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THE CARMARTHENSHIRE HUNT STEEPLECHASES.I
THE CARMARTHENSHIRE HUNT STEEPLECHASES. Delayed for a day by a heavy fall of snow.,these ajinual races were brought off successfully on Thursday and Friday. Owing, no doubt, to the fact that a number of the visitors had gone away in the belief that there would be no racing, the attendance on the first day was only meagre, but excellent sport was witnessed, several of the finishes being well worth seeing. Among the company present were: Sir Marteine Lloyd, Bart. Bronwydd; Mr. D .Prothero, Glyntaf; Mr. R. H. Harries, M.F.H., St. Clears; Major Glascott. Saundersfoot; Dr. Lawrence, Narberth; Mr. W. S. G. Morris, Ystradwrallt; Mr. T. Lewis, Bryn- glas; Mr. Richard Lewis, Swansea; Mr. JV. C. Thomas, Salt Lake City, Utah, U.S.A.; Captain Harries, Bryntowy; Mr. D. Leslie, Cwmgwili; the Hon. Colwyn Philipps, Lydstep; Dr. R. L. Thomas ,"Whit-land; Mr .D. 11. Thomas, Starling Park Capt. D. Powell, Sarnau; Mr. H. Brunei White, magistrates' clerk, Carmarthen; Mr. W. Vincent H. Thomas; Mr. C. W. Rees Stokes, Tenby; Mr. G .Lort Stokes, Tenby; Mr. D. Har- rison, Deer Park Mr. D. E. Williams, Ivy Bush Mr. Herbert Davies, Queen Hotel. Pentre; Mr. Morgans, Treorky; Mr. H. Studt; Mr. John Thomas, Velindre; Mr. J. F. Rees. Carmarthen; Mr. T. Sheehan; Mr. L. B. Beauehamp; Mr. L. E. Crabbs; Mr. W. G. Thomas. Coedcanlas; Mr. Dan Davies, Alleston Mr. J Anthony"Cilveithy Mr. Ivor Anthony, Tellby; etc. In the opening event, the Maesyprior Maiden Steeplechase, Mr. D. Harmon's Sloe Gin made her first appearance under National Hunt Rules, find did backers a good turn by securing an easy victory. She is a six Jear-old mare, and was bought by her present owner from Mr G.Phelps, Cresselly. Pembroke, last August. For the Talley ho Selling Steeplechase there were seven horses brought out, the largest field of the day. What Next was backed like a certainty, but with the race half run he fell, and brought down Crauta- caun also. This left Rosethorpe with a clear way, but V .Francis never ceased persevering on Hack- mount, and he went ahead from the last fence and won by a short neck. He was, however, so distressed that he rolled about, and was thought guilty of both crossing and boring Rosethorpe hut the subsequent objection was over-ruled by the (stewards. The Derllvs Selling Handicap Hurdle Race only brought out four runners, Mr. D. Harrison's The Lieutenant, being made fav- ourite. The issue was a win for Mr. Hereford's Usher, which made practically the whole of the running. A capital finish was witnessed in the Llanelly Hunters' Hurdle Race, in which Mr. W. H. Rees's King's Colour, one of the most beau- tifully shaped horses ever seen on the course, won bv half a length from the Hon. Colwyn Philipps s Starlight VIII. The concluding race was a. vic- tory for Lord St. David's Oarion, after a. bold bid bv Mrs W. E. Sharps' Dying Duck. The officials were :-Stewards: Lord St. Davids. Sir Marteine Lloyd, Bart.. Mr. F. Lort Phillips. Mr. R. H. Harries. M.F.H., Capt. Spence-Jones, M.F.H., Mr J. V. Colby Patrons: Sir James Drummond, Bart.; Sir O. Philipps ,M.P.; Sir E. J. Webley Parry-Pryse, j Bart.; Captain E. C. Jennings; Mr. W. S. G. Morris: Dr H. Lawrence, Mr Francis James. Mr 'T. Lewis. Mnior T. H. Dowdeswell; Mr H. Brunei White. Mr W. J. Williams, Col. J. D. Lloyd. Mr D. G. Protheroe: Mr .E. S. Protheroe, Mr. D. H Leslie Mr Morgan Jones. Llanmiloc Mr. John Francis; Mr. H. Studt; Mr. George Key. Capt. D. Powell, Sarnau; Mr. John Thomas. Velindre; Mr. Walter Lloyd (Mayor of Carmarthen. Judge Mr. C. W. R. Stokes, Tenby: Clerk of the Scales. Mr. H. W. Pve, Unicorn Chambers, Worcester liandieapper, Mr. Frank Ward clerk of the course and stakeholder, Major Glascott, Saundersfoot starter, Mr. J. F. Rees, 1VI.R.C.V.S.. Carmarthen; auctioneers, Messrs. J .Howell Thomas and Son, Carmarthen: hon. sec., Mr. W .V. Howell Thomas, Carmarthen Results:- MAESYPRIOR MAIDEN STEEPLECHASE of 40 sovs.