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The following communications were read at a meeting of the Geological Society, on Februrry 5th. "On the Occurrence of Pebbles with Upper-Ludlow Fossils in thi- Lower Carboniferous Conglomerates of North Wales/ by Messrs. A. Strahan and A. O. Walker,—" On a New Group of Pre-Cambrian Rocks, (the Arvonian) in Pem- brokeshire," by Dr. H. Hicks, with an Appendix on their Microscopic Structure by Mr. 1. Davies,—"On the Pre- Cambrian (Dimetian, Arvonian, aud Pebidian) Rocks of Carnarvonshire and Anglesey," by Dr. H. Hicks, with an Appendix on their Microscopic Structure by the Rev. Prof. T. G. Bonney,—" On the Quartz-felsite and Associ- ated Rocks at the Base of the Cambrian Series in North- Western Carnarvonshire,' by the Rev. Prof. T. G. Bonney. —and On the Metamorgfcic Series between Twt Hill, Carvarvon and Port Dinorwic,' by the Rev. Prof. T. G. Bonney and Mr. F. T. S. Houghton, NORTH CARDIGANSHIRE AGRICULTURAL SOCIETY, An adjourned meeting of the North Cardiganshire Society was held on Monday afternoon, February 17, when there were present—Mr. Lewis Pugh Pugh, pre- sident, Sir Pryse Pryse, Bart., Gogerddan, Mr. G. G. Williams, Wallog, Captain Cosens, Cwm, Mr. H. C. Fryer, Lodge Park, Mr. R. Gardiner, Birch Grove, Mr. Lewis Williams, Abermaide, Mr. Morris Davies, Ffos- rhydgaled, Mr. Vaughan Davies, Tanybwlch, Mr. John Roberts, Lion Hotel, Mr. John Edwards, Mr. Evan Jones, Nantseiriol, Mr. Thomas Jenkins, Mr. T. Garner, confectioner, Mr. John Rowlands, Brysgaga, Mr. James Jones, Piercefield, and Mr. Wm. Morgan, clerk. The PRESIDENT stated that the first question to be brought before the meeting was the formation of Com- mittees. Mr. FRYER said he intended to bring that subject before the meeting. The General Committee consisted of thirty members. His proposal was to substitute that General Committee by Local Committees in order to get the different districts better worked and looked after for sub- scriptions than in the past. He therefore proposed that the General Committee of Management consist of thirty yearly subscribers of not less than 21s. to the Society that such committee be distributed into six local sub- committees, of residents in the various districts of the Society and that the President, vice-Presideut, and all unpaid officers of the Society, be ex-officio members of the General Committee and of the local committees of the district wherein they respectively reside. Mr. Fryer then went on to specify the six districts into which he proposed the Society's district should be divided. The Aberyst- wyth district would include Aberystwyth, the two Vay- nors, Ucha' and Issayndre; the Rheidol or Llanbadarn district Trefeirig up to the Rheidol the Ystwyth district: Llanilar to Llanfihangel; the liar district: Llanbadarn Lower to Llanrhystyd; the Machynlleth district, including Machynlleth and Scyborycoed; and the Geneu-rglyn district from Clarach to Llancynfenn. Sir PRYSE PRYSE was in favour of allowing the General Committee to remain as it had been hitherto, and that each district should form its own committee, without re- gard to qualification. Mr. FRYER said the meeting might leave the qualifying subscription out of his proposition. In the course of an irregular conversation, Mr. LEWIS WILLIAMS remarked that some farmers from the lower district only exhibited their animals at the show, but did not take any trouble to collect subscriptions from their district. One man, he knew, entered his bull first and paid his subscription afterwards. Mr. G. G. WILLIAMS asked if the local committees would be independent of, or whether they would be merged in the general committee ? # The CHAIRMAN replied that the sub-committees would merge in the general committee. Mr. G. G. WILLIAMS said he gathered from the con- versation at the lower end of the table, that the speakers there desired that no one should be allowed to act on the sub-committees unless they subscribed 10s. 6d. to the Society's fund. „ Mr. LEWIS WILLIAMS added that they also said that the subscriptions should be raised from 5s. to 10s. Mr. FRYER'S proposal was then amended and made to read as follows, in which form it was agreed to That the general committee of management consist of 30 yearly subscribers, of not less than 21s., to the Society; that such committee be distributed into six local sub-committees of residents in the various districts )f the Society, each sub- committee to have power to add to its