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f. ciACE asked whether the ny authentic inforlllatiol1 most incredible rumour iu that an armistice had been e Boers in ^faca'. ivlMBKKLEVT said the statement .ustioe had been conc!uled was true, rv& i the telegram ou ttie subject, which j under our w >r news.
ECCLESIASTICAL COURTS.
ECCLESIASTICAL COURTS. Archbis' op of CANTERBURY, moved i address to the Cro-vn praying for the utmeut of a Roy d Commission to enquire he condition and working of the Ecclesias» Courts, as created or modified under the rmation. He a dd behoved for this C'ommis- at the unanimois reqv.est of the Upper Convocation, ,n 1, lie intent adJ, the House of Convocation shared the 0: iuion th t such a Commission was de.->iruble. He knew no better cu-se than the issue of a K<>yal Commission to inj die into the •whole of this intricate and difficnl; subject, hic'i had not been investigated for fifty year". All the courts hich had to Jo with the clergy were now entirely in the h"wl of other judges, who had nothing to do with the old theory of the Ecclesias- tical Courts. The whole subject not doalt with ia 1874, when the Public Worship Re_ru!a- tio i Act of 1 -74 was passed, because it w is thought better t!.at there should be a thorough investigation of the subject before steps were taken. but the attitude "f those clergyr. en who had been im. prisoned for defying the Act bid rendered it necessary that a coirynissioa s:10ald be appointed. By theAct of Henry V l II., commonly called"The Submission of the Cleiry Statute," the Court of Debates appoints-1 but there was nnw great doubt as to the p wers of that Court. an i it was desirable that tull enquiry should be made into the whole R,-u'nject. He it was desired that there should be > full understanding of the position iu v.?hich the Church of England rea!!y was, all,11 hifl hoped that the commission, if granted, wouuF| dispel the misunderstanding I jealousies now existin r, and en\b!e the Church of Eng- land to do well the w)rk which God had com- mitted to her, Lord ORAxVMOKE and BUOWXE who had an amendment on t e puper, declaring that, inasmuch as the subject had. been reported 011 by a lroyal C0mmission in 1SJ2, and inasmuch as in the cases of the Revs. T. P. and R. W. Enrag :t, the Judges of the High Court of Judicature had unanimously declared that the Court, lmder the Public Worship Act, was the same that had existed from the time of Lord Coke, and was neither a new court nor bad any new jurisdiction, was the opinion of the House that it waa not d<sir ible to present the proposed address to her M;»jestv, s ii,| iB did not see how it could be expected that any further information on the question could he obtained beyond w! at was already in their possession, and he deprecated the propose. 1 commission as a loss or time and a ji money. The Bishop of PETERBOROUGH urged that, the course proposed by the motion for a commisiion was one that ouiht to commend itseif to the House as offering the best j means of aacert rain; by careful euquiry, what modiac ,tions, if auv, s>.ould be made in the exist- ing law*. He Lop>d the Commission would be a thoroughly representative one, aud tllat it would not only enquire into what uas urgeJ on both sides, but that it would arrive at a well-considered report that would be of service in the ultimate settlement of the questions involved. The bishops, in asking for this Commission, v ere sincerely desirous of promoting peace in the Church and obedience to the hw, and he hoped that one result of the Commission would be the appointment of court3, the working of which would be so improved and the constitu- tion so clear,that their decision, even on ambiguous rubrics, would be generally accepted. Lord REDESDALE thought it very desirable that they should consider what was the preroga- tive of the Crown, one part of wLicii was to deal j with evildoers and the stubborn. The Archbishop of YORK supported the motion a Koyal Commission, remarking that he had come round to the conclusion from the opinion he had at fiist held. £ ,The LORD CHANCELLOR, in stating the reasons why the Government assented to the motion, remarked that the proposal not only came in with all the weight of the high authority by which it was backed, but that it was in. itself a moet reasonable one, as no one who had paid any attention to the subject eeuld say that the present position of the courts of first instance in regard to ecclesiastical matters was a satisfactory •ne. -r The amendment being negatived without a \livision, the motion was agreed to. The House adjourned at 8.15 p.m.
HOUSE OF COMMONS.—Monday.
HOUSE OF COMMONS.—Monday. The House met at four o'clock. I EDUCA TIO IN WALES. Sir ROBERT CUNLIFFE asked the Vice- President of the Council if he was able to state when the report of the Departmental commission npon Higher and Intermediate Education in Wales, presided over Ly Lord Aberdare, will be laid on tbe table, and if be could hold out any hope that the Government will be able to deal with the subject in the course of this session. Mr MUNDELLA, in reply, said I understand the Welsh Committee have completed their inquiry, and examined about 300 witnesses, and are now considering ther report. But as this is not ex- pected to be presented to the Education Department for several weeks to come, I cannot hold out any hope that it will be considered by us in time to allow the bringing in of legislation this session. In this and other cases he hoped the wishes of the hon. member would be carried out.
KRUGELl'S REPLY.
KRUGELl'S REPLY. Lord RANDOLPH CHURCHILL gave notice that to-morrow he would ask the Prime Miuister if in the event of Kruger's reply proving accep- table to her Majesty's Government, whether the government intended to conclude terms of peace with the Boers in the TransvaiU, before having communicated those terms to the House of Com- mons in a way in which the House can express an 'opinion of them. (Oh, oh )
NEW WRIT.
NEW WRIT. On the motion of Lord R. GROSVENOR, a new writ was ordered to issue for an election of a member for Coventry, in the room of Sir H. M. Jackson, who has accepted the office of the J udge oi the High Court.
PEACE PRESERVATION (IRE. LAND)…
PEACE PRESERVATION (IRE. LAND) BILL. he House having gone into Committee on the Pt ice Preservation (Ireland) Bill, lajor NOLAN moved to except from the pei sous prohibited from carrying arms justices of the peace, persons in Her Majesty's naval and military services, or in the coast guard service, or in tbe service of the revenue, or in the police, or Royal Irish Constabulary, or special constables, or jurors, or clergymen. Sir VV. HARCOURT hoped to shorten the pro- ceedings by explaining that the plan of the Bill was to leave to the Lord Lieutenant by his pro- clamation to fix the conditions on which the was to leave to the Lord Lieutenant by his pro- clamation to fix the conditions on which the licenlle to carry arms shoulti be heltl, The amend- ment was incompatible with the principle of the measure, and he failed to understand on what ground jurors should be allarmed. Mr DAWSON desired, if the carrying of arms was to be prevented, to see the Act carried out v ithout favour to any person or class. Mr CALLAN had iutended to move an in- struction that it should be in the power of the Committee to extend the Bill to England, and he "as not without hope that on the third read- ing the House" oul. I, in f-drness aud justice, see the propriety of so extending it. He was not willing to leave it to the Lord Lieutenant to determine' who should bo allowed to carry arms, and thought that as on all former ooeasioaa, the matter ought to ba decided by Parliament. Sir J. M'KENNA also objected te the power which the first clause as it stood would c >nfer I upon the Lord Lieutenant. Mr LEAl Y arguel that if the purpose was to deal wit i midnight marauders they ought not te take away the me: ns of defence from the attacks II of such persons. Sir J.'HAY looked with alarm at the extent to vhich revolvers were disseminated in England and Scotland, and thought that there should be a record oi the persons possessing them. Major NOLAN had no objection to add to the amendment the words providing oa the registra- tion of arms." Mr Biggar, Mr Finigan, Mr Sexton, and others having spoken, Sir W. HARCOURT pointed out that the I amendment would destroy the obj ct of the Bill, because a man allo wed to keep arms in his bouae Could choose his o. n time for takin them out Of the house. Mr MARUM sn _'gested the iusertion of the w,¡,rds" knowingly or wi.fui'y." The SOLICITOR-GENERAL for IRELAND explained that a person would not be liable to penaldea under the Act for arms placed in his premises without his knowledge. Mr Gregorv, Dr. Commins, Mr Leamy, n(1 Mr Justin McCarthy added some observations, tfter which the amendment was negatived wit > aut a division, Mr LALOH, desired -to introduce the words Outside of his own land," with the object of enabling farmers to keep guns for agricultural purposes. W. HARCOURT stated that it was only iu pioclaimed districts that there uould be any re- itrictiou, and even in those cases farmers would have no difficulty in getting licenses for the fire arms necessary to keeo birds from their crops. