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c w N s n v A TIYS MEETING j AT MACHYNLLETH. On Wednesday afternoon, June 5th, after Sir W atkin 6 rent-audit and dinner, a meeting was held in the Town Hall to hear addresses by Mr. Charles' Wynn, M.P., and his supporters. Mr. J. G. W. Bonsall, Fronfraith, was voted to the chair, and there were also present among others Mr. W. W. E. Wynne, Peniarth, Mr. Owen Slaney Wynne, Sir John Conroy, the Rev. Canon Griffiths, M-'r D. Howell, Mr. Edward Morgan, Mr. Sackville Phelps,'Newlands, the Rev. S. Evans, Rev. M. Owen, Rev. D. Morgan, Penegoes, Rev. W. Richards, Rev. R. Jones. Daroven, Mr. D. W. Griffiths, Mr. Hugh Lloyd, Mr. Win. Pughe, Mr. R. Gillart, Llynlloed, Mr. IX Gilbertson, Ceniarth, Mr. Joseph Evans, Eronygog, Mr. R. Gillart, jun., Mr. E. Gillart. Mr. J. Evans, Mr. W.Oweu. Mr. H. Owen, Mr. D. Evans, Mr. Rowlands, Mr. R. Lloyd, Mr. R. Wood, Messrs. R. Jones, Bryuydoa, Hugh Jones, Thomas Brees, John Brees, Adam Hunt, Griffith Jones, E. Morgan, Llanbrynmair, Rowland Davies, Edward Williams, Corris, Thomas Andrews, J. &>• Hugh Lewis, David Davies, D. Humphreys, John Davies, Pen- nal, Charles Bowen, Owen Hughes, Richard Jones, Dr. Maesfen, Edwards, D. D. Williams. Evan Davies, David Jones, Penycoed, Edward Hughes, Goedol, W. Pierce, Eagles Hotel, Thomas Llewelyn, &c. The Oh airman siiid—i^reiitiemfcn We are met here to- day to hear our worthy representative for the county of Montgomery, Mr. Wynn—(cheers)—who has promised to address you on important subjects. I also believe other o-eutlemen will address you and I am sure you will give them all an attentive hearing. (Cheers.) The Rev. Canon GRIFFITHS said—Mr. Chairman and gentlemen: I have had an address put into my hands, which I am requested to bring before you, and to submit to your judgment. I have no doubt that when you hear it read you will all be ready to endorse it. It is an address to the Viscount Castlereagh, congratulating him on the birth of a son and heir—(loud applause) and his return as a representative in Parliament for County Down. (Continued applause.) Tfce address is as follows :— An address to the Lord Viscount Castlereagh, on the birth of his son and his election to represent, in Parliament, County Oov-n, Ireland "it is not often that friends have such fitting opportunity of approaching those whom they esteem and honour, to express their sympathetic and joyous feelings, as the two recent auspicious events offer your numerous admirers and well- W Thc ^lad news that the Viscountess Castlereagh had been spaciously preserved and presented you with a son, and the Londonderry estates with a future heir, and that the hignly in- telligent and important constituency of County Down had evinced their wisdom and done themselves the honour o- i elect- ing you to represent them in the Imperial Parliament, was received in the old town and neighbourhood of Machynlleth, which must be endeared to you by ties and recollections not easily effaced, with every sentiment of joy and enthusiasm and we, in a public meeting assembled, beg respectfully to present to you oui warmest congratulations and most ardont and best wishes. It was with just pride and gratitude that we followed you—thanks to the press—through your canvassing tour; listened to your wi.se and eloquent words (not unworthy of far riper years), and witnessed the grand reception that awaited you everywhere. Being not only an inheritor of an illustrious name, the son of good and noble parents (whom only to know is to love them), and heir to large estates, but also endowed with rare personal gifts, we cannot help auguring for you an important future, and our earnest prayer is that your promising valuable life may long be spared, and that you may be enabled, with God s bles- sing, to rise to the occasion, showering additional glory on your noble house, benefiting your country, and earning for yourself a just and glorious reward both here and hereafter. We have the honour to remain, Your Lordship's most humble and obedient servants, J. G. W. BONSALL, Chairman. (On behalf of the meeting). (Loud applause). That is the address I have been re- quested to move that this meeting should adopt and send to Lord Castlereagh, which I shall do without further trespassing at all upon the time of other speakers who will follow me in connection with our member for this county. (Applause.) The subject of this address is so well known to us all in this neighbourhood, that it requires no words of mine to elevate him in your estimation. I, therefore, beg leave to move that this address be adopted and presented to the Right Hon. Lord Castlereagh. (Loud applause). Sir JOHN CONROY said he had been requested, and lie had great pleasure in acceding to the request, to second the ad,)ption of the address, as he cordially entered into the sentiments which had been so ably and eloquently ex- pressed in that document. He thought he ought to con- gratulate the electors of County Down in having secured such an efficient and able representative, and one that was connected with the county by the ties of property. He thought that it was important that the member who repre- sented the county should be a county man, and be connected in some way with the county. (Applause). They knew, he said it with all deference to his good friends the agents- (laughter) -that people had a way of looking after their own interests rather than after those of other people- (cheers)-and as they knew that the interest of the tenant was identical with the interest of the landlord, what must affect the landlord must affect the tenant. He thought it was really a fortunate thing for the County Down folk that they had secured a representative in Lord Castle- reagh. (Applause). He thought it was especially so, because they were all prone to forget how much the wel- fare and prosperity of the county were affected by the small measures introduced into Parliament compared with thebig ones. The great measures came seldom, and did not come home to the daily life of the people in the same manner as the small measures. Let them take an example of what he meant. At the last general election the great political cry was the Disestablishment of the Irish Church. So far as he was aware the only result was that the Bishops and Clergy of the Irish Church had been deprived of a considerable portion of their income, and the laity had had to put their hands in their pockets to provide for the maintenance of divine service. That was so far as the practical result was concerned. He had a small property in Roscommon, for