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WHY THE WORKING CLASSES DON'T GO TO CHURCH. On Saturday afternoon a conferencei wa« e Hope-hall Liverpool, under the P1*? reasons why Mayor, (Mr. E. Whitley,) to discuss the rea^ ^y the working classes do not, as a body, 80_ worship, and the best means to induce t. Rev There was a very large attendance, mci clergy- Cannon M'Neile, Rev. Dr. Taylor, and other clergy men of many denominations. were read Letters of apology for non-attendan f from Mr. S. R. Graves, M.P., and the Chester. The latter entered at some lengtn He question, and quoted his experiences m gg and believed that there was a latent Wl in ublic wor- desire on the part of the people to atte P ld piease ship, but he did not believe that any^thi:^ an(j unless the teaching from the pulpit thorough. T0nes, block After a brief address by the Mayor, Mr. • opened and spar maker, and Mr. James Carter, comp causes of the discussion. The latter was of opinion t were two- tne working classes neglecting public wors and the fold First, the pride peculiar to the working jn rejj_ fact that too much of class distinction was k f gious matters. T stated four The Rev. H. Whitworfh, Curate of St..L^eJSellable and reasons which he had heard, two of whicn w tlia-t they two which were not. The untenable ones tjjat there could just as well pray at home, and the secon d set them were so many ungodly people who did not go, that they a bad example. The tenable reasons were—* "r 'onvenient had not time, and that the services were not »» there times and the fourth and most serious one waa, h were no seats for them. He thought that many cnuiones wjiich were appropriated might be opened free fa. vices. At his own church they held nightly s^wes witb the best effects. The services should be mucJ1 quent and much shorter.—(Hear, hear!) men Mr. IJ.'irper said he had asked his why they did not go to public worship, a,nd a minjster he had been twenty-two years in Liverpool, jd had. never entered his house.—(Cheers.) Anothe ma sa d, By ministers introducing ideas of their h JJJi n to the majority of their congregation."— thought there was some truth in that. His !Lal that the neglect arose mainly from habits of indineience,and the couuter influences of drink.—(Cheers.) „y,p„r„ ,H The Rev. Dr. M'Neile, who was received wit that in dealing with this question it appMMdto him that there were two previous ones which first de -their tion—where were the worshippers to c0™i(je,i for tjlprn houses and workshops-and what was PJ°tVjeal denend^d when they did come. He believed that TartlcXriv en the character of the workshops, eL 11 urged employers to see that their and moral men, whose influence over the with work be of the best. He had had some conventionjHh «.work- ing man, who said that the influence of often of the worst character. The ^e»;sCs and there got their wages, were off to the beershops, and there lost their money and their self-respect- good would arise from paying wages earlier in would only lead to the loss of the M'Jfeile) ventured to ask this meeting ^ood wouid not arise from paying wages daily, »° might not have a large sum in his hands y_one (Loud cries of No.") Very weU—he only w it out as a suggestion He had also been told that wo "8 men did not like to go to church because they could no rstand what they heard, and did not like to go to This showed that something of a nature was required, for, to use their own words, ther s too much of the quiet essay going on." They ough ake care that there was something plain and earnes^_ they could understand to be said to the working ^ot be- lieve that the working classes, as ahody> oI prerogative and privilege as not to go .?? b because some of the seats were let, but if more r urches were re- quired, let those gentlemen who desired to e tree churche« j build them. i.ho. „ Mr. Williams, railway porter, believed tnat employers of labour were too often to blame in this mat ■ and too often set a bad example. Then Sunday ran^a^ traffic, and the Crystal Palace, and similar places of ^ay amusement, were a great barrier between the worHmgctMses, and the sanctuary. He considered the abolitien oi tne liquor traffic as the great remedy, but while corporate councillors who were brewers, and railway proprietors got their profits from these Suuday traffics, he feared they wou have a hard fight. Mr. Alexander Jack, cabinet-maker, not deal much with the question, but suggested that ciwwmen might gain influence by acting as arbitrators in r e disputes.— ("Question.") Mr. Brown, merchant, considered this to be particularly a laymen's question. The real ground-work of the question was, that the populations of England had far out-grown the religious provision made for them. They must begin with lower agencies—children must first be educated—and Scrip- ture readers and Bible women must be Drought more into service. He believed that a great deal ol ojame attached to the clergymen themselves. There were brilliant exceptions; but he wished to speak freely as to their conduct as a class. They were set apart for the special office, and had more leisure—("No, no,")—which they might employ in visiting the people at their own homes. One of the chief reasons of the indifference shown by Protestant clergymen to the wel- fare of Protestant communities, was that most of them were married men, who had wives and families, and so much to look after at home that they had not time to look after the working-classes, which they would have if they were single men—(Hisses, and loud cries of "question.")