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CARDIFF BOARD OF GUARDIANS.
CARDIFF BOARD OF GUARDIANS. At the meeting of this Board, on Saturday, E. W. David, Esq., presided. In the Workhouse there had been 59 admissions, and 66 discharged, leaving 211 in the house, a decrease of 35 on the corresponding week of last year. In the School there had been six admitted and one pupil discharged during the week, leaving in the school 179. being an increase of 25 on last year. 139 of the pupils were re- ceiving industrial training. The School Committee reported in favour of erecting a cistern, agreeably to the suggestion of Mr. E. Evans last week; that a drain be made, connected with the central drain that ventilators be made in the store- room, agreeably to the suggestion of Mr. Daniel Jones; that twelve iron hurdles be procured, to fence in the hay-stack; that a sewing machine be procured; that Mrs. Williams be employed to perform the duties of the ma- tron, during her illness; and that an accumulation of old clothes, existing at the School, should be dis- posed of. The report was adopted. The Sanatory Committee reported in favour of distri- buting M'Dougall's notices at the Police Stations, the Sailors' Home, the Infirmary, the Havannah School- ship, &cs. They had discussed the new Health Act, and ascertained the nature and extent of the powers vested by it in the Board. They recommended that Sergeant Adams should be appointed as sanatory inspector for 'Penartb, and that the Guardian for that parish make arrangements for scavenging there. Mr. R. 0. JONES, in accordance with the views of the committee, moved that Sergeant Adams be appointed as Inspector, with a salary of X5 a year, for Penarth, Cogan, Llandough, Lerkwith, and that part of Llandaff which was in the hundred of Dinas Powis. He stated that before proposing this appointment he had written to Captain Napier, whose answer was that the Board were welcome to appoint Adams, and to make any use of the police that was required in this emergency. Alderman PRIDE seconded the resolution, which was agreed to. Mr. R. 0. JONES said he thought it also advisable to iappoint Sergeant Thornton inspector for all Llandaff, except the Board district of Canton, at the same salary as Adams. The sum was very small, and the appoint- ment could be terminated by three months' notice. There was much need of an inspector in Llandaff, espe- cially at Grangetown. The CHAIRMAN thought the present arrangement was working very well at Llandaff; but as Adams "was to receive an appointment, it would be as well to put Thornton on the same footing. Mr. E. EvANs advocated making Thornton inspector for Whitchurch, as well as for Llandaff, or allowing a trifle to the Whitchurch policman. Dr. PAINE said be was of opinion at first that the ser- geants should have been the inspectors, but Captain Napier would not then consent. The CHAIRMAN said that in Whitcburch the present system would work better than any alteration. They could not have a better inspector than Supt. Thomas, and if others were appointed, he would net feel the re- sponsibility as he did now. The Board voted to appoint Thornton inspector for Wbitcburch and for Llandaff, exclusive of Canton. Mr. R. 0. JONES moved that cholera medicines and disinfectants be left at the following places, for the use of residents of the various parishes :-Dinas Powis, at the post-office; Cadoxton, the school house Bonvil- stone, Mr. Eagloston's house; Penarth, the station; Wenvoe, the school house; St. Fagans, the Plymouth Arms; Peterstone, the school house; Pantyrch village, the police station; Pentyrch Works, the dispensary; Lisvane, Daniel Matthewa's house; Llanedarne, the public-bouse; Llanisben, the post-office; St. Mellons, the school; Whitchurch, the police station St. Lythans, the Duffryn school house; Penmark, the police station St. Nicholas, the police station Llandaff and Canton, the police stations; Pendoylan, the school house; Mer- thyr-Dovan, the police station Welsh St. Donatt's, Mr. Huntley's house; Llanilltern, the Star; Barry and Porthkerry, the school house; Caira and Ely, the In- dastrial School; Llantrithyd, the Rev. R. T. Tyler's; Llandougb, the schoolmaster's house; Michaelstone- super-Ely, the Plymouth Arms, St. Fagans; Michael- stone-le-Pit, Mr. Thomas's house; Roath, Sergt. Van- stone's and the Four Elms; Radyr, the Court; Rudry, Mr. Rogers's house; Rumney, the Pear Tree; St. George's, the school house; Grangetown, the police- man's house; St. Bride's, the rectory; Sully, the school house; Van, the guardian's house. The motion was adopted. The CHAIRMAN observed that the two Monmouthshire parishes in this Union, Rumney and St. Mellons, were without au inspector, and he moved that the Chief Constable of that county be asked to allow the police to t be appointed as inspectors by this Board. This was agreed to. The Clerk was directed to have a handbill issued, stat- „ ing where the medicines and disinfectants were to be had. r. Mr. R. 0. JONES said that part of Penarth bad be- come a town, and the people did not know where to throw their dust and ashes. He moved that the guar- dian be empowered to arrange for the daily rounds of a scavenger's cart, at seven shillings a week, for which price the gnardian (Mr. Davies) had informed the Sana- tory Committee that be had an offer to do the work. The CHAIRMAN asked if this expense would not fall on the Union at large. Ought not the vestry of. the parish to do the work ? Mr. R. O. JaNES replied that this Board could do it and charge the particular locality. The reference in the new Act to the vestry, applied only in cases where the parish vestry had been constituted by Act of Parlia- ment the sewer authority. The Clerk was directed to look at the Act and give the Board his opinion upon the point. Mr. E. EVANS did not think that the person offering could do the work at the price—a man, horse, and cart, could not work for 14d. a day. Mr. R. 0. JONES replied, that sum was fixed by the man himself, and be would have the benefit of the manure that he collected. The Penartb Guardian was empowered to conclude the bargain, and to inquire what further charge would be made if Cogan-row also was scavenged daily. Mr. J. S. CORBET: proposed that the house lately used as a police station at penarth be hired for six months, at X20 a year, as a receptacle for cholera patients, should any such be landed from ships. The CHAIRMAN supported the proposal, observing that Penarth was now a port; and cholera patients might be landed there any day, and there was now no place in which to put them. The motion was agreed to, and Messrs. Corbet, R. E. Spencer, J. S. Batchelor, and Davies. were appointed a committee to hire and fit up, and manage the house as a cholera hospital, in case it should be