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL for IRELAND Erged that restrictions w' aid only lessen the Lorrt- deutenant's responsibility, ■ Sir J. McKENNA did not recommend his hon. friend to persist in the the amendment, as the division would be only a useless form. The House divided— For the amendment 29 Against 217 Majority 138 Mr M'COAN proposed an amendment provid- M12 ing alternative means by which permission to earry arms might b9 obtained, namely, a magis- terial certificate or the proclamation of the Lord. ieutenant. ip Sir W■ HARCOL R T thought it better to leave CO the discretion of the Lord-Lieutenant the ap- pointment of persons to give licenses. Local (magistrates were not, ;«rhaps, the best persons to grant licenses, because they might be influenced »y considerations connected with the preservation Of game. £ The amendment was v. ithdrawn after a brief discussion. Mr DAWSON moved an amendment requiring that the licenses for the carrying of arms should be er i'>ted in ooen court. Sir W. HARCOURT opposed, and the amend- "r.-tnt was defeated by 122 to 27* Mr W. CORBETT moved that a person carrying arms or ammunition in contraveation of the Act should not be arrested without a warrant. Sir W. HARCOURT opposed, and the amend- ment was negatived by 116 to 32, Mr O'DONNELL moved that arrests without warrants should only take place between suuset an sunrise. Sir W. HARCOURT could Laruly believe that tbe proposal was serious. Dr. Commins, Mr Healy, Mr T. P. O'Connor, aud Mr Sexton asjreeed that persona who carried weapons in the day were not persous who were likely to commit crimes. Mr. BIGG A R having also spoken in favour of the amendment it was rejected on adivisioaby 151 to 35. Mr HEALY reposed that a person arreated should be at once brought before a magistrate, and if he helel a license, or was a messenger of a persott Wklins a license, he should have reasonable o;)portunity of proving tite fact. Sir W. HARCOURT said the object was alrea "y carried out by the wording of the Bill. Sir J. M'IVJENXA and Mr SEXTOX thought the amendment reasonable. The amendment was further supported by Dr. CO.VIMIN- Sir W. HARCOURT promised that if the in. tention that the person arrested should be forth- with brought bdure a magistrate was not suffi- ciency clear, all alteration would ba made at a btr stage of the Bill. The amendment was thereupon wir.hdrs.wn. Major NOLAN propose i that the power of eear< h, instead of bein given to a cOlJstable or peace ouicer, should be limited to a sub-in- srector, or other snperiof officer of constabulary. Sir W. HARCOURT objected to the proposal. Mr PARNELL thought it could scarcely be compreh-ended by the committee that the Clause gave to every 1:0 er to subject any man or woiiar. on the highway to tho indignity of a personal search. Colonel MAKINS reminded the hon. member that a similar power wis given by the Poaching Ac. Mr O'DONNELL hoped the House was not poiag to be guided iu t' is matter by such a prece- dent as the E-iglish cav against poachers. Mr MACDON'ALD suggeste 1 the possibility of a constable lising the po..q¡r of search to abstract money from the pocke of an inebriated IliaD re- turning from a fair, lie regretted the necessity for be power of search, but pointed out tlJat the am^iidment would subject the suspected person to .greater inconveuien.cathan he would be put to under this clause as it stood. Mr HE A L Y having spoken. Sir W. HARCOURT admitted the force of he objection to search by the police, and thought it wo ud be betier to et rid of the search altogether. He p' oposed, therefore, that persons suspected of c^rryinc arms should be arrested and forthwith tdkD b<>fnre a magistrate. The amendment was withdrawn, and the altera- tion suggested by the Home Secretary was carried out. JMr SEXTON proposed to exclude from the buildings allowed to be searched for arms places of religious worship, or houses occupied by religious c mmunitie*. Sir W. HARCOURT said it had alw .ys been the law of England th,1.t uo exception of that kiiul should he Mr O'DONXELL and Sir -T. M'KENNA hoped the :1meudment would be withdrawn. The amendment was withdrawn. Mr SEXTON moved tuat the search war- rant shouid be executed within seven i:1stead of 21 da- S, but withdrew it in favour of a rrop"al by Sir W. Harcourt to make the time ten days. Mr SHXTUN afterwards proposed that pre- vious to forcing an tnTy the person executing the warrant should proclaim his business and authority. On the recommendation of Mr GIBSON, Sir W HARCOURT consented to introduce the words to that effect from the Act of 1875. Mr HEALY wished to introduce words pro- viding that persons delivering up arms and ammunition should receive the valae. Sir W. HARCOURT stated that the Govern- ment were willing in ti.e case of voluntary surrender that the arms or the value at the time of the surrender should be returned to the owners when the proclamation ceased to be in force. The proposal of the Government was accepted, and Mr Healy did not press his amendment. A division cn the Question that clanse 1 stand part of the Bill resulted in the adoption of the clause by 172 to 28. Progress was then reported.
BILLS OF SALE ACT AMENDMENT…
BILLS OF SALE ACT AMENDMENT DILL. Mr MON-K moved the second reading of the Bills of Sale Act (1873) Amendment Bill. Mr E. ASHLEY, assenting to the second read- ing, said the Government had a Bill on the subject on the stocks. Mr R, N. FOWLER moved the adjournment of the debate, but was defeated by 93 vutes to 19. The Bill was read a second time.
TRAMWAYS IN IRELAND.
TRAMWAYS IN IRELAND. Major NOLAN brought in a Bill to amend the Tramways (Ireland) Acts of I860, 1861, aud 1871.
BRANDING SCOTCH HERRINGS.
BRANDING SCOTCH HERRINGS. On the motion of Mr R. DUFF, a Select Com- mittee was appointed to inquire into the expediency of continuing the present system of branding herrings in Scotland, and into the appro- priation of the revenne raised from the brand fee. The House adjourned at 25 minutes past one o'clock.
. HOUSE OF LORDS—TUESDAY.
HOUSE OF LORDS—TUESDAY. The Lord Chancellor took his seatat five o'clock. On the motion for going into Committee on the ALKALI WORKS REGULATION BILL, Lord MIDDLETON observed that the evil with which the measure proposed to deal was a very great and growing one, b it he looked upon the Bill as inferior to its predecessor of last year, which, in its tnrn, was inferior to the Bill of 1879. He admitted that it contained same valuable im- provements, but considerable amendment would be reQuired if it were to be made effectual. The House having resolveditaeli into Committee, Lord MIDLETON proposed to amend the 7th Clause by placing coke works under the stringent regulations proposed to be applied to sulphuric acid works. The Marquis of HUNTLEY objected that it would be scarcely fair to impose such conditions on existing coke ovens. Lord ALSERDARE, though he did not alto. gether approve of the form of the amendment, thought coke ovens ought to be brought under more stringent regulations. The Earl of KIMBERLEY understood that to require coke to be at once placed under the strongest provisions of the Bill, would render the carryin on of the business in a number of cases impossible, in consequence of the heavy ex- penses that would be involved. It was well also to remember that the chief uuisance from coke ovens was the omnaisaion of enormous volumes of black smoke, and that was dealt with by the Public Health Act. The Marquis of HUNTLEY promised to con- sider the question before the report, but Lord MIDLETON pressed his proposal to a division. The result was that the amendment was negatived by 46 votes to 28. Lord ABERDARE poiuted out that in an action for damage by noxious works the 27th clause would require the joining together of every work thatntributed, however slightly, to the injury. The Commission recommended that all noxious works should be brought, in some form or other, under the operation of the Act, but several descriptions of manufactures, of which great complaiuts were made, were not included in the Bill, and that being so he proposed to omit the words from the clause, ao as to enable the action to j be maintained against the principal offender only. The Marquis of SALISBURY hoped that the clause which stood would be adhered to. The Earl of DERBY expressed the opinion that if the worda iu question were Btruck out the Bill would not be worth sending down to the other House. The principle of collective liability was an essential p.'rt of the measure. The amendment was negatived without a division. Lord MIDLETON moved the addition of a clause empowering the sanitary authority to proceed in eases of nuisance. 1'his proposal wa. alù rejected. Lord MIDLETON proposed to add te the second schedule, works for the manufacture of salt, arsenic, copper, galvanizing and tin-plate works; certain descriptions of ;glnss works, lead, nickel and spelter works, salt, glazing, potteries, taT, dye, and distillery works, and any other works giving off sulphurous acid, nitrogen, or chlorine. The Marquis of HUNTLEY could not accept the addition, though he sympathised with the object of the motion.The chief ground of objection wis the expense and annoyance that manufac- turers would be put to if inspectors were appointed with a roving commission to visit these various works all over the country, in order to find out if noxious gases were allowed to escape from them. The Bill was negatived, and the Bill, with some uuimportanfc alterations, passed through commit- tee.
THE INDIAN MILITARY ESTIMATES.
THE INDIAN MILITARY ESTIMATES. Lord ENFIELD. in reply to Lord Waveney, stated that the further correspondence 011 the military estimates of India, promised in the Speech from the Throne at tiie beginning of the Session, was presented on the 4th of January last. Sense further correspondence relating to the subject was in course of preparation, and was. likely to be distributed in the course of a few days, but there was no material alteration of the estimate as published on the IJth of January. The House adjourned! at teu minutes to seven o'clock.
