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THE CARDIFF SEWERS.
THE CARDIFF SEWERS. MR. WAKING'S REPORT. We subjoin an abstract of the report presented by the Town Surveyor to the Board of Health on Friday:— THE OUTFALL. The outfall of the whole system of your sewers has been fixed at the eastern extremity of your district; in tne first place, as being the most distant point from any existing or probable buildings and in the second, as being to leeward of prevalent winds and it appears that of the numerous plans submitted in 1853. those only which proposed an eastern out- fall met with the approval of the General Board of Health. The level of the outfall is fixed at high water of neap tides, and for the adoption of what seems rather a high level for the locality, Mr. Hawkshaw assigns the following reasons. In his report of August, 1853, Mr. Hawkshaw says:—"Per- haps, looking forward to an extension of the town eastward, beyond the present boundary of the borough, may be consi- dered at present an unnecessary caution but Cardiff is growing with almost unprecedented rapidity, and may be looked upon as an exceptional case. I have not, therefore," overlooked this possibility, and it had some influence in lead- ing me to fix the level of the outfall so high as high water of tleap tides, by doing which you will have the power of ex- tending the sewer at the same gradient at a future period to an outfall still more eastward." Of what importance this ex- tension eastward is, or may shortly become, the Parliamentary proceedings of recent sessions relative to additional docks and railways are a sufficient indication. THE GRADIENTS. The level of the outfall being decided, the gradients or rates of inclination at which the sewers can be constructed, must be governed by the level of the basement floors, as also by the levels of any canals, waterways, or sunk roads, which it may be necessary to pass under, and it follows that the lower these natural obstacles are at the upper part of the svstem. the less fall is available for the sewers, and the less fall the slower the currents. In the North West District, there are four of these points which are fixed, and from which there could be no deviation, viz.:—the dock feeder at Her- bert-street. and at Bute-terrace, the Glamorganshire Canal at St. Marv-street, and the Junction Dock (for the Bute-town sewers) near Bute-street bridge. The fact of the small fall obtainable between the invert of a sewer passing under these points and that of the outfall, rendering artificial aid neces. sary to keep the sewers clear of deposit, and water for the purpose being apparently available at Broad-street, led to the whole of the sewers in Mr. Hawkshaw's upper district being laid at such levels as to admit a current of water being di- rected through every sewer alternately from the point named. This arrangement, though forming a very complete, and in most respects a very satisfactory system, involves in three or four streets very flat gradients, and these streets being at the same time rather out of direct line of flushing, thedifiiculty of keeping the inverts clear of deposit, without manual labour, is considerable, and shall be again reverted to. With the ex- ceptions already alluded to, the flushing in conjunction with the flow of sewage water answers the purpose intended of keeping the sewers clean of sewage matter and deposit, and the working appliances are simple and inexpensive. THE MAIN SEWERS. Commencing from the outfall, the first trunk sewer, 6ft.Oin. high, and 4ft. Oin. wide at springing, runs due north in a straight line a distance of 1572 yards, with a short turn west to Tyndall-street, at the Old Long Dyke road, where it receives the two main sewers of Tyndall-street and Davis-street. From this junction, Tyndall-street sewer, 4ft. Oin. by 2ft. 9in., runs westward 755 yards, to west end of Herbert-street, at Bute-street, receiving the new southern main sewer from Bute-town, and an upper district main, from Bute-street northward. From this point, a sewer of 3f. Oin. by 2ft. 6in. reaches to the east end of Charlotte-street, receiving from all sewers west of Love-lane, and from Chailes-street to St. Mary- street and Temperance-town. This sewer is continued 3ft. Oin. high up Charlotte-street under the Glamorganshire Canal at St. Mary-street, and through Angel-street up to the Cardiff Arms, at Broad-street, where the flushing water is received. The rises and rates of inclination of this sewer vary from 4ft. lin. to 16ft. per mile. This line of sewer is practically free from deposit. The second main sewer, 4ft. Oin. by 2ft. 9in., runs from east end of Tyndall-street directly north to Newport-road, near the Infirmary,'turning west from that point, with 3ft. Oin. by 2ft. Oin., up Crockherbtown, under the Bute Dock Feeder and Glamorganshire Canal, and joining sewer No 1 at Angel-street. At the turn near the Infirmary, this sewer re- ceives all sewage from Tredegarville and part of Plucca-lane and in Davis-street, at Kite-street, the sewage from Augusta- street flows in. In this sewer no practical depost exists from point of junction with the main to the Taff Vale Railway Sta- ion, whence to Park-place, sand deposit constantly accrues, and on which account the additional side entrance between the railway bridges was constructed eight years ago. This deposit consists of sand and gravel, of which a considerable amount is brought in from the channels of Park-place, of which 1100 feet remain unformed, and also from the unfi- nished district of Windsor-place. The inclinations of this sewer are from 8lft to 16ift. per mile. z A third main sewer, 3ft. by 2ft., runs from Davis-street (No. 2) sewer, through Victoria and Adam-streets, under Dock Feeder at Bute-terrace, and up David-street and Charles-street, beir g connected with Crockherbtown sewer at the north end of Charles-street. The gradients are 4ft. Sin. to 7ft. 7in. per mile. Into these three main sewers all branch sewers from the intermediate streets, and all sewers lying northward of the Docks are discharged, the dimensions of branch sewers being 3ft. Oin. by 2f. Oin., and the gradients vary from 14 feet per mile to 5 feet per mile, according to locality. The Bute-town main sewer of the new system discharges into the main sewer first described, at Herbert-street, com- prising a brick sewer, 3f. Sin. by 2ft. tiin., up to Loudoua- square and from that point to the sea, at Penarth-terrace, near the Old Sea Lock, of 3ft. Oin. by 2f. Oin,, Penarth-ter- race being the commencement of the sewer, a connection being made with the sea at a level which allows the admis- sion of flushing tidal water at high water of e(luinoctial tides. For some time after this sewer was constructed, it was the practice to flush from this point; but with the increase of drainage area it became necessary to abandon the system, from want of storage room during high water. No sub- stitute has yet been provided, and the mode of dealing i with the question depends on the course the 'Board may take in reference to a storage reservoir. If a reservoir is constructed, the former mode of flushing this sewer may be reverted to, with sufficient frequency to keep the sewer clear, and if matters remain in their present position, a flushing tank should be constructed at Penarth-terrace for that pur- pose. The gradients of this sewer are from 3ft. 2in. to 4ft. lOin. per mile. In this sewer a deposit of sand exists between the Junction Dock and Loudoun-square, varying from nine to six inches on the invert, and southward of Loudoun- sqaare of about 3 inches. This main sewer receives the drainage of all streets and houses north of Patrick-street, with the exception of basements in Bute-road which are at a lower level; also the flow from Mount Stuart-square and the southern district, west of Adelaide-street. The Bute-town branch sewers, north of Loudoun-square, are flushed from a tank supplied from the Water Company's mains in the square, and are as a rule free from deposit except at their junctions with the main sewer, the body of water in which checks the flow of the lateral sewers at the point of delivery, and occasions accumulations which it is necessary to scrape into the main sewer, and wash away by flushing about twice a year. The Canal-parade branch par- cularly, and these branches generally, are in a much less offensive state than was the case five years ago. The sewers comprised in the scheme of 