needed. Mr. R. 0. JONES moved that the Inspectors, Supts. Sadler and Thomas, be requested to visit each of the parishes, and before going, to notify the guardian and the clergyman of the parish of the time at which they would attend, as they could learn much more of the state of a place from going round it with a resident, than going alone. To show that, though much had been done, the country parishes were not yet free from nuisances, Mr. Jones referred to a very offensive nuisance in the toad near Wenvoe, along which he had travelled this morning. The motion of Mr. Jones was carried. In accordance with the new' Act, a general authority, to prosecute in all cases ef nuisances which the parties would not remove on being notified, was given to the Inspectors. COMPLAINT AGAINST A MEDICAL OFFICER. j Winby, of tho iron works at Canton-square, attended to prefer a complaint against Mr. Henry Edwards, the parochial surgeon of the Llandaff district. The Clerk read a letter from Mr. Winby to the Vice- Chairman of the Board, and a reply from Mr. Edwards. Mr. Winby a letter was to the effect that Mrs. Furse, the wife of a labourer, with six children, to whom he and his brother had given a few days' work from charity, had been laid up for several months with a bad leg, and had been under Dr. Edwards treatment for some time, but that he had been for days without seeing her: that she had then called in Dr Pearse who told her husband that she would lose her life if she was riot better attended to; that Messrs. Winby then desired Mr. Owen and Mr. Mouseley, who attended their workmen, to see her • that on being asked to see the woman again, Mr. Edwards hac replied that he would see Mr. Winby and his brother d-d first;" and that subsequently, being again asked by Mr. Winby to see her, Mr. Edwards said he would not do so, even if the Board directed him to do so. To this letter, Mr. Edwards a letter replied that Mr. Winby's letter scarcely deserved an answer, so insignifi. cant were the facts, and so patent the animus of the writer; that Dr. Pearse had given up the surgeoncy to Messrs. Winby's works, and the post was offered to Mr. Edwards, which he refused, the requirement being that a medical man should attend each family, man, woman, and children, for 2!d. per week; that when he first received an order to attend Mrs. Furse, he did so, though the husband was employed at Messrs. Winby s works, but that after Messrs. Winby had called in other advice, he declined to attend the case further, as it would have been unprofessional for him to do so; and that the reason why they objected to his not coming was merely that the food supplied to the woman by the parish was stopped when he (Mr. Edwards) no longer attended the case; that Dr. Pearse was now absent, but before leaving he bad written a letter which contradicted thw statement that he had ever oonsidaced the woman's life in danger that the language which Mr. Edwards had used to Mr. Winby was caused by his annoyance at being followed to his avocations at the Refuge, and dis- turbed by repeated demands to attend a case in which Messrs. Winby had themselves interfered with his (Mr. Edwards') treatment by calling in other advice without apprising him of their intention to do so that instead of having said that be would not attend again if the Board ordered him, what he had said was that he would not attend again unless the Board ordered him. The case, he considered, was not one for parochial relief at all, the husband having been only two days out of work. Mr. Winby now verbally repeated at greater length the statements in his letter, averring them all to be correct. He said the husband of the woman was not one of his regular hands, and therefore not entitled to be attended by the works doctor; but that when the man complained to him of Mr. Edwards' non-attendance, they gave him money to fee Dr. Pearse, and the man reported to him (Mr. Winby) that Dr. Pearse bad said the woman would lose her life if not better attended. Mr. Owen and his assistant Mr. Mousely, who attended the workmen, were in the yard at the time, and he asked them to see if the woman's condition was really so dangerous. They saw her and said she needed a liberal diet, and be (Mr. Winby) supplied her with wine, porter, &c., at his own expense. Then Mr. C. Winby asked Mr. Edwards to visit the woman again, and on his refusing, Mr. J. Winby called on him at the Refuge, and repeated the request, and he replied as stated in the letter. On Saturday last the letter of complaint was sent to the Board, who gave an order that Mr. Edwards must attend. He did not go until Sunday evening, with Dr. Pearse. On Tues- day he went again, and had been attending the case since. The husband was paid 2s. Gel. a day, but only worked a few days. The job was given to him only because be said his wife and children were starving. The CHAIRMAN remarked that there was no difficulty in any man earning 2s. 6d. a day steadily if he chose to work. Mr. R. 0. JONES said the point for the medical man to explain was, why he ceased to attend the woman. The employers, on hearing the man's complaint of the doctor's non-attendance, seemed to have acted as charit- able people should, took some means to get the woman seen to, remonstrated with the parish doctor, and finally complained to the Board. The averment was that the parish doctor had ceased to attend before the other was called in by the employer. Mr. Edwards, in reply, stated that he bad never omitted ta attend the woman, for twenty-four hours at a time, until he learned that without consulting him the Messrs. Winby had called in another person on which, as a matter of professional rule, he declined going on with the case, teiling Mr. Winby when he spoke to him, that he would not take up the case again without special instructions from the Board. Last week Mr. Alexander told the relieving officer to issue a fresh order, and on receiving that, Saturday evening, he called on the woman on Sunday afternoon, having first on Sunday morning gone to Mr. Alexander about it. I Mr. ALEXANDER said, it was not his order, but the order of the Board. Mr. Edwards said, since receiving that order he had attended the case constantly. The CHAIRMAN observed that Mr. Edwards was wrong in ceasing to attend a pauper case because be found another medical man had been called in. He should have submitted the facts to the Board, and obtained their permission before discontinuing attendance. The Rev. J. W. EVANS asked if there was not a strong feeling among medical men against being interfered with by other practitioners, which would justify Mr. Edwards in ceasing to attend. Dr. PAINE replied that the medical etiquette in such a case, corresponded with the order of the Poor Law Board, by which Mr. Edwards' duty was