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THE PROPOSED RAILWAY TO ABER. AS RON. COMMISSIONERS'INQUIRY. A public inquiry wai held at the Town Hall, on, Monday by the Eiri of Jersey and Colonel Boaghay, Lixht Railway Commissioners, in the matter of an applicat on by the promotora of the Vale of Wei.wl Light Railway Company for an order ta authorise the Aberayron extension, which provides for the con- struction of a light railway from Aberystwyth to Aber- ayron, taking in tl,e villager of Llanddeimol, L'anrhystyd, Llauor, Aberarti, «nd other pianos on the rout" The Court was crowded with persons drawn from Aberayron ana the intervening district* interested, amongstthrm being :—Maj r Price Lew,,s, Typl n Aeron Rev. W. H. Sinnett; Major Ilugh^j, A1 tlwyd Mr Munro Hoghoa, Aberayron B>w- J; M. Grinithf, Aberayron Mr John Williams, Black Lion, Mr J. W. Morgan, postmaster, and Mr Evan Jones, Moelifor, Llanrhystyd Mr J. M. Howell, ironmonger, Mr B. Jones, clerk to the Guardian", Mr F. Lim t. Jones. chemist, Mr David Evans, Red Lion, Mr J. H. Jones, draper, Mr Piarjcii Evanc, merchaot. Mr John Davies, London Heasp, Capt. Evans, merchant, Mr D. Pennant James, solicitor, Mr J. William?, groocr, Mr John Davies, Feathers Hotel. Mr John Davifs, Ynys Houso, Mr John Evans, watchmaker, MfDatw Davies, Swan, Mr John Jone". auctioneer, Mr William Evar*, relieving officer, Mr John Jones. Penral:twen, and Mr Evan Evanc, Tynant, Aberayron; Ca?t. D. Jenkins, "Alicia," Capt. D. Jones, Ddol, Mr John Williams, wheelwright, Mr Henry Thomas and Mr "Jvlln Davies, Aberarth; Major Hughes, Alltlwyd, Capt. David Jonea. Tynffynon, Mr John Morgan, Glan Vedaa, Councillor Morgan, The Green, Mr John Davies, grocer, Mr David Price, Morfamnwr, Mr Kvan Row'ans, Pontanamlwg, Mr Daniel JMWS, Shop, Capt. Wm. Jones, Clarovin* House, and Mr Evaue, D< lfclcdao, Llannon. Mr A. J. Hughesappcared in support of the appli- cation, whiht Mr Poole, the secretary of the Man. che-tor and Milford Railway, appeared to oppose on behalf of his Company, Mr F. R. Robertt being also present to follow the proceedings, on behalf of some of the landowners interested. Mr Hughes said their application was ti obtain the sanction of the Commissioners to an extension of the Vale of Rheidol Railway, which was incorporated by an Act last session to connect the Devil's Bridge with Aberystwyth. Their present application was for an extinsion of that light railway fr)m Aberystwyth to Aberayron. Aberayron wa-i sitaatad some sixteen miles away from Aberystw; th, and the railway would i-erve several very important villtges on the route. Llanychaiarn would bo the first village, Llanddeiniol coming next, with the important villages of Llan- rhystyd, Llanon and L'ansantfread further up the line. Farther on again tb,y had Aberartn, with the terminus at Aberayron. His Lordship wonldseot-at this part of the conoty bad no railway facilities nearer than Lampeter, which was distant from Aberayron about thirteen miles. In addition to the places he had just mentioned there were other districts which he might refer to as being interwi-ted, these being New Quay, Llanarth, which lay to the south of Aberayron and some seven or eight miles away. From the village of Llanon down to New Qnay, up to the time of the establishment of the local railways, a considerable shipping traie was carried on at these places, but it hal since dwindled down until there was ^practically no trade at all. As far back as 1868 Sir James Szlnmper purveyed the land with the view to the con- struction of an ordinary Vange railway between Aber- ystwyth and Aberayron, but of course the heavy out- lay dependent upon sncii a scheme pnt the matter out of the power of the promoters, and the idea had to bn abandoned. But the difficulty of communication bl tweem t1 at place and Aberayron, and the great dis-advantiges fxperienced by farmers in bringing their produce to market and tikinir supplies back to their farms wasn-till keenly flt all that. time. The farming interest had suffered materially all that t me. Aiz,in there was very considerable passenger traffic, but referring once more to the agricultural interest, Mr Hughes remarked that there was a large tract of land in the district, which would be served by the railway, impoverished from the want of manure and lime. And it was a fact that farmers in the district of Lianaitb, Aberayron and other places inland from the sea along thu route had suffered mater-ally through being unable t, compete with farmers else- where having railway facilities. There was a very CODS derab e passenger and goods traffic between Aberystwyth and Aberayron, and no doubt these other places on the eea ci ast were capable of consider- able development. Large numbers of visitors fre- quented Aberayron and New Quay during the summer season, but there was very considerable delay in the The*Earl of Jersey s I suppose this is done by coach n°Mr Hughes replied this was so, adding that the gradients on the road being very bad, the average time taken by the journey was three hours, the dis- tance being 16 miles. The carriage of goods he was told by one of the witnesses was .