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April 9, 1873.


April 9, 1873. NOTES. r>Pi WYS ANN —There stands in a secluded spot ..ortlfif th. to- £ B«XrStPw^ the ruins of an old church called Eglwys Ann—bt. Ann s Church supposed to have been standing, or perhaps built, in the time of King Offa; the cross beam which was be- tween the chancel and the body of the church, is now used as a beam across the chimney of a farm-house called Tynant; and the oak couples which supported it are in the barn of Berthlafawr, in the aame parish of Llanfor.—R. INSCRIPTION IN A WELSH CHURCH.—In The Mirror, Sep. 15, 1827, the following singular inscrip- tion is said to be written over the Ten Commandments in ) a Church in Wales PRSVRYPRFCTMN VRKPTHSPRCPTSTN The meaning is explained in the serial quoted, but the locality is not given. All you have to do is to add the vowel 4 E,' where wanting, and you have- Persevere ye perfect men Ever keep these precepts ten.—TAFFY. QUERIES. BALA BELL.—It is a common saying, in a wider circle than the immediate neighbourhood of Llyn Tegid, when anything is set up firm ud ship-shape, There it is as fast as Bala Bell." What is the origin of the ex- pression ?—R. E. [Under the heading of Welsh Proverbs EDEIRNION, Apr. 10 1872, asked a similar question. The proverb he gave as follows Cyn sadied a chlcch y Bala." We would reter such of our readers as have the reprint of Bye-gones t'J this and the other proverb given at the time, in the hope that a reply may yet be forwarded.-ED. Bye-gonf iz). BOROUGH OF SHREWSBURY.—1. Who was mavor of Shrewsbury in 1740? 2. Among those returned to the Parliament of 1361, 35th Edw. III., was Agnes, Comtesse de Pembrook: can you give me any particulars about this lady? -C. W. P. BEIBL I BAWB 0 BOBL Y BYD.—Who is the author of the famous line- Beibl i bawb o bobl y Byd," the Welsh motto of the British and Foreign Bible Society ? It is a famili-irline to the ears of every Welshman; but its origin is not so well known.—BKKWYN. THE REV. PETER ROBERTS.—More than one writer in Bye-gones has affirmed that the History of Oswestry, published by Price, in 1815, was written by Richard Minshuil, an eccentric printer, who was a well-known lampooner and satirist of Oswestriana, forty years ago. Minshull was a bit of an antiquary and quite capable of writing local history. But I observe the Rev. R. Williams, in his Eminent Welsh- men, states that the Rev. Peter Roberts" wrote the History of Oswestry, which was published, without his name, in 1815." Now in confirmation of the fact that Minshuil had the etiief hand in the work, I can only give what I heard when I was a boy, unless a passage in Parry's Royal Pro, presses in Wales may be taken ,s evdence. In that bo -k it is stated that when the Princess Victoria and the Duchess of Kent passed through Oswestry, on their way from Powis Castle to Wynnstay, in 1832, The History of Osxcestry, compiled by Mr Minshull, was presented to them as they sat in the carriage, and was most gra- ciously accepted" Old Oswentrians will remember that on the strength of this presentation the late Mr Price, the elder, placed over his book shop the Royal Arms. Is there anyone living who can remember how far Minsbull and how far the Rev. Peter Roberts had a hand in the book ? I also iiate that the Rev. R. Williams states that the Rev. Peter Roberts's friends in Oswestry published an engraved por- trait of him by subscription, which is considered an admir- able likeness." Are any of these portraits extant ?-JARCO. REPLIES. WILSON'S PARENTS (Dec. 11, 1872, Mar. 5, 1873).-A Hugh Wilson was Vicar of Trefeglwys in the year 1677, but he was a persecutor of the Quakers, for in that year he and Isaac Lloyd priest of Llanidloes, gave information of a meeting at the house of John Jarman, at Llanidloes, in Montgomeryshire, upon which the Mayor with constables came thither and committed seven of the assembly to prison, and fined others, who had their cattle seized for their fines." This appears to have been one of the usual ways of punishing members of the unoffending sect, as other instances are given in the Life of Richard Davies, pp. 87—95. The Wilsons of Trefeglwys occupied a highly respectable position in that parish, and were by marriige connected with some of the leading families in the district. Maurice Lewys, son of Lodovick Lewys, of Pen y-Castell (a descendant through Meredydd Benwyn, of Brochwel Ycgvthrog, Prince of Powys) married Elizabeth, daughter and sole heir of Richard Wilson ab John Wilson, and her son, Lodovick Lewis, of Dolgwenith (probablv one of the commissioners mentioned, Montgomeryshire Col- lections ii., 348) was by his wife Mary, daughter of John Pryse, of Park, and sister of Matthew Pryse, M.P. for Montgomeryshire boroughs, father ef three co-heirs (1) Mary, the wife of Robert Ingram, of Glynhafren, (2) Eliza- thd wifp of Rbvs Williams, of Ystym Colwyn, and Trefeglwys, and some of its members were married to WIISODS, thus Morris Bowen (ab Thomas ab Evan) married Jane, daughter of Wilson, and his brother Evan married Elizabeth, daughter of Robert Wilson, of Tref- eglwys. -REMAH, I MORUS KYFFIN.