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j~JULY 18, 1877.


JULY 18, 1877. NOTES. A BURIED MILL AT BRIDGNORTH.—In the year 1773, as we learn by a. paragraph in the Annual Register,— A collier discovered in a coal-mine, near Bridgnorth, in Shrop- shire, seventy-five yards below the surface, the ruins of a water- mill, and the skeleton of a man, without any head likewise the remains of some a.mmals, but in such an imperfect state, that thev could not even so much as conjecture their original figures. The learned there account for these things by imputing them to an earthquake which happened about two centuries ago. To what did the learned elsewhere impute them ? SCROBBES BYRIG. HARD TO KILL !—I have recently been looking over some of the earlier volumes of the Annual Register, and find the following entries of deaths of centenarians in the respective vols. of the dates mentioned :— 1767. Jane Holt of Wem, ICS. HGS. Jane Holt, near Ellesmere, 10S. 1709. Jane Holt, ill Shropshire, 105. In the second of these entries she is said to have survived her husband (who died at 1)9) ten years. For the present my examination has ceased with the vol. for 1769, but on some future occasion I may be able to record further deaths of this old lady. AULD SHROPSHEEK. COALBROOKDALE MANUFACTURES.— Shropshire has long been celebrated for the manufacture of iron, and I read, under date of "Newcastle, Feb. 26, 17t>3,"the following On Wednesday last was landed at Winkham Lee Coal Staith, for the use of Walker Colliery, a fire-engine cylinder, the largest that has ever been seen in this country, or perhaps in any other the diameter of tiie bore measures upwards of 74 inches, and it is 10i feet in length: it weighs, exclusive of the bottom and piston, 130 cwt. or tons, and, together with the piston and bottom, contains between 10 and 11 tons of metal. The bore is turned perfectly round, and well ^polished; and the whole is so complete and noble a piece of iron work, that it does the greatest honour to the foundry where it was cast, viz., Coal- brook Dale in the county of Salop. When the engine to which this cylinder appertains is compleated, it will have the force to raise, at a stroke, above 307 cwt. of water. D. QUERIES. FEARING FOR SUPPOSING.—The other day I received a letter from an Oswestrian, which belonged to me, but which he had opened in mistake. On the outside he had written I opened this fcCtring it was for me." Is this odd use of the word at all general in Shropshire ? SOJOCR.YER. MONTGOMERYSHIRE LIEUTENANCY. What was the nature of the meeting called in the follow- ing advertisement ?— MONTGOMERYSHIRE. GENERAL MEETING of the Lieutenancy of the County .1 of Montgomery, will he holden at the Royal Oak, in Welsh Pool, in the County of Montgomery, on Wednesday, the 17th Day of September next, at eleven o'Clock in the Forenoon JONES, Clerk of the General Meetings. Maesmawr, 26th August, ItSOO. The advertisement appeared in a Shrewsbury paper. BLACKPOOL. CYRN YR YXAIN BANNOG. The CWllb. Q' Mag., vol. 5, contains a letter from Mr. P. B. Williams, dated Havod, Carnarvon, May 1, 1833, as fol- lows :— Some years ago two horns were exhibited at Llanddewi-brevi, in Cardiganshire, which were called Cyrn yr Yxain Bannog," i.e., the horns of the large or celebrated oxen. The legend re- specting them was as follows:—"A lake in that part of the country was occupied by a large monster, by some called avanc, a beaver, by others y ddraig, the dragon, which infested the neighbourhood, and committed great depredations. At last, by the united efforts of the inhabitants, it was speared and wounded, and the yxain bannog were fastened to it, in order to draw it out, which eventually they succeeded in doing: but their exertions had been so great, that one of them died in con- sequence, and his partner lowed so mightily for the loss of his companion, that the mountain was rent in twain, and the place, from that circumstance, was denominated:Llau Ddewi Brevi, i.e., St. Davids of the Lowing or Bellowing. The above traditional tale is supposed to be allegorical, and to allude to the confuta- tion of Pelagianism at the synog of Brevi, about the year 522 by the two archbishops, St. Dubricius (Duvig) and St. David. According to this interpretation the two archbishops were the Xxain Bannog or celebrated Oxen, and Pelagius (Morgan) was the monster. The wonderful tale of the dividing of the moun- tain must be attributed to the same origin as that which reports that the ground on which St. David stood, in order to preach to the assembled multitude at the synod upheaved, and most miraculously elevated itself to the size of a pretty high hill under the holy man's feet namely, to the superstitious credulity of the age, which greedily swallowed all kinds of legendary tales and monkish fictions. What became of the horns referred to ? They would be a curious addition to the museum now in course of forma- tion at the University College of Wales. ELIOLA. Aberystwyth. REPLIES. SIGN BOARDS (Nov. 24, 1876).