£1 per ton from Aberystwyth to Aberayron, which would give his Lordship some idea of the district. At one time Aberayron and Llanarth were places which held the leading position in Cardiganshire in reference to their tairs and markets. It was not very far from Aberayron that the Dalis fair, a sort of Bamett fair in Wales was formerly held. The fair had dwindled down, and the Aberayron market now existed simply in name only. Mr Hughes then called Sir James vV. Sslumper, who said he was a mem. ber of the Institute of Civil Engineers, and bad for the last thirty years bad an official connection with the county of Cardigan. He knew entirely the whole of the county, and he thought the whole of its require. ments He bad also the honour of being the sheriff of the county that year. He was aUo the engineer of this scheme, and had.prepared the plans, sections and estimates for the same. The proposed railway would be 16 miles 3 furlongs, or nearly 161 miles in extent. The estimated cost of the con-traction, exclaBive of the land was a little under .£50,000. making- an average of a little over £ 3,000 per mile. The line of route t assed through several large villages, and he did not know of any other district in the county of Cardigan where there was such a large population as this, and with suoh large villages on the route, unprovided with railway accommodation. It was nearly 30 years ago since he was first instructed in reference to a railway from that place to Aberayron, an ordinary gauge being at that time intended. The ordinary gauge was so expensive as to l e ontirely out of the question for such an hilly district as this. A two foot gauge wjuld answer the purp. se, and ceuld be con. struoted at such a rati as would make it remunera. tive. It would be similar in all r-speots to the Festiniog railway, a well worked and useful line. The proposed line would start a short distance from the terminus of the Vale of Rheidol Railway, and from an engineering point of view there would be no diffi. culties if the line was constructed on a two foct gauge. The steepest gradient would be 1 in 45, which was not a severe gradipnt for a narrow gauge railway. The sharpest curve on the line would be one of five chains, which wa-* an eaqy curve for atwofootgauge. For a long distance the line would be a surface one, the number of public roads crossed on the level being four. They did not interfere with any important roads, these being only bye roads. Replying to the Earl of Jersey, Sir James Szlumper said that be considered con. tinuous brakes and many other stringent require. ments of the Board of Trade unnecessary in connec- tion with light railways. There was one rather long gradient, 1 in 45, but be could eay that he had worked gradients steeper than this and longer without con. tinuous brakes in that neighbourhood. The weight of the t ain was also nothing like that of an ordinary gauge. Neither were the trains run at a very high speed, and he wished in that part culiar case to be relieved of their stringent requirements. The Rev Mr Sinnett, who said he was owner of some two miles of land through which the proposed railway would run, asked for certain information respecting the proposals of the promoters in the event of the railway being run through and dividing a field.. Sir James Szlumper replied that these matters were always provided for. nr-n ■, Mr Poole, Secretary of the Manchester & Mutord Railway Company, raised the point that Mr Hughes bad given the Commission to understand that the construction of the railway would be the means of faking away a good deal of the traffic of the M. & M. Railway, but Sir James Szlumper replied that the new line would not effect the Manchester and Milford, remarking that the suggestion-was absurd. Replying to the Earl of Jersey, Sir James Szlumper said they proposed erecting snail stone stations, with sufficient yard accommoda- tion