which he paid tithes. Before the Church was Disestablished he had to pay tithes, and now he had to pay tithes, but they would work themselves out in a certain number of years. In the present generation, however, it made no difference whatever. But let them take a very small measure, and he would take a very small measure in which they as Welshmen were interested. Perhaps he ought not to say "we" Welshmen, because he could not speak the language of Wales, but he hoped to be allowed to claim to be a Welshman notwithstanding. (Cheers.) The small measure he wished to mention to the meeting was the one which concerned the dog tax. About the beginning, or rather the middle of the present session, the Chancellor of the Exchequer made a proposal to raise the dog tax, granting exceptions in the case of sheep dogs. A creat many people thought that that tax ought to have been rafsed to a greater extent, and that there should be no ex- ceptions whatever, ft would make but little difference to"the English farmer, who had large enclosed farms, who kept sheep, and had a dog or so, and whose rents were hundreds a year, but the case would have been very different with the small Welsh farmer, who kept sheep and sheep dogs, fur if the tax had been fixed at so much per bead it would have made a considerable difference in his annual expenditure. (Cheers.) Of course a hundred illustrations could be chosen, but those two things would prove that small measures did very often much more affect the bulk of the people, and had much more to do with the comfort and prosperity of the country than the great measures upon which Governments went in and went out of office. (Hear, hear.) He thought the electors of County Down could be congratulated in having a repre- sentative who would take care of their interests. (Cheers.) He heartily recommended the address to the notice and sympathy of those present, and he was sure everyone in the room would join in the heartiest manner possible in adopting the address which had been so ably proposed by Canon Griffiths. (Applause.) Mr. CHARLES WYNN said before the resolution was put to the meeting he should like to say that it was only re- cently Lord Castlereagh had been to him and expressed the pleasure he should have in attending that meeting, but owing to the discussion on an Irish question in the House of Commons on Tuesday night he was prevented from attending. Lord Castlereagh had written to ex- press his regret, but hoped to be able to be present at the Llanbrynmair meeting on Thursday. (Applause.) The motion having been put to the meeting and unanimously adopted, The CHAIRMAN said it was next his duty to call upon Mr. Charles Wynn to address the meeting. (Applause.) He had every reason to be satisfied with the hon. mem- ber's conduct in Parliament. He had supported the Government, and the speaker believed him to be a man of peace, for that was what they all were. (Hear, hear.) They were all men of peace on the Eastern Question, and he believed he Government, which Mr. Wynn sup- ported. aimed at the conclusion of a peace which would be lasting and honourable to the country. (Applause.) Mr. CHARL-ES WYNN, M.P., was cheered as he rose to speak. He said, having accomplished that first and very pleasant preliminary to the day's proceedings, and given Lord Castlereagh a hearty congratulation, which he was sure came from the very soul of everyone who had heard and assented to the address, they would pass on to the object of the meeting. He would begin by thanking Mr. Bonsall for so kindly taking the chair, and those present for attending in such numbers to give him (the speaker) an opportunity which he seldom had of saying a word on the great questions of the day. (Cheers.) It was then v sixteen years since he first presented himself in that town, an untried man, to ask the suffrage of the electors in op- position to the late Lord Sudeley for the candidature of the county. Those suffrages they very kindly and liberally ve him, and succeeded in triumphantly returning him at the head of the poll. Since that time he had since ap- pealed to them three or four times, he thought, for a re- newal of the trust, and he had not appealed in vain. H 'heers.) The electors had in the kindest and most liberal manner confirmed the selection which they then made, and up to the present time he had had no threat of a con- test. It appeared, however, that the time of peace and tranquillity was about to pass^ away. The people of Montgomery nad seen it announced in all the papers that gentleman was coming i forward at the next election—come when it might—to contest the representation of the county. Against that he had not a word to say. The representation of a great county like Montgomery was a legitimate object of ambi- tion to every man. It was true that in most cases that ambition was confined to men who were either born or had some connection by propertv or family with the county which they sought to represent. (Applause.) He, however, was far from saying that that was a necessary connection. There were plenty of exceptions to it. But he did sy-and with that he would pass over the question of Mr. Stuart Rendel's candidature—that before disturb- ing the peace of a county and causing all the disunion, all, the heart burning, and all the strife which a county con- test invariably entailed, a man should be tolerably sure of his ground and know for certain whether he had any prospect of success. (Cheers.) It might be that he had. He had, doubtless, sources of information as regarded his prospects, and all he (the hon. gentleman) would add with respect to the contest, if it were to DC:, was that he dicliioper ] it would be conducted on public and political grounds, and that those miserable personalities whith so often dis- graced English and Welsh elections would be a1, oided. (Cheers.) He could only promise it on his own part that they should be avoided. (Cheers.) Both Mr. Stuart Rendel and he alike sought the suffrages of the electors upon public grounds. He had not one word to say against Mr. Rendel. Everything he had heard of him was in that gentleman's favour, and he had no grounds to object in the smallest degree to his seeking the honour he (Mr. Wynn) had so long enjoyed. (Cheers.) But that ques- tion and the success of the candidate should depend not only upon personal but mainly upon political grounds— (hear, hear)—and he asked the electors whether they were prepared by their> votes at the contest—come when it might—to reverse the whole political support they had given him during so many