1858, so far as it has been carried out, are from their locality, debarred from the advantage of the general system of flushing; and those lying in the Adamsdown, and Tredegarville, and Plucca-lane district, and about Guildford and Edward-streets, are at such levels and inclinations as will probably-render artificial aid permanently unnecessary. The ruling gradients are, in Splotlands, 291t. and 2lft. per mile; in Tredegarville, 29ft. and 53ft. per mile. If at any time flushing should be re- quired, the system is so arranged as to admit of its easy application. The Temperance-town district forms part of the 1858 scheme, and frcm its low level flushing is necessary, and is occasionally used at inlets provided for that purpose. Main sewers fall at the rate of Oft. per mile, lateral branches, 14 feet to 40 feet per mile; some of these branches being short and of good gradients, were constructed of smaller sized culverts (2ft. 3in. by 1ft. 9in.), but although they do work with a little extra attention, their inaccessibly is a great inconvenience. On completion of sewers now in pro- gress, in this district, it will be advisable to construct a flush- ing tank at the west end of Park. street, which may be sup. plied from the river at equinoctial springs, and during high freshets. The main sewer of the district is now in course of extension from Havelock-street to Cowbridge-road. The size of sewers is such as to admit the passage of a man through them, and the junctions and side entrances are so arranged as to afford all practicable facilities for the pur- pose. Street surface drainage is effected through six-inch glazed pipes, and a variety of guiiy gratings, principally Lowe's patent cast iron box traps and a dip trap with brick pit, which, with care on part of the scavengers, is, I think, the best we have now in use. House drainage has been constructed chiefly of glazed earthenware pipes, varying in size from 4 inches to 12 inches diameter, and a few half-brick barrei drains; the practice of combining a number of houses in one large pipe or drain militates against the free passage of sewage current at the point of delivery of the drain. SAND AND GRAVEL TEPOSIT. This deposit consists principally of aand from the back yards of houses, particularly in the pourer class of cottages and crowded localities, and comprises also strong gravel, large stones, brick-bats, ginger-beer bottles, and other extra- ordinary deposits which can only be thread into the house drain pipes by taking up the trapped grids, which is stated to be a rather common custom. In a sluggish cuirent through some of the branches which do not admit of a very direct course for the flushing water, this sand and gravel gathers gradually, and when the sewage current is entirely stopped by back sewage during the time of high water, the deposit accrues, and becomes so firmly settled, as to render it impossible to move it by water alone under the present arrangements for flushing. Ttib occurs in the following, in which manual labour is necessary f"r removing the de. posit abojt once a quarter, viz :—Stanley-street, (which has just beeti cleared), Love-lane, (cleared two months ago), east end of Bridge-street, (now being done), Ellen-street, North William-street, and Thomas-street, (now requiring attention.) In Love-lane an error in construction of the in. vert aggravates the evil, and it would be most satisfactory to have that corrected. The chief differences in the extent of deposit occur in (1.) Bute-street, where the sand deposit was in i860, two inches; in 1863. three inches and 1866, five inches; a depth taken in 18i2 giving four inches; this wouid give an increase of three inches from 1860. or one inch from 1862. (2.) Bute-terrace, West-end at the junction with Bute- street in I860, nothing; 18U3, six inches; and in 1866, five inches; a depth in 1862 giving seven inches, shewing in this sewer which serves the district between Frederick-street and Charles-street, a decrease during the last four years. (3.) Ivor-street, near the east end of Newtown, shewing in 1860, eight inches of sewage matter; in 1863, seven inches of sand; and in 1866, six inches of sand; an intermediate depth in 1861 giving nine inches of sand, thus showing a de- crease from 1861 of three inches, or a clearance of the 8in. of stagnant sewage matter of 1860 with a substitution of 6in. sand. (4.) In the same vicinity is the Kite-street outfall from Adamsdown, shewing an apparent increase of four inches sand, which is in reality, a substitution of that item for eight inches of sewage matter in 1860, while in 1861, eight inches sand is stated, shewing a decrease of four inches in the five years. (5.) Pendoylan-street, on the south side of South Wales Railway in Newtown, shews a total accretion of four inches depth, from 1860 to 1863, the same being maintained to the present time: the remaining streets in this small district known as California being in a manner locked by the height of water in the main sewer immediately adjoining, have no chance of acquiring sufficient current to carry off sand and gravel deposits, a depth of thirteen inches sand and sewage matter with an inch of water flowing over and with it, being the general state of the lower end of these streets. THE REMEDY. In main sewer No. 2, in Crockherbtown, I recommend the construction of a side entrance near the crossing of the Dock Feeder, with a sunk catch pit to form an artificial fall for the sand, and for convenience of removal. A catch pit at the grids in Park-place would be of service, and if my re- commendation of four years ago to construct proper surface channel? up this street were adopted, the evil complained of would be very much lessened. The side entrance would be of use also for more convenient inspection of the iron pipes under the feeder. fn the streets lying between Nelson-terrace and Bute terrace, I recommend the construction of flushing valves at the south end of Charles-street and Mary Ann-street and Love-lane, by which the flushing stream may be backed up to increase the head and velocity. The removal of sand from the upper part of the town has been much less general since the practice of flushing from the Dock Feeder overflow has been in use. The California district in Newtown between the South Wales Railway and Tyndall-street, is more difficult to deal with from its proximity to the main sewer with which the branches join on a level invert, and which, in October and on the 16th of the present month during a strong frost, passed at neap tides and at low water of spring tides, 16 inches of water. For some reason, which was, no doubt valid at the time, probably for the purpose of keeping the outfall level as high as practicable, the delivery of the branch sewers into the mains, is in all cases at the level of the invert. This arrangement admits of the branch sewers being kept at a greater depth below cellars, but it has the greater disadvant- age as I consider of necessitating a much more rapid current in the main sewer to maintain an effective discharge from the branches. Under existing circumstances, I do not see any very satisfactory remedy for this inconvenience, but I think the formation of a catchpit at the west end of Ellen- street, into which the sand deposit could be washed from a flushing sluice to be fixed at Pendoylon-street, would have as good an effect as any means at present available. If at any future time the main sewer No. 1 should be continued east- ward from Tyndall-street, I think it would be advisable to take off the arch through Tyndall-street and lower the in. vert fifteen inches or thereabouts, making the diverted portion proportionately lower. This would increcse the current of the Bate-town main sewer also, and benefit the branches. The deposit in Bute-town is chiefly in the main sewer, between Sophia-street and the Junction Dock, and in the junctions of Sophia-street and South Church-street, and pro- bably the junction of Maria-street. A side entrance and catch pit at Brewery-street, near the junction Dock, would facilitate the removal of this deposit, which with a little extra flushing would be kept under with little trouble. It will probably be necessary to construct a flushing tank at Penarth terrace, to be supplied by the Water Works Com- pany, in substitution of the tidal flushing formerly used for Eleanor-street, Dudley-street, and Mount Stuart-square sewers. THE FLOODING OF CELLARS. The next and