for the purposes of the traffic. Mr Poole Do you propose having a station at Llanrhystyd Road ? > Sir James f zlnmper s I intend having a station in a place suitable to the village of L'anychaisrn. Mr A. J. Hughes Then we shall have healthy competition. The Chairman of the County Council, who resides at Lampeter, can't arrive this morning owing to no train reaching the town until 12.30 (applause). We might have an earlier train then (laughter). Sir James Szlumper remarked that that station would be 2l miles outside the town, but he might t-ay that the larger number of people walked into town from that place. Mr Hughe* Who would snffer to come in at twebe o'clock. The fairs are over then. Sir James Szlumper remarked that he had received no uptkee. of these questions, otherwise be would bare beef prepared, Mr'Hughes then rroceeded to put in various com- munications and resolutions rscoived from public ho'lios iu 1 k dis'riu-. Tin- fii"t wai a <e!p £ t\im (r«m the Cha-rm^n of t- e «>unt? Conr.cil which ?tVe I that he was unable to i-eii-ii Aberystwjth before twelve o'clock, and that the proposed raihvayhaitha approval of the Council, Mr Richard Edwards, Little Darkgatj street, presented a resolution passed by the Guardinns and District Scheme, and Mr Hughes also handed in resolutions passed by the Llanychaiarn, Llannon, Llanddeiniol, and Llanrbystyd Parish Councils favourable to the scheme. He also read letters from Mr Lewis, agent of the Nanteo3 eetito, Mr Saunders, of the Tymawr estate, ani Mrs Lewes. Llatiaeron, which werj in the same strain. Major Hughes, of Alltlwyd, another large landowner, Mr Hughes remarked, was also present to show his approval of the scheme. Having mentioned the general co-operation found on 1111 hands, Mr Hughes thought he might say that with the exception of the Manchester and Milford Railway Company-who he expected to fatisfy also-there was an unanimous feeling in respect to the scheme. Mr J. M. Howell, of Aberayron, was then called, and stated that he was the Chairman of the Standing Joint Committee of the County, an ex-chairman of the County Council. He bad been resident all his life at Aberayron, and bad an intimate knowledge of the requirement of the district. There was con- siderable fishing carried on off this coast, fole, turbot, brill and herrings in lanre quantit es being amongst the fish caught. The fishing ground lies right opposite the town of Aberayron, being just six miles outside. The market which the fishermen sent their fish to was chiefly Liverpool, the fish being sent through Aberystwyth. This entailed the beats salling up ton or twelve miles to get their fish away by rail, and of course the time taken in returning to the grounds apa'n meant a great loss of time to the fishermen. Witness was of opinion that if the fish could be landed at Aberayron or Llanon, with proper railway facilities that the in. dustry would be materially increased. Eton at this time a considerable number of Hoylake trawlers, as well as others from Aberyftwyth, Aberayron, and New Quay were seen fishing in that ground. Witness .aid he could also apeak of the fairs which existed before the Arrival of the Manchester and Milford railway. Fairs were held at Llanarth and Aberayron several times during the year. One of them Dalls fair was known throughout tho whole of England. The Dalis fair was frequent d by a large number of buyers from England, and via much as J>50,000 changed hands for horses at the fairs. It was computed that during the course of the year that as much as X120,000 used to be t>»k«n at those fairs. The Dalis fa:r had died Dot, and the Llanarth fair had also oecome very small indeed. Dealing with Aberayron Mr Howell ?aid this was a town with considerable accommodation for visitors, and he anticipated that the provision of railway facilities would benefit them and the place would develop into an important watering pbce. Mr Howell at this stage handcid th'3 Commissioners some excellent photographs of the town and neighbour- hood. Mr Howell paid he was also well acqnainted with Llanon, another place which had considerable accommodation which might be utilised by visitors. The construction of the railway would not only benefit Aberayron, but Llanarth and the district intervening on to New Quay and the Vale of Aeron would also be benefitted. There was a h^rbonr at Aberayron, and considerable, trade was done there at one time, but this had diminished considerably through wact of railway facilities. The carriage of goods from Lam- peter