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GREAT CONSERVATIVE MEETING AT CARDIGAN. MR LLOYD, M.P., and his CONSTITUENTS. TRIUMPHANT RECEPTION. According to an announcement, Mr T. E. Lloyd, M.P. for the county, addressed his constituents at the Guildhall, Cardigap, on Satnrday, and met with a most brilliant reception from an extremely large meeting of a highly representative character. The ban. gentleman, who was accompanied by Mrs and Miss Lloyd, was met at the Pontyclefon gute, about half a mile from the town, by a numerous body of friends of the Conservative cause, and amid the heartiest cheering, the horses were immed- iately unharneted, and ropes having been attached to the carriage, the party proceeded at a rapid pace into town, passing through Finch's Square, St. Mary-street, and High-street, to the place of meeting, the whole route being alive with spectators, who gave Mr Lloyd and his family a perfect ovation. The hall was rapidily filled, the company including the whole of the gentry of the neighbourhood a very large number of farmers from the district including from Cardigan to Aberporth, Llangranog, and New Inn, on the one side, and Llandyssul, on other the whole of the intermediate county, com. prising Llangoedmore, Troedyraur, &c., being well represented. A large number of ladies also graced the proceedings with their presence. Mr Lloyd was accompanied on the platform by Mr J. B. Bowen, M.P.. Mr C. Marshall Griffith, Q.C., Col. Lewis, Clynfiew Captain Jordan, Pigeonford; Captain I Parry, Tyllwyd; Mr H. D. Jenkins, Cilbronau Mr T.H.Brenchley, Glaneirwj Mr W. Buck, Stradmore; Capt. Gower, &c. On the motion of Mr Buck, Cipiaiu Jordan was voted to the chair. Captain Jordan, in opening the proceedings, thanked them for voting him chairman of such an important representation meeting, which was con- vened to hear their worthy representative, Mr Lloyd, address his constituents. He for one believed on public grounds that a deep debt of gratitude was due to Mr Lloyd for coming forward five years ago to espouse their cause when it was in danger, and to relieve them from mis-represention. Mr Lloyd had carried out their interests so satisfactorily and fervently that he bad no doubt they would trust him again, and be would continue to serve them with the same sincerity and faithfulness as before. Mr Lloyd, on rising, was received with the warmest reception, the cheering being continued for some time. He said-Mr Chairman, Ladies and Gentlemen. The first thing I wish to do to-day is to thank you for the hearty welcome you have accorded me. I can assure you I feel the honour deeply, and take it as an earnest of that success which awaits me at the time of trial. (Hear, hear.) I desired to meet my Cardiganshire friends to-day in order to refute certain charges which have been brought against the Government, and also to allude to certain statements made in this county, both as regards myself and the present Government. (Ap- plause.) The charges I refer to are of a very serious nature, but notwithstanding this, I feel con vinced that I shall satisfy you that they are erron- eous and mistaken. (Cheers.) I maintain that if they had done otherwise than they did, there would have been some foundation for these imputations. In the first place, they are charged with going to war unnecessarily. They are charged with having so encumbered our commercial relations with foreign Powers that it has prevented or thwarted our trade so effectively as to render it in that posi- tion which we have been compelled to deplore for several years past. The Government is also charged with spending large sums of money which there was no necessity to spend, leaving us in a most wretched financial condition. Before I proceed to notice these accusations, I wish to allude to the political tour through Cardiganshire made recently by Mr David Davies and Mr Lewis Pugh, my opponent in the field at the next general election. (Ap- plause.) The tour was arranged, apparently, for the purpose of introducing Mr Lewis Pugh to the constituency. I should have thought, gentlemen, that Mr Pugh, being a native of the county, was quite independent of the assistance of such a man as Mr Davies-(hear, hear)-in attaining this end. I think, however, the electors are sufficiently en- lightened and educated in pelitics to choose a representative for themselves—(hear)—and J can- not perceive that any great compliment has been paid to them when such a course of procedure is adopted. (Hear, hear.) The favourable point, or rather the qualifications