—Three miles. 11 12 Mr. D. Harrison's b m SLOE GIN by Gold Medallist, dam by Snowden, ag (all 5Ib.) Mr G. Stokes 1 12 3 Mr. T. Sheehan's MISS SLATTERY aged P. Sheehan 2 11 12 Mrs. R. Harries's MERRY WIDOW V., 6yrs (all 51b.) Mr. Kelly 3 (Winner trained by R. W. Smith, Tenby). Betting—5 to 4 against Sloe Gin, 6 to 4 Miss Sla.ttery. and 3 to 1 Merry Widow V. Miss Slattery made play from Sloe Gin tor a mile, where, after Merry Widow V. had showed I momentarily in front. Sloe Gin came out, and, making the remainder of the running, won by 25 lengths, a bad third TALLY-HO SELLING STEEPLECHASE Of 40 sovs.—Two miles. 11 12 Mr. B. Walker's br g HACKMOUNT, by Hackler-Breemount's Pride, a (all 51b V. Francis 1 12 3 Mr. J. F. Lloyd's ROSETHORPE, a, ) Mr. 0 .Anthony 2 31 i £ Mr. Beauchamp's GREY DIAMOND, 6vs (all 51b.) G. D. Naish 3 12 3 Mrs. D. Hill's Loughmoe, a, .J. E. Walker 4 12 3 Mr. L. Crabbe's What Next, a, .R. Gordon 0 ¡ 12 3 Mr. D. Harrison's Crautacaun, a,Mr J. R. Anthony 0 11 7 Mr. T. H. S. Montefiore's Melody V., a, (all 51b.) I Owner 0 (Winner trained privately). Betting-5 to 4 against What Next, 4 to 1 I Hackmount, 6 to 1 Grey Diamond, 8 to 1 Crauta- caun, and 10 to 1 Rosethorpe or any other. Melody V. ran out early on, and What Next shortly afterwards fell, bringing down Crauta- c.aun. Rosethorpe then came out with a clear lead but gave way to Hackmount after jumping the last fence, Hackmount winning by a neck; ten lengths separated second and third. There was no bid for the winner. An objection to the winner for crossing and boring was over-ruled. I DERLLYS SELLING HANDICAP HURDLE RACE Of 40 sovs.-Two miles. 11 7 Mr. Hereford's br g USHER, by Burn .Lby-L-dy-in-Waitinc, (all 51b.) G. Naish I 11 0 Mr. Harrison's THE LIEUTENANT, 4 yrs Mr. J. R .Anthony 2 11 11 Mr. C. F. Bruces HAPPY CHILD, a (all 51b.) Owner 3 11 0 Mr. R. Carpentier's DREAM AWAY, 4 yr,4 (all 5lb.) J. E. Walker 0 (Winner trained by E. S. Hunt, Heddington). Bettirig-5 to 4 against The Lieutenant, 6 to 4 Usher, 6 to 1 Dream Away, and 10 to 1 Happy Child. Usher made practically the whole of the run- ning. and won by three parts of a length; ten lengths between second and third. The winner WQA anld to Dr. Sikes for 55gs. LLANELLY HUNTERS' HURDLE RACE j Of 40 sovs.-Two miles. 12 10 Mr. W H Rees's bg KING'S COLOUR bv Orme—Flying Colours, 5yrs.Mr 0 Anthony I n 9 Hon. C. Philipps's STARLIGHT VIII., a. (all 51b.) Owner 2 j 11 9 Mr. J .M. Rudge's JACK SPRAGGON a. (all 51b.) B. Roberts 3 j 11 9 Mr. A .Bruce's THE SHAVER, a. (all 51b) J. W..Rogers 0 12 0 Mr. G. R. Lawrence's Marmaduke, a. Mr. Frater 0 11 2 Mr. W. P. Roch's Peewit II., a. (all 51b. Owner 0 ]] 2 Mr. Thomas's Lucky Jim IV., a. (all 51b). V. Francis 0 (Winner trained by Lucy, Cheltenham), getting—~6 to 4 on King's Colour, 2 to 1 agst I Marmaduke. 8 to 1 Jack Spraggon, and 10 to 1 Starlight VIII. or any other. The Shaver made the running from Marmaduke md Kine's Colour M?ti! passing the stand the time when King's Colour took second ??? V?md shaking off the chal'?nge of Star- light VIII' King's Colour won a good race by half a length; tSn l?gths be? se?nd and ¡. third. The Shaver and Lucky Jim IV. fell. HARKFORWARD STEEPLECHASE ( Of 40 sovs.—Two miles 11 13 Lord St .Davids bg OARION, by Orion -Galaxy, 5y Mr. J. R- Anthonj 1 10 12 Mr. W. E. Sharp's DYING DUCK. a. (all 51b.) Mr. A- N. Brogden 2 11 1 Mr .Crabbe's WHAT NEXT, a. Gordon 0 (Winner trained hy R. W. Smith, Tenby). Betting—3 to 1 on Oarion 5 to 1 against What Next, and 7 to 1 Dying Duck. Oarion made the whole of the running, and won by three lengths. What Next fell.
