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RUSSIA, TURKEY, AND ENGLAND. STATEMENT BY LORD CARNARVON. Lord Carnarvon, the Secretary of State for the Colonies, took occasion, when a deputation waited f upon him in reference to affairs in South Africa, to [ speak of the Eastern Question. He declared that he did not think circumstances bad materially changed i since Lord Derby's- reassnring statement in November, ( wholly dissented from the view that there was any insult or affront conveyed by the refusal of Russia to accept England's conveyance of overtures of peace, Warned the country against lashing itself into a nervous apprehension of so-called British honour and British interests, and concluded by observing that while we must have a voice in the settlement of the Eastern Question, he Was confident :hat there was nobody in this country insane enough to desire a re- petition of the Crimean war. The following is the portion in cxtenso of Lord Carnarvon's important statement respecting the Eastern Question, and of the position of England towards Turkey and Russia: I can hardly feel -surprised that a body of gentle- men representing, as you do, such large commercial interests should touch upon a question which is so much in the minds of every one at this moment, and should desire with respect to it any assurance that I can give. Of course, as one of the speakers said, or hinted, such a question would be more properly addressed to and answered by my noble friend Lord Derby, just over the way. At the same time, the question is so serious a one that any Minister, I think, might fairly have an inquiry addressed to him on such a subject, and any Minister, I am satisfied, will be very glad, if it is in his power, to give a re- assuring answer. Of course. Circumstances have changed, as they always do in time of war; but materially I do not think there is any great alteration since the time when Lord Derby gave an answer at the Foreign Office in the last days of Novem. if- u° a ^ePutation that waited upon him, which answer, I think, was generally re- ceived with satisfaction as being reassuring. (Hear, hear.) Although Plevna has since fallen, as every well-informed person must have expected it would rail before long, I do not see that there has been any material change in the situation, and therefore our attitude remains much the same-watchful of all real British interests, friendly as regards other nations, neutral as regards the belligerents. (Hear, hear.) 1 hough we are not prepared to bolster up Turkish interests as such, on the other hand, we are resolved now, as we have been from the very beginning, to have a voice in the settlement ef this question whenever it comes on for settlement. (Hear, hear.) One of the speaker alluded to a step that has been taken within the last week, and an important step it « 8 have n°t. as has been supposed, offered to mediate, still less to intervene in the ordi- nary sense of intervention, but we have conveyed over- tures of peace from one belligerent to the other. (Hear, hear.) I have heard from some of my friends K r7 with great dissatisfaction on the answer which the communication of these overtures has pro- duced. Well, whatever may be the view taken by persons of different opinions as to the fruit which they have borne, I wholly dissent from the idea that there is any affront or insult conveyed to England by it. (Hear, hear.) It seems to me unreasonable and without founda- tion to suppose such a thing; and I venture, as I have gone so far and as we are now talking on this subject, fo say further that which is very much in my own mind, that I think there is at this moment a serIOUS risk on each side. On the one hand, I hope that we shall not in this country lash ourselves up into a nervous apprehension of so-called British honour and British interests. (Hear, hear.) I have never heard throughout these transactions tTvu °ae e*8e eTer heard a whisper against British honour; and as regards British interests we must be very sareful always as men of the world, in dealing with undoubtedly very large interests, to discriminate between those that are real and those ^bat a^e secondary. (Hear, hear.) On the other nand, I hope sincerely that the Russian Government and people will remember that many of the questions arising at this moment are questions not for the set- tlement of the two belligerents alone. They involve European interests; they are European questions; and we, as a member of the European family, have net only a right to be heard upon them, but it is very important that we should have a distinct voice in the final decision of them. (Hear, hear.) I do not feel myself any difficulty in reconciling these two views p-ovided only there is reasonable manage- ment and moderation on each side. (Hear, hear.) Most of us in this room are old enough to remember the outbreak of the Crimean war. We can remember T ?-U88^a' on the one hand, through self-deception, and this country, on the other hand, in a great measure through an extreme excitement, drifted—to use an ex- pression which became historical-into a war. I apprehend that there are very few people now who look back upon that war with satisfaction (hear, hear), and I am confident that there is nobody insane enough in this country to desire a repetition of it. hear), and I am confident that there is nobody insane enough in this country to desire a repetition of it. (Rea:, hear,) One safeguard I think we have, and that is that the experience of that time has not been who,,J thrown away either in England or in Russia, ™at there is, especially in the commercial world, which you represent, a cooler and a more sober feel- JPS: disposed to look at things as they are, and not desirous to rush to hasty conclusions. (Hear, hear.) When you, gentlemen, ask me for an assurance on su^j«ct, my answer is rather that no section of the community is more able to hold the balance of J"eaBOn at such a time than the commercial world, because none is more capable of appreciating the issues of peace and war; none ia more sensitive of its evils; none would suffer more grievously from a breach of the peace if it ensued. And while Cape interests, no doubt, are very large, it is always to be remembered that they represent a mere fraction of the aggregate interests of this country and of the whole iSmpire. Of course it is the duty of the Government to keep always in view and to remember, as I have said, that there are not only such interests in the East, numberless points of this enormous Empire. W hue, of course, we shall uphold, as we always ihave desired to uphold, the honour and self-respect of this country, I hope we shall never do anything o encourage alarm, or shall allow that diplomacy as> in these difficult and critical times, become so exhausted and barren as to be incapable of afford- a Peaceable solution. I trust, gentlemen, that in words I have said in answer to the questions wll,ch so many of the deputation have addressed to me on thIs important subject, I have conveyed a true, I but at the same time not wholly unsatisfactory im- I Pr^flo°" (Hear, hear.) j 6 deputation thanked his lordship for his courtesy and retired.


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