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THE DOWLAIS DISABLEMENT FUND.

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THE DOWLAIS DISABLE- MENT FUND. FOR AND AGAINST. I I II. This week I begin with THE FUND'S PRESIDENT, Mr. David Jones, American Market. T ought to have started with him first of all, and would have done so only I failed to find him last week. He is a busy man, and it is no easy matter to catch him. I succeeded in doing >1, er, on Friday, and we had a few minutes' conversation in the little private office behind the shop. I am very glad,' said Mr. Jones, that you have undertaken this enquiry. The more searching the investigation the brighter will lie the fame of the Disablement Fun i. We ought to feel thankful to you for giving 1.1:3 the advertisement, as we want the public to know about the Fund, and to send in sub- scriptions." In reply to further questions of mine. Mr. Jones assured me emphatically that, at all events as far as be knew, politics had nothing whatever to do with the administration of the Fund. Nor was there any cliquism of any sort. Each application was considered on its own merit?, a.id no fir.ouritism was shown towards anybody. The money at the dispot-a.l of the committee was given to those who deserved it most. AN IMPORTANT PROPOSAL, W ould it be advi.tble, Mr. Jones," I asked him. to introduce new blood into the committee II" Yes, decidedly," he replied, t I have said 6U all along, and it has only been undef the greatest pres- sure that I have been induced to remain in the chair. The colliers themselves are partly to blame for the present state of things. We have made every offoit to get them to attend the geneial meetings, and have sent to every pit pressing invitations to that effect; but our efforts have been in vain. Now, in face of this, I tlll) going to lay it proposal before the committee. My proposal j" that the colliers be asked to elect officers and committee by ballot." "Butyou are in office for another yeai." I feel quite sure that my fellow-officers and the committee will agree to pa;: a self-denying ordinance, and be prepared to submit their names to be balloted upon at the pitrJ," That being 1:;U, the prupo al appearr, to me to be a most excellent one." I think it will serve to remove all faKe impres- sions, ai well ft3 to enlist more general sympathy with the Fund." Then I mentioned the drink question, remarking that some observations made thereon had already appeared in our columns. We relieve distress," said Mr. Jouee, in ut.õe;; of accidents or illness only where there is poverty. T do not think it lies within our province to enquire whether that poverty is due to intemperance, lack of thrift, gambling, or any other cause. Where we see a bniiaf.de workman unable tc pursue his calling, and also suffering the pangs of poverty, we relieve him. that is, Ii8 far as our funds will allow. We should like to relieve everybody, but as our resources are limited we cannot do that, and we draw the line at workmen who are possessed of property, relieving only those who, after careful investigation, we find to be destitute. MR. R. P. REES. CHEMIST, Yes," said Mr. Rees, I am deeply interested in the Fund question. I am one of the vice-presidents, andihave rendered what service T could in committee. Of late, however, the meetings ha\e been held on Fri- day nights, and my business being a prescribing one I am bound to be here personally up to a lata hour on those evenings therefore T have not been able to attend the meetings of the committee for some months. You will understand I cannot nay anything as to what may have transpired during that time." But generally, Mr. Rees ? As far as my experience goes, the administration of the Fund is absolutely above reproach. It has been done, I believe, as honestly and as straight- forwardly as fallible mortals could do it. There is no politics, no cliquisrn, no favouritism in any way. Though I have not been able to attend committee meetings of late, I have had no reason whatever to modify my attitude of friendliness towards the Fund, or to cease to repose the greatest confidence in the committee. The Fund is undoubtedly doing good work, and doing it in a proper way." You do not tind fault with the manner in which relief is doled out Speaking generally, 110. Every case is investi- gated by competent men, and no one gets relief unless he Btands in need of it. There is one little point, however, on which I have not always found myself in agreement with the majority ot the committee. As you are aware, no relief is granted to people who have a little money put by. I have often felt inclined to kick against that rule. For my own part I think I would extend a helping hand to people to tid. them over a season of difficulty, ev en though, by carefulness and thrift, they had managed to put by a penny for a rainy day. As things are now, these people would have to be reduced to penury before they would get any relief from the Fund. That is the only criticism I would pau on the administration of the Fund. All the money that is given goes where utter