!HOUSE OF COMMONS—TUESDAY.
HOUSE OF COMMONS—TUESDAY. The Speaker took the chair at four o'clock.
LOCAL PETITIONS TO THE HOUSE…
LOCAL PETITIONS TO THE HOUSE OF COMMONS. In the House of Commons, on Tuesday, petitions praying for an inquiry iuto perpetual pensions were presented by Mr Carbutt from the inhabit- ants of Newport, Mon. and by Sir E. J. Reed for the removal of the electoral disabilities of women from a public meeting held at. Cardiff.
THE LATE WEST OF ENGLAND.…
THE LATE WEST OF ENGLAND. BANK. Mr H. A. FOWLEK asked the Secretary to the Treasury if he would lav on the table of the House details of the sum of £7,Ö87 proposed to be voted for the costs of the prosecution of the direc- tors of the West of England Bank, and of the sum of proposed to be voted for the costs of the prosecution of the directors of the North Counties Assurance Company. Lord F. CAVENDISH: If my hon. friond likes to move for it I shall be happy to lay on the table a return of the expenditure in each of these cases in the same form as that adopted in the case of the Tichborne trial, which will be found in Parliamentary Paper 20,338 of Session 1877.
MR STANHOPE'S MOTION ON CANDAHAR.
MR STANHOPE'S MOTION ON CAN- DAHAR. Sir S, NORTHCOTE asked the Prime Minister for facilities for the discussion of Mr Stanhope's motion in reference to Candahar. Mr GLADSTONE was anxioas to meet the suggestion, and had no difficulty in saying that the first opportunity at his disposal should be de- t voted to that fcurposeu bat having Mid that ha must add that the present condition of business placed severe limitations upon this desire, as indeed it did on their desire to introduce the Land Bill (bear, bear) b it theso were matters of choice, while the busi- ness to which he referred was of a severe inflexible character. Various and numerous votes in supply had to be taken, and the latest of these had to be taken by the 21st March. It was not easy to say what length of discussion these votes might take, but making the best allowance he could he did not expect fo get through them in less than five or six days. After Supply came the Ways and Means Bill necessary to give effect to the votes, which, to comply with, th. provision* of the law, must pass by March 28th. Then there was the Mutiny Act upon which it was possible legitimate discussion might arise, and which it was necessary to pass through the House a considerable time before Easter. These were inflexible matters to which first regard must be p-iia, and the engage- ment lie had given must be subject to t ese. (Hear, hear.) Mr MACFARLAXE asked if Government would postpone tha abandonment of Candahar untH the discussion had taken dape. Mr GLADSTONE did not think his noble frieud had any expectation of any immediate step, but e could not undertake fo give any other engagement. (Heu, hear.)
PEACE NEGOTIATIONS IN THE…
PEACE NEGOTIATIONS IN THE TliANSVAAL KBUUELi'S REPLY. Lord GANUOLPH CHURCHILL asked if, in the event of Kruger's reply to Sir Geo. Colley's communication being acceptable to the Govern- ment, it was the intention to sive the Hou,e an opportunity of exipressing an opinion before peace was concluded, and, he added, would not this be in accordance v. itli the vielv the Prime iiinister had exercised c i h retr-pect to the use and abuse of the treaty-making power of the Government ? (Hear, hear.) > Mr GLADSTOXE did net think the course sug^esLed would be ill accordance with that view. (iletf. hear.) With regard to t e use of the treaty 1l\3.d¡'g" power, the Government were aLlays"nxious to proceed in harmony with %i-h.,t th-v kn"w to be the general sn;e of tile Bou e add nf tile country, but in cases where it was a question of emerging., from a state of LoatilL.y, aud which luignt again become a state of actual hostility, in a colony far remote an l thousands of miles away, he could uot agree that it was desirable to have such a question depend upon the opinion to be expressed by tlit-.IIi)use. (I te:Lr, fieztr.) Lord R. CHURCHILL gave notice that on Thursday he would ask whether the necessiiy for the prompt vindication of the Queeu's au- liority in Lila Transvaal, as expressed iu the Royal Speech from the Throne, still exists and, if not, whether this prompt vindication has been obtained by the buttles of L.ii%'s Nek, Ingogo River, and Majuba Hill-(Oil, o );—or whether it has beèn obtained by tue invasion by the Boers of the Crown colony 0; Natal, cr the repeated declarations of Kluger, Joubert, and others, that nothing b it the complete independence of the Transvaal would satisfy the rebels. (Hear, har.) i r GLADSTO.NE, renlyiug to a further ques- tion fro** Ln-d G. Hamilton, on the subject of the comn.unica-.ion tro u General Colley to the Boers, stated that after the communication from 6ir t. Coiley -as sei.t, he was instructed to the follow- t irig effect:—"Tnat if tiie proposails of the Govern- ment were accepted, Le wns in that case author- ised to agree to a su-pensiou of hostilities." The Government n'jver directed their commander to a-k for or obtain an armistice; but they entirely approved of the conduct of General Wood. (Hear, hear.) Lord G. HAMILTON asked for the date of this instruction. Mr GLADSTONE said it was rather difficult to answer as to dates, but he thought it was on February mch that the communication wa3 sent, and he believed it was on the 10th that the instructions he had just mentioned were given. 31 r LEWIS asked whether the proposal for an armistice proceeded from Her Majesty's represen- tative after the knowledge of the defeat of Feb. 27tn. Mr GLADSTONE tholglJt not, but he did not like to commit himself to the date. He could only say in repiy that he did not wish to be cou- siderea a party to the statement that the proposal for au armistice proceeded from Her Majesty's representative in South Africa. That as a ques- tion upon which they had not full information, but, so far as he was able to judge, he could not affirm that proposition. Undoubtedly whatever Sir E. Wood had done in becoming a party to the armistice had been done in full cognizance of the lamentable events of the 26th. Mr LEWIS save notice of a question for Thurs- day, whether since the 27th the Government had I taken any active steps to bring about an armistice.
PUBLICATION-BY THE PRESS OF…
PUBLICATION-BY THE PRESS OF OFFICIAL INFORMATION. Sir W. HARCOURT, in reference to a question as to the publication in a morning pal.er of what put ported to be a draft of a Government measure for regulating the licensed victuallers' trade, said that of late years a great many printed drafts on many subjects haa got abroad. (A laugh.) But, confidently, he could say that no such draft as that referred to had got abroad, for there never had been such a draft, nor had it been printed.
THE PEACE PRESEUVATION (lttELAND)…
THE PEACE PRESEUVATION (lttELAND) BILL. Mr GLADSTONE, in reply to a question as to the course of business, said it was hoped that the Committee on the Peace Preservation Bill woald conclude to-night, the leport be taken to-morrow, and the remaining stages on Thursday. The House having gone into co-niiiittee on the Peace Preservation (Ireland) Bill, resuming at Clause 2, Mr SEXTON moved an amendment the object of whicu was to eliminate that part of the Clause empowering the Lord Lieutenant to set forth the regulations aud conditions under which the carry- ing or having arms or ammunition was authorised. Sir W. HARCOURT said it was not at all un- usual for an Act of Parliament to confer, as in this case, powers that might be larger than those contained in the Act itself. It was impossible, he argued, to anticipate the precise action that might be requisite at any particular time or in any par- ticular place. In some cases they would need to be more and iu others less stringent. From previous experience of Arms Acts it had been found that they had not been exercised oppres- sively they had only been used for keeping arms out of the hands of persons who were dangerous, and whom it was not right to trust with weapons, and had not been enforced against those who were fairly entitled to have the use of firearms. After some discussion, the Committee divided, and the amendment was negatived, For tbe amendment 31 Against 2V5 Majority 25 Some other amendments havingbeen withdrawn, f the clause itself as amended was then divided UDOlJ. with the following result- I For the clause .M 270 Against .„ 26 Majority 244 On clause 3 giving power to prohibit and regulate the sale aud importation of arms, Mr CALLAN moved the omission of the words "by and with the advice of the Privy Council in Ireland," with the object of confining the re- sponsibility of such prohibitions to the Lord Lieu- tenant. The amendment was opposed by Sir William Harcourt, and a division being challenged the Chairman called on those who supported the amendment to rise in their places. This order having been obeyed, the Chairman counted only ten hon. members, and this being ten less than the number necessary to ensure a division, the amendment was declared to be negatived. Mr SEXTON moved an amendment with the view of striking out that part of the clause which proposed to confer power to prohibit the sale of arms. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL for IRELAND objected to the amendment, and Sir W. HARCOURT pointed out that as the law now stood in England the inspectors had power to enter any store or manufactory and seize ammunition in excess of any specified quan- tity. A division being caHed for those challenging the decision against tiie amendment were counted in their places, and there being only 10 present, the chairman declared the amendment to be negatived. Directly after this the chairman's attention was twice called to the fact that there were not 40 members present, and on each occasion the result of a count .was to show that a quorum had been made during the preliminary interval.