greatest point of consideration is the amount of flow of sewage and water to the sewers, and the amount of space provided for its reception, and the facilities of discharge. Under ordinary circumstances of calm weather, the outfall doors are, by repeated observations, found to be closed from 6'1 to 4 hours at all tides, giving 26 feet on the East Dock sill, and this was the case on thirty-nine days during August and September last, and will be the case on two hundred and twenty-four days during the current year. The constant quantity ofwater passing reduces by so mueh the cubic area of sewers available for rainfall passing to the sewers during, or immediately preceding the rise of tide, and the limit of their capacity is further fixed by the levels at which basements are built, and at which sewage water will flow into those basements. Then come the extent and period ofrainhits. Now at the moment the lowest of the three tidal doors is closed, the flow of sewage is stopped, and the quantity begins to accumulate. I have ascertained by measurement of each sewer, that the amount of available space for storage at this time of stoppage which can be used up to the level of basements in Loudoun square, they being at a higher level, and basements in Loudoun square, they being at a higher level, and n.ore favourably situated than cellars and kitchens in New. town, is in the whole 173,614 cubic feet, equal to 1,081,600 gallons, and this involves the complete filling of the main sewer, all sewers in Newtown, Adam-street, and Bute-terrace, and the partial filling of all other sewers up to Caroline- street, Charles street, and in Bute-town to Patrick-street. On thelCth inst., during the hard frost, and at dead neap tide, the discharge of your main sewer was at the rate of 25,000 cubic feet per hour, giving a 100,000 cubic feet in the four hours of closed doors; this amount deducted from the gross capacity of 173,614 cubic feet up to flooding level, leaves a cubic area of 73,614 feet to accommodate any rainfall that may happen, or any thaw that may take place shortly pre- viou. to high water, or during the rise of the tide. The total surface area at present drained by the sewer system is, omit- ting docks, canal, and feeder, 488 acres, and over this area rain falls at various times, and in various quantities. The proportion of water flowing to sewers from a shower varies according to the description of surface on which the fall takes place. On land occupied by streets and buildings the discharge appears to vary from 52 to 80 and 90 per cent., the latter being no doubt exceptional. On agricultural land, the quantity will not be much less than 50 per cent., if the soil is already soaked by previous falls; hut the time occupied in the discharge will be longer. Setting aside the 3in. which (according to observations taken at the Town Hall), fell on the 4th September, and taking the *72in. which fell on the 28th, near the time of high water, and assuming half the quantity to pass to the sewers, and one-fourth of it during the period the doors are closed, say 3i hours, we have a quantity of 318 786 ft for a storage of 73,614, c. ft., leaving 215,172 c. ft., or a million and a half gallons of backwater to be stored temporarily in the kitchens and store cellars, of which complaints have so frequently been made, and fully accounting for the depths of 17, 19, and 24 inches, stated to have been experienced. The fall of 108 inch on the 24th of last month with high spring tides, assuming one-halt of the fat! to pass to the sewers, and only one-third of that half to flow into them during the rise of tide just previous to high water, would give an excess of 1,797,809 gallons beyond the storage-room available up to the point of flooding basements. These are not strained cases, nor excessive falls, as you will see by the register table, nor is the time calculated on for dis- charge unreasonable. Formal complaints of inconvenience and damage suffered from the overflows of back water, have been before you since 1861, shortly alter the completion of the extension drainage, and with eiery increase of area, the evil and consequent complaints have increa.-ed. The whole question seems to me perfectly simple. The sewers are stopped from discharging at certain periods, easily ascertain- able they are of a certain cubical capacity, admitting of de- finite measurement; a certain portion of that capacity is oc- cupied by a nearly constant amount of sewage and deep subsoil drainage; and another portion of the capacity, being above the level ot basements in the lower part of the town is useless as storage room the amount of rainfall to be pro- vided for, is the only indefinite item in the account, and the experience of hydraulic engineers who have specially studied the subject, ought to form a reasonably safe guide in that particular. The only remedy I can recommend is the one which has so often been pressed on your notice, viz.: a storage reser- voir at the outfall of the sewer, to hold two million gallons of back water, and with the necessary valves, overflows, and appliances. This or a similar reservoir is described in Mr. Hawkshaw's original report of 1853. Owing to want of statutory power to take land, the construction was deferred, and on completion of the first sewer scheme in February, 1857, Mr. Hawkshaw reports to you, in consequence of the Board having no power to secure the requisite land, this re- servoir was not included in the contract for works. I refer to this now, because I consider with the rapidly increasing drainage area of this town, this provision for relieving the sewers during the period of high water and in storms of rain will be essential to the perfect drainage of the district, and you ought as soon as you conveniently can to provide for its construction. I again obtruded the subject on your attention in Septem- ber, 185iS, and in March, 1809, a design for a reservoir at the present outfall within the district, was prepared, and by your direction submitted to Lord Bute's engineers, carefully ex- amined and approved by them. This being done, the re- commendation was rejected by the Board, and the matter remained in abeyance until 1863 and 1805, when subject to the passing of a Bute Dock bill, involving a diversion of the sewer, an arrangement was made between the respective engineers, by which the construction of storage room was again provided for, and for the entire cost 61 which, inclusive of land and all contingencies, you were to contribute a sum of £4,.)1)0. The curtailment of the dock scheme, rendered the con- tingent diversion of your main sewer unnecessary in respect of works for which Parliamentary powers were given, and matters appear now to stand in the same position as in 1858, cept that it now seems clear you have power to obtain land compulsorily for constructing a reservoir in your own district. CATHAYS PROPOSED DISTRICT. Subject to the provision of sufficient storage room for storm waters, there is no difficultv in draining this district into the sewers system. It was in fact, included in the scheme of 1S58, the sanction of the Secretarv of State was obtained for borrowing funds money was borrowed, and pending the settlement of the reservoir question, was tem- porarily applied for purchase of houses in High-street and other streets, in preference to raising another loan, and keeping the drainage balance at your bankers. Good falls for the sewers are obtainable, the least fall being 20 feet per mile; no flushing will be required, and the necessity of drains is now great; streets constructed ten years ago remain undrained, and as I have on previous occasions stated, cesspools and cloets in Lord Bute's portion of the district still pass by the old drain through "Cooper's Field," into the river Taff. The works at present required, are a main sewer from Tredegarville to Cathays, parsing through the street recently laid out, and now beiag built on, called Upper George-street, and branches up Cathay's-terrace and Catherine-street. The cost of this with ventilators, side entrances, and gullys shoots, I estimate, at £ 1,400. BUTE ROAD OLD SEWER. The nuisances arising from the retention of the old culvert in Bute-road, constructed by Lord Bute's Trustees fifteen years ago, and retained for flushing the Packet Slip, and draining the south end of Bute-town, are constantly on the increase, and must be so as long as the culvert remains in it present condition. I