which Mr Davies imagined would secure a certain return for hit friend and nomiRee, was "handsomeness"—(laughter)—and we accordingly find Mr Davies recommending his adopted to tke constituency in words to the effect that "Mr Pugh is a very handsome man." (Loud laughter.) Th's was the reason which Mr Davies advanced as cousiituting the cand'date's claim to represent Cardiganshire in Parliament. (Laughter.) Probably Mr Davies thought that this beg-ity" would make up any deficit which the handsome candidate might have in the necessary qualifica- tions for a member. (Cheers.) He also mentioned a fact which struck me as being rather peculiar. He recommended Mr Pugh to the electors with a statement to the effect that it was probable that Mr Pugh would some day occupy the position of a Cabinet Minister. (Loud laughter.) And Mr Davies though i: that these observations would so dazzle the electors that Mr Pulth's rejection would be a moral impossibility. (Continued laughter.) If Mr Pugh should be elected it will certainly be the first time in the history of Cardiganshire Jhat an Adonis had been recommended to its constitu- ency, sitting on the moaey bags ot a contractor (Roars of laughter.) At Aberaeron Mr Davies, whilst on his visiting tonr, offered to the inhabi- tants of that town the sum of XI5,000 wherewith to construct a railway, and he did this whilst can- vasing the county on behalf of his friend, Mr Pugh. (Applause.) Another complaint made against me is that I neutralise the vote of Mr Davies in Parlia- ment. (Cheers.) This peculiar accusation is very remarkable, as the two constituencies are not by any means identical. Mr Davies appears to have forgotten that his constituency only numbers about 2,000 electors, whereas mine consists of about 4,G00, and if Mr Davies' complaint meaat anything it would have been rather that he neutralized my vote, than I his. (Applause.) He was asked a short time ago what he did in Parliament, and his reply was, I watch Mr Lloyd." (Laughter.) I have no doubt the electors of Cardiganshire appre- ciate the attention he pays to Parliamentary duties, but for my own part it seems be an entirely new part of the member of the House of Commons' duty. (Hear ) Mr Pugh again says, I am guided in the divisions by the Tory whip, that I always vote with the Government whatever the nature of the proposi. tion may be. This I deny. When I think the Goverment right I vote with them, but whenever the policy pursued appears, in my estimation, to be unsound, I oppose it. (Applause.) When Mr Yivan brought forward his motion for granting money to the cause of higher education in Wales, which the Government refused, I thought it my duty to vote against them. (Applause.) All the Welsh members united on that occasion, and went into the lobby determined, sooner or later, some- thing should be done. (Loud cheers.) I cannot see that our labour was in vain, as Lord George Hamilton has since intimated some- thing ought to be done for higher education. I may now dismiss this part of my address by ask- ing if Mr Pugh was returned what would he do ? Why, he would do the very same thing he charges me with—only he would follow the Liberal Whip (laughter and applause). I will now touch upon the foreign policy of the Government in the three wars most prominently before us, namely, the Russo- Turkish, the Afghan, and the Zulu wars. In 1876 Russia assumed an open hostile attitude against Turkey she get up the cry of the Christians being oppressed, the Bulgarian atrocities, to., as a pretext for going to war, but we all know her object was to seize upon Constantinople, and not to ameliorate the conditions of the Christians under Turkish rule. Well, the Emperors of Germany and Austria, with the potentates of other powers, asked us to join in what was called the Berlin Treaty, but England refused because she would not be false to her treaties with Turkey (cheers). A conference then took place at Constantinple, in which England joined, but owing to the stupidity of the Turks it fell through, and the consequence was that Russia declared war. The position that England took up was one of neutrality, so long as Russi&did not take Constantinople. As everyone expected, Russia was victorious, and when she was on the point of taking Constantinople England stepped in, and after cer- tain overtures on the part of Russia, which England resisted, Russia had to give in, and instead of a weak Bulgaria we have new a strong Bulgaria Servia has been set free, aud Rounoelia made into a state under the Suzerraincy