—He was a staunch Protestant, but that was his opinion.—(A Jesuit.) Mr. M'Fall, clerk of works, spoke of his experience amongst bricklayers and labourers. One reason was, that he and his friends never knew the smile of their minister's countenance at their homes.—(Hear.)—His minister went and shook hands with those who were dressed in silks and satins, but never spoke to the poor man or his wife. Mr. Woods, builder, thought that in proportion as many of the working classes as of the classes above them, went to church. The opening of public-houses till late on Saturdays and Sundays were the greatest obstacle in his opinion. The Rev. Dr. Taylor was glad to think that there were many of the working people of Liverpool who did attend public worship; but he thought the principal reason why others did not, was simply that they did not want to. He considered the subject under three heads—the people who don't come—the places to which we desire they should come--and the pastors and preachers who are found in those places when they do come. In his own district both curates and himself visited the poor, and there were those who had resisted all their efforts to get them to attend church. There was an apathy and indifference which was proof against the most affectionate solicitation. Suppose they did eome, they were at least entitled to decent accom- modation other than a distant gallery or a row of forms along the aisle. In proportion to the wants of tne popula- tion their churches should be wholly or partially iree. But free churches would not accomplish what they wanted, unless they had men in the pulpit able to address them in manly, energetic, warm-hearted appeals. This was how their churches must be filled.—(Cheers.) Mr. Edmund Jones, basketmaker, who spoke with marked ability, said that after twenty-lire years' observation, his conclusions were these—that there were three separate and distinct causes-first, the natural depravity of the human heart—and he said this as one who once expressed strong sceptical opinions—and until the human lieart could be reached, the masses would continue to neglect religious instruction. Sceptics were of two classes—sceptics by reading and thinking, who were very few indeed and the other class were those who were ignorant and self-opinionated, who savagely hate everything of godli- ness, and despise order and morality. The next great cause which he found to militate against religion was poverty inherited and poverty begotten—the last im- measurably the larger and more pernicious; and the third and greatest cause—the master cause—was the drinking customs.—(Cheers.) They might build and endow churches, not only with money, but brains, but before they could reach the mass they must sweep from the statute book those laws which licensed men to make and sell these drinks.— (Cheers.) He believed the shortcomings of the clergy was a very poor excuse. He had not found them neglectful in his own case, and it was to their searching out at his own home, and the sympathetic arguments of these noble-minded men that the Gordian knot which had bound him, had been un- tied—(Cheers.) The eleventh hour was too ready an argu- ment in the mouths of those who knew their state but post- poned repentance. No passage of scripture more needed ex- position, for it was on that very passage that nineteen- twentieths of our working classes hung their soul's hopes, while they went on neglecting religion and rePentance.— (Cheers.) Mr. Robert Lowe complained that his clergyman had never visited him during a period of twenty-four years, though he could not say of the clergy as a rule that they did not visit. The Rev. John Thompson, Presbyterian minister, con- sidered that the want of union amongst believers was the great obstacle to many believing men and women who were anxious to join a religions community- He also epoke strongly against the liquor traffic. Mr. Henry Clarke said that in too many cases churches became private places of worship, and clergymen private chaplains. More services and free ones were required, when a man might take his seat where he would. The Roman Catholics had six services before noon, and 8,000 worshippers in one church. One person bad told htm that on entering a church he was twice ordered to leave a seat he had taken. He was so indignant that he had never entered a church again for seven years. Mr. William Radcliffe, sailor and street preacher, said that he was a frequent visitor to the houses of the poor, and he tried to persuade them to sign the pledge. He had found in one street that a father kept a beershop, and his son a bake house, and on Sundays a supply of drink was taken to the bakehouse, so that when people fetched their dinners they could get their drink. What chance had he against that? He strongly urged that they should commence reform with the children, and above all stop the drink traffic, at least on Saturday nights and Sundays. Mr. George Hodge, engineer, direoted his remarks chiefly against the mischief of the liquor