would recommend you to close this sewer entirely north of Hannah-street, and drain the surface channels of Bute-road into your own sewer running parallel with it at about li 0 feet distant, constructing proper catchpits at the street grids for stopping and collecting deposit of road detritus, which in the limestone used for roads in Cardiff, is a very difficult matter to deal with in a flat sewer. Also, to con- sider seriously the necessity of diverting the culvert south- ward, in which I.ord Bute's trustees would probably meet your wishes. VENTILATION AND ESCAPE OF FOUL GASES. The system of ventilating the sewers into the streets direct, reduces the tendency of the foul air to make its way into the houses and back yards, through house drains as it un- doubtedly would, and as it occasionally does, where stench traps are neglected or removed. Great complaints have, however, been received during the last six years from householders in every quarter of the town, and from medical gentlemen, of illness caused by the inflnx of foul air from the street ventilators into the houses. This is caused by the air issuing from the shaft passing in the direction of the wind in a continuous stream at a level of about two feet from the surface of the street, through the first open doorway or window, into which a little extra draught exists. In the day time this is generally imperceptible to the eye, but in the early morning, the external air being considerably colder than the vapour, the latter is condensed, just as the breath is condensed on a frosty morning, and assumes the form of a stream or column of condensed steam. The state of the tide has nothing whatever to do with this condensa- tion, which is merely a question of comparative tempera- tures; but the efflux of the foul air is made evident when the back pressure of water in the sewers is not felt and it must be apparent to any unprejudiced person that the rate of efflux and consequent quantity of foul air discharged when the air in the main sewers is being displaced by back water, must be very considerably increased. I have been compelled to close several of these outlets in Bute-street, Bute-town, Temperance-town, Newtown, Crock- herbtown, and ether localities, on reiterated complaints of inhabitants in their vicinity and you are now trying the effect of a deodorising charcoal chamber in half a dozen places, with a view to a more extensive adoption of the sys- tem, if the system is favourable. Direct communication by flues has been made with engine chimneys in the few cases available, the most effective draughts being at the Cardiff Gasworks, with a circular flue 18 inches in diameter, and a velocity of 1.025ft. per minute; and at Messrs. Hill and Sons', West Dock, with a flue of 15 inches diameter, and a velocity of 430ft. per minute. Should the charcoal ventilators prove inefficient, I think it will be necessary to construct three or four special ventilating chim- neys in the flatter districts of the town but further observa- tions on the temperature of the sewers, and the action of pre- sent ventilators, are desirable before recommending definitely any considerably outlay. COSL OF DRAINAGE. The amounts expended in your drainage works, from the formation of the Board to this date are:— I Mr. Hawkshaw's design, under contract with Messrs. N. and D. Jones, and certified by him £ 24,384 0 7 Completion of same in Bute-town, by Messrs. Joues, and certified by me 2,249 15 0 Total cost of Mr. Hawkshaw's design, omitting In reservoir not constructed £ 26,624 15 7 Extension scheme of 1858, part complete 7,47b 19 6 Additional protective works to outfall, subse- quent to construction, to check encroach- ments of the sea 687 0 0 Extension of branch sewers in various parts of the district, flushing tanks, conduit, &c. 2,200 0 0 Total ccst of drainage works and extensions,to date £ .36,988 15 1 The cost involvel in the works recommended for p resen improvements of existing sewers I estimate as follows :— Two side entrances, at Stanley-street and Love- lane, already ordered 50 0 0 One ditto, at Adam-street, already ordered. 20 0 0 One ditto, at Crockherbown, ditto One ditto, at Bute-town, ditto f lfw- n One ditto, at Ellen-street, Newtown, ditto One ditto, at ditto Flashing valves at Charles-street, Mary Ann- street, Love-lane, and Pendoylan-street 60 0 0 Stop doors in Bute-town main sewer, for flush. ing, six 18 0 0 Catch pans for ventilating shafts, to renew, 60. 52 0 0 X300 0 0 The amount required to be expended to complete the ori- ginal plan, as designed by Mr. Hawkshaw, and the extension plan for existing streets in the Cathays district, as laid out by myself, I estimate at :— For outfall reservoir works £-1,500 0 0 For main sewer to Cathays, and sewers in Cat- hays-terrace and Catherine-street, including entrances and surface drainage 1,100 0 0 A block of land lying between Plucca-lane, Cathays, and the Taff Vale Railway, is now being laid out for building purposes, and will shortly require an extension.of drainage in that vicinity. CONCLUDING REMARKS. The foregoing remarks, with the aid of the following tables and plans, will, I trust, place the condition of the sewers, and the improvements which I consider necessary, as cltarly before you as the nature of the case admits. [ cannot claim any of the credit due to the original design, which I think experience has shown to have been well con- sidered, sufficiently comprehensive, and well suited to your district, and which certainly has offered every facility for extensions beyond the first area. Experience of the working of the system during the ten years it has been in operation would naturally suggest several minor points which are sas- ceptible of amendment, and which have been already de- scribed. But I may venture to state that no engineer ever designed a work which, after ten years' experience of its action, he would not be able to improve. Assuming that the scheme, as at first designed, were completed, I see no reason to doubt the permanent efficiency of the sewers, nor that the overflowing of basements will be prevented.
TAFF VALE RAILWAY COMPANY.
TAFF VALE RAILWAY COMPANY. The sixty-second half-yearly meeting of this company was held on Tuesday, at the Athenaeum, Bristol,-—Mr. James Poole, chairman of the Board of Directors, presiding. There was a large attendance of proprietors. The notice convening the meeting having been read, The Secretary (Mr. E. Kenway) read the report, which has already been published in the Cardiff Times. The CHA.IK.MAN, who was received with loud applause, said before he proceeded to the consideration of the report which had just been read, he desired to pay a tribute of respect to one who had been lately taken from amongst them, and who he might say was amongst the originators of the under- taking -the late Mr. Coffin, who for many years was deputy- chairman of that company, and subsequently became chair- man, and who remained connected with them long enough to see the undertaking through the great difficulties which it had in his day to encounter (hear, hear). His great ability, his admirable temper, his disposition and character generally secured him the respect and esteem of all who had the plea- sure of his acquaintance. (Hear, hear.) With reforence to the report, his task was an easy one, for the directors had happily not to come before them with a decrease of trade attributable to the badness of the times, the scarceness of money, and the rinderpest, or other causes which other rail- ways had to do, but they had to congratulate them upon their traffic having been well maintained and their dividend fairly earned. (Hear, hear.) With reference to the Pen- arth undertaking, there was again a formidable balance, though less than the last half-year, placed to its debit, but he would suggest that rather than take it as a debit ptr se, they should look upon it as a charge upon the general traffic of that company, for it was notorious that it had facilitated that traffic, and had it not been for the existence of the Penarth undertaking he very much doubted whether the return would have been so satisfactory as it was that day. He thought the directors might claim for themselves the credit rather of anticipating the trade, rather than of waiting until it arrived, and then affording it accommodation. (Hear, hear.) After briefly adverting to the proposed extension of the Llantrisant line, which would bring them in more