SCENE IN THE HOUSE.
SCENE IN THE HOUSE. MR ODOKNELL SUSPENDED. Mr SEXTON moved an amendment to exempt ani nunition from the prohibitory power. Tfcis was resisted by the HOME SECRE- TARY, and on a division negatived by 106 against 24. Mr SEXTON then moved another amendment to omit the words and the person so acting shall be guilty ot an oSeuce under this Act." The object of the amendment was>,he stated, to exempt from the penalties for breach of the Act persons who infringed this clause and who would, in all probability, have acted with the most innocent intentions. Sir W. HARCOURT, in opposing the amend- ment, pointed out that if the penalty were to be abrogated altogether, they might have cases of traders selling arms and ammunition to persons whom they knew to have been already disarmed by the authorities as dangerous persons. Mr Serjeant SIMON suggested that the inser- tion of the word wilfully," before the words so acting," would meet the case. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL for IRELAND said the Home Secretary was prepared on the report, to bring up a clause enabling the justices to dismiss the charge without infilicting even a nominal penalty, if tney were of opinion that there were circumstances in the case render- ing it inexpedient to inflict any penalty. After some further discussion, Mr FXNEGAN was addressing the committee, when, in answer to interruption from the opposite side of the House, he said he would rather hon. members, would open their mouths than continue to bellow. Some other words which fell from the hon. gentle- man were lost in the interruption that ensued. The CHAIRMAN rose to order, and called on Mr Finigau to withdraw, the words" beastly bellowing." Mr O'DONNELL: Mr O'Connell once in this House applied to hon. members ir W. Harcourt here rose to order. Mr O'DONNELL: I am speaking to order. The CIIAIRMAN I have already given my ruling, and the hon. member for Ennis must withdraw the two last words he used. Mr FINIGAN said the two last words lie used were not used in a personal sense. The CHAIRMAN: The hon. member aù- dressed hon. members of the House in a way that was not courteous, and he must withdraw the objectionable words. Mr CALL AN (amid cries el Ordec "J; I rise ( to order. What two words!
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I THE HOUSE OF COMMONS. By the courtesy of the Proprietors of the PaU Mail Gazette, we are enabled to publish in our journal a plan, which they have recently prepared for their readers, showing the floor of the House of Commons and the seats usually occupied by members. The Pall Mall Gazette, in commenting upon the plan, says :—"The liot of members does not pretend to be completely accurate, for ac- curacy IS impossible. With that fatality which seems to have presided over all the arrangements of the building, the House of Commons does not afford sitting room for more than two-thirds of its members and the same person is not always able, accordingly, to obtain the same seat. As atten- dance at church used to obtain secular reward in the universities, so attendance at prayers in the House of Commons brings its meed of terrestrial gain in the security of a place for the card which establishes the right to a seat can only be inserted immediately after prayer-time. Ministers are entitled by usage to the first bench above the gangway on the Ministerial side, and ex- Ministers on the first bench above the gangway on the Conservative side and. thus secured, Minis- ters and ex.Ministera feel it unnecessary to attend at the solemn invocation of celestial aid to legisla- tive counsels which precedes each sitting. "The seat marks the political opinion and, as most people know, the party in power sits on the right, and the party iu Opposition on the left, of the Speaker. The gangway, as the space is called which runs midway between the seats on either side of the House, forma the boundary between the moderate and the more extreme sects of each party. On the Ministerial side, at present, the gentlemen who sit on the seats behind the Trea- sury bench are those who are supposed to be thick-and-thin supporters of the Ministry. Other gentlemen behind the Treasury bench are landed proprietors of pronounced Whig views, and lawyers and aldermen of less determinate opinions. Below the gangway are the Radicals. whose allegiance is uncertain, and over whose ranks broods the spirit of mutiny. On the same benches is to be found the section of Home Rulers which acknowledges Mr Shaw for chief. Cro3singover to the opposite side, Sir Stafford Northcote on the front Opposition bench sits I opposite the box on the table. This box-or rather j the two boxes—play a not unimportant part in the oratory of the House. The Minister or ex- Minister when lie addresses the House nearly always leans his arm on either of these two boxes; strikes it when he is angry, pats it when he is playful, and plays with the brass handle Oil the top when he wishes to be easily conversational. The opportunity of speaking marks a great- sometimes, people Fay, the only-differeiice be. tween the holder or ex-holder of high office and the ordinary member. The ordinary member has, to stand bolt upright with nothing to lean upon and if he have papers he has to leave them on his seat; and if in moments of passion—real or parliamentary passion-he wishes to be emphatic, he has no better means than that of striking one hand against the other. Below the gangway, on the Conservative side, sit the wilder spirits of the party. In the last party this meant the ultra- Jingoes; in the present Parliament Jingoism's, forlorn advocates, in the shape of Sir W. Palliser and Mr Ashmead-Bartlett, are ensconced imme- diately behind the front Op: osition bench. The Fourth party is seated on the front bench below the gangway—Lord Randolph Churchill in the first seat, and then Mr Gorst, Mr Balfour, and Sir H. D. Wolff, The remainder of this seat is occu- pied by the Parnellite Home Rulers, who also occupy the two seats behind. There is a delightful confusion occasionally in the ranks of the Irish and Conservatives, a vehement defender of Church and State being often inconveniently sandwiched between even a Biggar and a Healy. Mr Parnell does not always occupy the same place but he usually strives to have a seat about midway on the second bench, so as to be in easy communication with his followers, who sit before, behind, and around him. There are some rather restless spirits, whose whereabouts change every evening and often every hour. Chief among these are a few of the Home Rulers who wish to hunt with the Government and run with Mr Parnell. They make a rush for the cross benches, which are at the end on either side, or wander about the bar, or hide themselves in the Cimmerian darkness of the seats, behind the Speaker's chair. Among the changeful spirits must be also counted some of the Governmental officials of the minor order, who cannot find room on the Treasury bench they either take refuge on the second seat, or stand beside the Speaker's chair. The most familiar face in the latter place is that of Mr Courtney, who may be nightly seen surveying the parliamentary comedy with friendly complacancy. A few of the older members have been displaced from the old seats by the ardour and irreverence of youthful legislators. The first seat or the second below the gangway knows Mr Hubbard no more. Mr Newdegate requires all the aid of his red handker- chief to warn off Home Rule intruders from the fiist seat on the fourth bench and Mr Beresford Hope, driven out by Lord Randolph Churchill, has claimed refuge, on the ground of his Privy Councillorship, on the front Opposition bench. The O'Gorman Mahon, with his eighty winters, is the Ariel of the House, and in the course of the same night finds himself at the side of Mr Parnell, cheek by jowl with Sir Stafford Northcote, or in confidential whispers with the Chief Secretary for Ireland on the Olympian heights of the Treasury bench." With regard to local members, it will be seen that Sir E. J. Reed occupies the seat immediately be. hind the Premier, while Mr L. L. Dillwyn takes the first seat on the front bench below the gang- way, on the Ministerial side. Near him sits Mr Henry Richard, while Mr Cyril Flower usually occupies one of the cross benches near the bar. Mr H. H. Vivian and Colonel Kingscote occupy the third bench behind Ministers, while Lord Ernlyn generally sits on the corresponding bench on the Opposition side. In a few days we will publish apian of the galleries of the House, showing the seats allotted to the various London and provincial journals, and the Peers', Diplomatic, Speaker's, and Stran- gers' galleries.