-The sign of the Carpenter's Arms in one of the little mountain villages of Monmouthshire proffers excellent advice to those who fre- quent the house, in the following doggerel:— Call softly, pay freely, Drink soberly, and depart quietly. H. LLYWELYN YOELGRWM (May 2, 1877.)-fil Notes and Queries, 20 December, 1856, Francis Robert Davies, inquiring for the arms of Llewellyn Voelgrwn, I adds" They are borne by his descendants, Davies of Peniarth. This family of Davies merged into that of Davies of Marrington Hall, representatives of the younger branch of Davies Guasanau, by marriage." R.E.D. HOTEL VISITORS BOOKS (July 12, 1876).- The following I copied while staying for a few minutes at the Peniarth Arms, Mallwyd, on Friday, Oct. 1,1875 :— Here one lives in health and bounty, If the weather should be tine, Not an inn in all the county, Gives one better food and wine. H.W. Also this :— "Swans sing before they die 'twere no bad tiling Should certain persons die before they sing. So sang a poet once-an(I so think I, Then I'll be dumb if Mallwyd's many charms, And only say to others, "Come and try The thousand pleasures of the Peniarth Arms." This was signed Ernest S. Hilliard, Ch Col:, Oxford." J.O.J. [The Tourist season having set in again, perhaps some of our readers will occupy their spare moments at Welsh hotels, in copying such effusions from the Visitors Books for Bye-nones', as may strike their fancy. Sometimes we get a gem.—ED. J WELSH AND BORDER PRESS (May 23, 1877). —I have an etching of Wrexham Church, by J. Boydell, dated 1748, sold by J. Payne, Bookseller, Wrexham. Perhaps this may be useful to Mr. Allnutt as fixing the actual date when Payne (see May 9) was in business at Wrexham. It is dedicated to Sir W. Williams Wynn, Bart., and is locally interesting, as it bears the following inscription above the clock dial, "The gift of W. Williams Wynn, Esq., 1735." I can still see a small gilded eagle upon the dial of the clock, but can discover no trace of the inscription as represented in the engraving. LAXDWOR. HILLS OF CARNAU IN CARDIGANSHIRE (.June 20,1877).—Your correspondent LLALLAWG calls intdk question the accuracy of the historian of the Princes of Wales, who states that the hills of "Carnau," where the battle of 1080 took place, are situated in Cardiganshire. LLALLAWG relies on the Gwentian Chronicles, and on the non-existence of any hill in Cardiganshire of the name of Carnau,' and fixes the place where the battle was fought at Llangattock in Breconshire. Let me inform LLALLAWG of the following fact:—Bordering a part of the Vale of Aeron, in Cardiganshire, is the well-known mountain commonly called Tichryg." The name has its origin in the existence of three mounds, comparatively near to each other tn chrug." On the slope of one of the "Crugiau," and on the edge of a narrow" pass" or cil" (Ciliau abound in the neighbourhood of the Aeron) is a snot called Mynydd y Castell"—a height comiLndfn^n extensive view of the country. At the back oAliis mountain is the hill called Mynydd y Carnau and at its foot a farm house called "Carnau". The form- ation of the ground here is striking. It is a deep hollow approached by a narrow pass, or" cil." Fifty years ago the attention of antiquarians was directed to this spot. The Carnau" in it were numerous and there was no difficulty in coming to the decision that they were remains of a great encampment, and particu- larly places of sepulture. One of them was examined and among other relics of war there was found a sword, which I believe, was for many years at Tymawr Cilcenin, and is now, I am told, at Glanrhydw, near Carmarthen. The present generation, within whose reach books have been brought, does not feel the same interest in traditional lore that its predecessors did. I remember, when very young, hearing a great deal from old people of the battles fought at "Cilcenin Mynydd of Castell" and "Carnau." They spoke of the battles having been fierce, and the slaughter terrible, and regarded the Carnau" as the place where thousands of their fellow countrymen lay pro- miscuously buried—buried "yn garnau" in "great heaps." This neighbourhood abounds in historic events -ma;ny for ever lost—still many that might by enquiry and research, be placed am<Mig the records of our county. Near to Carnau we have "Coed y Brenan" and" Ffald y Brenin"—many evidences of kingly dwelling Castle Cadwgan is within five miles of Carnau. OH an elevation known now as Banc Henfynyw, on the farm of Geraint, are to be seen the outlines of a great en- campment. Until within the last six years there stood on the spot a large upright stone, some feet high, which con- tained an inscription. I accidentally heard of its existence and went to inspect it. The inspection was a week too late, for within that time a workman, not knowinn. the historic value of the stone he dealt with, destroyed it, for the purpose of repairing a broken hedge close to it. Should LLALLAWG visit this neighbourhood, when I am sojourning here, I shall be glad to offer him hospitality, and assist him in his inquiries. J.G. Dolygwartheg.