numbers from the members of the Society and that the president, vice- presidents, and all unpaid officers of the Society be ex- P' officio members of the general committee, and of the local committees of the districts wherein they respectively reside. The districts were next arranged as follows :—Aber- ystwyth Aberystwyth, two Vaynors, Ucha and Issa- yndre Rheidol: Trefeirig, Parcel Canol, Melindwr, Cwmrheidol, and Llanbadarn Lower; Ystwyth Llanilar Ucha, Llanafan, Llanfihangel Upper and Lower, Rhostie, Lledrod, and to the South liar: Llanbadarn Lower, Llanychaiarn, Llanilar Issa, Llandeinol, Llangwyryfon, two Llanrhystyds, and district south; Machynlleth Machynlleth and Scyborycoed and Geneur'glyn Bron- castellan, Clarach, Cyfoethybrenin, Henllys, Llancyn- felin, Ceulan, Cynyllmawr, Elerch, and iyrymynach. The following gentlemen were appointed on the general committee of management:—Messrs. John Baker, Rhydy- penau; William Bebb, Cricklas; William Cotterell, Derry Ormond; John Edwards, Rhiwarthen Ucha; James Edwards, Blaeudyffryn Issa; Morgan Edwards, Bwlcheinion; Richard Gillart, Machynlleth; William Hughes, Morfa Mawr; Richard James, Brynllys Abra- ham James, Glanfread; Richard Jenkins, Henhafod; Jenkin Jenkins, Blaenphvyf; Walter Jenkins, Glanwern; Morgan Jones, Ynysfach; Richard Jones, Nantcellan- fawr Thomas Jones, Bryncastell; J. R. Jones, Talbot Hotel; Richard Jones, Nanteos; David Lewis, Black Lion; James Morgan, Pwlly; Edward Morgan, Mach- ynlleth T. Morgan, Nantrhyd; Capt. John Paull, Cefn- brwyno; J. P. V. Pryce, Bwlchbychan; George Price, Tan'rallt; J. R. Richards, Broginin; David Richards, Dolfor; Evan Richards, Home Farm, Nanteos; John Rowlands, Brysgaga John Roberts, Lion Hotel. The PRESIDENT said the next question was that of qualification. He thought that it was a good suggestion thrown out at the last meeting to raise Class B from 103. to 15s., and Class C from 5s. to 10s. 6d. Mr. LEWIS WILLIAMS proposed that the lowest sub- scription to the funds of the Society should be 10s. 6d. Mr. G. G. WILLIAMS remarked that that would come very hard upon a man who had only a cock and two hens to show. Mr. LEWIS WILLIAMS replied that that man would get 2s. 6d. worth of tickets as well as his chance of getting a prize. Mr. JOHN ROBERTS, Lion Hotel, seconded the propo- sition. The PRESIDENT remarked that the only question was what would be most beneficial to the Society. At present the Society got 228 from 5s. subscribers. The Society would not lose if they got half the number of 10s. sub- scribers. Mr. MORRIS DAVIES proposed an amendment, that the qualifying subscriptions should remain as they were. Sir PRYSE PRYSE seconded the amendment. The PRESIDENT remarked that the 5s. subscribers were last year able to compete for;2108 5s. They could enter in three classes in fact, in all the classes except A and B. Mr. FRYER observed that the competitor in Class C was better than the man in Class B, for he had fewer com- petitors. The President then put the question to the meeting, when the amendment was carried by a large majority. The PRESIDENT said he should like to see the proposal adopted to increase the qualification of Class B to 158., and Class C to 10s. 6d. Mr. MORRIS DAVIES thought he had just voted against it. (Laughter.) Mr. G. G. WILLIAMS thought that matters would be complicated by adopting the proposal. Mr. ROBERTS, Lion Hotel, suggested that the member- ship should be raised to 10s. 6d., and that the entrance fees should be left as they were last year. Mr. FRYER, in answer to a remark, said that since the last meeting he had heard the expressions of farmers in the district about the proposed amalgamation of classes, and they were anxious that Class C should be left as it was last year. He therefore did not wish to press his sug- gestion. He was sure, however, that so far as horses were concerned Classes B and C could compete together. Mr. G. G. WILLIAMS believed they could compete in horses, but it would be rather hard to ask them to com- pete in other things. Mr., FRYER thought that Classes B, C, and E could compete together in horses. Mr. MORRIS DAVIES advised that the subject should be postponed for another year, when it could be seen how the sub-committees worked. Mr. G. G. WILLIAMS said that classes A and B had an advantage over class C in having a greater number of animals to select from. He stuck up for class C in all its rights, and should be sorry to see it done away with. Mr. LEWIS WILLIAMS