of the Porte (cheers) The Russian press has never tired of debating upon the country's misfortunes as regarded the result of the war, and the upshot was that the Eastern ques- tion was settled by England without bloodshed, and at a small cost (loud cheering). The Crimean war cost us £ 100,000,000, and we lost, with our lives 100,000 men. Is it not therefore a source of the I greatest congratulation that England hfts been able to avert an Eastern war for a sum of jSG.000,000, and that, genilemen, was nearly all spent in pro- viding ships and stores which the previous Govern- ment had let go too low, and for necessaries for our Army and Navy (applause). The next complaint is that we went to war with Afghanistan without necessity, but I will show you that the war was backed on by Russia. She sent a peaceful mission to Cabul, but we all know what Russia's peaceful missions mean; as a proof look at Polsni, look at Turkey, and later still look at Turkestan (cheers). Mr Pugh says Russia did not like our interference no one denies it, but Mr Pugh did not tell you thut Russia was under guarantee to England not to meddle in Afghan affairs, yet in spite of these guarantees she sends her mission to Cabul. Our mission was strong, peaceful, and friendly to Afghanistan that country is the nates of India; the Ameer was friendly with ux, but when Russia stepped in, we found our mission roughly refused admission. It would never have done to leave Afghanistan in the hands of Russia, and by going to war we at once secured the passes (cheers). We found we could not trust the Ameer any longer, and by doing what we have we secured India for ever (prolonged applause). As regards the sad murdt-rof our euvov, there is every reason to be- lieve that was not a political murder but one perpe- trated by fanatical, unpaid troops, as a proof of the correctness of which the Ameer came into our camp and accompanied our troops to Cabul, which was entered.* few days ago (cheers). As regards the cost, the Afghan war was considered more an Indian than a home war, and the burden of the ex- pense would fall upon India; therefore when Mr Pugh says that this country will be taxed for the costs of the war he says what is not true. Mr Pugh isi not yet a cabinet minister, and it is rather too much for him to speak without occasion on this sub- ject (cheers). I now come to the Zulu war. It was well known that the Zulu King was getting arms &c., into his kingdom preparing for action of some kind, as he had given out the white man must be driven into the sen, and his motto was "Africa for the Blacks." Sir Bartle Frere took action, and it must be admitted that action must have been taken sooner or later, for if the Zulu King had been allowed to get farther h« woul}. have attacked Natal, and the whites would have been massacred. I had a brother in Natal, and his letters to me for years bore out this view of the matter, and he often said that unless the blacks were stopped thpy were continually in dread ot massacre. Our trms have been victorious (cheers). The Zulu kingdom has been cut up, and, I venture to say, there will be no more dread from the savagea of South Africa (renewed cheering). We have, therefore, secured the safety of the white popula- tion of Natal; we have closed the gates of India against the northern bear, and driven Russia back to its own country, to give a constitutional government to its own people («nthusiastic ap- lause and cheers for Englands' honour). As a proof of the foreign policy of the government having been fully endorsed, I may tell you that for the last five years the Conservative majority in the House of Commons has been about 58, but such syrnpathy has been shown towards them during the war debates that they have had majorities of 120, and even 150, and the majorities have been made up from the Liberal rank—they were patriots first, and politicians afterwards. The government does not fear the polling at the next general election, and I for one do not fear for its results, and I shall fear- lessly come before the Cardiganshire electors, and ask them to decide whether it is a policy of which they approve or not (loud cheers). Amongst the domestic measures we have passed the Factory and the Factory and Workshop Act, the Friendly Societies' Act, and the Irish University Education Act. The latter measure had been before the public for 15 to 20 years, and worsted Mr Glad- stone's government in 1863, but the present govern- ment passed it in the face of all difficulties (cheers). Then there was the Merchants Shipping Act. an I t' e B nltrnptcy Act "-In sppaking on the Co inty Government Bill, Mr Pugh described it as a measure to make farmers pay rates without giving them a voice in the raising of the money. Now that was exactly what it was not.