to have attended the woman up to the next meeting of the Board, and then to have laid the facts before them. No medical officer, without the permission of the Board, had a right to withdraw from the case, although the patient might be taking other medicine or receiving other visits, than his. A medical officer's duty was, like that of a reliev- ing officer, to carry out the orders of the Board but if he found his management of a case interfered with, he should complain to the Board. He (Dr. Paine) was just as anxious that the medical officers should do their duty, as that the relieving officers should do theirs. In this case therefore he should take the same course he had done in a recent complaint against a relieving officer, and move that the Poor Law Board be requested to inquire into the matters complained of. Mr. Owen, one of the parties referred to in Mr. Winby's letter, rose to speak, but Mr. R. O.JoNES hoped that the Board would not listen to addresses from outs-ide parties. They should either adopt the suggestion of Dr. Paine, or investigate the case by a committee of their own, or, if they considered the matter sufficiently clear, decide it at once. The CHAIRMAN did not see that any more facts could be elicited, as both sides had been heard. The question was whether they should remit the case to the Poor Law Board. He thought that as Mr. Edwards resumed at- tendance, the complaint did not need to be preferred before the Poor Law Board. He read a letter from Dr. Pearse, which Mr. Edwards bad just handed to him, in which the Dr. said I know nothing of the doctor who attends Mr. Winby's forge, but I told Furse to apply to his employers for the professional man with whom they had a contract. I made no reference to you (Mr. Ed- wards) as I did not think the case came under your care as parish doctor. I did not consider that the case in- volved her life at all." Mr. R. 0. JONES said that Mr. Edwards' explanation had not satisfied him of the propriety of ceasing atten- dance, nor of the delay in attending on the seoond order from Saturday to Sunday evening. These circumstances pointed to a certain amount of negligence on the part of Mr. Edwards, which the Board had a right to bo dis- satisfied with. Mr. Edwards said, he bad seen the woman on the Friday evening, and the case, as Dr. Pearse stated, did not involve danger at all. He did not receive the order until Saturday night too late to attend, and next day he went to see Mr. Alexander about it, and then round to visit his more urgent cases, until the afternoon, three or four o'clock, when he went in company with Dr. Pearse, to see the woman. In reply to Mr. E. EVANS, Mr. Owen stated that he did not give the woman any medieine when he visited her nor did he believe that his assistant gave her any. The Rev. V. SAULEZ stated that he visited the woman on Sunday week, and found her making great com- plaints She sent for him to administer the Sacrament. This day week she told him that Mr. Mousely had been in with Mr Winby, and found her very bad, and he had dropped a small powder on her tongue, which gave her great relief Mr. Edwards had visited the case this week, on Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday.: She had a swelling on her leg which broke on Tuesday, and Mr. Edwards bad attended her, very carefully dressing the leg with linseed, but yesterday morning she was without linseed, and Mr. Edwards gave her an ordier for some on Mr. Williams, the relieving officer, who refused to supply it. Mr. Williams, being inquired of, promptly contradicted this, saying that he had never been applied to for any- thing of the kind. The Rev. J. W. EVANS remarked that any subsequent attention on the' part of Mr. Edwards would not atone for his previous neglect. He seconded Dr. Paine's motion. On a show of hands, the CHAIRMAN declared Dr. Paine's motion lost. A division was called for, on Jwhich five voted for the motion, and nine against. Mr. E. EVANS said he had voted against Dr. IJaine s motion, but not because he was against inquiry into this case, which he regarded as a serious complaint. He moved that a select committee of the Board be ap- pointed to take evidence in the matter. This Board had already two or three requests before the Poor Law Board for inquiry, and they would become a byt-word in London if they kept sending cases there. Ther.e were men in this Board quite fit to conduct an inquiry pro- perly. Dr. PAINE said he only wanted a fair and full investi- gation, and though he should have preferred it to be conducted by a Poor Law Commissioner who could take evidence on oath, yet if the Beard preferred a committee of its own body, he had no objection, and would second the motion. The Rev. H. J. THOMAS said it must be admitted that Mr. Edwards had not in this matter conducted himself in the way that he ought, but had behaved very repre- hensibly toward the poor woman, and the excuses he made were of a rather meagre character, and the Board generally did not feel satisfied with his explanations. But as there was no additional evidence that could be given, he thought the Board were in a position to dispose ef the matter at once. The CHAIRMAN agreed with the last speaker, that an investigation could disclose no more than the Board were now in possession of, and therefore the matter could be now determined. If the Board thought it was such a serious matter that Mr. Edwards should resign, they could now call upon him to do so, or if they thought it a matter in which they would be satisfied with ad- monisbing him, they could take that course now. The Clerk thought the facts did not appear to vary much on either side. Mr. R. o. JONES remarked that the Board Ijiad not heard the statement of the hasband, or of the woman. The Rev. H. J. THOMAS moved, as an amendment, that the Board admonish Mr. Edwards for the neglect- he had been guilty of. The Key. V. SAVLEZ seconded the amendment.: On the votes being taken there were an equal number for the amendment and against it. The casting vote by the CHAIRMAN was given in favour of the amendment; on which the CHAIRMAN admonished Mr. Edwards accordingly, telling him that he felt strongly not only that he (Mr. Edwards) bad been very negligent, but that nothing could justify the expression he had employed to Mr. Winby. Mr. ALEXANDER moved that copies of the proceedings be forwarded to the Poor Law Board. The Clerk stated that a copy of the minutes and reso- lutions of the Board was always sent to the Inspector for the Poor Law Board. Dr. PAINE asked if it was true that relief bad been paid in Mr. Smith's district in the name of a pauper who had been dead for a long period. The CHAIRMAN said be believed it was true, and the matter should be inquired into. The Board then adjourned.
jCARDIFF TOWN COUNCIL.