years. ("No," and applause.) The two great questions upon which Mr. Stuart Rendel had addressed the electors were the questions of peace and the Establishment of the Church. Let them take the first. Was it too much to say that if the agitation—begun by the ultra Radical party, and fathered by Mr. Gladstone, an agitation which went through the length and breadth of the land in the early part of last year, or rather the winter of the year before—had been successful, was it too much to say that Englad would have been at war that moment? No topic was left untouched, or word unsaid which could be possibly said to spare the feelings of those whom they were trying to thrust into war. He thought it was a very fortunate thing for the country that the reins n_ of power were in the hands of so far-seeing a man as Lord I' eaconsfield-(,tpplause)-a man who was so far in ad- vance even of his own political party. He saw when he must put down his foot. He saw that the hole-and-corner treaty between Russia and Turkey, which was extracted at the point of the bayonet, would lead to fresh aggression, and was one of one of no small amount were it.allowed to pass. There were not wanting inducements held out to England to allow it to pass but there was the treaty of Kainardj i which was the result of a congress of nations, and England did not feel that she could honourably depart from an en- gagement entered into by all the nations of Europe, even for her own advantage. (Hear, hear.) Sometimes, he durst not say always, in public as well as private matters, honesty was the best policy, and so it had proved to be in this case. (Hear, hear.) England had deliberately said that should further aggression occur, or any attempt be made upon Constantinople, the Government were pre- pared to back their words by force. (Cheers.) There was an old Latin proverb which said, If you wish for peace be ready for war." Upon that principle the Government had acted, and no doubt the legitimate consequence of that action had been that England was about to enter within the next week or so into a congress which had for its object- and God grant that it might be obtained-an arrangement for a lasting and definite basis of peace. (Applause.) It was impossible to look back upon the events of the past year, and more especially upon the agitation which occurred respecting what took place in Bulgaria, without seeing that there were two sides to the shield, both of which were true. No one could regret or deplore and stigmatize as horrible more than he did those Bulgarian atrocities which were the foundation of that agitation. At the same time, however, he might say, the country had singularly overlooked the fact that the Russian treatment of Jewish subjects in Bosnia and Roumelia was such that his informant, who was a Jew, said that it would only bear comparison and fall short of the atrocities committed by the Turkish soldiers in Bulgaria. Women were ravished and burnt, and children were thrown into the fire. In fact, all those horrors were committed, the like of which Englishmen had heard detailed in public meetings which had been held all over the country during the winter before last. The truth was that he was afraid those people should not be judged by the same test as civilized people were submitted to, that the same test should not be applied to them as would be applied to such countries as France and Italy. Savage nations had a warfare peculiar to themselves. The people of England condemned and deplored such conduct, and sent out mis- sionaries to Africa and other places in order to stop such practices. They, however, did not interfere and go to war when 200 or 300 slaves were sacrificed by a potentate on the coast of Guinea, but only when action was taken which threatened British safety or British territory. Upon that principle the English people acted. They did not go to war with Abyssinia until the safety of English people was threatened. Then such action was taken which pre- vented, and would prevent in future, such aggression upon English territory in that part of the world. If they spoke of the Eastern question they must not judge it in the same way as they would judge matters which concerned civilized 1 nations only. They had hardly a right to judge it by the same canons of international law. He thought at the present time the Eastern question might be looked upon as offering a fair field for pacific solution, and one element which had conduced to that solution was that very mea- sure which the meeting had seen so unreservedly con- demned, of employing Indian troops to back England. (Applause.) It was a c rious concurrence of events, but it showed that the English Government had good informa- tion and knew more than he and his hearers did, that the decision to call those Indian troops to Malta should have coincided, should have been so little in arrear of the Grand Duke Nicholas's proclamation, that the Russians were about to carry the war into India, where the inhabitants would flock to the Russian standard and overthrow the British rule. Perhaps no more emphatic contradiction-no contradiction which would have so much weight in Russia-could be given than the readiness with which the Indian troops responded, and also t he readiness of the whole Bengal army. (Applause.) The first force selected were from Bombay. The Bengal would have been glad to follow, and no doubt the Madras army would have also done so had it been necessary. (Applause.) He could not but think that that, coupled with the last visit of Count Schouvaloff to St. Petersburg, bearing to his Imperial master a report which he was best able to supply of the real state of public feeling in England, was the real history of Russia's agreeing to go into the Congress. (Applause.) There was no doubt there was another and very potent reason which induced Russia to come to some pacific terms, and that was the absence of what nations as well as individuals could not do without-money. (Cheers and laughter.) It was not a very long time ago a Russian loan of eight millions was offered upon every stock exchange in Europe at any rate at which it could be obtained, and of that amount only one million eight hundred thousand could be had, one million from Frankfort, and eight hundred thousand from Holland, and that at eight per cent. (Cheers and laughter.) It needed no conjurer to show that when a nation went into the money market and got a sum of money only sufficient to carry on a war three or four days, it behoved that nation to see how it could draw in its horns and decrease its