to Aberayron came to about ^6i p"r ton. They had a steamer running between Liverpool and Bristol, and if they had this railway facility this service could be materially improved, through the gooiis being taken up the line to Llannon and the other different places. Assuming they were successful in getting the line to Aberayron, the remaining six miles necess- ary to connect New Quay would be ea-y work. They had been agitating in that district for a railway, but bad not succeeded yet. There was a vi-ry large traffic bttween Aberystwyth and New Qnay. The passenger traffic between Aberystwyth and Aberijrcn was con- siderable during the year. On the way up that morn- ing they passed no less than eighteen omnibuses, each providing accommodation for from 16 to 24 persons. Every possible enthusiasm was shown at Aberayron in favour of the railway, and it was absolutely essential for the requirements of the fishermen, farmers and tradesmen of the district that they should have this railway accommodation. Mr F. R. Roberts remarked that there were some gentlemen in the room, whilct in no way opposed ta the railway, which would no doubt be an enormoub advantage to the neighbourhood, that would like some explanation as to detuls. Mr Hughes pointed out that their Order provided for the deviation of their line, and the Earl ot Jersey gave Mr Roberts to uuderstind that he would have t very opportunity of putting any questions he do-nred to Sir James Sjsluniper. Mr Poole, addressing Mr Howell, suggested that he hoped by having this now railway to bring the fairs back to Aberayron from Lampeter, Tregaron and other places? Mr Howell: We simply want our legitimate trade back. We want our people to put their cattle on the market within reasonable distance of their holdings. Proceeding with his evidence, the Witness referred to the great reduction in the popu ation of the district, which he attributed to the decline of the agricultural industry of the county. They bad lost a large number of the young men who formerly worked on the faruis, who had gone to Glamorganshire, and the farming industry neutrally was looking down. The land was also greatly impoverished through the want ot artificial manures, and in proof of this the Witness mentioned the reduced rents of some of the farms in the neighbourhood of Aberayron. He attributed this \>ta.te of things to the absence of proper railway facilities. M"jor Price Lewes, Tyglyn Aeron, confirmed from his own knowledge all that bad been said by Mr J. M. Howell. He took great interest in the oonetruc. tion of light railways, and nearly nine years ago he brought forward a motion dealing with the same at the County Council. In 1889 the County Council passed a resolution inviting the other Councils of Wales to oo'operate in submitting a s heme to be presented to Government oatling attention to the great necessity for these light lailways. The resolu- tion was passed with great enthusiasm, and from that day the greatest intereet had been maaifost tn the county for these light railwaye. So much so that when the first Light Railway Association meeting was held in London, a very large number of repre- sentatives went up from Cardiganshire, including the Lord Lieutenant of the County, the County Member, and several justices. The district interested in this railway had been greatly handicapped for want of railway communication, The farmers had suffered very much indeed, and the owners of estates h&d consequently suffered also. Mention had been made of the Llanarth fairs, and thu long distances they were situated from any railway station. Dealers would not go suoh long distances to attend fairs, and when the farmers took their cattle all the way to Lampeter, a very long distanoe, they preferred selling them for any price than bring them back all the way again. No doubt the farmers suffered terrib y as thiDgs were at present situated, and they would be immensely benefitted by the conatiuution of that light railway. As to the little places along the route, Major Lewes said they ttood in charming situations, and were eapable of considerable development, and occupying extremely sheltered positions would make favourable winter resorts. Not only on the way to Aberayron, but 011 the coast of Cardigin also there were beautiful.spots which could be opened up w:th great advantage. And, added Major Lewes, those of them who took an interest in the matter, and be believed the whole county did this, hcped to Eee the entire county in time opened up with light