pov eri y pre- vails, and therefore no relief is granted to undeserving cases." With regard to those people whu have a little money put by, would it not be possible to lend them small sums in times of temporary distress, to lie re- funded afterwards in easy instalments I do not know. That matter has not been dis- cussed by the committee. Of course, in ninety-nine cases out of a hundred, repayment is unfortunately out of the queetiou. But whether It would be feasible in a few cases or not, I should not like to say without going into the matter very carefully." MR. W. MORGAN, J.P., PANT. When the Fund was started Mr. Morgan was a member of the committee, but he has long ceased to occupy that position. I asked him the reason why. Alderman Evan Lewid has already explained that point," said Mr. Morgan. "Themeetingo werb held at the Forge Hammer. Well, I am a temperanca man, and I did not like it. Then. on my proposal, we went to Bethania Schoolroom but the members hankered after the flesh pots of Egypt, and returned to the Forge Hammer. I told them I would not go with them, and I didn't. Thus from that time till now I have had nothing to do with the Fund." Beyond subscribing ? Quite so I send them a subscription every year So you have not lost faith in the Fund, Mr. 9 Morgan ? Ob no, nor yet in the committee. I believe the money is given out in a fair and proi*?r way, and that a great deal of good is done. I know there are rumours floating about from time to time about favouritism but I have never taken the trouble to investigate them, and I cannot say whether there is any truth in them or not. Stories of this sort will arise, even with the best and most perfect administra- tion possible." t'w A SERIOUS DEFECT. But the Fund has, in my opinion, one very serious defect. It is not a matter, as you will see, that reflects in any way on the present committee, as they are not to be neld accountable for it. What I refer to ip the fact that the Fund is limited to colliers. Why the ironworkers are not in it, I do not know. Possibly it is the fault of the ironworkers themselves. Still the fact remains that a considerable sum of money is collected every year from the tradesmen and the general public, and that every penny of it goes to the colliers. The colliers may require it, and may deserve it, as they no doubt do. But why leave out the iron men ? Who need help, perhaps, quite as much ? Unfortunately they need it a great deal more. Colliers earn, on an average, from thirty to thirty- five shillings a week, whereas the earnings of the iron men at present do not exceed an average of ten to twelve shillings a week." So it is the ironworkers really that ought to get public support, and not the cullier., ? Yes, if only one class is to be relieved. But what T say is, help the men all round, and place the two classes of workers on the same level." "Is it within the power of the Fund committee to bring about this change "I do not say it is. T do not know. lkt the change ought to be effected. If necessary, the public ought to take the matter into their own hands, and divide their subscriptions between the colliers and the ironworkers. I nles.i this is done, public interest in the Fund will wither away, and the subscriptions will fall off." WHAT THE MEN SAY. A collier 1 interviewed was bti-viigly of the opinion that the Fund was not now applied to its original purpose. In many cases it simply supplements the Poor Law. Relief has beeu given to people too lazy to work, and too neglectful to pay their clubs. The Fund was not meant for these peoplo, however deserving their cases may be on the score of poverty. The Fund was intended to relieve workmen disabled by accident or illness. All colliers belong to it. They are members of it in virtue of the 2d in the £ they pay to its funds. Therefore, every collier is entitled to relief when disabled, whether he lias a little money in his purse or not. The committee do their work fairly enough, according to the view they hold of the functions of the Fund but that view is wrong, and it not the original view of the founders of the Fund. New blood is aodly wanted in the committee, said this collier the same people have been at the helm from the start, and they form a clique which exercises great influence in politico. There should ha ve been a rule that a third or a half of the members retired ev ery year in rotatiou. I have also been two or three ironworkers with reference to the subject mentioned by Mr. W. Morgan. They told me that they had a fund of their own similar to the Disablement Fund. That is what they decided to do with the jd in the £ school levy when the school was transferred to the Board. They dole out the money in pensions to ironworker* past the age of labour. They receive no assistance as do the colliers in the shape of contributions from the general public, though they need it much more than the colliers, a" they ëllffer more from the depression of trade. I asked them whether the ironworkers had ever received an offer to join the Colliers' Disablement Fund, and they replied in the negative. A POLITICAL