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Mr FINEGAN: Will you give me the exact words. The CHAIRMAN The words were not cour- teous expressions to us-to hon. members of the House-and instead of withdrawing the words beastly bellowing-" Mr FIN EG AN If in any sense the words "beastly bellowing" eould be applied personally, I shall be happy to withdraw them. The CHAIRMAN If the hon. member does not withdraw the words,! shall name him. (Cries of," Name.") Mr FINIGAN I rise to withdraw them, and to make an explanation. (Cries of "No," and "Withdraw.") I have withdrawn tbe words, but simply on your orders, sir, rather than suffer the penalty. (Renewedcries of I. Order." and "Name him.") Mr O'DONNELL: I iiQ to order now this poiut is settled on the use of the words "beastly bellowing." The CHAIRMAN I have already decided on those words. Mr O'DONNELL: I am speaking to a point of order. The CHAIRMAN The point of order is al- ready decided. Mr O'DONNELL But I have a new point of order with regard to the use of discourteona words Mr O'CONNELL once used in this House. The CHAIRMAN: I repeat that the point of order has already been settled. (Cries of "Order," and "Name him.") Mr O'DONNELL I have to speak to a point of order. if you will permit me. The CHAIRMAN I now name you, the hon. member for Dnngarvan (cries of Shame from the Home Rule benches)—SirO'Donuell, for persistently disregarding the ruling of the chair. Mr O'DONNELL I have not been allowed to speak. Sir W. HARCOURT rose, amid cries of "Shame," to move that Mr O'Donnell ba sus- pended from the service of the Committee for the remainder of the sitting. A division was then called out, and meanwhile Mr O'Donnell, sitting in his place, called out I will only be removed from this House by the constables to his immediate friends, he said "Go out and vote, and then sit on each side of me; the constables must be brought in to take me out." Shortly afterwards, and just before the question was put for tile second time, Mr O'DONNELL, sitting in his place, with his hat on, said Mr Chairman, I have not disobeyed your ruling. I was not allowed to state my point of order that you are acting grossly against the trust reposed in you in trying to silence, unfairly and unjustly, an elected member of this House, having the same rights as you under-t: e Constitu- tion. Am I to remain in the House, or am I qualified to remain in the lobbies? I dou't feel inclined to vote on a motion affecting myself, The CHAIRMAN The hon. member, if he did not wish to vote, ought to have withdrawn. Mr CALLAN When the Speaker is in the chair, will it be in order to impugn your decision as unfair. 0 No answer. The voting then took place. Mr O'Donnell going with his friends into the noes" lobby. The result of the division was as follows :—* For the motion 127 Against 27 Majority 100 The question was then put, Mr Biggar and Mr Healy trying for a few moments, in vain, to address the chair. At laat Mr BIGGAR, with his hat on, &nd seated, asked was it competent for the Committee to sus- pend member I Qaght not this Co to done ia the full House, with the Speaker in the chair ? The Speaker was then sent for, and on his arrival he was informed by the Chairmau of what had takeu place. Mr PARNELL I rise, sir, to a poiut of order. I beg to say that the Chairman has not stated to you— The SPEAKER: That is a statement I cannot accept. Mr PARNELL then put it that Mr O'Donnell had not been named as required by the rule. ir W. HARCOURT: Then I rise to order. The hon. member for the city of Cork was not in the House, and has stated that which everyone who was in the House knows is incorrect. Mr CALLAN: I rise to order. That state- ment of the right hon. gentleman is not correct. (Cries of Order.") Sir W. HARCOURT I was sitting at this table, and I heard Mr Playfair name Mr O'Donnell. Mr CALLAN I was sitting in this House, and I heard Mr Playfair, and 1 say he did not name Mr O'Dounell. The SPEAKER I have no course left but to put the question. The question was then put and challenged, and before it was aain put Mr A. O'CONNOR. speaking seated, and with his liat on, said, may I ask what means there are of instituting an appeal from the decision of the chairman. Mr CALLAN May I ask if there are any means of instituting an enquiry to testjthe veracity of the Home Secretary. Mr O'DONNELL: May I ask, sir, on a point of order, what means are open to me to prove that I did not in the slightest disregard the authority of the chair; that I was not allowed to state the point of order on which I rose and thought I was not named by Mr Play- fair from beginning to end? Will it be in order to move that these proceedings, which cannot be interfered with to-day, shall be rescinded at a future meeting of the House ? The SPEAKER No point of order can be now raised except when the division has taken T'lace. The House then divided with the following result For the motion 143 Against 32 Majority 109 Mr O'Donnell was here directed by the Speaker to withdraw, and at once did so, bowing to the Speaker as he left the House. Mr CALLAN Mr Speaker, may I now be per. mitted to move the adjournment of the House. The Speaker had left the chair and gone out of the House before Mr Callan spoke, and the hon. member resumed his seat amid general laughter. In Committee the question under discussion when the interruption arose was resumed, aud the Home Secretary having stated his willingness to insert the word wilfully after h flO acting," Mr Sexton's amendment was withdrawn, and that suggested by the Home Secretary agreed to. On the question that the clause be agreed to, the Committee divided, and the clause was carried by 181 against 30. On an amendment by Mr McCOAN to reduce the maximum penalty from M to £4. the Com- mittee divided, and the amendment was negatived by 247 against 37. Then Sir W. Harcourt accepted an amendment by Major Nolan enabling the justices to dismiss, without conviction, cases where they might be of opinion that the circumstances rendered it inexpedient to accept any punishment. The amendment was agreed to,4 Mr LEAMY moved an amendment, requiring that no Derma sentenced to imprisonment wider I the Act should be required at any time to sleep on a plank bed. Mr MITOfIELL-IIENity supported the amend. ment,as also did Mr PABNELL, the last-named hon. member pointing out that the class of persons who would be convicted under this Act was likely to be more respectable than the class of ordinary criminals, and asking the Government whether they meant to insist on subjecting such persons to the torture of sleeping on plank beds. Sir W. HARCOURT urged that there was no reason for distinguishing these offences from ordinary offenceis tried on Summary Jurisdiction. Eventually Air Leamy's amendment was with. drawn in favour of one by Mr Serjeant Simon, to the effect that the prisoners be treated as first- cl uss misdemeanants. This was objected to by the Home Secretary, and on a division was negatived by 194 against 47. Mr PARNELL moved that the Chairman report progress. Sir W. HARCOURT opposed the motion, remai king that there were only one or two important amendments left, and that they might well be disposed of in an hour. Mr SEXTON said the question of the duration of the Act would of itself occupy several hours, and besides this there were several other amend- ments as to the constitution of the courts that would occupy some time. Mr PARNELL saw no objection to going on for another hour, and withdrew his motion. Mr LEAMY then moved an amendment pro- viding that appeals against convictions should be subject to the provisions of the Petty-sessions (Ireland) Act of 1851. Progress was reported at 2.15 on Clause 5 of the Peace Preservation (Ireland) Bill. The House adjourned at 2.25.
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HOUSE OF COMMONS.—WEDNESDAY. The Speaker took the chair at 12.15. THE ARRESTS UNDER THE PRO- TECTION BILL. Mr PARNELL asked the Attorney-General for Ireland what offences the warrant disclosed under which Mr Boyton was yesterday arrested under the Protection of Person and Property (Ireland) Act, and if he would give the number of persons arrested under it to tbe present time, and their names. The ATTORNE Y-GENERAL for IRELAND said in reply he must beg to refer the hon. mem- ber to the terms of the second section of the first clause of the Act, which provided that a copy of the warrant should be delivered to the person arrested, and that the warrant should set forth the grounds for the arrest. The tourth section of the same clause further provides that a correct list of all the persons arrested should be laid before Parliament within seven days of the arrest. He had not yet seen the warrant for the arrest of Mr Boytou, but he received a letter, and had no doubt all the for- malities had been fully complied with. (Cries of Agreed, agreed.")