expenditure. (Cheers.) It had been said that no nation had been stopped from going to war through want of money, and in support of that argument the French wars were pointed at. For that, however, two reasons could be assigned. The first Napoleon made war support war by ravaging the countries through which his army passed, and paper money was used, not in payment of the troops, but in purchasing the munitions of war. It should be re- membered also that a state of poverty was not arrived at until the French had been some time at war. So he came to the conclusion that when once commenced, war was never stopped by want of money, but it did prevent it before war was commenced. (Cheers.) Well, the re- mainder of the time of Parliament during the present session had, he was sorry to have to say, been miser- ably wasted. When Parliament separated last year the members were told that some scheme would be devised for carrying on the business of Parliament, and to over- rule the interruptions caused by the Irish members, who went under the name of Home Rulers. He was sorry to say Parliament met this year in January, and they found the same system of ohstruction still in full force. A Parliamentary Committee had been sitting on the subject during the present session, but he did not think it had or would arrive at any definite conclusion. The fact was, that the rules of Parliament had been so framed to secure the rights of minorities, believing them to be composed of rational and sensible gentle- men, but when the rules were applied to a set of men who were oblivious to every interest save what they considered their own, they fell to the ground, and the system broke down, Last year Parliament sat far into the next day, and twice this year the obstruction had occurred. Mem- bers, speakers, audvclerks were heartily weary in waiting for the termination of the obstruction. Whether any means could be devised to check that obstruction, and to secure some share of the time of Parliament for the con- sideration of imperial affairs, yet remained to be seen. All public measures had been shelved but before the end of the ses ion the members hoped to pass several Bills. The County Boards Bill and the Highways Bill were both important measures. A great deal of time had been oc- cupied by the discussion of foreign topics, of which no one could complain. The question of peace and war, the question whether England should be brought into a serious and bloody war, which very likely would have involved all Europe before its conclusion it was of the utmost importance, and the time had been cheerfully sacrificed to its discussion of the questions constantly arising. When, however, those discussions had been subordinated to the miserable squabbles of the Irish members he believed the country had cause to complain. (Hear, hear.) He was sorry to say that the Irish members were not alone in the share of the blame, for upon several occasions they had been supported by sections of the Opposition. That Opposition had seldom acted together. They were separ- 1 ated into so many divisions. Perhaps the occasion of the debate on the employment of Indian troops was the only occasion lately in which they acted in concert, and the majority was then 120 in favour of the Government. (Applause.) When a subsequent discussion came on as to the expenses of the removal of the Indian troops, which he was bound to admit was very high-it came to some- thing like J67 a man-about 50 went out to support the obstructive measure, and the proposition was affirmed by a larger majority than that which supported the employ- ment of Indian troops. (Applause.) He hoped that be- fore the end of the session some of the Parliamentary business would be transacted. The County Government Bill was a very important measure. It would give a sub- stantial and real voice to those who were elected by the several Boards of Guardians on the Financial Board, and in that way would give farmers and others a direct voice in the administration of county finance. (Applause.) It had been said, and said with some show of truth, that the establishment of County Boards would result in greater expenditure than was the case at the present time in county government. They must, however, hope and trust that would not be the case. He hoped the results of the deliberations of the larger Board —many of_ whose members would not be so largely interested in the rates as the landlords, who were chiefly magistrates, now were-would not be more ex- travagant than at present. (Hear.) Be that as it might be, there had been a universal and decided claim for such representation upon the spending Board, and as such had been the case the Government had acceded to it, and had tried to give effect to the wish of the country. Whether it would be for the best remained to be seen. The natural complement to that Bill was one for the uniform valuation of the county, and that he hoped would be carried before the end of the session. Innumerable other measures had to be put off, but they must iiope for the best. He co-ild only say that he was quite certain, speaking for himself and for the great party with which he had the hoaour to act, that if time were not found for those Bills it would not be the fault of the Government, but of the Opposition. (Cheers.) Before he sat down he should like to say one word more as to the coming contest. All of them knew him and had had an opportunity of judging of his political conduct for many years. Many of those who stood by him when he first entered Macbynlleth to solicit the suffrages of the electors, had. passed away. The very building in which he addressed the electors then had been numbered with the past, an in its place there was the beautiful Castlereagh Tower. (Applause). He could not but believe that those who had passed away had left sons or relatives behind them who adhered to the consti- tutional principles which first recommended him to the suffrages of their fathers. (Applause). From those principles, so far as he had been able, he had never con- scientiously swerved. (Cheers). It was not for him to say with what ability he had served the electors he could only speak of the will and the heartiness of his efforts. (Applause). They might easily find an abler man, they might easily find an abler speaker, but he did not think they would readily find any one who would give readier and more hearty devotion to their interest than lie had. (Cheers). When the day came-whether it was this year, and he was not aware when it would come, if the congress resulted in terms