MACHINE." SIR,—Allow me, as a Dowlais workman, to thank you for taking up the question of the Disablement Fund. It sadly requires ventilating, and there are many things which need clearing up. Your corres- pondent-, I see from last week's pap< r, has already come across parts of the truth, and I ho|K» he will have more to say about the political aspect of the 4'.1 e.ition this week. The Disablement Fund is nothing mora or less than a political machine. I do not say but that the Fund itself i:t carried on fair and squure. I here are men on the committee, like the president and a few other-, who will not be parties to any olitieal jobberv. But the politics is done outside, and not in the committee meetings. There i" a crew of smart electioneer&rs on the committee, and they make Uie of their position to play their little games, and to strengthen their influence among the colliers. There are men to-dav in pubhc lifts who would not have, been there weie it not for the Disablement clique. What we waut uow i-: to break up this -< -? -?- clique, and to scatter them to the four winds. Dow- lais politic;" would be bealthier if that was done. The Disablement has been in their hands from the start, ¡' and it is full time they should be replaced by others. The men have no faith in them, only they are afraid of them. We want auollier cla-a of Labour leaders all round in Dowlais, Speaking generally, and not with special reference to the Disablement, a chaugo is to be desired. The men in the front have been theie loug enough. We want leaders with whom we can discuss our grievances freely and frankly and without otir 6t tear, not Shoni-boh-ochors whom we are afraid of. I have known Dowlais for 16 years, and never have things lieen in so unsatisfactory a condition as at the present day. Tin-re will ie no improvement as long as we are led by taproom oracles. Let us have leaders who will study the interests of the men first and foremost.— Yours, DOWLAIS WORKMAN. I Slii,-Iam very glad to find that you are deter- mined to obtain the opiuions cf various people in Dowlais as to what they think of the above Fund. For nivr-elf, I think it is a noble and philanthropic- ni institution, if conducted on a proper basis but unfor- tunately there seems to be a great deal of feeling (I will not say animosity) existing among subscribers that they are not treated with the respect due to them. Once a year they are called upon for subs, and that is all they know about the Fund. They have no knowledge what becomes of their money, as no balance sheet is sent them; they are D-,t invited to the committees, and not even to the annual meeting and dinner. I quite agree with the gentleman interviewed last week by your reporter, that the business is not carried on as it should be for a society of this kind, and,to all outside appearances, it seems as if the committee and officials are all self-elected. When I wao waited upon a few weeks ago for a sub I was told that a balance sheet would be sent me, and an intimation of the date of the annual meeting, but I received neither. Twas very sorry to read in your issue a few weeks ago o! the remarks made by the chairman of the Fund. Mr David Jones, A merican Stores, and also the letter of vour Dowlais correspondent- with reference to a W il oledgwr's remarks in Y Coii(Frens. I am greatly j surprised that men in their jiosition, who are sup- posed to be endowed with a great share of common sense and shrewdness, should have demeaned them- selves to u-e such language. Men holding public post* such as they do should always lay themselves open to criticism, and be moderate in their language. Unless this society is re constructed by next year, I am afraid tint they will find a great decrease ill the receipts, its. Ajiologosing for having taken up so much of your and enclosing my carel. I am, your-, &L- A SIBMCUIBER. Our Dowlais rejxirter writes :-In the editorial ntroduction to the interview, published in this journal last week, itis tated that I am a member of the Disablement Fund Committee, and, therefore, cannot '.•e regarded as holding impartial views on the ques- tion. The statement is untrue. T au; not, and never have been, a member of the committee. I was invited a couple of years to attend and report th.. meetings ot the committee, and 1 have endeavoured to do so to the best of my ability. I am, as the udltur states, all enthusiastic supporter of the Fund, because I know it is doing much good work, and because I feel it is being properly and honestly administered. I audited the accounts last year, and I may state that a more straightfoiward statement was never placed in my hands. I have never said a word at any of the meet- ings except when my opinion has been asked. With the editoi's permission, I will, as the lawyers say, reply upon the whole case for the Fund when its oppo- nents have had their bay. Meanwhile I re-echo the appeal of -he editor that the public will suspend judg- ment until the whole case is before them.

IAMBULANCE WORK AT IDOWLAIS.

THE ANCHOR ELECTRICAL WORKS.

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