—" The county rates are now managed by the courts of Quarter Sessions, in which the ratepayers have no voice, whereas the new bill provided that the rates should b« managed z, by Quarter Sessions on the one part, and by Board ot Guardians as the representatives of the rate- payers, so that I do not think Mr Pugh has given that attention to this bill as he usually does to such matters. Mr Pugh, again, tacts at the Agricultural Holdings Bill, but I do not know if he gives his tenants the benefit of its clauses to kill rabbits, &c., or whether he has not even raised their rents even in these hard times (laughter and cheer). I will now come to Local Taxation. The poor rate and school rate are felt very heavily in the land, and there has for some years been springing up a variety of personal property which should be considered. There are some XSO,000,000, invested in the funds, and railway capital represents another < £ 70,000,000; there are also large sums invested in foreign lands, in canals and mortgagees,but not one of those funds contributes to the poor or school rates, and is it fair that in these depressed times they should be exempt (cheers and cries of "No.") I think the time must come when this must be seen to, and when it does we shall have to be equal to the occasion (cheers). It was frequently charged against the late govern- ment that the rates were put OR very heavily, but it was not stated that the relief given by the present government is very considerable. Let us look for an instant at the Cardigan union. There had been a charge on the rates of £ 909 for School Boards; as contributions to Rural Sanitary Authority. XISI, and school fees, £ 65, making £ 1,155; but must now call your attention to the relief given for 1874 to 1879; refunded for maintenance of lunatics in asylums, k386 12s; saved to the county rates, £ 647, and received by the taxation of Woodlands and Game, j6200, making £1,233 (cheers. This is important for you to remember, because while the rates put on by the late government for school and sanitary purposes amounted to over £ 1,100, the present government has reduced it by a large sum." In dealing with the railway question, Mr Lloyd said :-I heard last night that, the £ 15,000 so magnanimously offered by Mr D Davies towards the formation of the Aberaeron line has been with- drawn. (Cheers.) At least the amount named is not forthcoming. (Laughter.) With respect to the Crymmych and Cardigan line, I am quite prepared to give a grant of my land for a rent charge-(applause)-and I trust other landowners will do the same, in which case there is nothing to prevent the line being commenced soon. (Cheers.) No doubt all of you have read letters in the Welsh papers signed Ceredig." It speaks of two brothers William and Benjamin. William, who had first lease of the farm 1 am about to speak of, allowed the ditches to become choked, and the buildings out of repair, and in fact the farm got into such a bad state that when his lease expired in 1874, the owners of the farm did not feel satisfied, so that when William asked for a renewal, they said ."no; we must give Benjamin the lease Benjamin came into possession, cleaned out the ditches, repaired the buildings, and the farm once more became in a prosperous state. William at this got jealous, made speeches and wrote pamphlets, but all to no purpose. Well, geutlemon William is the Hon. William Ewart Gladstone,and Benjamin was then theHon Benjamin Disraeli. (Great cheering.) The farm I speak of is this our country England and Wale&, (Renewed applause.) I have been a labourer on this farm for the last six years, and I propose to offar myself at the ending of the lease for fresh employment as a labourer on that farm. (Cheers and cries of you shall have it.) (Hear, hear.) If my conduct has met with your approval I will do my best for your interest in the future. (Loua applause.) But if you should prefer a new representative in Parliament I shall be perfectly happy to submit to your choice. Mr. Lloyd then sat down amidst great applause. Col. Lewis, Cynfiew, proposed the following resolution—"Tb.a,t this meeting approves of the address now delivered by Mr. T. E. Lloyd, and the I manner in which he has attended to his parlia mentary duties since his election as member for the county of Cardigan" (Prolonged