which were the lasting basis of peace, the Prime Minister might appeal to the country, or it might be that Parliament would last another session and a dissolution occur in the autumn of 1879, but come when it would he should be ready to do his part—(applause)— and he trusted the electors would be ready to do their part. (Loud cheers). Mr. MORGAN OWEN said—Mr. Chairman and gentle- men, I am pleased to have a second opportunity of addressing an audience within the walls of this room. (Hear, hear.) On the first occasion I did what little I could on behalf of Lord Castlereagh's candidature for the Montgomery Boroughs, and I am glad that I have had the pleasure of listening to the address that has just been read in your hearing, congratulating his Lordship on a two-fold event—his triumphant return—(applause)— with a-very large majority as the representative of one of the most important of Irish counties—(applause)—and the birth of a son and heir not to the family of Castlereagh only but to the house of Londonderry. (Cheers.) I ain pleased too to have heard the able speech of Mr. Charles Wynn—(hear, liear)-aild I am sure his statesmanlike address has given you, as it has given me, great satisfaction. (Applause.) Now, gentlemen, I would say a word or two about the candidate whom the Liberals have brought for- ward to contest the seat for the county. As you are aware this gentleman, Mr. Stuart Rendel, is almost if not alto- gether a total stranger to us. (Hear. hear.) The Oswestry Advertizer, however, has tried to make out by some in- genious political process of which happily for mankind its leader writers alone possess the secret, that he is the true political descendant tf the father of our excellent county member—(laughter)—and consequently the head of the house of which the latter, so this journal would have us believe, is but a sort of spurious member. (Laughter.) Such logical sequence is beyond my compre- hension. (Laughter.) Of course this sort of thing will not go down with sensible people. It is true that Mr. Charles Wynn's father, of whom we have every reason to feel proud—(applause)—did vote for the emancipation of the Roman Catholics. But his having done so does not go to prove that there is any connection of any nature whatsoever between him and the gentleman who, coming from the banks of the Tyne, would hoist himself into the seat which was so worthily and ably filled by the Right Hon. Charles Wynn for 56 years, and which is now no less ably or worthily filled by our present member. (Ap- plause.) On the contrary, it proves to us, if proof were needed, that his son, Mr. Char.es Wynn, has true blood in his veins, and that walking in the footsteps of his father he is not only ready, but also able and willing, to give his vote in the House of Commons in order to remove any evil or unjust burden un- der which any section of her Majesty's subjects may be labouring. (Applause.) But to return to Mr. Stuart Rendel. You will, perhaps, recollect that twelve months last December there was a great Liberal demonstration at Newtown. At that meeting the first in- dication was given of a desire on the part of the Liberals to give battle to the Conservatives for the county seat. I make use of the word desire advisably, for at that time they did not appear to have made up their minds about the matter. At that meeting not a word was said about Mr. Stuart Rendel. At that period of time, as far as the Liberals of Montgomery were concerned, he might have been unborn, or an innocent baby in his cradle. (Laughter.) Indeed, it was then proposed to bring forward a Montgomeryshire man. As a Welshman and a Mont- gomeryshire man myself—(applause)—I frankly confess I was pleased that a Montgomeryshire man man was to be brought forward, if the Liberals were bent upon bring- ing anyone forward, because I am jealous of the honour of our well-beloved native county. (Cheers). I feel indignant that such a slur, nay, such an insult, should be put upon our county as the Liberals have put upon her by trying to throw out one of her sons and to induce a stranger and an alien to be our county representative. Now, gentlemen, I will read to you what the Oswestry Advertizer has re- ported Mr. David Davies to have said on this subject at that meeting. He hoped that whenever a vacancy in the representation of the county arose, they would all put their heads and their pockets together—(laughter)—to secure the return of a Liberal candidate. They might find a very good man in the county, who might not feel justified in incurring the expense of a contested election, and he could not see why they should not assist him by finding the money rather than seek a candidate outside the county." Mark those words. He thought it was a great advantage to have a local man "-and we think so too-" and they certainly had some very good men in the county, who might not wish to spend £10,000 in an elec- tion, as they might want it some other day. Why, there- fore, should they not raise £10,000 by subscriptions?" Those were the very words of one of the shrewdest men in Wales—(hear, hear)—of a man for whom I have the greates t respect, viewing him as an ordinary member of society, because he has made his own fortune and position entirely by his own industry and integrity. And yet, notwithstanding his words spoken at Newtown, the same gentleman, but a few days ago, speaking in a religious building upon a political subject at Llanidloes, moved the following resolution :—" That this meeting heartily welcomes Mr. Stuart Rendel as a candi- date for the county, and pledges itself to use every legiti- mate means to secure his return." (Cheers and laughter). What shall we say for conduct such as this? May we not justly exclaim, 'Inconsistency, thy name is David Davies?" (Lauzhter). Why don't some of the very good men," referred toby the member for the Cardigan Boroughs in his sensible remarks made at Newtown, come forward or why was he not brought forward by his Liberal friends to break a lance with Mr. Charles Wynn? (Cheers). Was it because he fel ashamed to go round the county with a subscription list in his hand like a. poor man with a brief, who is anxious to make good the loss of a pig or a donkey? (Laughter). No, that was not the reason. I will tell you why no Montgomeryshire man came forward. The reason was this. No Montgomeryshire man would dream that the Liberal candidate would have a chance, not even the ghost of a chance to win the seat from a Wynn— (cheers)—and as my fellow-countrymen are sensible men, they are ashamed to beg 210,000, and too wise to throw away that sum of money out of their own purses. With an eye to the future, however, a few Liberals looked round for a man with what has been termed "a pocket "-(Iaii.