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THE PEACE PRESERVATION (IRELAND) BILL. MINISTERIAL ACTION. Mr GLADSTONE moved that at three o'clock all the amendments still on the paper to the Peace Preservation (Ireland) Bill should be put forth- with from the chair, without further debated The House divided. ID or the motion — 2o3 1 Against «. m M 17 | Maiorttv'— « «• — 23S Ordered accordingly. The House then resumed the cm dder.iilion of the Dill m Cn.(unittee. On Claitser 5, Mr SEXTOX moved' that: the Court of Sam- mary Jurisdiction in Dublin should cousist of two divisional magistrates, contending that questions would arise uader the Act which ought aot to be disposed of byone magistrate. Sir W. V. IlAROOUttT opposed. This was the invariable practice in England, and the Me- tropolitan mngistrates by their experience were perfectly qualified to deal with any cases likely to arisp. Mr DAWSON considered it more in the in- terests of the magistrates themselves than of the accused that more than one should adjudicate upon m-ttters whicbrwere of a political and deli- cate nature. Dr CO.MMlNd appealed to the mover not to press the amendment. Mr BIGGAR did not think it unreasonable that two of these gentlemen, who were ) aid a liberal salary, should ba expected to attend the hearing of cases under the Act. Mr LEAMY also spoke in support of the amendment, which, oa a division, was negatived by 203 votes to 23. Mr SEXTON next moved to omit the words which enabled the Court of Summary Jurisdiction to ha constituted of one resideut magistrate sittiug- alone in petty session. Sir W. HARCOURT* said the clause was framed upon the lines of existing legislation in England as w-ell as Ireland, except that it gave additional security to the accused. The amendment received the support of Mr T. P. O'Connor, but was withdrawn. Air CALLAN moved the omission of the word "resident," for the purpose of substituting "sti- pendiary." This was negatived without discussion. Mr HEALY moved that nothing in the Act should j*event the person charged, if he himself desired it, from having the option of being returned by trial before a jury. Sir W. HARCOURT did not consider that in the present state of Ireland it was possible to admit the principle of the amendment. The sus- pension of the Habeas Corpus Act h id been passed on the very ground that, in the present state of Ireland, there was no reasonable probability of getting witnesses to give evidence, or juries to convict in case3 of agrarian crime. It was true that such an option as was now proposed was given by the Act of 1375, but the state of things no .v was more analagous to that when the Fenian conspiracy was -it its height. (Several Irish members here exclaimed that the Fenian con- spiracy was in 1%7, not 1870.) He did not admit that there was no Fenian conspiracy no#. He had his own opinion about that. The objects of the present agitation were the same as those of the Fenians. Mr JUSTIN McCARTHY questioned whether the Bill would have received so much support had it been brought forward in its true character of a Bill to abolish trial by jury for five years for cer- tain offences in Ireland. Air T. P. O'CONNOR had hoped that the Home Secretary had mended liis rhetorical man- ners, but vyas disappointed that he should have availed himself of the last time permitted for discussion to dazzle the Committee with a new revelation of his Imperial policy, and of his extraordinary opinions upon Irish history. Mr SEXTON indignantly denied the statement of the Home Secretary that an Irish jury would never convict for agrarian offeuaes. Mr GILL said the Irish members were doing all they could to keep the people from joining Fenian and secret societies, and condemned the inteIUpera.te language.sed by tlie Home Secretary. Major NOLAN considered that trial by jury was necessary to protect the people from being put in prison upon unfounded accusations. Dr. COMMINS said trial by jury was invalu- able as a remedy to prevent the encroachments of those in PO\\ er on the liberties of the people. Mr DAWSON agreed that every case of real crime brought to trial lia 1 been followed by con- viction and punishment, and therefore there was not the slightest ground for refusing trial by jury. Mr FINEGAN protested against the last remnant of the liberties of the Irish people being taken away from them. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL for IRELAND pqinted out that the measure was a Summary Jurisdiction Bill, and no trial by jury was given in summary jurisdiction'cases in Ireland. Mr LEAMY urged that, aa exceptional legisla- ture was being passed, the Government ought to give exceptional protection. Mr LABOUCHERE supported the amend- ment, on the ground that the same right of appeal of a trial by jury had always beeu 'given in former Coercion Acts. Mr BlutrAR also supported the amendment. Mr PARNELL sara the Government were by a side stroke attempting to do away with trial by jury for political offences in Ireland, and he regretted that a so-called Liberal Government should have allowed itself to become the sub- missive and subservient tool of the Irish land- lords. The hon. member continued his observa- tions till three o'clock, when lie was interrupted by the Chairman.
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PUTTING THE AMENDMENT AND NEW CLAUSES FROM THE CHAIR. The CHAIRMAN then proceeded, in accor- dance with the order of the House, to put the amendments and new clauses remaining on the notice paper. There were then, besides Mr Healey's proviso, 11 amendments and six new clauses undisposed of. The division on Mr Healey's amendment resulted in its defeat by 273 votes to 35. There were two other amendments to the clause, the one in the name of Mr Sexton, and the other of Mr Corbett, but both were ruled out of order, and a division was taken upon the clause,for which 261 voted against 35. The next amendment put was a proposal from Mr SEXTON to oaiit any sword, cutlass, pike, and bayonet, or any part of any arma from the definitions of arms given by Clause 6. A division was challenged, and the amendment was rejected by 278 to 30. Mr HEALY'S ameudment, "That parts of the weapons should not be inoluded if it could be • shown that they were unserviceable and useless," was lost by 260 to 34. Another amendment by Mr HEALY to confine the definition of ammunition to bullets and gun- powder, so as to exclude nitro-glycerine, dyna- mite. guncotton, and every other explosive sub- stance, whether fitted for use with any arms or otherwise, was rejected by 261 to 30. The question that Clause 6 stand part of the Bill was resolved in the affirmative by 254 to 37. Clause 7, which contains only the short title, was also the occasion of a division, and the numbers were For the clause, 252; against it, 32. The next division was on Mr Serjeant Simon's proposal that the Act should continue in force only till the 30th of September,1882, instead of the 30th of June, 1886, as provided by the 8th Clause. This was rejected by 222 to 58. Clause 8 was ordered to stand part of the Bill by 244 to 41. Mr A. M. Sullivan's proposed new "clause, directing that where a farmer was refused a license to carry arms, the police should be empowered to destroy game, hawks and other birds, was declared to be beyoud the scope of the Bill. A new clause, in the name of Mr Callan, requiring a register of lioense to be kept and filed, was put to the vote and lost by 256 to 35. All the remaining new clause3 011 ths paper were ruled out of order, as raising questions already decided on as outside the scope of the Bill, On the question that the Chairman report the Bill as amended to the House, Mr PARNELL rose, amidst considerable inter- ruption and calls to older, to address the Com- mittee on the motion, and insisted upon his right, as the motion was not within the order. The CHAIRMAN intimated that on the in. structions of the House he should put every ques- tion forthwith, Mr CALLAN rose to order, and pointed out that the resolution passed at the commencement of the sitting referred only to amendments and new clauses. The CHAIRMAN: The hon. member will have an opportunity of asking the Speaker from the chair, the meaning of the rule. As he under- stood, the spirit of the rule was-but he should put the question forthwith. Mr CALLAN again rose, and was received with loud cries of "order," and" chair," and on the Chairman rising, he resumed his seat. The question was then put, and the question for reporting the Bill was'carried by 267 to 31. On the question that the Chairman leave the chair, Mr CALLAN moved that progress should be reported, so that the Speaker might be appealed to with regard to the proper interpretation of the urgency rules. The CHAIRMAN: The hon. gentleman will have all opportunity of consulting the Speaker when he returns to the chair, but by the rules all motions are barred, except the two formal motions concluding the proceedings of the Committee. The Committee then divided, and there voted, 1 Ayes 277 Noes 22 Majority 255 M. Majority 255 The Chairman accordingly left the chair, and on the Speaker's return, Mr CALLAN appealed to him for his ruling upon the question raised in Committee with regard to the right to raise a discussion on the question of reporting the Bill. The SPEAKER had no hesitation in saying that the Chairman had correctly interpreted the spirit of the rule. The report was fixed for to-morrow. The remaining business being throughout objected to by Irish members could not be taken. Mr W, E. FORSTER gave notice that Mr Gladstone would move to-morrow at half-past four, That on the consideration of the Peace Preser- vation (Ireland) Bill, as amended, any clauses or amendments remaining on the notice paper at 10 o'clock should be put to the House forth v. ith." The House rose at five minutes to six o'clock.