cheering). It seems to me that Mr. Pugh places his fitness for the representation of the county of Cardigan upon his beauty, but we place ours upon good doing (cheers) and as they were told Mr. Pugh was to be a cabinet minister, so he concluded Mr. Davies "as to replace Lord Beaconsfield (roars of laughter). There had not been a single question of any moment in the House of Commons but that Mr. Lloyd was in his place, and his name appeared in almost every division; therefore he was a tried man. (Cheers). Perhaps some present did not agree with him (cries of ''yes" no" find'' not one disagrees with him.") Well, there were very few at any rate, and even those would not be ag.iinst him, because wh-^n one did li s duty he feared no one. (Cheers.) Everyday they saw officers returning from the unhappy war in South Africa received with open arms by their coun'rymen, received with testimonials of plate nnd swords, and with the greatest public favour, but Mr Lloyd did not ask tor plate or for sword, but he (the speaker) would ask for him that when th(- time'' came they would return him to that plac6 in which he had done them S8 much honour. (Great cheering, and cries of "we will.") Captain Parry, in a humourous speech, seconded the resolution. He was surprised at Mr Pugh coming forward as a candidate, because if he bad been asked a few months ago what Mr Pugh was, he should have said he was a better Conservative than himself, and as he was a gentleman of large acres, and he loved them well, he [the speaker] could not understand how Mr Pugh could lay him- self out with the party of Mr Bright, who cut up acres, and with Mr Parnall, who recommended people not to pay their rents [laughter and cheers]. One of the reasons, perhaps, is that Mr Pugti believes that Lord Beauonsfield is ruining the country, aud he has actually f'uud a Conservative who believed so also [laughter]. Well, he [Capt Parry] only hoped tnat Conservative gentleman would take care of himself, and wrap himself up in cotton and wool, so as not to take cold until his rote W;)S wanted [renewed laughter]. He would L now tell them what was the opinion of the colonies on the policy of the Government. He would not say auylhiag of New Zealand, because he might be told that that was essentially a, Conservative colony, but Australia had given Lord BeaconsfielJ a testi- monial because th, y thought him a great man, and the inhabitants of that eoiouy were thorougly liberal. Let them go again to HougUong, the most cosmopoli- tan and liberal of all the coloni«s; ruled over by Mr Pope lluuncssy. He said that when the honour ot the colony Wltll in the balance John Bright and Mr Disraeli were the two who prevented her rushing into war [lolld cheering]. Go to tho grellcest Republic in the world, and they would find that from California they bad sent Lord Beacousfield a handsome testimonial,: and also a handsome address and did not all those things show them there was confidence all over the world in the Conservative Government. (Renewed cheering). He a,keel them to support a government supported by such a man as Lord Beaconsfield, and he asked them to return the honourable gentleman then present, who had told them he was a humble labourer undsr that manager. "(Cheers). He hated a contested election, but there was only one way to stop it, and that was when the time came to rally round Mr. Lloyd and show their opponents it was no use op- posing him. Capt. Parry having read the resolution he was seconding, concluded his address by saying, let your motto be "Deeds, not words, and vote for Mr Lloyd when the time comes ^Loud applause). A slu)w of hands having been taken, the .resolution was declared to have been carried, almost unani- mously, amidst enthusiastic cheering. Mr Charles Marshall Griffith rose to propose the next resolution. They had heard the statesman- like speech of Mr Lloyd, aad they had, in spite of a few who held up their hands for sport, given their approval of what he has said and done. The res- olution he had to propose a»kud that meeting to I?Xdt themselves one and all, and do their utmost to return Mr Lloyd to Parliament at the next general election [cheers]. They had given Mr Pagh and his companions over to the silence they deserved, but Mr Lloyd had placed before them an account of his stewardship, and owing to the course taken by Mr Pugh and his party they had come there to refute the statements made by them [«heers]. He must confess for himself there were two or three remarks indulged in by Mr Pugh in his canvass which he