-hter)--and I am told that they have found one. I am glad to learn that he has already helped the Newtown people with a cheque for £ 25, and that he has taken a house in the lower part of the county. But as for his head, you have read his speeches, such as they are and you can form your own opinion 40n that particular head. (Laughter.) I don't know if our Liberal friends in the approaching election intend to follow the tactics of our pious friend, the Emperor of Germany, or those of the still more pious Czar of Russia. You remember that in the Franco-Prussian war the Prussians made very great use of the outsiders, the Bavarians, and when the latter gained the victory, the Prussians seized the spoil. In like manner in the terrible and blasphemous war recently waged against Turkey, Christianized Russia sent the Roumanians into the forefront of the battle, and when the Turks were defeated, the Russians kicked the Rouman- ians a-side, and even laid hold of what had previously belonged to them. (Shame.) I hope, I say, our Liberal friends will not do this sort of thing by their foreign ally. I believe they intend to induce him to spend his £ 10,000, or what not,pimply for the purpose of weakening their Conservative friends at the approaching election, and then when a really good opportunity occurred for success to bring forward one of those "very good men" to go in and win. In a word, I trust Mr. Stuart Rendel is not a cat s paw to those who are termed conscientious well wishers. (Laughter.) Of late we have read a great deal about the way in which certain members of Parliament designated Liberals have attacked the public press. M%. Watkin Williams has been very unhappy because a Conservative paper circulates in the borough which he temporarily represents, but I rather think his zeal has been mis-ap- plied. Moreover, the ex-leader of the Liberal party was so nettled in one of the Reviews that he ventured to assert that one of its articles would have been burnt by the com- mon hangman if it had been written in by-gone times. Now, this was very strong language to use, and the "Saturday Review," in a leader upon Mr. Gladstone's petty deputation speech at Hawarden—upon which occasion Wales was represented by three self-elected delegates, who must have been men of great courage to have voluntarily taken upon themselves to assume the position of the three illustrious and historical gentlemen who once upon a time spoke unbidden in the name of England- (laughter)-the "Saturday Review" remarks upon the subject-" The report of the Hawarden speech might with great advantage be committed to the flames, if its perversity, injustice, and violence could at the same time be effectually annihilated." Another great Liberal, and one of the immortal conveners, the Duke of Westminster, speaking at Mold the other day, said the Tories were igno- rant. That assertion I beg to deny. It is generally allowed that graduates at our universities are rather clever than not. At the last University election the Conserva- tive candidate, Mr. Talbot, was returned by a majority of some 1,700. It will thus be seen that his Grace was not correct in his information. He went on to remark that when he was a weak baby he looked at a Dissenter as a murderer, and on every Dissenting chapel as a per- fect den of iniquity. Gentlemen, I cannot help saying that he must have been an extraordinary haby to ha ve been able to form such horrid opinions for himself, that his nursery must have been an awful place, and that he must have been nurtured in the lap of very uncharitable- ness. (Hear, hear.) But perhaps he was only joking. L r However, whenever the Duke of Westminster opens his mouth we should always remember that he speaks with -the tongue of gratitude—(laughter)—for he his duke- dom to Mr. Gladstone—and when his Grace talks about Tory ignorance we should be reminded that the House of Crosvenor has been emplanted upon British soil for 800 years, and during the whole of that long period, notwithstanding its proverbial geniality, magnifi- cence, and great generosity, not one of its members has risen above the rank of mediocrity. (Laughter.) Not a single member of that family has left a mark upon the pages of history. In the camp, upon the ocean, in the Church, at the Bar, in the State, in each and every sphere of life we search in vain for a talented, distin- guished Grosvenor. In what manner, therefore, is this Whig house to be compared with the Tory houses of Stanley, of Cecil, of Richmond, of Herbert, and a score of others? (Cheers.) The first is to the latter what the chirping sparrow upon the house-top is to the eagle that stares with open gaze upon the sun in its meridian splen- dour. (Applause.) With your permission I will now re- turn to the politics of our own county. One of those who spoke from the platform in the House of God at a political meeting recently held at Llanidloes, referred to the Ballot Act and to personal canvassing of electors. He is re- ported to have said that "the Legislature must have in- tended that in such a case I might break my word, be- cause they expressly provide the means to enable me to promise one way, and to vote the other." That is to say he turns round on his own party, for the speaker of these Jesuitical words is what is termed a Liberal, and the Ballot Act, as you very well remember was a Liberal measure—and accuses them of in- venting a promise-breaking machine or lie box. That is gratitude with a vengeance. What I should advise you electors to do is this If you are asked for your votes you must promise if convenient to you, or not promise if not convenient. (Hear, hear.) In this way you will prov-e yourselves to be right-minded and God-fearing men, and not vile hypocrites. (Cheers.) On that occasion the same speaker intimated that at the next general election the Conservative members for Wales would be turned out and the Liberals put in their places. (No.) That was, in plain words, that all attempt would be made to silence and turn out the intelligence of the country, and to give a trumpet to and handicap ignorance. (Cheers.) But Wales has not descended to such a deg,th as that. The opposite of that will occur. Educated men will take the place of uneducated men, and Liberals will be replaced by Conservatives. (Hear, hear.) ThoseLiberals whoatone time sing the numbers of very good Liberals" in Mont- gomeryshire who are