CARDIFF TOWN COUNCIL. The Council held an adjourned meeting on Monday, the Mayor in the chair. The other members present, were Aldermen Pride and David, and Councillors Winstone, H. Bird, P. Bird, Whiffen, J. Bird, Jones, Ingledew, Heard, Clements, Todd, Evans and Boweo. The minutes of the last meeting were read and ap. proved. MR. WINSTONE AND MR. STELFOX. Mr, Stelfox, the contractor for raising sunken anchors, attended in consequeni e of notice having been given by Mr. Winstone of certain charges to be made against him, as reported in our last. Mr. WINSTONE proceeded to read several letters which embodied the charges against Mr. Stelfox, and the nature and terms which will appear in the course of the discussion. They were signed by the writers' marks, and not by signatures of the parties, and it was stated during the discussion, that they appeared to be in the hand- writing of the same person, though purporting to come not only from different persons but from distinct places. In the course of the reading, as it appeared that several of the matters mentioned were not within the jurisdiction of the Board, the MAYOR requested Mr. Winstone to bring forward only those allegations which it was in the power of the Corporation to deal with. Mr. WINSTONE If you think it the proper course to burke inquiry, I will read no further; but I will hand the letters over to such authorities, which it will be their duty to investigate them. I have no disposition to go any further, and press the matter with the Corporation. I have no wish to put Mr. Stelfox to any inconvenience, or subject himself to very heavy penalties, which it will be the duty of the public to make such inquiries, but l wish merely that we may be cautious which way we let our contracts. Mr. J. BIRD having suggested that copies of them should be sent to Mr. Stelfox, and that he should have a reasonable time allowed for giving a written answer to them, Mr. WINSTONE remarked that Mr. Stelfox was present, j and if he was innocent of the charges he should explain not merely those relating to this roadstead, for as the servant: of the Board he owed it to them to vindicate his character not only from the charges relating to this roadstead, but from the others. Mr. Stelfox stated that he was quite willing to allow the whole of the letters to be read, whether the charges related to Cardiff roadstead or elsewhere. He would prefer meeting the charges now, as he had no doubt he could satisfy the Board in respect to every one of them. The MAYOR thought it would be better to let Mr. Stelfox have a copy of the letters, and let him present a written answer at the next meeting. Mr. P. BIRD: Why not take his answer now ? Why leave a stigma hanging over him until September. If he can answer now, why delay the thing ? Mr. HEARD Then let Mr. Stelfox have the letters, and answer them now. Mr. Winstone: No. I keep the letters myself. They are my property. I am willing to give him a copy of them. Alderman DAVID: If Mr. Winstone brings written do- i cuments here, on which to found charges against one of our servants, those documents should be placed in the custody of the Corporation during the inquiry; and I move that we do not enter upon these charges, unless the letters are handed to the Mayor or the Town Clerk. Mr. WINSTONE: Then you do not enter upon the charges at all. I will hand them to another tribunal. Alderman DAVID Mr. Stelfox cannot be in a position to answer the charges if the letters are kept from him. Mr. WINSTONE On condition that I get them back, I will let the Mayor have them. Alderman DAVID: Whoever could have thought they would have been kept from you and not handed back. Mr. WINSTONE There is no knowing what chicanery will do. The MAYOR: Pass them up, Mr. Winstone. They shall be returned to you. The letters were then handed up, and the statements read by the Mayor seriatim to Mr. Stelfox. Thomas M'Duff, 180, Market-street, Penzance, dating April 15, 1866, wrote as follows :—" I can take my oath that the two anchors that was at the bows of Mr. Stel- fox's barque when she first sailed from Cardiff, was picked up in the Penarth roads, and should be given up to the Corporation of Cardiff. This happened in No. vember, 1854." Mr. Stelfox: I was not in the employ of the Corpora- tion in 1854. Mr. WINSTONE suggested that the date should have been 1864. Mr. Stelfox said, neither was he in the employ of the Corporation in 1864. The MAYOR Then that's disposed of. The next charge was by John Powell, 21, Margaret- street, Cardiff, as follows:—"I was formerly in the service of Edward Stelfox, as captain of the smack Thomas. I was with him about two years, and left his service four years ago last Good Friday. During that time on one occasion there was put on board the Dol. phin, a vessel belonging to George Fry, of Bristol, a quantity of anchors and chains. Stelfox had told us he would get a vessel from Bristol to take the anchors and bring them to Cardiff. On the Dolphin arriving at Car- diff, I and several other parties went on board, where we met Stelfox and/Hurley, who had come off from the pier in a boat. Stelfox sold the anchors to Hurley for £ 38. These anchors and chains we had picked up in Penarth roads, and afterwards put on board the Dolphin, in New- port river." The writer went on te state particulars of who comprised the crew at the time, their wages, &c. Mr, Stelfox said, the Royal Charter was wrecked in 1858, and he was employed to raise (the anchors and chains. He could not get them then, and they were buoyed, and he purchased them for £10. He raised them when he bad opportunity, and sold them, as stated, to Mr. Hurley, for XoS, which of course he had a right to do, they being his own property. The MAYOR: That disposes of that. Another statement, by Thomas McDuff, was as fol- lows A chain was picked up at Lundy by me, and de. livered into the pilot's office. I found it. It was sold to the corporation by Mr. Stelfox. It was an old chain, with 8 or 9 links. This was Nov. 1st, 18&5. It was from the wreck of the Matilda." Mr. Stelfox: That never did take place at all. I had fallen out with this McDuff, as Mr. Ingledew knows. He brought a law suit against me, but lost it, and ran away, and out of revenge he went to Mr. Gethin, Capt. Jones, and others, and made this charge; and I brought all the other men forward, and proved that the chain was never picked up at Lundy. This was the charge I expected Mr. Winstone was going to bring forward last year. McDuff could not get one witness, though he tried all the men in the vessel to persuade them to say that the chain was picked up at Lundy but they all said it was not, but in Cardiff roads. Capt. Jones, the harbour master, was called in and asked respecting the matter. He said that McDuff came to the yard with another man, and pointed out a chain which he said had belonged to the Matilda, and had been wrongly handed over to the corporation. It was a forty or fifty fathom chain. McDuff was drunk, and behaved so that he (Capt. Jones) ordered him out of the yard, and threatened to give him into custody. Mr. ELLIOTT said, a man of no character had come to the yard, and had accused his employer, who had lately discharged him, of handing to the corporation a chain belonging to the Matilda. The fact was that Mr. Stelfox had bought the chains of the Matilda: and it would have been much more profitable for him to keep them than to turn them over to the corporation at his contract price. The statement of the man was not rea- sonable. Mr. D. JONES said, the MatiHa was a blockade