-(Nov. 20, 1872)—Nant-fs- Colion.-There is a slight error in the orthography of the above as printed in your columml as also in the notice of its author by Gwallter Mechain in the Cambro- I'riton, vol. i., p. 385. Instead of Nantyecolion or Nant yr yscolion (the chasm of the schools) it should be written Nant-is- colion, from the fact that four sheepwalks meet at a point locally called Colion. The boundary mark—a 1are stone —is just above the chasm. Hence the falls are is or below the Colion. These sheepwalks belong severally to Ystrad, Cwmcalch ucha and is*, in the parish of Llanbrynmair.— BORDERER. GUTYN OWAIN (Mar. 19, 1873).—Amongst the Hengwrt MSS. (No. 113), is a collection of Welsh pedi- grees, entirely in the autograph of Orutyn Owam, written, if not all, nearly all, in the reign of Henry VI. In the same collection are sevyftl poems of his composing, but not in his band. There is al-o, in Hengwrt MS., No. 333, a translation, by "John Trevor," of a life of S. Martin. written by Gutyn Owain, in 1488. One of the poems by him, amongst the Herlgwrt MSS., is an elegy upon the death of Thomas Salusbury. of Lleweny, who, if 1 do not read it incorrectly, and I think I do not, died in 1490 How- ever. I have a most imperfect knowledge of our old Welsh, and quite as little of our modern patois. But I should mention that, if Burke's Baronetage is to be trusted, the Thomas Salusbury, upon whose death Gutyn wrote an elegy, was slain at the battle of Barnet in 1471. However, I am inclined to think that Gutyn Owain did not live long after the years 1490 or 1491.—W. THE HILL FAMILY (Aug. 14, Sep. 25, 1872) Sir Rowland Hill, of Post-office fame, was one of the sons of Mr T. w. Hill, who, with the assistance of his sons, con- ducted_ a large school at Hazelwood, near Birmingham. In 182o the famdy published a book called Public Educa- tion pbns for the government and liberal instruction of boys in large numbers, as practised at Hazelwood School." A branch school was established at Bruce Castle, Totten- ham, near London, to which, in 1833, the whole family migrated from Hazelwood, and many pupils (including th^ writer) accompanied them. In 1833, Rowland Hill, as well as his brothers Arthur and Frederick, and another brother, at-sisted in carrying on the rchool, which was a very large and successful one. It is row carried on by the nephews of Rowland Hill and sons of Arthur Hill, at Bruce Castle.— AN OLD PUPIL. [We suppose Murray, in his Handbook to Shropshire, is quite wrong when he c -nnects the above Hills with the Hd^ykestoDe fdmily.-ED Byr-gones.] YEW TREES IN WALES (Nov. 1, 1871). There is a group of noble patriarchs growing in Llangad caladr churchyard; the circumference of the largest, four feet from the ground, is twenty-one feet, that of two others seventeen feet five inches each. I was told that a still larger one was destroyed a few years since by a foolish at- tempt to smoke out a swarm of bees that had made their nest in the hoFow trunk —S. C. TOM PIERCE, THE SHROPSHIRE GIANT ("uly 10, 1872).-Tom Pearce (or Pierce as his name ued to be spelt on the bills) died at Tranmere in May, 1858, aged 43. His death was sudden, and an inquest was held, during the course of which the widow who "deplored his loss" was performing outside their booth io the lair. When quite young poor Tom was sent to a Lancasterian school in Oswestrv, established by the Rev. J. Whitridge, minister of the Old Chapel, but the cupidity "f his father fru-trated all efforts in this direction, ard he was turned into a sbow.JABCO. EPIT\PHS (Feb 2G, 1873).—The following rather quaint epitaphs are to be seen in the churchyard of Carno, Montgomeryshire. They are scarcely decipherable, owing partly of course to age, but more so to the sad neglect and want of attention to the preservation and neatness of the tombstont ?, which in Carno, as well as in most other Webh ehurcby-inis. I observe with regret. In memory of John Bebb, who died June 23rd, 1809. Df ath billeted me here Some time for to remain, And when the trumpet sounds I'll rise and march again. In memory of Richard Pughe, who died June, 1806. titny.reader, stay; rem >ve not from this tomb Until thou hast c, nsi,?ci-'d well thy doom Death's b .w isieady bint (if thou could'st see) Death's arrows drawn, perhaps to aim at thte. yndemea'h this Ft -ne es the body of Evan Pug-h, who lcnn °''r0T|ical abscess in his right shoulder, Dec. 6th, JS19, agt-d 15. HXVMw1 ^B'ge of Life, my lot it fell for me, 't o exeroi^L ^ents » <Wier for to be. 'I ill Death bv IT™6 1 far an'l near, here. Is jas; mortal stroke consiii'td me silent Also one of m dem daf* „ „ who died in 1858. r the rtmams of E™n Evans, We shall all die. I hhall we all die ? Westiull die all Lie we alllilhall: M. T.












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