direct communication with the western coalfields, to the extra traffic over which the Penarth undertaking would afford an amount of facility and accommodation which it would not otherwise get, the Chairman reminded the meeting that when they took to the Aberdare Railway, it was a strain and a pressure on the revenue of the company, and looked more formidable than even the Penarth Harbour and Dock c but they had lived long enough to see it a most productive undertaking, and he had no doubt that in a very short time the Penarth undertaking would becnie as remunerative as the Aberdare had been. (Hear.) There was one item in the accounts which was very formidable and very grievous. He alluded to the Parliamentary expenses. Last half-year they amounted to £50uO, and this half- year they were charged the same. He need only to appeal to the experience of any gentleman who had had the fearful ordeal of a Parliamentary opposition to go through, how imperceptibly they were dragged into a mesh from which there was not an escape unless they retired altogether, and had the directors done that they would have sacI ificed their interest to a far greater extent than they had done in the expenditure of so large a sum of money in Parliamentary expenses. (Hear, hear.) The dearness of money and the exposure of frauds had, how- ever, so operated on public minds that he thought they need not contemplate in the future so disastrous a course of pro- ceeding as they had had to contend with in times past. (Hear, hear.) The Chairman then referred to the abolition of the penny terminal charge, which had amounted to a very considerable sum, but it had been a source of grievance to the freighters for a long time, and he believed that the re- moval of it would be very acceptable to them, and would be received with as much satisfaction as the directors had in having the means of parting with it. (Hear, hear.) The Dare Valley Railway had been completed and opened; there was already a very large traffic, and arrangements were made for bringing down a considerable increase of coal. During the last half-year upwards of 60,000 tons had been brought down by that railway, the who:e of which had passed over their line. (Hear, hear.) The report alluded to the retirement of Mr. Fisher, who had been in the service of the company for the last 26 or 27 years, and to whose ad- mirable management of the traffic the Chairman bore testi- mony. The gentleman who would succeed Mr. Fisher had been his right hand man for years, and although he (Mr. Fisher) would retire from the post of traffic manager, his successor, Mr. Page, would have the advantage of his past experience, and in cases of necessity his assistance. The dividend which the directors declared was 10 per cent., with a very respectable balance carried forward, and he trusted that next half-year they might meet under the same favourable auspices, and not with a reduced dividend. (Hear, hear.) He moved that the report of the directors be received and adopted. (Applause.) Mr. W. DONE BUBHKLL. deputy-chairman, seconded the motion, and highly eulogised the services of Mr. Fisher. He said it was only on Saturday night that he read the re- port of the London and North Western, and there, to his astonishment, he found that that company had in the year 1866 paid in compensation for damage to life and what Mr. Moon, the chairman, called fright," the enormous sum of £ 118,000. Now he would ask the proprietors before him to turn back to their accounts and see the comparatively insig- nificant amount that the Taff Vale Company had had to pay -in point of loss of life they had never paid one shilling (applause), They must not understand him to refer to that matter in joyful adulation; he spoke it more with trembling, for accidents would occur, and as everything now-a-day was reduced to an average-they had averages of murder, and averages of accidents—he supposed they must have an acci- dent some day (hear, hear) but if the same zealous atten- tion was paid to the working of the line in the future as had been paid in the past, he had the strongest hope and the firmest belief in a continuance of their success (applause). Mr. PEKUYexp) eased his gratification at the removal of the terminal charge upon coal, and went on to refer to the call which had been made upon the C shares. They had been given to understand that there would be no call for a long time on the C shares, and it appeared that when money was at ten per cent. there was no call, but now that money was reduced to three per cent. there came a call upon the C shares. He thought that they ought to have the working expenses a little more in detail (hear, hear), and expressed a hope that the directors would in future drop that little bit of puny greatness, we declare a dividend they were the only company which did not "recommend" to the share- holders the payment of a certain dividend. It would be a little more courteous to the proprietors if they were to do as other companies did. The speaker, in conclusion, bore tes- timony to the value of the services rendered to the company by Mr. Fisher (hear, hear). Mr. A. \V ARREN said that so long as the directors de- clared a dividend of 10 per cent. he did not care whether they declared it themselves or asked them (the shareholders) to adopt it (applause). He was going to suggest the same thing as Mr. Perry, namely, that the directors should give them more details of the working expenses of the Penarth Company. That undertaking was still a great drain upon them, and they were losing £ 25,000 a year by it, and the shareholders would naturally like to see where the money went to (hear, hear). Mr. HEAD said he had never known Mr. Fisher person- ally, nor did he know him now. He had, however, had frequent opportunities of inspecting the working of the Taff Yale line, and he felt bound to say that he had nevfV seen on any line the workshops, the rolling stock, and the line itself kept in better condition than the Taff Vale—a condition which could only be the result of the most able management. (Hear, hear). It was the practice on some lines to drive traffic without giving a sufficient degree of attention to the road and the rolling stock, and unless a thorough harmony was maintained in the condition of the road, the rolling stock, and the workshops, there could not be a perfect or satisfactory mode of carrying on the traffic. There were few railways which could boast of such continued prosperity as theirs. But their children were not so fortunate; they were all going along with a sort of shuffle. The chairman had told them that the Penarth undertaking was progressing ex- tremely well, and would bring great advantage to that con- cern. No doubt that was correct, but he was sorry to ob- serve that the Penarth shares were at a considerable dis- count. In a concern like theirs-a prosperous and well- doing concern—it was to their interest to take rather a wide view of the arrangements which they made with those under- takings with which they were 30 closely allied. He con- tended that when they took a lease of a line for a short term it introduced an element of uncertainty into that stock. They were told that the Llantrissant was doing well, and was bringing traffic to the line. Why not then, make a fair permanent arrangement with them, and the same with the Penarth Dock and Harbour ? The CHAIRMAS: The Penarth undertaking is leased to the Taff Yale in perpetuity. f-^understood that, but there was a clause to the effect that if they exceeded a certain fixed estimate the gua- rantee would not be exceeded. The speaker expressed a hope that the directors would look to the thing as a whole and deal with the subsidiary undertakings in a way that would bring the whole property together, so that it might be better known and understood in the market, and that if a man wanted to buy Llantrisant shares, he might know what he was buying, and that he might not have to look forward to a short lease. The result, he said, would be that the Taff Vale stock would be better known, better valued, and become more marketable, and if they wanted to raise money for other concerns they would receive greater sup- port. With regard to the C shares, he could not concur in the remarks of Mr. Perry. It was desirable not to starve their own shares too much, for he thought that they should live and let live. (Hear, hear.) If they wanted persons to take new shares, they should let them feel that they were worth having. The owner of unpaid shares was liable to be called.,upon in difficulty, but it was rather (Hear, hean) Pt f°r that time of difficu,ty- in reP'ying, said he had no doubt that the last speaker was very sincere in what he had said, but they all desired to have ten per cent. and if they had taken j- J11- ?