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A Sensible Temperance Speech.

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'ISCAUTIS WELL VENTILATED. Effective Address by Mr. E. Waddington. Swansea Socialists in Form. :\ND SOME POINTED POSERS ENSUE The public debate on the nation's fiscal policy, at the Swansea Shaftesbury Hall, on Monday night proved in every respect a "puhJic" one. If ever the subject received ventiiiition it did then. MT. E. Waddington, F.N.S., of Cardiff, a well-known Impemal- ist orator, was the speaker, and on ascending the platform, he was very warmly greeted. Mr. A. P. Steeds presided, and was supported by Councillors David Davies, J. Oaidswalladr, and T. T. Corker, and MessHi. J. R. Leaver, Fred Waddington, a.nd J. P. Daviee. Before the opering of the debate, Mr. F. Waddmg- ton read a letter from Mr. A. F. Eden, who was to have been the original cliairman, but, as the letter stated, had beexi "detain* by most important business," but which urged those present "to realise that England and her Cl loriies are a great Empire equal. im oil respects to America or any otllier foreign country, and that to discuss the fiscal ques- tion a. if Great Britain was a small country of manufacturers was to stt.1di on a wrong wt.-is." Mr. A P. Steeds, in introducing the lec- turer, said they might be aware that he had just returned from a hour through Canada. No one could fail to be impressed, a.s he was, with the boundles6 possibilities of that colony. The difficulties of the fiscal problem. were admitted, but they should be manfully grappled with. (Obeers.) Mr. E. Waddington, heartily greeted, said tliat Free Trade was free imports a-nid free exports, but the present interpretation was a misuse of the English language. (Hear, heiar.) Henry George, the great American, put it: "England does not enjoy Free Trade —having a tariff for revenue purposes was not Free Trade." Mr. Waddington ait-o quoted Siir W. J. Fa nan and John Richard Green 111 support oi. the contention that the country's shipping owed its inception of prosperity to Protection and not to Free Tnlde. Emrgni- tion was a good test of piospailty, and whilst in 1846 (under Protection) the figures wer« 98,000, under Free Trade they hud risem tJ 258.000 a. year. ("Slliatne.") Pliiui>eri»sm, the criminal, disease and death-rates had also risen correspondingly. Free Trade had not only not increased national 4 rosperity—it had re- tarded it. The lecturer then tra ed the alarm- ing decrease in our exports of manufactured steel, a diminution which was as marked is other industries. He had read to cUy in the "Daily Pest" i.lia.1 tlhera was nc-'w teing dis- changed at t.he Swansea docks 2,000 tons of German tinpiate bars. ("Sihame.") Alluaitig to tinplaies, he also pointed out tljvt, whilst tlh^ trade had certainly undergone a sort of revival, it was because our colonies had c me to the rescue. (Applause.) In two years oar exports of tinplates to them had doubled. Mr. John Hodge, only twelve months before, at Swainseo, had advocated the posing of a Bill to stop dumping. How had he arrived at his present changed attitude? Because u. great number of Labour leaders had become the tools of the Liberal party. ("No" and "Prove '"t.") "I roily provo more than yoa core for, commented Mr. Waddington amid I cheers, and he continued that it was aboard to talk of Free Trade while they imported so many millions of manufactured goods yearly, which Britishers could well make theimselvee. Would not any of his Ijibour friends present refuse to work on foreign windows or wuo<]- wolk, or decline to work with foreign la- bour? And wa.s not that "dumping" which they saw no harm in? (Loud cheers.) Mr. W ad ding'on concluded a fighting speech by exclaiming: 'Tt is humiliating that we shoudd own that we dependent on cur fooa sutp- plies to foreign •oiwitries—that we should grovel at their feet. Let us get cur graitn from our Colonies and admirt it free let lis combine in one groat scheme of ImperÚd fedeir.itio:: frrr the prosperity of the whole people." sL< ud applause). The Chairman then invited questions, which were not slow in coming. One gentleman asked whether the ex pons per head of the Untied Kingdom had not in- creased since 1885 whether savings-bank de- posits had not increased, and if flour was not dearer in France than in England. It wa^ also asked whether Canadi. was not threaten- ing to swamip us with her wheat growing. INIr. Waddington alluded to the queries êl.:< emanating from a. Cobden Club pamphlet, a.bod disposed of themi by saying that experts and savings-bank deposits of other countries bad tticreut-ed at a much greater ratio than ours, and that bread in France was no dearer than in this country. I Further questions from Messrs. Paul Coclts, M. Giles, and otliers, the Socialist element being in fotoe, denlt with pauperism ytatistias and the cost of living in other counftritS. Mr. Waddington ably anisTvered both, quoting t.he report of the Motley Commission in support I of his contention that wages in the States were twice as hl'gh as here, arnd t'fce ca^t of living only slightly higher in proportion. Questions now cairoo thick and fast, but f. 1-1 as they came the lecturer was never caught napping, and his rejoinder to one queLT tbiut Sir John Jones Jenkins was no present authority on the tinpiate trade evoked muLÚ appr.ob;vt.ion. Mi1. Giles had evidently come primed with oratory and inquisitivfiiess, antd1 he rose several times, wtiren Lieut. L. P. Coward wished to address the meeting. Eventually M'r. Giles got exlvausted, and Mr. Cowiird rose and bore out the lecturer's con- tentions from personal knowledge that bread in Fra.nce was no dearer thrn in England. He also drew an effective illustration of the "joys" of Free Trade by referring to a due oaigo of Russian grain, and asking questions thereon, which the lecturer answered satis- factorily. Mr. Giles then attired the audii- ence tbjAt he and his friends were in no way in sympathy with the Liberals, and did not believe that "all was well." (Cheeis.) Councillor David Da'ies tfuen addressed the njeeting. He would ask one ques- tion. and that was. that if, according to Mr. Giles' argument, the foreigners bought from us only alS they sold to us, how was it tint the enormous decrease of our exports to the States following on the McKinley tariffs was accompanied by a corresponding iiK'nease in o'ur imports frotn them? Why did they diminish their purchases and increase their sales? (Loud cheors.) Mr. Davies. after citiliiig the inferior quality of t,heo German- made electrical machinery on the Strand, alluded to the great change coming over the opinion of the nation. On the Swansea Coun- cil—'the great majority Liberal-;—it Laid been urwuiimoi'slv resolved to give prefertiice to British-made material for the tramway ex- tensions. (Loud a^/plau-e.) IMr. Dltvi-cs then fee*lmvgly referred to the steel depression at Landore. The dumping cf the 2,u30 to>i!s of German bars already alluded to meant a less in wages of £ 4,000, and hundreds of men were out of work. Where were the theoretical benefits of dumping. (Hear, he-air.) He de- fied anyone there to indicate where we bene- fited by that system. (Hear, hair.) By tiJ-e fritialiifishment of the tinpiate industry in the States we were sending away cur most precious oxpoiit—manhood and womanhood of our country—a community equalling the popu- lation of Cardiff and Swansea had gone from cur mddst. ("Shume.") Mr. Davies con eluded with an eloquent appeal not to re- linquish the precilcus heritage of colony, and proposed a vote of thanks to the lecturer, which IMr. Paul Cocks, on the other side, gracefully seconded in a manly little spcech. M-r. J." R. Davies briefly spoke, and gave some toints an shipping, and a highly suc- cessful and very well-attended anid represen- tative meeting ended. i


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