railways, and to ensure the Commission that interest was being taken in the matter he would say further that several gentlemen, farmers and otners intere-ted. so hopeful of getting the railway ha I travelled 18 miles that, morning to be present. Mr A. J. Hughes remarked that he mieh: say that these gentlemen had come from New Quay, Aber. ayron, Llannon, and Llanrhystyd, considerable distances, and all he might say were representa.tive men, in the hope of inducing the Commissioners to consent to that, Order. Capt David Jones, Ty'nffynon, having briefly con- firmed the previous Witnesses, Mr D. C. Roberts was called. He said he attended as a deputation on behalf of the Aberystwyth Town Council to support the scheme. He confirmed the evidence tendered by previous witnesses. Carrying on the business of timber merchant at Aberystwyth he was able to speak of the trd.de of the district. Railway facilities would greatly benefit the important inland districts lying between Aberystwyth and Aber- ayron. The carriage pa'd between that place and Aberayron was that great that it was quita impossible to carry on any trade between the two places. Personally he tent some timber down the other day, and it cost over 153 per ton, although it was sent in large waggon loads. Mr John Evans, an Aberayron timber merchant, confirmed Mr Roberts' statement. Mr Hughes did not think it necessary to trouble the Commissioners with any further evidence, but The Earl of Jersey suggested that it would be well to have the evidence of some farmers. Mr EVan Jones, Moelitor, and Mr Evin, Tynant, were then called and reiterated the testimony borne by the other Witnesses. Mr F. R. Robert-i said he appeared on behalf of several gentlemen whose property the line would run through. He had not had an opportunity of going minutely into the plans,but one gentleman in particular objected very strongly to the proposed route. Mr Morrii Paries, pf Ffeirbjrtysledj wbifib restfeaoe was situated about five miles outside tLa t >wn, was the owner also of prope ty near the vil age of L'&uy- chniarn, souse thr ^e miles from the t uvn of Aberystwyth, which was known as Cwm;o'J- wig. He would lik^ to know within how many yards of the mansion did the railw iy no ? Sir James Szlumper replie t that a public road ran between the ralb ay aad the honse, and that the line could not be seen from the house. Mr Morris Davies had never lived at Cwmcoedwig he believed one cf his sisters lived there. Sir James was quite sure that the line could not be seen from any windows of the house. Mr Roberts calling attention to another section of the route, Sir James Szlumpcr said he h:td made careful ex- amination of the whole route, and he would unhesi- tatingly say that this was the only practicable and economical way of carrying out the railway. He had the construction of this railway under consideration, of course he did not mean to say undivided consider- ation. for the last thirty year". Mr Poole said he was inetructed to appear there that day by his directors. Mr Szlumper having inquired whether Mr Poole had any question to put to him. went on to say that he wisbei to give the Manchester and Milford Rail- way Company every credit for the work they had done. lbey bad served the middle of the county well, and the service of trains was about as perfect as railways such as those could be made. Very great improvements had been made of late, and it was now almost in perfect or lor; he knew this perfectly well because he happened to be the engineer of that rail- way. (Laoghbr). In his own opinion this proposed railway would not deteriorate or interfere with the existing Manchester and Milford Railway. That rail- way was now being worked by an order of the Court of Chancery, a manager and receiver boingl appointed by that Court, and he bad been appointed by the manager and receiver ten ot twelve years ago as their engineering alviser. And he would unhesitat- ingly say that the construction of this proposed rail- way would not in any way interfere with the Man- Chester and Milford, but wonld be the means of bringing further and additional traffic into the district. It was absurd and impossible for the Man- chester and Milford Railway, much as he loved it, to prevent the railway benefitting a district so many miles away from that line. Mr Poole said he was present by the desire of his directors to oppos) lha Order for making the line, not through any hostile spirit to the proposed line, or to the inhabitants and Al eryatwyth and the district. The