runner, a new ship; and she would not have had on board an old chain, such as the man described. Alderman DAVID said, not only so, but while the letter stated it was an old chain of eight or nine links, the chain pointed out by the man to Capt. Jones was one of forty or fifty fathoms. The next charge was as' follows CardiS, May 31st, 1866. I, William Price, having been in the employ of Edward Stelfox for two years, have picked up anchors within the above roads, and put them on Burton's vessel that trades between Cardiff, Bristol, and Newport. The captain's name is Lewis, and he is in Mr. Burton's em- ploy They were picked up in Cardiff roads, and were not delivered to the corporation of Cardiff. I will swear, to my knowledge, five at least were disposed of in this way. One was quite a new anchor, never shackled to a chain, having slipped overboard when delivered to*the ship.' I can prove, when a good anchor was picked up it is disposed of if te can get a customer, bat such ones as are of no use or can't sell, he puts in the corporation I yard. I can prove I picked up an anchor in King-road that was lost from the ship Roselle, and it has the ship's name on the anchor. We landed it at the Bute Dock pier head, and I have not seen it since. An anchor lost from an Austrian ship, close to the Cockburn buoy, with sixty fathom of chain, was sold to the captain of the Breeze, of Boston. I hereby make this statement to Mr. Winstone, knowing that what he has stated is quite correct, and I am willing to come forward and prove these and many more if required. I live in the bouse 35, North William-street, and am a cousin of William Price, the detective." Another statement by the same person was I can prove that a piece of chain, twenty- four fathoms, was picked up in Morecambe Bay, and sold to a Cardiff pilot, No. 22, and delivered out of Mr. Stelfox's vessel, Brothers. This anchor was taken to Stelfox's house." Mr. Stelfox: That was my own anchor and chain, which I had lost in the bay the winter before, while grappling there. Mr. TODD; We have nothing to do with anchors picked up in Morecambe bay, outside our roads. In regard to the other charges in Price's letter, Mr. Stelfox stated that if a ship slipped her anchor and went on to Bristol, or elsewhere, and he was employed to find the anchor, he found it cheaper to pat the anchor on board a trading vessel and send it to the port where the ship was lying, than to interrupt his own cruise by taking the anchor to the ship in bis own vessel. In regard to the anchor particularly mentioned, the captain of the vessel claimed it in Baistol, and paid him for finding it. While in Bristol he had to release this very man, Price, out of prison, and subsequently be dis- charged him in Cardiff, as he persisted in getting drunk. The man said he would make it worse for him (Mr. Stel- fox) if he was discharged. He then told him to go at once and do his worst. Mr. ELLIOTT mentioned that some of the anchors picked up and not given to the corporation, were pro- bably his, for he had employed Mr. Stelfox to pick up anchors which had been lost in the roads by vessels for which he was concerned, and Mr. Stelfox had done so, and handed the anchors to him, or delivered them at Newport or Bristol, as directed and very likely these were of the number which the last statement referred to. Mr. TODD stated that he also had employed Mr. Stel- fox to find anchors, and had received them from him. Mr. WINSTONE said that everyone knew Mr. Stelfox was employed to raise anchors by private parties; but if they sat here to hear every case of that kind, they would be here till to-morrow morning. Mr. ELLIOTT: And very proper that we should stay, if it be necessary to clear a man from unjust imputa- tions you have brought forward. Alderman DAVID pointed out that the letters were not signed by the parties from whom they purported to come, and that all, with perhaps one exception, were in the same handwriting. The MAYOR said he was satisfied with Mr. Stelfox's explanations, and he wished to know if the rest of the Board were also satisfied. Mr. WINSTONE said he was not. The man Price was ready to come forward and prove the charges. They had only Mr. Stelfox's own statement in contradiction. It seemed as if the inquiry was irksome to the Board, and that they did not wish to go on with it, as they ought to. Mr. HEARD said be had seconded the motion for an inquiry when so serious a charge was made by Mr. Winstone at the last meeting; but he was perfectly sa- tisfied with the explanation given, and be moved, That the charges made against Mr. Stelfox, referred to in the letters read by Mr. Winstone, having been in- vestigated by this meeting, the Council are of opinion that they have been satisfactorily answered." The fact of the charges was entered on the minutes of the last meeting, and therefore this resolution should appear also, to show that the matter had been cleared up. Mr. TODD seconded the motion, wnich was carried unanimously. Mr. J. BIRD. remarked that it must be apparent, even to Mr. Winstone, that the charge was disposed of. A discussion then took place in regard to the contract for raising anchors for the present season. Mr. Stelfox had sent in the only tender, but he demurred to a con- dition which the Board wished to impose, namely, that 35 per cent. of the amount of the contract should be re- tained in hand until the close of the contract. There was also a difference respecting the sinkers belonging to the Trinity Board, who would pay only X2 10s. a ton for them when recovered, while the Council, under the con- tract, would have to pay zC6 10s. a ton. Mr. ELLIOTT remarked that this contract was not like one for building a house, in which security was required. There was no payment made to the contractor until he delivered the anchors, and that was sufficient security in itself. Alderman PRIDE. suggested that the Board should give up the twenty-five per cent. end Mr. Stelfox agree to settle with the Trinity Board for raising the sinkers, instead of charging them to the Corporation with the anchors and chains. Mr. Stelfox expressed his willingness to agree to this, receiving the money every six weeks tor the anchors and chains be had raised meanwhile, and settling with the Trinity Board on his own account respecting the sinkers. Mr. WINSTONE advocated re-advertising the contract, saying that although there was na other tender before, there might be now that the Council agreed to pay promptly, without a 25;per ^cent. deduction until the close of the contract. Men of no capital would be enabled to come forward and tender under this arrange- ment. Mr. ELLIOTT And men of no principle, too. Alderman PRIDE said it would not do at all to have men of no capital taking this contract. If a captain gave information of the loss of an anchor in a particular spot, they might go and find it; butjthey would not make a business of sweeping the roads free from obstructions, as Mr. Stelfox did. On the motion of Alderman DAVID, seconded by Mr. TODD, the contract was granted to Mr. Stelfox on the conditions above-mentioned. DONATION TO THE SHIP HOSPITAL. Mr. J. BIRD, in renewing his motion for a grant of £ 250 to this hospital, made at the last meeting, advo- cated at some length the claims of the sailors upon the Corporation. He bad hoped, on making the motion last week, that it would have been promptly approved by all who felt an interest in the trade of Cardiff. The Cor- poration received large sums from the shipping, and should apply that money, at least to some extent, for the