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HEWPOCT. TOWN COUNCIL. The Mayor (Mr J. Jl. J;icob) presided at the monthly meetincr of th* Newport Town Council, held on W ednesday, when there were also present Alderman C. Lyne, J. Murphy, H. J. Davis, D. Barrhy, and W. Jones; Councillors H. A. f Hnzzey, W. West, T. Jones, Jun., W. Oliver, A. Blake, J. Mad dock, J. R. Richards, J. Moses, E. Griffiths, IL Faulkner, O. Goss, J. W..Jones, H. P. Bolt, H. Evans, J. Gibbs, '1'. Beyiion, J. W. Jones, G. Hoskius, and D, A. Vaushan. Tue-miuutes of the previous meeting were read and confirmed. PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE. The report of the Public Works Committee was adopted, npon the motion of Alderman LYNE, it -beirig resolved that the deputy town clerk be instructed to call the attention of the Tredegar Wharf Comp-iny to the fact of their not having completed their agreement with regard to Inker- man-street, and to inform the'n that in the event of their not doing so, the Council will find it necessary to compel the fulfilment of the agree- ment. THE CEMETERY OFFICES. The report of the Cemetery Committee showing that the grounds had been improved by the planting of trees and shrubs, at a cost of E15 lis Grl, and that the general work had pro- gressed satisfactorily, was adopted, upon the motion of Alderman DAVIS. Councillor GRIFFITHS subsequently moved, in accordance with previous notice, "That the cemetery olfices, situated on Stow Hill, be removed to the Town Hall." He did this on the grouna that the present situation of the offices was inconvenient to most people having business there, and he believed that, in suggesting ics removal, he was expressing the opinion of the whole town in the matter. He proposed also that a committee be appointed to consider the Question. Councillor T. JONES, jlln" seconded the motion, because he considered it highly desirable tha.t the offices of the Corporation sho'ild be concentrated in the centre of the to rn, if possible, and this would give an opportunity of deciding whether it could be done. Alderman DAVIS observed th it there was no doubt that it wouill be more convenient to have the offices at the Town Hall, but he reminded the Corporation that they had not even now the office accommodation they required there. He there- fore proposed, seconded b Alderman Harrhy, a negative amendment. After some further discussion as to the ex- pediency of the suggestion, it was resolved, upon the motion of Alderman JONES, seconded by Councillor IIosxiN3, to refer the whole matter to the Public Works Committee, Councillor GRU'- FITHS concurring in this. CONTAGIOUS DISEASES (ANIMALS) COMMITTEE. Councillor T, BEYNON moved the adoption of the report of this committee, in which the arrangement of the Tre gar Wharf Committee for a temporary license under the Contagious Diseases (Aiiinals) Act was explained. and it was stated that the cow-sheds of Air John Everett, at Pilgwenliy, which were closed some time back in consequence of an outbreak of pleuro-pneuinonia, had now been declared free of that disease. Councillor RICHARDS seconded to adoption of the report, which was agreed to without com- ment. PARLIAMENTARY coiimirrBo.THE PK'JI'O-E.'I NEW STREET. The MATOB, in moving the adoption of the re- p-ytof the Parliamentary and Improvement Act Committee, referred to the fact that he had re- ceived two memorials relative to the construction of the proposed nfiw street between the centre of the town and Dock-street; one of them from per. sons opposed to the scheme, and the other from persons in favour of it. He went on to say that, as the matter appeared to excite considerable pub- lic interest, he had decided to convene a public meeting of the inhabitants' upon the subject, to he held this week at the Albert-hall. He had selected that place for holding the meeting be- cause he wished it to be a fully representative one, and the room at the Town-hall might not be sufficiently large for the purpose. (Hear, t hear.) The Parliamentary Committee would also meet oil Wednesday to consider the question, and he expected that a report would then be drawn up, which he should be enabled to lay before the public meeting, showing the probable cost of the construction of the street. The Mayor also formally moved that the assign- ments between the Corporation and Messrs Walters and Arnold, Mr S. T. Evans, and Mr John Young, in regard to the leasehold interest in the property acquired for the High-street widen- ing, be confirmed and sealed, and that the con- tract with Mr J. Francis, for carrying out iia. provement works in Doa-road, be agreed to. These motions were seconded by Councillor Gibbs, and carried uuanimously. PARK-SQUARE PRIVATE IMPROVEMENT-RATE DISPUTE. A notice appearing upon the agenda paper To consider the question of recovering the im- provement expenses from the trustees of the enclosure in Park-square," the Mayor explained that the subject was brought up again in conse- quence of the undertaking given to the inhabitants of the locality, who had recently represented the rate to be a hardship upon them, that their application to he relieved from the responsibility should be further considered. —The Deputy Town Clerk quoted from the minutes of the Council, showing that the trustees of the enclosure had been held liable, and that the committee who had the matter in hand had recommended that they be proceeded against for recovery of the cost of the improvements in paving the square, amounting to k327 9s 3d.—Coun- cillor Goss proposed that the matter be referred to the finance committee to be dealt with. Councillor Vaughan urged that the Council should deal with it generally, and show the courage of their opinious. (Hear, lieir.)-Alderinaii Dyne agreed with Mr Vaughan, aud held that as the com- mittee saw no extenuating Circumstance why tiie ordinary course should not be pursued, the Council should support them.—The Deputy-Town Clerk poiuted out that it had been subsequently resolved that proceedings for resovery of the amount be delayed until the matter was further considered, provided the interests of the Council were not prejudiced.—Alderman Davies said he believed there was no doubt that they could com- pel these people to pay for the improvement, but he thought that there had been a great deal of unnecessary expense in putting pavement round two sides of the enclosure, where it was never wanted. No doubt the trustees (Messrs Woollett and Lewis) were primarily liable for payment, but he thought the Council would agree that it would be rather hard to call upon them to pay the whole amount, when they had no further interest in the improvement than anyone else in the town. The square was left as an open space for the benefit of the town, and it would be very unsatisfac- tory if it reverted to the owners, and were built upon, as originally intended. He held therefore that these gentlemen should be relieved of the full responsibility in some way, and lie considered that, without detriment to the rate. payers of the town, the Corporation might well agree to pay half the cost. leaving the trustees to pay the remainder. He moved that this be done. —Alderman Lyne suggested that the landlord might be iuduced to pay a third.—Alderman Davies did not see why the landlord should pay anything. -Alderman Murphy, in seconding the motion by Alderman Davies, contended that as these gentlemen had accepted the responsibility of the trusteeship they ought not t:> object to this arrangement. — Councillor Griffiths inquired whether the Corporation would be justified, in view of its duty to the ratepayers, in allowing half the costs of the improvement.—The Deputy Town Clerk replied that he did not think they would be strictly right in doinj so. but he did not think any objection would be raised. They had not always kept to the stric: rule—(laughter)— in respect to the allowance for broken glass at the election times for instance. (Sear, hear.) Alder- man Lyne expressed his opinion that if the matter was properly represented to Lord Tredegar, as landlord, he would be disposed to assist in defray- ing the expense of improving the property. He, therefore, moved. as an amendment, that the ex- pense be divided into thirds with the object of relieving the Corporation as well as the trustees, and that the Corporttion agree to pay one-third, leaving the other two-thirds to be paid by the trustees and the landlord. Councillor Gosa seconded the amendment, as lie considered the pavement round the square a great improvement, and did not see why the land- lord should object to contribute to the expense. In the course of further discussion as to the position of the trustees with the ratepayers, Councillor MOSES said he considered that this was a very hard case for the trustees, who, no doubt, deserved their sympathy, bat I e main- tained that the corporation were not justified, either morally or legally, in paying a penny of the cost, Councillor HosKlNd said that, as a resident of the square, he considered it had been as much improved by this paving as any other part of the town, and that it was unfair of those who bene- fited by it to object to pay for it. Upon being put to the vote, the amendment was lost. Councillor JOHN MOSES then moved, as another amtn lment, "That the deputy town clerk be in- structed to recover the money from tho trustees." Councillor J. W. JONES seconded, being strongly of opinion that the corporation ought not to pay any of it. This amendment was carried by 12 votes to 10 for the original motion by Alderman Davis, which was consequently lost. A RKCORD OF ELOQUENCE. There was no further business before the council, but Alderman MURPSX rose at the close of the sitting, and said I beg to give notice that at the next meeting of the council I shall move that the deputy town clerk be instructed to get a ver- batim report taken of the meetings of the council, and that he include the same in the minutes of the corporation." (Great laughter.) The council then separated amid general hilarity at this suggestion.