traffic. He also said there was not enough sympathy and fellow-feeling in our congre- gations. Silks and satins too often could not see a working man. Mr. Cormack, watch case finisher, also considered their great obstacle to be drink. He suggested that they should shut the public-houses and open the churches every day. lIe did not think he had ever been visited by a clergyman, but he believed them, as a body, to be hard worked. The Rev. N. Loraine rejoiced deeply in this conference, but he did not expect too much from it. As to the reasons why working men did not attend public worship, there were different reasons given by different men. They had heard a strong earneat voice raised against the licensing system, and hec thought they should be prepared to do some- thing to break down the system but in the place of public- houses, care should be taken to provide rational amusement for the people. Mr. David Webster, foreman mechanic, thought there should be more consistencywith the spirit of religion amongst the affairs of life. They found men building and endowing churches with other people money. Religien was fashionable, but they should remember that in the house of God they were on an equal^ footing, and the work- ing man was not there to be told, You must do as I wish you, or I will remember you on the morrow," which was too often the fact. The Rev. R. Lundie contended that there was not much infidelity-the majority knew that they ought to come to worship, but were content to delay. He did not put much faith in more frequent services. If willing to come at all they would contrive to do so now. Mr. Jas. Duncalfe, labourer, regarded the drink traffic as their great obstacle. It was preying on the very vitals of the people and he could not understand why, knowing these things, men in high places, and clergymen, should patronize tuch things as licensed victuallers balls. They could not patronize the devil and God too.—(Hear, hear !) About visiting, he asked if the working men tried to visit the clergy. Mr. Whitehead, Nockmaker, made some pertinent reo marks on the general aspect of the question. He thought the influences young men were exposed to in the workshops were a great stumbling-block, and he thought there was also much room for complaint in the appropriation of seats. Mr. Grindley thought that what they had to do was to close the public-houses, at least on Sundays, care for the young, and provide free sittings for all who could not afford to pay, without any bold distinction of place. Sir. H. Clarke, shoemaker, said that he had not entered a church for twenty-two years, owing to the influence of his own class. As far as his experience went, he ventured to say that 75 per cent of them were, or believed themselves to be, infidels and in his own trade for twenty-two years he had not known a single Scotchman in England who attended a place of worship. lIe attributed this to the neglect of the clergy, and to the anomalies and inconsistencies which attended the practice of religion. The Roman Catholic priests were incessantly visiting their poor. He thought public-houses should be closed on Saturday nights and Sundays. Mr. Maefee urged that what was wanted was attractive preaching and more Christian fellowship. The Christian Church shoúld have a power not III the gaudy ornaments of Ritualism—(clieevs)—but in the warm religious sympathy between class and class. He recommended a shake of the hand, and the interchange of a few kindly words, and the offer of a seat. There should also be more earnestness and Gospel preaching in the pulpit. Mr. Gilbert Tickle accepted the meeting as a proof that they were all deeply in earnest. Mr. Frost thought there should be less pride, and more of the spirit of the apostles amongst the clergy. Mr. Reginald Radcliffe thought that the influences of drink &d üt caste, for there was caste In England, would be found to be the great impediments. They must go amongst [ the poor before they could succeed. Mr. Thomas Roberts, smith, thought that the preaching should be more homely and more within the scope of the working men. Mr. Lochhart said that of the many evils pointed out that evening the greatest prominence had heen given to drink, and he believed that those who had dealt with that question were right. The brewers' interest was strong in the Town Council, and still stronger in the House of Commons. The example lay with the clergy- men, and while the clergymen drank their wine, and gentle- men of position entertained their guests with wine, little could be hoped from their example. He had reason to believe that many absented themselves because of the pew system, and they did not like the grand churches and chapels; nor did ladies and gentlemen do any good to the cause by em- ploying men on Sundays to drive them to Church— (Hear, hear!) Then, as to visitation, they must go out amongst the people and use every inducement to get them to attend, without patronage or condescension, but in all brotherly love. It was then suggested that the conference should be adjourned, but this was stated to be impossible, and the proceedings having lasted six hours were concluded with a vote of thanks to the Mayor, and to the com- mittee who had arranged the meeting.

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