<* eman's advice, they would not have had such a dividend. (Applause.) He did not hesitate to say that the successful policy had been-how far it was prudent to con- tinue it in the future he would not argue-confining them- selves to their own business (Applause.) They had started and had induced shareholders to invest their money in the coal business, to bring coal down to Cardiff, and there ship it. They had done that, and had realised ten per cent If they had accepted the invitations given to them east and west, they would have been in the condition of many other railways, not offering them 10 per cent., nor even five per oent. (Applause ) They had diverged a little—they had taken the Aberdare, the Dare Valley, and the Llantrisant lines, and now they were going to extend farther, all with the es,eittial object of Cardiff being the focus where the coal should be shipped. So long as they confined themselves to thui, they were fulfilling the objects of the original com- pany. (Hear, hear.) The Chairman then proceoded to reply to the observations of Mr. Perry, in reference to the C shares, and, in reply to a question from that gentleman said that it was the intention of the directors to issue 4i stock before the C shares were called up. With regard to the Penarth accounts/they asked their forbearance for more full details of those accounts. When they asked their con- sent to a lease of that undertaking at 4t per cent, and half profits, they (the directors) hoped and believed that the whole undertaking would be completed within the amount stated in the Act of Parliament. Having replied to the good-natured observations of Mr. Perry with reference to the directors "declaring" the dividend, the Chairman said ^'f8 gratifying to the directors to receive the eulogy which had been passed upon their management, and which reflected great credit upon their lato traffic ma- nager, Mr. Fisher, who had the good sense to see the benefit of keeping up a good permanent way, with a corresponding degree of order in the rolling stock. For the trade to Cardiff, it was particularly desirable that it should be so, as the coal brought on the lino was twice screened—it was screened before it was put on the road, and it was generally screened again before it was put on board ship. By having a good permanent way it was conveyed to the quavs in a better condition than it would be if it was knocked about by the roughness of the road over which it passed, and this was an object of much importance to the trade. Having referred to other remarks of the preceding speakers, the Chairman concluded by comparing the legiti mate undertaking of the Taff Vale with the speculative cha- racter of other undertakings. The report was then unanimously adopted. Mr. BUSIIELL stated that they had erected near to Cardiff a large establishment where they conducted the wagon re- pairs, and an application had been made to the Board to subscribe a sum of money towards the erection of a school for the benefit of the workmen there employed. Having created a population there, it was their duty, he argued, to take care that they were protected in so important an ele- ment as the education of their children and with the autho- rity of his colleagues, who were unanimous in the matter, he moved that the sum of £ 200 be subscribed towards the school. Mr. WHITING seconded the propostiion, and it was unani- mously adopted. Mr. FISHER said that hearing the many kind observations which had been made respecting him, he had naturally asked himself whether he was entitled to the credit which had been given him, and he thought that he should fail in his duty if he did not state that with the kind and generous con- fidence of the board, and with the advantage of able work- men, it would be a wonder if he had not succeeded. During the 20 years he had been connected with the Taff Vale the language from the directors to him had been that only of encouragement. In his future position of engineer his best energies should be devoted to their service, and he begged respectfully and gratefully to thank them. On the motion of Mr. PERRY, seconded by Mr. DANDO, the thanks of the meeting were voted to the Chairman and the directors, and having been acknowledged by the chair- man, the business of the ordinary meeting terminated. The meeting was then made special for the purpose of sanctioning an agreement between the Tan Vale Company and the Llantrissant and Taff Vale J unction Company for the working by the Taff Vale Company of the extension lines of the latter company. The CHAIRMAN pointed out upon a map the route of the pro- posed extension, and detailed the advantages that were likely to accrue to the Taff Vale Company from the large quantities of coal that would be brought to its system at Cardiff and Penarth. In reply to a question, the Chairman said that the Taff Vale Company proposed a guarantee a per cent. on the capital authorised to be raised by the Act of Parliament for the construction of the line. Resolutions approving the agreement, and authorising the directors to carry it out, were passed, and the meeting terminated. LLANIRISSANT AND TAFF VALE JUNCTION RAILWAY COMPANY. The twelfth ordinary half-yearly meeting of the proprietors of this company was then held, Mr. James Poole in the chair. The noii:>e convening the meeting having been read, Mr Kenway, secretary, read the report, which stated :— With oierence to the new lines :uid works authorised by the Companies' Act, 186ti, the necessary surveys for the extension of th? common branch to the Eiy Valley Railway have beet made, and your directors will shortly be in a posi- tion to tor tenders for this portion of the works. The other portions will be proceeded with as rapidly as your director:: can make the necessary arrangements. William Done EvasheU, Esq., and Henry Jones Evans, Esq., direc- tors and Mr. E. J. Baker, auditor, retire on this occasion. They are eligible for re-election. The repots was adopted, and the retiring directors and auditor vrere unanimously re-elected. The EiO'jxmg was then made special, for the purpose of 'n approving the working agreement with the Taff Vale. Resoluiuns authorising this proceeding were adopted. TAFF VALE WAGON COMPANY. Immediately after the proceeding meetings, the twenty- seventh ordinary half-yearly meeting ji the proprietors of this company was held, Air. James Ford, deputy chairman, presiding. Mr. Kenway, secretary, read the repoit, of which the fol- lowing all abstract:— The half-yearly statement of account shows a balance of £ 2777 t-s.>d. at credit of the redemption fund. This, to- gether vihL the interest that has accurred since the end of the year, reimiins with the Tatf Vale Railway Company, at Õ per een;. per annum. Your directors will place it upon permanent security as opportunity offers. Three meetings of the ncurd have been lield during the past year. Mr. Hutchins attended one of these, and Messrs. Ford and Leonard attended all. The Chaikm.n apologised for the absence of the chair- man of rh- company, Mr. Hutchins, through indisposition, and, iu taaving the adoption of the report and accounts, said tha: lis had no observations' tu make, as they spoke lor themselves Mr. C -toeitY Leon akp seconded the motion, and it was carried u.uaniuiv)us)y. Mr. r.;d was re-elected a director, and Mr. Barnard auditor. This wj-'uinatcd the basiu-ss. MID-WALES. The hJi.yearly meeting of this company was held on Tuesday .it the offices, liishopsgate-street, Mr. Whalley, M.P., in the chair. The report, au abstract of which has appeared, was taken as read. The Cl Are MAN, in moving its adoption, said upon the whole IT was satisfactory as icgarded the present position and fur;h',i prospects of the company. The Mid-Wales was almost th* only new Welsh railway the management of which I not been taken out of the hands of the directors and share! olders. lie could not imagine anything likely to prevent a constant increase of traffic on the line. It was not to The undeticieocy of the traffic to pay 3 per cent., or to any ether source whatever, that the enormous losses sustained in. the Welsn railways were to be attributed, but to the P u-Iiamentary system by which, in the first place, the efforts to make these railways involved a cost and risk that dete. r :d all bonujidc capitalists trom taking part in the work; and, in the next place, subjecting those who from motives oi speculation did find the money, to the powers of the great companies. The public Lad such interest in the maintenance of an independent route between South Wsles and Lancashire that Parliament might be expected to protect that rou-nd thus realize the expectations that the Acts of Parliament held out. A Sk iKEHOLDEK thought that <he item for directors' travelling expenses of £ 675 was rather excessive. 