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JULY 17, 1878.


JULY 17, 1878. NOTES. FRENCH PRISONERS OF WAR.—The follow- ing letter was found on a loose leaf with some other papers in which a number of books received from a London dealer were wrapped. The leaf appears to have been torn out of a book in which it formed part of Appendix No. II. The title of the book is not given, but it was printed partly in French and partly in English. As French Prisoners of War were known to be placed in many towns in England, at the date of the letter, it is desirable as a point of history to know if there were any confined at that time in any other town in Wales besides Pembroke. Pembroke, May 21, liGD. We the undersigned being Prisoners of War to his Majesty the Kins of Great Britain, and now in confinement at Pem- broke, South Wales, beg leave for ourselves aud fellow prisoners in this place, in number eighteen, to return our most sincere and hearty thanks to the Honourable Committee for cloathing French Prisoners of War. tor their generous and seasonable supply of cloathing to us; without which many amongst us must have been in the most distressed condition, from which we are happily relieved by the necessaries delivered to us by the order of the Honourable Committee. In grateful acknowledgement whereof we have hereunto put our names, this twonty-tirst day of May, 1700. The mark of Cotorel, Jean x Ragou, F, Graverend. Among the eighteen prisoners of war at this place, there is no officer of any rank and of the private men, but the above two that can write their names: but all expressed thankful- ness for the favours received, in presence of Morgan Meylett, Mayor, J. Ferior, Agent for Prisoners of War. LLALLAWG. OLD OSWESTRIANS (Mar. 13, 1878).-Johii Lloyd. I find this name amongst the list of Mayors, under the date 1769. He died in 1797, and Mr. T. Longueville Jones succeeded him in the office of Coroner. Mr. Lloyd I believe was a solicitor, and Cathrall states (but without giving his authority) that the Oswestry Association for the Prosecution of Felons was formed in 1771 by Mr. Lloyd, and that he was the originator of these societies in Eng- land. I have been told that he was the father of Mr. Robert Lloyd, who built "The Big House" in Church' Street (UtlW divided into" Belan House" and "The Vicarage.") Mr. Robert Lloyd died at Swanhill in 1803. He was one of the original guardians of the House of In- dustry, in 1791, representing Selattyn. His daughters be- came, respectively, Mrs. Gatacre and Mrs, Wynne Eyton. JARCO. A WELSH POET AND PROPHET.—The fol- lowing legend of Montgomeryshire is related in the Gossimna Guide to W(tles :— Soon after we pass Cemmaes Road Station, we may observe to our right a farm house close to the Dovey, just at the point of the confluence of a large brook with the river. This is called Mathavarn. In 1470, a 'great poet and scholar,' one David Llwyd ap Llewelyn, lived here, and one night entertained the Earl of Richmond (afterwards Henry VII.) as his guest. Henry was on his way from Milford Haven to Bosworth, and was naturally anxious to take safe peeps into futurity so he asked his host (who added the science of astrology to his stores of knowledge) what would most probably be the issue of his journey? Now Davie was a wise as well as a learned man, and his poetic nature was balanced by the possession of a practical wife. So David asked to sleep on the question and when the shades of evening and the matrimonial curtains had closed around them, the wife had little difficulty in discovering that her husband's mind was troubled, and what that trouble was. So she recommended that Richmond should be told a flattering tale for, said she, If you prophesy good for him, and he gains the victory, he will reward us and if he does'nt, and gets killed, he won't trouble us This circumstance is said to have given Wales a proverb, I I C)?n,hor gwraig heb ei ovyn;" which being very freely rendered, signifies, "The unsought advice of your better-half is worth taking." The other day, in an old newspaper, I found another version of the story, with the following addition The morning soon came, and the duke was delighted to hear that the heavenly bodies smiled on him. 'And, Lloyd,' said he, 'As I shall win, lend me your grey horse" Lloyd would have said No. but dare not, so it was at the duke's service and he rode the same horse to the battle of Bosworth, but it was never heard whether Lloyd got his horse again, or was promoted to honour." N. W.S. [A version of this anecdote, without the addition, is given in the Cambro-Briton, vol. 1, page 310. One is also published as a note on p. 449 of the Works of Lewis Glyn Cothi.—ED.] QUERIES. DYLIFE (May 8, 1878).—This Ecclesiastical Dis- trict was formed in the year 1856, and comprises parts of the mother parishes of Darowen, Llanbrynmair, Penegoes, and Trefeglwys. Llanbrynmair contributed 1,200 acres, and Trefeglwys 6,500 acres. Will the incumbents of the two other parishes kindly inform the readers of Bye- gones the acreage taken from their respective livings? IDLOES. LORD MAYOR SWINNERTON. -The follow- ing scanty biography occurs in Price's History of Oswestry, p. 132 JOHN SWINNERTON, son of Thomas Swinnerton, of this town, being bred a merchant-taylor in London, was lord mayor thereof, in 1012. He founded a monthly sermon to be preached in this church, and the churches of Shrewsbury, Ellesmere, and Whit- church, with an annual bequest to the poor of each place. The authority for this is quoted as Rev. W. Roberts's MS." Mr. Roberts was rector of Whittington and Selattyn where is his MS. deposited ? The Swinnerton charity has long been lost to Oswestry (see Reprint of Bye-gones, 1875, p. 209), the money being expended in ob- taining the "Street Act" in 1808-9. What more is known of Lord Mayor Swinnerton? I have seen him styled "Sir John." Why