fit to be candidates for the county, and at another jtime introduce a stranger into our midst— a man who knows nothing at all about us, and who would never have visited our county unless in the hope of getting into Parliament through her a man who like the fox in the fable would make use of the goat a Welsh one in this instance—(laughter) to exalt himself in life-these identical Liberals thus patronize Sir Watkin Williams Wynn. These are the words:- They were not going to contest Sir Watkin's seat. Sir Watkin was not very weLIf and as he was a jolly good fellow and did not often go to the House to vote they would leave him in possession of his seat as long as he lived." That was all very fine but we must not forget the election of 186S. (Applause.) The oracle of Llandinam is generous towards Sir Watkin because he knows that if all the Radicals of Wales were to join together as one man and tried to turn Sir Watkin out of Parlia- ment they would fail ignominiously. (Applause.) I feel sure that every man in our county who honours the name of Britain is disgusted with the conduct of those who have desecrated the name of liberty and prostituted the fair name of England by taking the blood-stained hand of one of the chief of tyrants, of one of the most unstable and unreliable of monarchs, the Czar of all the Russias. When men would betray their_ country, as some of the Liberals appeared to be anxious to do, it is high, time they should be removed from positions which they are not able and are unworthy to be able to iill. (Cheers.)' From his list I am very glad to exclude the name of Mr. David Davies, as he had the proud courage to refuse to vote for Lord Hartington's motion the week before last. In this perilous time, when a patriotic and far-seeing Government is struggling hard to keep the vessel of State in smooth water, it behoves all electors to vote for constitutional candidates, and not for those who would pronounce any] shibboleth, so long as they can cling to a seat in Parliament. I do not wish yoa to suppose I advocate the cause of Mr. Charles Wynn simply because his father occupied the county seat before him; nor because he is a near relation to the worthy baronet of Wymistay. I do so because I am convinced of the fact that he has done his duty ably and conseientiously as our representative for many years—(cheers)—and I shall be the last man to invite a stranger into our midst. Should Mr. Charles Wynn ever retire, then, instead of bringing forward a man concerning whom we are almost totally ignorant, I shall support a man whose forefathers, whatever their social position has been, were Montgomeryshire men—(cheers)— whose chief aim in life was to do their duty; pay their way like honest men, and add to the good name of our beautiful country. (Applause.) We are decidedly glad to welcome Mr. Stuart Rendel as a neighbour, and we hope he will continue to be one of our neighbours for a long time but not as our representative. In addition to the tact that Mr. Charles Wynn has worked for us for so long a time he has the great merit of being one of ourselves. He 1, knows our needs, and. he has every sympathy with us also. If we compare him with Mr. Stuart Rendel in any respect he will be found to be the better man. (Applause.) Concerning Mr. Hanbury Tracy, I have only this to say. He seems to be a very gentlemanly and very inoffensive. I should be one of the first to volunteer in his servfce. But he is a Liberal. If he and Mr. Stuart Rendel desire to represent a constituency in Parliament, then let them go to Russia. (Laughter.) Let them persuade the Czar to grant his subjects a free con- stitution, and when they have succeeded in that, let them solicit the suffrages of the people whom they appear to love better than their own flesh and blood. (Cheers.) Let us, however, rally round the banner of Mr. Charles Wynn, and when the struggle comes, let us fight in an honest and upright manner, not for a bare victory merely, but for a glorious victory. Let me exhort you not to allow our political rivals to intimidate you or deprive you of the most glorious of all glorious liberties, freedom of action and speech, so long as the rights of individuals and the laws of the land are not infringed. (Applause.) Mr. OWEN SLANEY WYNNE said, at that advanced state of the proceedings, he would not detain the meeting long. In the Oswestry Advertizer, to which Mr. Morgan Owen had referred, was an account of the Liberal meeting held about the 4th May. It was called the Liberal campaign in Montgomeryshire." Now, that sounded very formid- able. It sounded very much like as if the Liberals were on the war path, and that the Conservatives must look out for their scalps. (Laughter.) He did not know if the Conservatives in that part of the county were made to feeljvery timid, but he did not feel so. At all those Liberal meetings there was a good deal of what wna r-nllp.d bounce. (Laughter.) He could not help think- ing that the Liberals were always accusing the Conser- vatives of boasting of the family ties between Mr. Charles Wynn and Sir Watkin, and so on, and added, What is there in a name ?" He ventured to say that there was a great deal in a name, and that the name of Wynn had been, and always would be, respected in Montgomeryshire. (Applause.) He knew a great many of the freeholders and tenant farmers in the county, and, as the meeting knew very well, a man was proud of his name. Now, he could go to the farms in the county and say to Jones or Williams, as the case might be, "I think you have been here a long time ?" es," he would reply, I have been here all my life, my grandfather was here before me, and my great grandfather before him." If the farmer were proud of that, surely he \vas proud of a name. He was proud of having been at that farm all tho's years, and he said I shall vote for Charles Wynn, for I have voted for him and the farmer was proud of it. To him it seemed strange that Wales, rich in associations and proud of old traditions, with its mountains and its eisteddfodau, should be a Liberal country. He could not believe at all that what Mr. David Davies had said was true that in years to come all the constituencies in Wales would be represented by Liberals. (No.) He refused to believe it. On the contrary, he thought that the Welsh people would recognize it to be for the welfare of the country that the Liberal members should be turned out. (Cheers.) Mr. Charles Wynn owned property in Montgomery, and was connected with the county by family ties, although the Liberals did not think much of that. Did not the