1 he ( H AIRMAN, in reply, said it included the travelling expenses m the directors for one year and a half; latterly the Board had declined to accept any travelling expenses whatever, but the sum they had received did not in any way eompens:; v. them for the amount out of pocket. As to the remuneration of the directors, although they were empowered to reoeiv-3 £ 7o0 per ann-j.ni, they had not taken anything. The retort was adopted, and "on the motion of Mr. WILDY a special vote of thanks was passed to Mr. Whalley, M P., regretting his retirement from the direction, and thanking him for the services he had rendered to the company. The proceedings tbcn terminated. RHYMNEY. On Tuesday the half-yearly general meeting of this eom- p my was held at Wood's Hotel, Enmival's-inxi; Mr. J. Boyle in the chair. The renort, an abstract of which has appeared in the Car Boyle in the chair. The renort, an abstract of which has appeared in the Car diff Tim i, was taken as read. The Chairman, in moving the adoption of the report, congratul .ted the shareholders upon the satisfactory condi- tion of the line. The rtvo-t was then adopted, including a dividend of 3 per cent. per ;nurn on the ordinary stosk. Mr. W Austin and Lieutenant-Colonel Tyler having been re-elected Jirectors, and Mr. Watkins auditor, a formal re- solution was put and carried unanimously for converting the paid-up shares of £ 10 each of the o per cent. preferential capital j;r-y o per cent, preference capital stock of the com- pany. A vore (J) thanks to the chuuuian closed the proceedings. GLAMORGAN IRON AND COAL. The £ isreholders in the Glamorgau Iron and Coal Com- pany (Li t'ted) have determined on winding-up voluntarily under tD; -mpervision of the Court. ^MONMOUTHSHIRE RAILWAY AND CANAL. The directors of this company have determined on recom- mendmy a dividend at the rate of 5 j per cent, per annum for the pas: Lali-year, against li in the previous and 6i in the corresponding half-years. A slight fulling off in the traffic and the suspension of two luge freighters have been the main e^uc ei; of the decrcitse in the dividend.
TEE CHIEF CONSTABLESHIP.
TEE CHIEF CONSTABLESHIP. The magistrates of the county of Glamorgan held a special session at Bridgend on Tuesday for the purpose of considering the applications nude for the vacant office of Chief Constable of the oounty. The fol:owing is the complete liST OF CANDIDATES. P. H. Ap t in, late Captain 3rd Regiment, 37 years of age George G. Anderson, Lieutenant Indian Army, 4S years W. M. A.'iierson, Captain 2nd Queen's Royal Regiment, 32 years E. M. late Captain 85th Regiment, 31 years W illiam T'lltton Cinder, late Lieutenant Roval Marine Light infantry, 2o years George Cc.itipbell, Ensign 70th HighLanders Septimus '-hild, Pecsionod Commander Indian Navy, 41 years Thomas C*ttes, ktc Lieutenant and Adjutant 8th Hussars, 31 II. Bei-tiijK Coathupe, late Captain 72nd Highlanders, 36 years Clarence A Col'ier, Major Bombay Staff Corps, 36 years Emilius Cologan, Lieutenant Bengal Police Thomas v, Cooke, Major Royal Marine Light Infantry, 41 years Frederick A. B. Crauford, Captain Royal Navy, 44 years Charles Crigan, Retired Captain 17th Regiment, 40 years John Desborough, Colonel Royal Artillery, 43 years M. F. Do Captain noyal Artillery, 33 years Theodore H. Dory, late Captain 10th Hussars E. H. i.ljree EIderton, Captain and Adjutant, Meath Mi! 36 years Henry \v. Etheridge, late Captain and Lieutenant-Colonel Indian Navy, 40 years Oswald vV. Every, late Captain 75th Foot, 32 years W. C. Farmer, Captain Royal Marines, years R. M. 1 _rrant, Captain 1st W iltM Volunteer Corps, 30 years Charles St. Join Fitzherbert, C.B., latu Captain 5th F-isi- leers, years Charles I1 ist' r, late Lieutenant Indian. Navy, 0i years Frank Gardiner, Cemmander Indian Navy L. Grifistbs, Captain Royal Artillery W. P. Gurney, Captain 91st Highlanders, 33 years A. W. Kail, late Captain and Adjutant 14th and 58th Regiu-eiits, 32 years W. Hamilton, Governor Wilts County Gaol, 44 years Charles ,;1, Hampton, late Captain otith Regiment, 20 years Arthur Ermley, Captain 5-nd Light Infantry, S3 years R. C. Holmes, late Captain and Adjutant 2ad Norfolk Voluntcor Corps, 40 years R. W. No'vburgh Jenkins, Captain 8th I~Iussars, iO years Phomas A. Julian, C tptain 52nd Xiegiment, 32 years David K uap, Major Bengal Army, 43 yljars F. W. Lambert, Major Bengal Army Frederick Percy Lea, Lieutenant-Colonel (half-pay) un- attached, 4'.J years Henry Gnc Lindsay, Lieutenant-Colonel Rifle Brigade, 36 Richard :j, A. Luard, Colonel 62nd Regiment, 40 years Frederic Yv. Lyon, Captain Royal Horse Artillery, 34 ye-trs Edwin Kiitnwarmg, late Captain 16th Regiment, 36 years Charier M'Arthur, Captain Royal Marines, Musketry In- struct x, (full pay), 42 years Robert; M'TTeill, late Captain 10th Hussars, 39 years D. XV Martin, Captain 3«th_R0gimsnt W. C. Masters, late Colonel 5th Fusileers, 43 years Frank J. Murray, late Lieutenant Royal Fusileers, 29 years C. Mollam, C.B., late Lieutenant Colonel 7oth and S6th Kegiicieuts, 45 years Herbert Vaughan Mundell, late Major ISth and 96th Regi- ments. 45 years G. E. Nev/land, Sub-Inspector of Police in Ireland, 22 years Iltyd T, M. N'choll, Commander Royal Navy, 39 years K. L. r. Ogilvie, late Major in the Indian Army, Governor of Oxford County Prison Danvers Osborne, Major Bengal Army, 39 years Itodney C'Shea, late Captain 75th Regiment, Captain and Adjutetnt 4th Lancashire Volunteer Corps, 44 years C. Lunyon Owen, Lieutenant and Adjutant Royal Marine Light infantry, '() years Richard Palmer, Superintendent on the Great Western Railw-y, 27 years W. C. Palmer, late Captain Madras Staff Corps, 38 years Henry Powell, Captain 4th Middlesex R.V.C., 39 years E. H. I Ray, Captain Royal Navy, 39 years W. Duftijld Rookc, Inspector of Irish Constabulary 31 years E. H. F lioyse, Sub-Inspector of Irish Constabulary 34 years ."M J. D. Shakespear, Lieutenant-Colonel Royal Arflwehavet years tiro en t, w Nathaniel Steevens, late Lieutenant-Colonel 88th 0 ij an J Rangers, 39 years t Herbert Stoddart, late Lieutenant 7th Fusilee' i:, Carmarthen County Police, 29 years v sucn Eubule D. Thelwall, Captain Royal Marine ArO,6 c°uoty. years *ercising A. H. Versturme, Captain 59th Regiment (half from tb years from h John L. Vivian, late Lieut.-Col. Bombay Army, Wsstimoni Constable of Borough Police, Plymouth, 39 yea' 'Pose, as 1 William Thomas Waldy, Captain 43rd Light Infi Peace do years G. T. S. Winthropp, late Captain Royal Navy, 44 Jm w; fn Henry *\rrenn, Superintendent Glamorgan Count} 47 years tnereup Robert Young, Captain and Superintendent Conr^ Han116 West Australia, 44 years dumber ( Thomas J.^Young, Captain Royal Navy, 40 years that th J. N. T. O'Bricn, Captain 2 ith Foot, 37 years lid here W. S. Cookworthy, late Captain 60th Royal Rifles, the 5th P. Pinkney, late Captain 6th Dragoon Guards, 34 f those two Thos. Sumner, late Accountant in the Central I enable Western India, 28 years it will The attendance ef magistrates was very liD Gtn is beri comprising nearly ninety, and with the exception > »ill thin members of parliament included nearly every 1 of the Court. Robert Oliver Jones, Esq., cb r. SA.LMO provided. Among the other magistrates present Oth Mr. Christopher Face Man-el Talbot, Esq., Lord Lieu htived on the Riyht Hon. Lerd Tredegar; the Hon. F'Jhe CHAII Courtenay Morgan; the Yen. Archdeacon Bld^f. GWY> W. David, Esq., Mayor cf Cardiff; R. F. Lascell tted by 1 ner, Orawshay Bailey, M.P., Howel Gwyn, M.P., B of eigb Fothergill, T. M. Talbot, Evan W. David, ^>e Williams, G. C. Williams, W. Perkins, G. T. C expensel S; L. Grenfeli, Esqrs.; Rev. R. T. Tyler, Rev. object H Knight, Rev. D. W. Williams, Rev. Canon Bruf1 reason T. H. Edmondes, Rev. J. Griffiths, Rev. H. H. Ric nded eigl H N. V. Edwards Vaoghan, H. R. Bagsbawe, Q.C., 8es are 1 Cameron, T. W. Booker, Gwylim Williams, David ftfien fro R. H. Rbys, E. M. Richards, J. S. Corbett, J. S. there is lor. Wyndbam Lewis, Esqrs.; Major Richards, led, WbE H E. T. Wood Griffith Phillips, J. C. Fowler, B<1idates, H Dillwyn, etc., Et-qrs. Lookic Tbe CIIAUtMAN remarked-The Court of Sessions lBOore tb bles here to-day in consequence of the lamented 6,11 the no of the late Chief Constable, for the purpose of should I .e. measures to provide another officer in his place. he CHA] Lord Lieutenant baa given notice of a resolute ne-thos, 1 will now call on him to move it. always 'I he LOKD LIEUTENAHT said—I am desirous,iu' in tl ing this motion before you, to explain the reasons origi have led to the trouble btiing given you of asse11 L ,r- C. E to-day, for I am aware that it is inconvenient ivQ, and to have to assemble twice for the same purpose. 