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____n - - - - CARMARTHENSHIRE…
_n CARMARTHENSHIRE ANTIQUITIES j "VARED DOKTH YR I I This Column is reserved for Notes and Queries relating to the Antiquities and Natural Hiatory i af the County, together with the T'ransactions of I the "fJørmarthenslire Antiquarian Society and II I Field Olub.") EDITKD BY M. H. JoN=. I No., 255-Jan. 21st. I ASTROLOGERS. I A Soci9ty, of which I am hon. sec., has been A SocietCya, rdiff for the purpose of investiga-ting formed at Astrology and cognate subjects in their scientific, historical, literary, and other aspects; the society being made up alike of believeis and oppon- 1 ents If any of your readers have any notes or information on these matters or on the astrologers for wholn Carmarthenshire was famous (pro and con it matters not) I shall be grateful to receive them. For example, I want particulars of Matthew Williams, of Llandilo, who was quite a learned man in his day in many ways; and of the! Harrises of Cwrtycadno. When did Harris die? There must be many readers who could help I' the- would but take the trouble to do so. ARTHUR MSI.
DALTON AND GEORGE III. !
DALTON AND GEORGE III. In regard to tho alleged marriage of George i III. with Hannah Lightfoot, and the marriage of a member of the Dalton family with a dlaughter of the union, I have come across a. little book by the former Editor of Notes and Queries re-I lating to the Lightfoot affair in which Mr. W. J. Thomas, F.S. k the gentleman in question, throws the gravest doubt on the story The fl"J lowing are notes from this little volume which I send for what they are worth. The story uas canvawred in the Monthly Magazine." 1821, and a cor respondent signing himself An Inquirer writes:— I have lately seen a half-pay officer from In- dia, who knew a gentleman of the name of Dal- ton, who married a daughter of this H. Light- foot by the King, but who .is dead, leaving severa, accomplished daughters, who, with the father, are coming to England. the daughters secluded from society like nuns, but no pains spared in their education. In "An Histoiical Fragment relative to Her late Majesty Queen Caroline (1824) occurs the following:— She [H. L.J was taken, it is supposed ,under the protectio-x of Prirce George, under an as- sumed name, and is said to have had a daugh- ter subsequently married to a gentleman of the name of Dalton or Dalston, who afterwards re- ceived an appointment from the East India Company in Bengal. whither he went and where he diel, leaving three daughters. References to the matter also appear in Notes and Queries, t-st series, x. 430, and 2nd series i., 322, where it is stated that Dr. James Dalton of the Madras Medical Service married a daughter of Hannah Lightfoot by the King, and had of her daughter, Caroline Augusta, who was in J 851 the wife of Daniel Prytherch, Esq., of Carmar- then, and who had of her 14 children. Another account says that Dr. Dalton's issue were four children-Henry Augustus of the Royals or 1st Foot Regiment, Hawkins Augustus of the Royal Navy Charlotte Augusta (all three of whom died a few years after); and Caroline Augusta. All the above is from" Notes on Hannah Lightfoot, etc. by W. J .Thorns, London, 1867. It will be noted that there are serious inconsistencies between the statements Lh1l1ishen, Cardiff. ARTHUR MEN Llanishen. Cardiff.
PENPIGOILLION.