meeting think it was much better and right for a county constituency to have for its member a gentleman who was connected with the landed interest of the county, rather than a gentleman who came from some distant county, and who so far as they knew might not have an acre of land of his own (Applause.) Did not they think that a gentleman who was a landowner was more likely to be interested in the land and in the welfare of farmers and freeholders-and the county con- stituencies were mostly composed of landowners, freeholders and the clergy, all whose interest was in the land-than a gentleman who was not a landowner ? (Cheers.) If they did think so let them do all they could to return for the county constituencies gentlemen who were asso- ciated with the county. (Hear, hear.) He did not say a word against Mr. Stuart Rendel. He might be a jolly good fellow, as the Liberals called Sir Wat- kin, in their paper. But he was a stranger to the electors, and' as the Oswestry Advertizer termed it, he was a "carpet badger." (Laughter.) Carpet bagger, was, he believed an°Americanism. It meant, he presumed, that it was a gentleman who wanted to get into Parliament for some- where, so he took up his carpet bag and went to a county and said "Here I am. and if you return me to Parliament I will do what I can, but if you do not return me, I will pack up my carpet bag, and go somewhere else and try until I do get in." (Laughter.) He could hardly think that the electors of Mont- gomeryshire as members of an intelligent con- stituency would vote for a gentleman who had nothing to do with Montgomeryshire, and who came, it may be, from the uttermost parts of the earth. (Laughter.) He believed Mr. Stuart Rendel was a partner in the gun manufactory of Messrs. Armstrong, but he believed that gentleman had nothing to do with the county of Montgomery. Mr. Charles Wynn, on the other hand, was a Montgomery and a tried man, and he (the speaker) was sure the electors would show their sense in giving their votes to him rather than to a man like \1 r. Stuart Rendel. (Cheers.) He thought that a Conservative man was a man who wanted to conserve whatever was good in a county, and eliminated whatever was bad. (Hear, hear.) A Liberal was a man who went in for headlong reform, and so far as he (Mr Wynne) could see, was inclined to sweep away everything in the country. Did those present find in their experience that a Liberal landlord was better than a Conservative landlord ? His experience told him that a Conservative landlord was the better of the two. A gentleman came down from Man- chester or Birmingham to Montgomeryshire, or Merioneth- shire, and bought some land, upon which were two or three farms. He was, let them suppose, a Liberal. It would be found that the tenants of that L gentleman were rack-rented. (Hear, hear.) On the other hand She farms belonging to Conservative landlords were let so that tenants could live upon the cultivation of the soil. (Cheers.) If he were a tenant farmer he should prefer one,, of the county landlords to one of those new fangled landlords who came down from Birmingham or Manchester or some other place. Mr. Morgan Owen had referred to what Mr. David Davies had said at Newtown, that the" Legitlature must have intended that in such a case he might break his word, because they ex- pressly provided the means to enable him to promise one way and to vote the other." Now, was not that pointing out to the electors to tell a lie ? It struck the speaker that it did. Further on Mr. Green- bow, the ex-mayor, thought that when the screw was put uixra a voter it was better for him to break his promise given against his convictions than to vote in violation of them. He (Mr. Wynne) did think that was a pretty doctrine to be taught in the Board Schools—that the children should be taught, as he believed it would be taught, to tell lies. Lately the electors linct seen in the papers that Sir Watkin and Mr. George Kenyon had been very much upbraided for contributing to the expenses of the Wrexham Guardian, which was the most powerful Con- servative paper in the Principality. But was there any harm in what they had done ? Did not the Liberals contribute towards the expenses and towards the support af a great many other things much worse than the support of the Wrexham Guardian. If they as Con- servatives thought they could establish their honest con- victions by that way, why should they not be allowed to do so ? (Cheers.) As regards the question of peace and war, he thought the great statesman at the head of affairs ought to be congratulated upon the way in which he had pilotted the English Constitution through all the dangers which had lately beset it. (Hear, hear.) If he might be allowed to use the comparison, it was like a ship which he had guided to the port of peace, and, if he might be allowed to use the expression, was only waiting for the tide to take her into the harbour. (Applause.) Mr. CHARLES WYNN, M.P., referred to the pleasure he had in meeting with Mr. Bonsall, and afterwards moved a vote of thanks to him for having so ably occupied the chair that afternoon. Mr. W. W. E. WYNNE, Peniarth, rose to second the motion. It was the first time he had the pleasure of meet- ing Mr. Bonsall, but he knew that gentleman's father. He hoped the acquaintance that day would last as long as he lasted. Everything that was necessary had been so aoly said by those who had addressed the meeting, and, therefore, he would do no more than second the vote of thanks to Mr. Bonsall. (Applause). The CHAIRMAN said he was much obliged to Mr. Chas. Wynn aud Mr. W. W. E. Wynne for the kind manner in which they had spoken of him. He was, and he believed the meeting was, very much pleased with the address which had been delivered by their respected member. (Cheers.) It was a great many years since lie (Mr. Bon- sall) sawmr. Wynn girt with the sword as a knight of the shire, and he hoped the meeting would have Mr. Charles Wnnn as a representative of the county of Mont- gomery for many years to come. (Applause.) Mr..CHAIILES WYNN said before the meeting separated lie had one word of exhortation, and it was Trust to yourselves and not to agents, or anyone else. If you wish to ensure success in the ensuing contest whenever it comes, let each elector in his individual capacity and in his own neighbourhood do wha.t he can do best to establish it. One volunteer is worth more than ten pressed men. (Ap- plause.)

PENRHYNDEUDRAETH.

CARMARTHEN-

LLANFIHANGEL.

TREGARON.

LLEDROD UPPER AND YSTRAD MEURIG.

CORWEN.

.LAMPETER.

BORTH.

TOWYN.