4V0'- EVA: same time I have thought it my duty not to simp'l sent i suit your convenience, but also the respect due 1 ii'hade t large number of gentlemen who have offered thetd he CHA for the situation (hear, bear.) You will have se«| Q a div advertisement which appeared in the papers origi *&W. giving notice of the intention to elect a chief coU1 |L LOB to-day. When Mr. Dalton issued that notice, I they no doubt that it did not occur to him that eighty gentlemen wonld have offered themselves & vAssizes office. If it had so occurred to him, he never wou^ C. B given so shoit a time as two hours to took over a e LOR amine hundreds of testimonials, for each of the i e the N didaies has thought it necessary to send a nuffl^ M testimonials, which, multiplied by the number of r. C. I dates, renders it physically impossible for us through one-tenth of them in the time allowed. J,et so time tne notue was inserted in the papers, Mr. V fi/ ea was under the impression that only five or six$ieg: 8 Lou men would have offered themselves, and that it ^Date 1 be very ea3y between eleven and one o'clock to Hii?081' made an examination of their testimonials. But^ 8 °'t; the present circumstances I believe it to be utterfl l^^tj possible that we should attempt to go through the' InaP monials to-day. If we made the attempt, we shoi^ here until night, and then have to adjourn until tb» >e 9H day, and so on. Therefore, the convenience of 8^ ties, I thought, would be best consulted if a comH' fc^:668 th of elimination were constituted, to select out Wia*60 large number of candidates some number wb'1 ^01 thought should be left to yourselves to fix, and fivifame the Chairman has recommended to be eight; th»l number should be selected from the rest, and the' 'hftw6' m it tee come before the next meeting with this nU^ and those who were selected would have notice t H»e 1 a tbem then to attend. As the circulars were origi' Vil]:ari°l sect out to the different candidates, it was suggest IJf p1318 tbem that those who thought proper to attend sb' ow^ give notice of their iotention to the Clerk of the ^oot6^ ] It would be an act of cruelty to ask gentlemen to^ kin8 e^? here from the further parts of Scotland and Ireland/ &. L\^r had not a ghost of a chance. On looking ever fc. there are some who would be at once selected amMfrad en(j° aside as ineligible; yet under the terms of the notice e^l pa»ts one of tbe candidates would have come here, and li3t them a« we well know would have been ill-able to aflordSther°' expense of coming here and going back, to no ef'^hiok purpose. Among the candidates whose testimonial9^bete. before us to day are many most distinguished name^^bjj e may mention for instance Colonel Luard, Mr p tor of volunteers and commandant of the can)P;*0y WimbledoD Colonel Shakespear, of the Royal a distinguished officer; Captain Lyon, of the 8«»uitteeal Horse Artillery who are known to many of yon; The r many more whom I need not enumerate. It woo^^ive an act of discourtesy and disrespect to tbem to pro^those 0? to the'election without even looking at their testimoD'Jj fateg Many of you have seen the testimonials of many of H ^0 candidates, but a large number have only been seeO.J thetep the Clerk of the Peace. To proceed to the ele"ty without looking at these, would be a course worthy of the magistrates of tbe county (hear, erelore I beg leave to move, in accordance with *3 Xhe terms of the notice you have already seen That Qf Mr testimonials of the several candidates for the office, Lord referred to a committee to be constituted by the n<^ nation of magistrates from each petty sessional divis*? be within the county, with directions to select from ^cces? candidates tbe eight whom they deem best qualified, & The to leport the names of those seltc ad to an adjoumni^t of the sessions and that the candidates so selected notified then to attend." lotI) a Mr. N. V. EDWARDS VAUGHAN seconded the motion*, I 4qj Mr. CRAWSHAY BALLEY said I have got a list of to totara- monials here, and I am vary sorry to differ with C (late Lord Lieutenant, but I dare say every gentleman had the testimonials sent to them, and have bad tiaJ6 1 ttatfj t read them over. We are brought here together to-6 "born trom long distances, in the hopes of having the q ueStJ left to finally settled. I shall move, Mr. Chairman, that jJ raitte settle it this day. I do not know if anybody will seCO Shall me or not. ( lrht The CHAIRMAN What form does your motion the Is it to be an amendment of the Lord Lieutentan' pled» motion ? 0-itel, Mr. BAILED I move that we proceed to elect diately. Mr. BLANDY JENKINS I second the amendment. te,te Mr. BUDD I ask, for information, whether the *Qtil( tion of the committee is to be made by the magistral it. ( at this meeting, or whether the magistrates in the <$' ferent divisions are to assemble and select members f°f t the committee. I that The CHAIRMAN The intention is to make the selee' xnagi tion from the magistrates here to-day. That will be tJJ8 tqaa, only way of doing it. 1 'V%tld Mr. R. C. N. Carne I regret exceedingly that Pto, cannot concur with the resolution proposed by our j. cellent Lord Lieutenant. Nor, on the other hand, caD^ tUi^ concur with tbe amendment which has been *ilj that we should forthwith proceed to the election. JW Q objection to the original motion submitted to Court by tbe Lt>rd Lieutenant are two fold. Iu the tftit place I do not think it right that we should delegate to .ùQ a sub-committee a power which we ourselves possess aP d which we are well capable of acting upon (hear, bear) aD in the next place I think that the number of persons pro, posed by the Lord Lieutenant to be selected to make tbelt personal appearance here is too small. My objection to ] delegating our powers to a sub-committee is that all of Riti have had testimonials sent to us, which have been lyiD^ on our tables, some of them nearly six weeks and none 0' >1 tbem Jess than eight days, from nearly all the cand'' 001 dates. (The Chairman No, no.) This has been case with myself, and such has been the case with nearly every magistrate whom I have the honour of addressing Therefore we have had ample time and opportunity 0 reading these testimonials and judging between the candidates. Why should you delegate to a small S«J^' committee a power which yoa yourselves have, ao^ which you are well capable of actiog on with —(hear, bear). It would be stultifying ourselves, seems to me, were we to do oo. Then my objection t0 j proceeding to a final election to-day is this. I thlP)¡ j R we ought to see the persona whom we are about to elect- I We should have a personal interview with them. The 1 number proposed by the Lord Lieutenant is too small, 1 because when a committee come to look through tbe testimonials they will find many of them so excellent 1 and the candidates so equally matched that it would be exceedingly invidious to select so small a number as eight. 1 would say at least twelve; but I would not appoint those twelve by the ipse dixit of a sub-committee Let every magistrate in the county exercise his vote. propose twelve, and let those candidates who to-day tbe twelve greatest number of votes be selected asked to attend here when we meet again, and show themselves, because I must say we have not seen any of the seventy.five candidates, or very few of tbem. happen to know very few of them myself, but from read- ing the testimonials I have pretty well made up mind who are best. To use a vulgar phrase, it is pP desirable that we should ouy a pig in a poke," or we J1l-' [ t