Latch and other gentlemen urged the advisability, on each tide, of settling the maiter amiably between the aouncil and the company and it was at length arranged that some influential gentlemen of the parliamentary committee of the o mpany, and who were now in the neighbouihood-^namely Mr Prothero, Mr Jenkins, Mr. Conway, &c,, should be met by the council committee on Thursday, when every means should be adopted to tffect an amicable adjustment of the matters in question. Mr. Edward Thomas proposed that the watch committee and other reports should be received nnd confirmed, aLpd that E5 should be given to t)allimore as the rjward offered J)y the watch committee for the conviction of 'he child. tnurdereis." Mr. Moses Scard, amongst the spectators outside the bar, cried out: Gentlemen, I protest against that—it is a most ir. famous thing. Mr. Batchelor: It is a most impudent thing that any one not a member of this board should speak in that manner here. A Councillor: Call the Sergeaot-at- Arms. (A laugh.) Mr. Scard apologised, and the proposition of Mr. Thomas was agreed to. Mr. Llewellin then moved that £ 6 6i-, charged Mr. Lindsay for the use 01 the Town Hall during the late election, should be remitted. The Mayor spoke against the motion, and complained of the matter being brought on, he having arranged with Mr. Llewellin, that as the hall 'Aa3 requited for a private meeting of Mr. Lindsay and his fr ends, the customary charge should be made, as he did not agree with the propriety of allowing either party having the use of the hall gratuitously. A proiracttd and somewhat stormy discussion followed, in which several members protested against the refusal of a public hall for the use of a put-lie meeting during an election, and others contended that the Mayor had exercised a proper dis- cretion in acting as he had. particularly as a motion had been formerly passed and entered on the book, giving a discretionary power, in cases where the room was required, to the Mayor for the time being. No order was made on the question, the motion having been withdrawn and the meeting then adjourned to Saturday to re- ceive the report of the committee deputed to cooler with the Monmourhshire Railway and Canal Company and parliament- ary committee. The bje-laws for the regulation oftodgins-homes and slaugh- ter-houses »ere adopted on the motion of Mr. Tomer, and se- conded by Mr. Latch and the meeting then adjourned.


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