benefit of the sailors. When the impost was first attached to vessels, services were rendered by the Cor- poration which were nearly equivalent to the amount received. But circumstances were now altered; the ac. commodation required was provided by others, and the claims on the Corporation had dwindled, while the num- ber of vessels, and the amount of the fund received by the Corporation, had greatly increased. Hence, as he had shown last week from the Corporation accounts, the Corporation received from the shipping a sum of £2,000 a year beyond what it expended in harbour charges. Few opportunities bad arisen of their re-pay. ing to any extent the obligation they were thus under to the sailors and the shipping interest, but the pre- sent occasion, of making a contribution to the sailors' hospital, was one. fIt had been stated by Alderman Pride that two-thirds of the expenses of the police might be attributed to the shipping. He (Mr. Bird) did not consider this statement correct. Although the sup. port of the police in this town cost X2958 a year, in. eluding all the expenses, yet it did not cost the rate- payers of Cardiff a farthing. The shipping dues produced zC2000 a year, the Government grant amounted to £800, and the profit on the magisterial ex- penses amounted to zt444, thus forming a total of X1317 contributed to the town in a year, which was X300 more than the total cost of the police. Some of the police expenses, no doubt, were incurred in cannexion with the shipping ef the port, yet the judicial statistics showed that the usual proportion of police to population was one to 900; and leav- ing out the docks, the population of this town was sufficient to require the number of police comprised in the present force; so that if it were not for the ship- ping, the force would have to be maintained out of the ratepayers' pockets. Last week one of the members had expressed the opinion that sailors would not be inclined to resort to a ship hospital. He could not concur in such an opinion. A sick sailor would prefer the airy wards of a hospital ship to the confined forecastle of his vessel, or the miserable accommodation of a sailors' boarding-house, especially as he would have good at- tendance, and the best medical aid. Mr. Boyle, Capt. Johnson, a nautical man, and others who had interested themselvestin favour of this hospital, would not have done so if they had not well considered the objections to it, as well as the advantages, and been satisfied that it would work well. Nor would the Government have given the vessel, which had cost as much as ten hospi- tals on shore, without being perfectly satisfied that it was calculated to accomplish the object in view. These considerations were sufficient to outweigh the ill- formed opinions and hasty expressions of those who bad not well thought on the matter. He referred to the Dreadnought, at London, as an instance of a ship form- ing one of the best hospitals in the world; and hoped to see on this ship hospital the seme inscription as on that—" Hospital for seamen of all nations." The sum of X250 which he proposed, was less than the Council ought to give toward fitting up this hospital, but as £500 bad been raised, and the rest could be obtained from other sources, the Council were not expected to give more. They gave £ 25 a yew to the races, the ia. I terest on £500; £10 to the flcwer show, the interest on £ 200; and X50 to the Infirmary, the interest to £ 1000; while he proposed to give the ship hospital only L4250, the interest on which would be but 1-12 10s. a year. Mr. HEARD seconded the motion, and bcped it would be carried unanimously. Alderman PRIDE said he wished to refer to a remark made in the Gxiardian by some friend of his, who had been kind enough to cast an aspersion on him in conse- quence of what he had said on this subject at the last meeting. The remark was that he had said that at least two-thirds of the expenses of the police were rendered a necessary burden on the town by the shipping. He (Alderman Pride) had never made use of the word burden, nor bad he employed any language which war. ranted that expression being attributed to him. What he had said was, that two-thirds of the police expenses of the town could be fairly set against the shipping dues, and consequently the Corporation funds could not have benefitted, to the large extent which Mr. Bird bad esti- mated, from the presence of the sailors. He did not op- pose the grant, but merely rose to show that there was a consideration which Mr. Bird in his remarks had not appeared to take into account. Mr. Bird had now stated that the proportion of police required in a town was one to 900 people. The Guardian article stated that some years ago, before the Bute Doeks were built, Cardiff was a petty rural town. He (Alderman Pride) and Mr. Bird had resided here long enough to remember the period referred to. The town then had seven or eight thousand inhabitants, and yet one police officer was sufficient to do the duty. It was since the increase of the number of lailors frequenting the port, that the in- creased proportion of police to inhabitants had been found necessary. He (Alderman Pride) was therefore quite justified in remarking at the last meeting that a large amount of the shipping dues ought in fairness to be set against the increased expenditure for police. It was notorious that in every seaport town there were an enormous number of unfortunate girls, of whom there were very few in this town before the shipping became numerous; and a much large police force than the ordi- nary resident population would require, was needed in consequence of the presence of this class and their asso- ciates. !'he article in the Guardian was a mean and das- tardly attack on him. It was written by a friend of his, to gratify a little spleen. He knew the writer, who had imposed on the editor of the paper in procuring the in- sertion of the article. The writer was a servant of this Board. If he (Alderman Pride) had seen his remarks quoted and commented on in a gentlemanly way he would not have found fault; but as it was, he felt it due to himself to notice, the attack as he bad now done. Mr. EVANS said he thought the Board ought to be thankful to the gentlemen who had got the ship here, and who were fitting it up as a hospital for seamen. They had spent a good deal of money, and the Corpora- tion should give them encouragement and aid, for their enterprise would not only be a benefit to the sailors, but a protection to the population of the town against con. tagious disease. He remembered six or seven years ago the first case of the small-pox which then broke out here. It came into Stuart-street, from a ship, and thence spread through the town and remained here ten or eleven months. There were 150 deaths, and hun- dreds of our population suffered from the disease. Had there been a hospital ship here then, the first case would not have been brought into the town, and the deaths which happened from it would not have occurred. Last year we had another case of small-pox brought to Stu&rt-street from on board a ship. Persons from Whit- church and Llandaff took the disease by visiting there so that by having a hospital ship, we should protect not only the townspeople but the surrounding country from infection. He did not wish to dictate to the managers of ths ship, but he would suggest that all cases of dis- ease among sailors—cholera, small-pox, typhus fever, or any other occurring on board ship-should be brought to the ship hospital, where they could be taken