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P)!lNW LUCIEN JiONAPAUTE AND THE NATIONAL EISTEDDFOD. Mr Rhys T. Williams having written to His Imperial Highness, asking him to become a vice- president of the National Eisteddfod, has received the following reply ;— 7th March, 18S1. My dear Sir,—In answer to your letter of the 19th of the past mouth, I can only say that I shall consider myself very much honoured by the title of one of your vice-presidents. I beg to convey my best thanks to the committee of the National Eisteddfod of Wales, while I remain, yours very truly, L. L. BONAPARTE.'1
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-:s THE SHOCKING CASlToFciilLtf BUKNISG ATJiilFJlNii'i. ) .VERDICT OF MANSLAUGHTER, I AGAINST ril F, MOTHJSK. On iMondiiy tlie adjenrned inquest 4 tho Puddler's Arms Inn, Jthymnev, b> lWe the district coroner (Mr W. H. brewer) and a ivsp^tu able jury, of whom ti;3 lpv. George Owen %VGO foreman, touching thedeath of Ei lettiot- who died from injuries received from burning the 17th February, :)< reported in alII" columns.i The first witness callod u as Ann Moore, wiio s:td I am the wife of Enoch) u Moo;e, and live at the "Victoria Inn. Mrs M Griffiths, who is the mother of the deceased child, came to my house tv about G.10 p.m. on the even- illg of Thursday. February 17th. My daughter callie and told me t¡at Mrs Griffiths was goi, to lie do A n on one of iie benches in the small t p-< room. I immediat-ly went there, and found s .ej was diuak. I ther at once ordered her or rather! put her out of tie house altogether..She wa»i drunk. I di\l noi see her again until now I seti ttermcmtony. By P.S. Uicharls In what position was shaj when you saw het? Witness: She vas leaning her hand all tliel bench when I sav her. She has been in the habifci of drinking at off house. Have seen her drunk' many times s'nis a widow. i Mary Griffiths aged seven years, the daughter -of the woman, wis next called, when the Cot oner) remarked that It could not swear the child as shet was too youiur,but any questions the jury might! like to ask her ;hey were at liberty to do so. P.S. Richards: She may put in the inissinglinki in the evidence,or she may make a statement. The Coroner She can make a statement she likes. The child ssd: Ou the night my sister waa -J burnt my motier came into the house, and I ga»•«> fier the cilil,l. She I..id on the floor %,iti, Li, in her arms btfore the tire. I then" en t out. The Coroner I will not take any further evi- dence fiom the child-she is too young. [ The next wi-ness was Isaac G. iflitiis, no-ed 1tI years, who said I am the son of Jane Griffiths, and am noiv with my sister at the Tredegar Unio« Workhouse. ] remember the evening of Febrlla 17th liuding niy little sister on the ground closa to the firegratf. S!ie was quite under the grate. The top part f her arm and her dress v ere on fire., I irnme,Hatel?' took np the child a'Hi ran with it towards a luge tub of water under the tap, I wetted my hand and rubbed it, on ihe burning; clothes and jut the fire out. Did not notice thafci one arm waJ nearly burnt off. My mother waa. lying on the floor fat asleep. She wa.s drullk; I called to hsr, and she got up and sat all a chaii^1 Mrs lLrrettand several other women then c-, tie in. Gweulliau Hughes said: 1 aui the wife of" Edwin Hnhes, and live at No. 43, liowles- square. 0» the night of the 17th of last mont'i' my bov caner to me and stated that Jaue Griffith^ little child iad been burnt. I at once ran in, and, found the c'eceased in the hands of the last u itnesat,' There was no light in the house, and it was very; dark. I tl;en rau to a neighbour's house and got a light, and I found Jane Griffiths lying on tbe hearth asleep in front of the firr. My screaming attracted the attention of Mrs Barrett and several other ueighbours. Mrs Banett, tne last-named witness, and myself raised Jlle Griffiths up from the floor, and she! then s.(± on a stool, took tiie child from tiie boy.i and ga»e it the breast. Tiie doctor came dressed the wounds. 1 did not see the clothes oa| fire, jjlrs Griffiths was quite stupid from thai effects of drink when we lifted her up. When slif t awoke she asked twice "What is the matlerri We then told her vvh »t had happened, and sb»f began to cry. I have known tier about 10 year*' She )its been a widow about 18 months Mary Ann Barrett gave sin.il-n- evidence to that of the last At this stage the inquest was aujonrncd, and. eft Monday tbe- inquiry was again resume 1, when u.e following evidence was. taken Pr. T. Hall Redwood said I am the medical officer to the Rhymney Iron Company, Limited. The case was first reported to me by my assistant. Air 1. J. O'Douneli, somewhere about sitte o'ekj^b on the evening of February 17th. I did not see tiie child 1-hat njht, as its vrotjnds had been dressed, but saw aitti examined it at 12.30 next day, wheu I found it suffering from the following burns, viz. flie right hand and fore anu we completely charred, almost up to the elbow there u as a burn of about two inches ia diameter pa tfefl) front of the upper part of the arm, a3t another about the same size on the front ef\ the shoulder, and running under the arm pi*, ov{ the same ou the outside of the. upper part of; the left arm there was a burn two inches by' one inch in size, and at the top of the 8 shoulder another about the etze. of a tJemty, an j from this another running up to the left ear, whick was severely burnt inside and out, together with the whole of the left side of the head, and a small piece, the size of a shilb ling. in the back of the head. The whole of tht face, including the right cheek, left lower jaw, and cheeks, nose, upper eyelids, and forehead. were also ournt, all the burns, with the exception of those on the forehead, eyelids, face, and side of the head, were of the third or fourtll degrees of severity, that is, had gone either partly; or completely through be skin. There as no burn oil the right side of the head, nor 011 the body or legs, and the eyes had escaped. The burns were probably produced by the child fait", ing or rolling into the hot ashe,3 under the Kratw on its face and shoulders, with its right hand aulti arm thrown forward and thrust into tlie ashes, 1 and then turning on the left side of the head, oa,' which ir. was probably lying when found by thai bov. By tile Jury I don't know whether the e was, a fender there or not. Morris Richards I am a police-sergeant, stap tioned at Rhymney. About 8 p.m. on February 1/ th, 1881, I went to No. 5, Rowles-square, tlis house of the prisoner, Jane Griffiths. I found tW prisoner nursing the infant child, which had been! very badly burnt. I sent for medical attendance^! I asked Jane Griffiths, tiie prisoner, how it hap» peued. She said that she and the child had laid! down in front of the fire; that she did not knowi how the child got burnt. She was awoke by tho, neighbours, and found the child in Isaac's aria* (meaning her son), and that whenever she took drink it always sent her to sleep. The prisoner appeared then to be in a state of semi.dl'unkenness.' At about 2.30 p.m. ou Thursday, February 24th^ I apprehended Jane Griffiths at her house, and charged her with causing the death of her infant child Eleanor, through culpable neglect. She re- plied I would not have it done for the world had I known it. On February 14th I went to the houae- The Coroner As short as you can, sergeant. Witness continuing I saw the prisoner and three or four of her children (through the window) lying in front of the fire on the ground floor their own clothes they had no bed. Prisoner What about the bed ? Let us have' the truth it is bad enough already. Witness continuing The deceased was also on the ground between the prisoner and the fiwj This was about 12.40 as near as possible. I auohe to the prisoner through the window, but did aot go into the house. I have cautioned her several times that if anything was to hapren to any of lMV children I would give evidence against her. By the Coconer She is a drunken charaoUn and neglects her children. This was the whole of the evidence, and the Coroner addressed the jury at considerable length, in the course of which ho stated that the oaty, point for the jury to decide was whether thill' woman was guilty of culpable neglect of b. children. If they brought tit. against her it would be manslaughter '1'h. WHO cleared, and after 15 minuted deliberation, the jury returned a verdict of "Maax slaughter" against the prisoner Jaue Griffith*. At the Clerk's Chambers, Tredegar, on Tuesday, Jane Griffiths, widov, committed under lite coroner's warrant for the manslaughter of bee female child, named Eleanor Griffiths, aged efcht months, was brought up in custody by P.8 Morris Richards, before Mr G. A. Brown, when the evi- deuce given before the coroner on Monday was repeated. It will be remembered that the wotntt% Jane Griffiths, was addicted to habits of intern- perance, and one fatal night, while engaged nursing the child, she allowed it to get tinder the grate, where it received such burns as resulted in depth soon after. The culpable negligence of the mother having been clearly proved, the accused was fully committed for trial at the assizes.
HliAVY FINE FOR ILLEGAL REMOVAL…
HliAVY FINE FOR ILLEGAL REMOVAL OF PIGS AT ABEItDARE. At the Aberdare police-court, on Tuesday- before Messrs J. Bishop (stipendiary), R. II. RityL D. E. Williams, and R. Edwards—a pig dealer oi Treorky, named Win. J ones, was summoued under the new orders with illegally removing a herd 01 pigs. Inspector Thorney stated that on the 23c« of February defendant came to liim and stated that he had some cattle in trucks at the railway station which he wished to remove. The officer found that he had two cows and 17 store pigsw which he had bought in Pembrokeshire, ana which defendant said lie ^nted to take to Treorky. The cows were for slaughter. Inspector Thorney gave him a licence to' have the cow* slaughtered at Aberdare, but said that he could give no authority with respect to the pigs, as they were for store. Defendant then said he kacl nothing to do but to take the herd to Treorky, and notwithstanding lie was told that he must oi so at his own risk, he did so, and drove them over the mountain. Witness saw him take the pip from the station. Defendant pleaded that he did not know anything about the new law, and said that after he li-id brought the pigs to Aberdare he had nowhere to take them. He had been in the habit of trucking to Hirwain, but as he hltl failed to take the pigs out there, they were sent « n to Aberdare. He had plenty of food for them at home.—The Stipendiary said the defendant might have been ignorant of the new law, but ignoraneo. was no excuse._ Nlr lthys: Y Oll have rendered c yourself liable to fines amounting to 297 ant: That is more, than the pigs are wortli.-fhe Stipendiary, after considerable consultation, told the defendant he had broken the law, and pretty wilfully done so. First of all he had been refused permission to remove the pigs by the police Ask Hirwainy; lIe had seen Mr Williams and told him a false tele, and then after seeing the Inspector at Aberdtffe, he had set the law at defiauce, and walke/i the nigs through tlie country, where, it tlieyi.izid any disease, they might have spread it. fle,Y,ad done wrong as wilfully as any man could do/,t.—The bench thought he was not only a very obstinate man, but wilfully obstinate, and tie w'ouid rather look after his own picket than the i».t'elfaie of other people. What was the use of tbo r law, if such men as defendant were not to bo stopped ? If he could not be stopped by the police, he must be stopped by some sufficient penalty being put upon him. He would be fineJ **u costs.
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