was he knighted ? Is the family still repre- sented in our neighbourhood ? As far back as 1769, in a Turnpike Minute-book, I have seen the name "John Swinnerton of Pentreclauth, labourer," appointed "De- puty-Surveyor at twelvepence per day," and half a cen- tury earlier we have the name in the Parish Registers in 1793, there is also Phillip Swinnerton," a constable ap- pointed by the Oswestry Incorporation. When the siege of Oswestry was raised, July 3, 1644, by Sir Thomas Myddelton, amongst the prisoners taken was a Captain Swynerton." Was he of the same family ? JARCO. REPLIES. SIR WATKIN WILLIAMS WYNN (July 4, 1877). At this date N.W.S." asked at what works in the neighbourhood of Oswestry Sir Watkin employed miners in 1801, and supplied to their families grain at a reduced price? In the beginning of this century there were collieries at Llwynymaen opened by Mr. Gibbons, Mr. Longueville's grandfather. Llwynymaen at that time was not entirely Sir Watkin's Mr. Gibbons had a small portion of the estate, and so had a gentleman living at Wem; and their shares were afterwards purchased by Sir Watkin. In an article on "Shropshire Patriotism" in the first volume of the Transactions of the Shrop- shire Archaeological Society" (1878) it is stated (p. 275) that the Llwynymaen colliers gave £4 6s. 6d. to the Patriotic Fund of 1798. F. WELSH JUDGES (June 19, 1878).-1 have always understood that the Welsh Judges did not vary their circuits, as the English judges do; and the following extract from a List of Peers, M.P's., and officials, in 1769, will go to prove it Judges of the Grand Sessions for the County in Wales, Chester, Montgomery, Flint, and Denbigh ShiresJohn Morton, Esq., ch. just. Taylor White, Esq. Brecon, Glamorgan, and Radnor Shires;—John Williams, Esq., William Whittaker, Esq. Cardigan, Pembroke, and Caermartlien Shires ;-In. Pullen, Edw. Poore, Esquires. Anglesey, Carnarvon, and Merioneth ShiresHon. Dames Barrington, Esq., James Hayes, Esq. This list follows that of the English judges, who are all given under their respective Courts of King's Bench. Common Pleas, &c. G. G. In June, 1802, Mr. Hugh Leycester, attorney- general of the Chester circuit, was appointed to the Welsh Judgeship on the Anglesea Great Sessions, in the place of Sir Thomas Manners Sutton, solicitor-general, who re- tired. Mr. Maniey was appointed to the attorney- generalship on the Chester circuit, rendered vacant by Mr. Leycester's appointment. It will thus be seen that the judgeships were for separate Welsh circuits, and not for the whole of the Principality. N.W.S. OA the 14th of June, 1828, the late Earl Cawdor addressed a letter to Lord Chancellor Lundhurst on the "Administration of Justice in Wales," in which his Lordship pointed out several glaring abuses, one of the most notorious being the following- Sir Having been directed by A B. to apply to you for ko is. Od. due to him, I have to request you will pay me that sum, together with my charge of five shillings, on or before Saturday next, as I shall otherwise be obliged to commence an action against you for the recovery thereof without further notice. —I am, your obedient servant, C. D. Soon after the publication of Lord Cawdor's letter, a Royal Commission was issued, and two English Judges were sent to South Wales, North Wales, and Chester, who held the Lent Assizes on the circuit in 1831. Before the abolition of the Welsh judicature, the same judges attended, four for South Wales, and the same number (I believe) for North Wales and Chester. F.S.A. Brecon. THE REV. RICHARD EDWARDS (June 26, 1878.)-In the Gents: Mag: for July, 1807, there was an account of the monuments in Oswestry Church, in which was given the following inscription from a brass plate :— The body of Svsanna ye wife of Richard Edwards, viear of the narish davghter of Iohn Parry of Llanbeder m the covnty of Denbigh Esqr was here intered the 13th day or Ivue 16Here alsoethe body of her hvsband Richard Edwards vicar of Oswestry son of Robert Edwards of Rhyd y croese in the parish of Lansilin in the covnty of Denbigh gent was in terred the 24th of Ivne 16SO the memorie of the Ivst is Blessed Pro x 7 As was stated in Bye-gones in 1874 (see p. 47 of reprint for that year) Mr. Edwards's death was recorded in the diary of Philip Henry, in which he was spoken of as a pious, peaceable, and good man." N £ :.IO. BALLOTING FOR THE MILITIA (May 29, oid newspaper records on this subject are curious as shewing the fluctuation in the market price of substi- tutes," and in the pluck and patriotism; or perhaps we should rather say bounce or Jingoeism of Britishers. Thus in 1795 there was such a row at Denbigh because the public anticipated an addition to the militia, by means of a ballot, that a riot ensued, and six men were committed for trial. On the other hand, early in 1797, when the first allotment of supplementary Militia was made in Shropshire, Several respectable tradesmen determined, with a true military spirit, to serve their country personally, and not to hire substitutes. No doubt part of this pluck was due to the fact that active service was not expected, for we find our neighbours in Montgomeryshire, assembling at Cann Offire, during the same month, and deciding, under a bond, not tu pay more than Two guineas for a substitute. However in a little more than twelve months the aspect of atiairs changed, and we are told that, in Sep., 1798, the price of substitutes in Shrewsbury rose to Twenty-guineas each," and that some were punished for engaging them- selves to one man and then selling their service to another. Between these dates the war-fever had been very bad indeed, and the nation had been bled very freely in com- pulsory and voluntary taxation so, as usual, {here was a reaction and the British Lion roared as gently as a suck- ing dove.

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