without danger to the town or to the other patients. Instead of making room for forty or fifty beds, he hoped they would be content with preparing for thirty, which would enable the ship to be sooner ready for the recep- tion of patients, and would suffice for the wants of the port for three or four years to come. Mr. INGLEDEW observed that the Board could not get information as to whether the ship hospital was to admit cholera patients or not. Mr. BOWEK remarked that Dr. Paine was here last week, and heard it stated that cholera patients would not be admitted, and he did not deny the statement. Mr. EVANS stated that cholera patients were admitted on board the Dreadnought, or rather the successor of that vessel in the Thames. Alderman DAVID said that should contagion be brought into the town from cases on board ship, he should feel that he was responsible for it, if he veted against a proposal of this kind. He had this morning received a letter asking him to recommend a sailor for admission to the Infirmary, but the beds there were full; while, if this ship hospital was in operation, the case could be taken in there. The ship hospital was to be a dispensary also and many sailors who were suffer- ing from disease, while remaining at their lodgings. would, nevertheless, be enabled to obtain advice and medicines from the ship hospital. Mr. WINSTONE expressed the opinion that if this ship was to be a cholera hospital, the sum asked was far too small; but if not, it was quite as much as the Board ought to vote. Mr. P. BIRD said, that notwithstanding the excitable speech they had heard from the proposer of the grant, he was still of the same opinion that he had expressed at the last meeting. He did not care what the opinion of Mr. Boyle, Capt. Johnson, or Dr. Paine might be en the subject; but he had it from practical men that a ship was not the thing for a hospital for sailors. He defied the advocates of this project to name one seaport, except London, where they had their sailors' hospital in a ship. In London, they had a flowing river to carry the nuisance away; and that was very different from stationing this ship, as was proposed, close to Mr. Scott Russell's yard. They had heard much lately of the silt- ing of the channel; but this place involved the silting up of excrement and nuisance from the hospital ship upon our shore. The proper way to have a ship hospital was to build one such as Bristol had, not a thing of this sort, to which they were asked to vote £250. He would rather vote £500, or even more money, towards the erection of a proper hospital in a suitable place. This port was about to have new docks built and to become an important centre of commerce- it required a proper hospital, and for that the Council would be willing to vote a liberal sum. But this scheme proposed to have a ship for a hospital, out of the way of all conveniences. Where was it to have gas, hot and cold water baths, grounds for the recovering patients to walk in, and the many other features of a well ordered hospi- tal ? Were the convalescents to walk about the deck of a bulk, with all sorts of contagion raging in the confined space around them? There should be a spacious hospi- tal building erected on the East moors, with a liberal allowance of land fenced in around it, where the poor fellows as they were becoming convalescent could walk, and breathe the pure air, and see the land around, and the channel before them, with the ships sailing past; where they could, in a word, have proper air and exercise. His deliberate opinion was that all the money they might vote for this ship hospital scheme would be thrown away-and ultimately they would all have to admit that he was right. He would not vote against the grant, as the Board seemed to be in favour of it; but he knew the sentiment of sailors on the subject, which was that when a man went as a patient on board a ship hospital, he would never come out alive. As to the Dreadnought, she was not established as a London hospital, but as s point at which ships passing could leave their sick. The case of the Dreadnought was not to be compared with that of this High and Dry," or whatever it was called. If the Board wanted a precedent of what a hospital for a seaport should be, let them look to that in Bristol, at the top of Bathurst Basin. That was the sort of hospital we needed here, if we were to have one. Mr. ELLIOTT was pleased that an effort was being made to procure a hospital for sailors, and he wished it had been done before. At the same time he quite agreed with Mr. P. Bird, that a spacious building at a short distance from the town would be much more advantage- ous than this ship hospital. But it would cost six to ten thousand pounds to erect such a building and fit it up, and for some years to come he feared that no such hospital could be established. This ship cast but a small sum to fit up, and could be soon got to work as a hospital; and therefore he had subscribed towards it personally, and he should support this vote, having dur- ing the thirty years he had been connected with the commerce of the port, often seen the need of a sailors' hospital. The motion of Mr. J. Bird was then unanimously adopted. THE FLOWER SHOW. On motion of Alderman PRIDE, the usual annual grant of £ x0 was made to the Horticultural Society. The Council then adjourned to September 24. I
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SCICIDE BY AN OLD MAID. A very singular suicide has occurred near Bridgwater. An elderly maiden lady named Glynn, was left at home on Sunday afternoon while the rest of the inmates of her residence were at church. Miss Glynn appears to have divested herself of her outer clothing, and then set fire to herself. After running from room to room she rushed into the garden, where she was found by her friends on their return nearly dead. Before she expired she exclaimed I am mad!" but was unable to give an account of what had traa. spired,
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J filters to t\t ito. SUNDAY HUMANITY: THE LETTER CARRIERS. Sly.,—Though Englishmen vary very materially in their opinions on matters of religion, they are generally ready to unite in the common cause of humanity. Many plans have- been proposed to diminish the amount of Sunday labour in the Post-office department through the provinces, but hitherto without any satisfactory result. I beg to sugges? that an envelope of a peculiar colour—as easily distinguished by gas-light as day-light—to be called "the'Sunday enve- lope," be stamped with a twopenny Government stamp tbe: colour of the envelope, whether bright crimson, orange, blue, or other colour, should be selected in reference to its distinctive appearance, so that the Sunday envelopes could be easily sorted out of the mass of letters by any one in a few minutes, and dispatched, the remainder of the letters lyillg till Mon' day morning. Should the number of letters" not be mate- rially reduced in any particular district by the proposed arrangement, the additional penny stamp "would pay for another letter carrier, leaving the six-day letter carrier the Sunday to himself.