could not understand. He told the people of Cardigan the government had no right to inter- fere in the matter of Russia and Turkey, because money would havOol been left in our pockets by not doing so, but Mr Pugh forgot to tell them that England was a party to the treaty with Turkey, the outcome of the Crimean war (applause). Govern- ment said England should not go against her treaty, and every effort was made to induce England to join in the spoliation, but without avail (Re- newed applause.] Having explained England's conduct in relation to the Berlin memor- andum, Mr Griliiih continued by saying all Englishmen had a right to be considered in affairs going on in every part of the globe, and he could not help quoting that excellent politician Mr Roebuck, whom Mr Lloyd had alluded to, who said, Wherever lend and water were found Englishmen must be considered. (Applause.) "England's feel- ings were peaceful, but when she found Russia at the gates of Constantinople then she steps in and says stop. and that with the fullest effect, even from the very moment of the fleet being ordered to the sea of Marmora. (Much cheering). England was determined Russia should not have Constantsnople. (Cheers). The opinion expressed by Wellington always was that if Constantinople was in the hands of Russia then the world would have to be recon- sidered, and even the first Napoleon looked upon it as the key to India. Mr Pugh said Lord North- brook came home because England wanted to send a mission to Cabul. But what were the facts ? The Ameer found himself between two fires- Russia on the one hand and England on the other. The Ameer's wish was to side with England. Lord Northbrook, however, asked for the matter to be put off for a time, and that created such distrust in the Ameer's mind that he went into the arms of Russia, and the English Government then stepped in, and quite right, too. (Cheers). As Mr Lloyd says we shall now have a strong Afghanistan, an independent Afghanistan, and a friendly Afghanistan as well (Loud applause). As regarded the Zulus, did they think Englishmen should have stayed their hand and not taken war against the Zulus after the shedding of the blood of their countrymen. (No, no). Mr. Davies and Mr. Pugh bad been saying a great deal about the ex- penses of the present government over the last, and Mr. Davies said in one of his speeches that £14,°"°, 000 more had been spent than .during the time of Mr. Gladstone, teut farther on he evidently forgot himself, for he increased the amount to £ 15,000,000 ('Laughter). Mr. Baxter, however, placed the difference at 8,000 000 only, out of which £ 2 000 000 had been spent in the relief of local taxation. (Cheers). I hat was boon the Liberal Government, had always been promising but never gave (Cheers) In the army and navy departments the Liberal party did no doubt decrease the expenditure, but I when time of need came every requirement was found to be deficient, and there were no ships fit to be sent to sea, and liiat took up £ 2,000,000 more. The education question was a legacy left the Con- servatives by their predecessors, and now they were spending £ 1,500,000 annually in education alone. In paying of annuities £ 2,000,000 were spent, therefore the present government were but in excess of Mr Gladstone. Mr Griffith next alluded to the majorities the conservatives kept up in the House, and asked the meeting to support Mr Lloyd as a consistent member of the Conservative government, In 1863, the Conservative party in the county did not know their strength, even up to the last hour, and it was not until Mr Lloyd had the courage to come out and relieve them from the misrepresentation they were labouring under, and on those grounds be was worthy of support. Mr Griffith next touched on the cause of Mr Pugh coming out as a candidate, and concluded a shining address by proposing the resolution to support Mr Lloyd at the next s election. I Mr R. D. Jenkins seconded the motion, which was I carried without a dissentient, amid tremendous cheering. A vote of thanks to the chairman was proposed by Mr Bowen, M.P., for Pembrokeshire, in a. masterly speech, and seconded by Mr T. H. Brencbley, who aliuded to the difference in the rate of the Income tax under the Conservatives and under the Liberals. The Chairman having suitably responded, urging upon all the necessity of united action, the meeting concluded with hearty cheers for Mr Lloyd, the chairman, the ladies, and all who had taken part ia the meeting.

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