suggested that all entries should be sent in by post; but the CHAIRMAN stated that that was a subject which could be considered at the July meeting. Mr. MORRIs DAVIES called attention to the fact that the General Committee had been appointed, but that no convener had been appointed to call them together It was therefore resolved toholda meetingof the members of the General Committee at three o'clock that day fortnight in order to make further arrangements as to work. After a brief conversation, it was agreed to hold the Show on the third Wednesday in September. Mr. VAUGHAN DAVIES asked if the Society would sup- port a horse in a pecuniary sense if one were brought into the district ? The PRESIDENT remarked that the subject was discussed at the last meeting. Mr. VAUGHAN DAVIES understood that it was post- poned. He wanted to know, if a horse were brought into the district, would the Society give anything towards it. The PRESIDENT replied that he understood that it was the feeling of the la3t meeting that private individuals should take the matter in hand, or that the horse show should be resuscitated. Mr. VAUGHAN DAVIES asked if the Society intended giving a premium this year for an entire horse. ° Mr. G. G. WILLIAMS said that if the Society gave a prize it must be an open one. Mr. VAUGHAN DAVIES agreed to that condition, and afterwards proposed that 1,30 should be offered by the Society for an entire horse to travel the district. Captain COSENS seconded the proposition. Mr. G. G. WILLIAMS, after speaking of the uselessness of giving prizes like the Society did for entire horses last year, said he thought it beneficial to the district to have a good entire horse in it. If they went to any of the fairs in the neighbourhood and saw there a better horse than they usually saw there, they would be sure to find that those horses were got by Landmark, Bobby Burns, or some other horse which had been brought into the country. Those horses had made their mark, and always would make their mark. Breeders spoke of the advisableness of fresh blood; and he had no doubt but that it was better to have it than to go on in-and-in breeding*. There was a strong expression of feeling last year that they should -go on with their own hoisjs, and the results had been seen. Mr. MORRIS DAVIES-No, they have not. (Loud laugh- ter.) ° Mr. G. G. VV ILLIAMS added that they never would see those results. (Laughter.) They ought to strain every nerve to help Mr. Vaughan Davies in his proposal to get fresh blood into the district. He could not do much, but he thought they all ought to encourage Mr. Vaughan Davies and that when they had a good horse that they should limit its district and also the number of mares. (Hear, hear.) The free trade principle in horse flesh did not pay. (Laughter.) Mr. MORRIS DAVIES thought that the horse show left a more indelible mark upon the district than even the cattle show. Unfortunately, however, there was no one spe- cially who had to look after the subscriptions, and there were now between £ 80 and ,£80 owing. He suggested that there should be no prize offered for an entire horse this year; that the unpaid subscriptions be got in; that a vigorous attempt should be made next year to re-establish the horse show, and that they should try not only to get a good cart horse but also a thoroughbred. The good the efforts in horse breeding did to the country was seen at the last show, when the first, second, third, highly com- mended, and the next horses were got by horses which had been engaged by the Society. The PRESIDENT said he never felt more sorry for the discontinuance of anything than for the discontinuance of the hcrse shows, because it not only did good but this county was looked up to as having a horse show. When a parliamentary committee sat to consider the question of horse breeding no better plan could be suggested than that then existing in North Cardiganshire. He felt the advantage of importing a horse, but at the same time thought it advisable to keep the engagement of a horse and the agricultural show distinct. (Hear, hear.) They were different matters, and had reference to different times of the year. He was sure that Mr. Davies would meet with great support in his endeavour to resuscitate the horse show, and if he did no one would be more pleased than he (the speaker). The proposal was not pressed, and shortly afterwards the meeting separated.






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