—Yours, &:c., MATTHEW STOW. Sneyd Park, near Bristol, 18th Aug.. 18S6. ALDERMAN PRIDE AND THE GUARDIAN. SIR,—An observation casually made by Alderman Prid,. at a recent meeting of our Town Council has drawn from a writer, to whom the columns of the Guardian were thrown open, a most intemperate attack upon that gentleman, in which it is difficult to say whether impudence or ignorance predominates. It appears that Mr. John Bird, in applying to the Council for a grant of public money towards the Seamen's Hospital ship, said that this town derived £ 2118 from shipping and expended only £29¡j in harbour charges. This statement, as we all know, was an inaccuracy and Mr. Pride corrected it by saying that the comparatively small sum named bv Mr.. Bird did not represent the whole of the outlay, for at least two-thirds of the cost of the police might fairiv be attached to the shipping. He was not opposed to the sum which Mr. Bird had named being given to the hospital ship, but he did object to incorrect statements being made as to expenditure of money received from the shipping." To this very proper interposition the Guardian takes ex. c-eption and in its anger exudes a tissue of personalities and absurdities which no one could have written who had regard for decency, or who was at all acquainted with the circuir. stances with which an attempt was made to deal. Mr. Pride may have been too hasty in saying that two-thirds of the police were rendered necessary by the shipping but there- is no question that at least one-half of the present force might be dispensed with if it were not for the turbulent cha racter of the sea-faring population and their associates How often do we find Bute-street almost in the possession of reckless men going off in gangs to join their respective ships, accompanied by shameless women to the water's edge. Daily do we see eight, ten, or fifteen men marching down in com- pact bodies, singing, hooting, and pushing as they go along, —sweeping the footpath of all who obstruct them. Fifty policemen would not check this drunken violence; and it is generally found most advisable to allow seamen and associ ates so proceeding to pass unchallenged. But what would become of us if we had Dot our police force in the back ground ready to act if required ? The statement in the Ch-iardian that to a town with the same amount of popula- tion as Cardiff, the usual proportion is about one policeman to a thousand," is simply absurd. The strength of a force is regulated by the social elements with which it has to deal. Cardiff in its infancy had only one constable to about 7000' inhabitants: but now, when we have daily the arrival of large numbers of men, with money to spend and vile com panions- to encourage them in the commission of the most atrocious abominations, and when also bodies of men daily leave for sea, frantic with drink and goaded by evil assoct ates, who feed upon the vices of their dupes,'the town re- quires a very much greater force for its protection than, it the inhabitants generally were persons who felt the restraints of home and the civilizing influences of moral and religious training. To pay this force, then, the authorities very justly apply the funds received from shipping. Our Town Council contains a few members who devote much of their time to the management of our local affairs (th-* best members are not those who make the most noise)-aud as one of. the few has been assailed by a paper calling itself Conservative, I venture to solicit from you, Sir, the favour of the insertion of this letter. 22nd August, 1866. NEMESIS
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||t arrets. LONDON CORN MARKET.—MONDAY. There were further large arrivals of foreign oats, wheat, and maize last week. There was a moderate show of sample* of wheat this morning from Essex and Kent, a large pro- portion being new white, averaging about 621b. per bushel,. condition better than expected, but some rather damp. The trade was dull for old, and new sold at fully 28. per qr. less than the first made prices. In foreign very little was doing,. thoagh only held at the previous rates. Norfolks were held at the previous currency, with but little business doing, French and American were but in little request. Town prices were unchanged, 50s. still being the top quotation. A little new barley appeared, of fair quality; grinding an,} distilling foreign were about Is. per qr. dearer, the exports from the Danube being stopped. In malt but little WM- passing, at unaltered prices. The prohibition of the ex port of maize in the Principalities has hardened its value le- per qr. The continued heavy arrivals of oats made sale* difficult of low sorts, at fully 6d. per qr. reduction, especially on imports from Russia. The business in beans was limited at previous rates. CUBEENT PRICES OF BIIITRSH GBAIt AXD FLOCH 1,4 MARK-LAKE. Shillings per Qr Shilling per Qr. Wheat-Essex and Oats-Scotch feed .20 — 26 Kent, white new. 43 to 55 Scotch potato 25 30 Ditto, red new, 42 49 Irish feed, white. 18 21 Norfolk, Lincoln- Ditto, fine.22 26 shire, < £ r Yorksh., Ditto, black ..18—20 red, new. 42 49 Potato .23—27 Barley .30 — 34 Beans—Mazacran 41 43 Chevalier.38—42 Ticks .40—43 Grinding .28 — 31 Harrow .43 46. Distilling .33 — 37 Pigeon 45 — 491 Malt-Essex. Nor- Peas-Whiteboilers 38 41 folk, and Suffolk, Molple. 39 41 new.59 — 68 Gray 36 37 Kingston, Ware, Flour.-Town hotlSt, and town-made holds, per sack cf new, 59 66 2FSOlbs .47 5$ Brown, new ..52 — 56 Country .36—37 Rye—New 25 28 Households ..39 43> Oats—English feed 20 — 25 Norfolk and Sllf. English potato.. 24 30 folk on shore ,.lo — 36 WEDNESDAY. The arrival? of English grain and foreign bar ay havjr been very small, of foreign wheat good, and large of oata. There was the usual attendance at this morning's market but the business done was unimportant, at Mondays quO: tations for all articles excepting oats, to effect sales ol which 6d. per quarter decline had to be submitted to. METROPOLITAN CATTLE MARKET.—Mo!CAt. Beef of choice quality maintained its prices to-day 001 middling and inferior, cf which there wut a large sippl* declined as much as 4d. per stone, and even at this redictiojj sales were difficult y effect. The mutton trade was leavy and for coarse and inferior breeds lower rates were accepted* There was no alteration in the veal trade from last Thurs- day's quotations. In the pig market there was very little business doing. Statement of Prices, per stone, Monday. Beef Ss. Sd. 5s. 8d. Pork 3s. Od. 4s. 104, Mutton 4s. Od. 6s. Od. ^Lamb 6s. Od 8s Grf Veal 4s. Od. 5s. 6d. LIVERPOOL CATTLE MARKET.—MONDAY The arrivals of cattle during the week amounted to 3 509. of sheep, 16,000. The demand good for cattle at full prices^ except for some midling and inferior qualities, which sold 18wCli. Sheep and lambs ill good demar.d at higher pricee Beef 6fd. to 8id. Mutton. 7d. to 8fd. Lamb. Std. to 1M. I HOP MARKET.—MONDAY. At present, with so fluctuating and uncertain a growth ae hops; only an approximate estimate can be formed of the coming crops. The season is backward, therefore it is at- tended with greater risk. The number of acres under cultivation and in a bearing state may fairly be taken as full 60,000, which, with an average produce of Scwt. an acre would give a crop equal to about £ 240,000 duty. The Worcester district seems past any important recovery, and must fall short. The low temperature we had during the earlier part of this month has prevailed in Bavaria and Alost, and greatly retarded the growth, but accounts from those important places now speak of decided improvement. From • advices state the American crop is looking well, with the probability of a surplus for exportation. The. foreign markets are all barely supplied, and full prices are obtained. Our own market is fairly supplied for the season Prices from 95s. to 126s. per cwt.; some choice lots are still- held for much higher figures.
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