construction of the Manchester and Milford Railway had cost three quarters of a million of money, 1 and he was rather surprised t) find several persons in that room that day laughing because a train did not get there by half-past twelve. They bad the benefit of the three quarters of million spent on that line, with- out contributing anything towards it. Mr Poole sub- sequently informed the Commissioners that he had not recElived tho required notices respecting the application, and that he knew nothing about the line until he received notice from his Lordship's office. Sir James Szlumper said this was totally untrue. < Mr Poole replied that be would say that that was perfectly truo. No notice was served upon the See. ) retarv of the Company, who was legally the repre- sentative of the Company. Mr Hughes said they had most oerhinly complied with the standing orders in this matter, and t) pa.y that the Company were ignorant of the whole matter ] was not correct. i Mr James Szlamper said that in order to put the ( matt r straight he might say that he gave the man- 5 a-^er and receiver of thi Company, appointed by the Court of Chancery, full particulars of the plans as c long back as November.Jast, and that he wroti to the Chairman of the Company giving a full account of the s details of the line ho (Sir James) wa* certain of. 1 Mr Poole adhered to his i-tatement, rema-king that t he had had no means of bringing the matter to the 1 notice of his bo^rd. 1 Mr Hughes said ho understood Mr Poole to say at the outset that the Board had instructed him to oppose. Mr Poole replied that those instructions were given ( after the receipt of the Commissioners' letter. Mr Hughes When was that meeting hAld. Mr Poo e On the 31-t of March at the Great ( Westsrn Hotal, Paddingt n. 1 The Earl of Jersey remarking that the question of c competition was a matter for the Board of Trade, I Mr Hughes remarked that he would not trouble his Lordship further. c The Earl of Jer-ey said there was the question of capital rema-ning to be dea t with. c Sir James Szlumper said he ought to have referred t to this. His Lordship would see by the proposed t order it was intended t-) ke<-p the capital with refer- ence to the Aberayron extension separate They 1 would have separate capital,^separata accounts, and separate revenue and dividends. ( The question of spead-waerthen raised by the Com- missioners. sir James Szlumper replied that the speed would I certainly be nothing over 20 miles an hour; he would Ð say 16 or 18 miles an hour would be fa t enough. r Mr fL C. Fryer banded in a map of the district giv- ing the different populations of the villages for the ( benefit of the Commissioners and referred to the central i position occupied by Aberayron. In former years the i Qnait^r Sessions peed to meet at Aber 'yron, as it wa* f tie most central place ia the county, and when the ( County Counods came itit) operation it was then I arranged that the Council meetings should be held t alternately at Aherayron.1 hrough the difficulty ex- ( perienced in getting to Aberayron this arrangement I fell through, it being arranged to bold one meeting 1 only at Aberayron during the yeat, the nstto be held at Lampeter. "jJ Mr Gardiner, Wdnal'.t, Cro&Rwood, gave evidenoe M the representative ot Lird Lisbarne, He stated i that his Lorship strongly *PProvedof the oonttruotion of the railway. Still he -desired, to call attent on to the desirability of eertaiu flight deviations in the line of route. MrlHugheB remarked tfta^'aa long as such deviations were reasonable and' jfr^ftvctyble every attention ] would be paid t > the same* ( Sir James Szlumper thought Mr Gardiner might < take his word that wlltjQ the railway was in course of < construction they would be consulted, and unless it t incurred unreasonable additional expense he under- ] took t.) carry the line through Lord Lisbarne's land in the manner he wished it to go. < Mr Gardiner observed that that was very satis- < factory. The Rev Mr Sinner having raised a question in 1 reference to his property, Sir James Salumper remarked that what he had said in reference t) Lord Lisburne's property would I apply the same to all the landowners. i The Earl of Jersey closing the inquiry remarked i that they had apparently assumed that the Commis- sioners would recommend the granting of the Order, I adding that he thought it neoesaary t;)at the district ] should have better communication than it possessed at present (app anpe).

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