PENPIGOILLION. [Concluded.] For most of the details ;n this chapter we are debtors to member John Jones, and his friend Alr ..VLorgan. It is evident that this farmstead of Penpic- cillion was, in former times the lesidence of a fan.ily of some distinction and importance in the county. Innumerable proofs also lead to the conclusion that the Rossers and earlier owners-- ancestors of th^ present possessor—were sturdy Royalists, and faithful Jacobites. Not very long ago one tall, solitary larch tice could be seen growing in front of the old farmhouse. In an almanac treasured in the house, and printed in the reign of the second Charles, the following sig- nificant manusciipt notes have been made in a contemporary hand:- Charles nmrthered, 1649." Olivir died, 1658." There is a tradition in the family that an an- cestor of theirs, tiling at Penpiccillion. was a General of some note during the troublesome times of King Charles I., and the Commonwealth, his name being preserved as General Jones." He is said to have been a remarkably good shot, and to have been possessed of one eye only, and it is to this latter fact—so the tradition has it— that his directness and dexterity can be attri- buted. because when aiming there was no time lost in closing an eye." We give the tradition for what it is worth. Query: Was there a wa,rrior named Jones then fighting for the Royalists ? Near the present farmhouse, is a field called Farc-y-gad, where, by the way, some human skulls have from time to time been turned up. The significant name of this field-Field of the Battle—coupled wit11 thE" finding of these skulls, and the cannon baft referred to in our opening chapter, as also the portable iron anvil-said to have been left by Oliver's men,"—also the tradition respecting General Jones" seem to lead to the conclusion that a tight of some note n.ust have taken place here between the Cavaliers and the Roundheads. It is always said that Cromwell stabled his horses at LlanstephaJI Chuich, not far distant ftom this house. The muniment chest (mentioned in Chapter I.), one of peculiar shape, contains 6ilver coins from Queen Mary to George III.; some silver shoe buckles in excellent preservation and some fish- ing tackle of peculiar design. In addition also to the many deeds previously enumerated, there are in the chest a number of written agreements. which give much local information as to family 2nd place names. Carefully preserved in the farm house are many other interesting curiosities and relics, including vooden spoons and rrck. wooden howls and eat- ing vessels, some with covers, others without earthenware vessels, one of peculiar shape, use unknown; the Welsh Bible, i654-6, sometime called Boibl Cromwell," the Protector, accord- ing to tradition, having contributed towards the cost of publishing it; an English Bible ,1637, and Speede's map of Caermai thensliire. Adjoining Penpiccillion is the farm of Tyrbacli. It formerly belonged to the Penpiccillion family, but afterwards passed out of their hands. Strangers to the family owned it for some 160 years. but about eight years ago it came back by purchase to Mr. John Jones. Part of the pre sent farmhouse, judging from date and construc- tion, is about 250 to 300 years old. There are yet remaining in it some fine specimens of oak work, and beams. Three years ago, whilst open- ing out some old gutters, distinct evidences of I prehistoric hearths wore obtained; and here it may be stated that similar hearths were discovered in the yard of Penpiccillion farm, near the stream. A few of the burnt small stones from them were exhibited to our secretary on one of his visits. In Parc-glas, one of the Tyrbach fields, during excavations a few years ago, Mr. Jones came upon some stones of gigantic size, under which were the remains of an earthenware pot." Adjoining these estates, and still in Llanstephan parish, is Castell Coygan. situate on the Hendre t farm. Some of the earthworks are well pre- served. A field about. 500 yards distance from this camp, and situate to the south of it, is called Parc-y-sentry, and another field to the N.E. of it I is known as Parc-v-Vanner. In addition to the two Meini Hirion already mentioned are two splendid specimens on the farm of Trerhos. about two miles N.W. of the i Maesgwvn Maen Hir. In LIangaii parish ,and on the Rhydiydan • field may be seen two other such stones about 6ft ,3in. high from the ground, and 4ft. m. j thick. In the parish of LInngunnock, on a ?Id con- tiguous to the village of Ebenezer, is a drtidlt. eirlce(P). So far as is known locally, there is no j mention of this particular cromlech in any printed work." LI hope to visit it soon. G.E.E.] On the roadside leading from Llangunhork to Carmarthen will be found the ruins of a wind-mill. No one now living remembers it a-work; it if. said, however, to have been in use about 90 years ago. The then nailer was a noted character and-rather amorous. These lines are attiibuteci to him:— Tri pheth ddvmunaf tra tof byw. Yw Oraa gan Dduw a Pheggy; Ac awel dyner fach o wynt I'r felin wynt cael malu. I.. alo. En. Ev ANI. I
CARMARTHEN BOROUGH QUARTERI…
CARMARTHEN BOROUGH QUARTER I SESSIONS, The Quarter Sessions of the Peace for the Bor- .1 oi gh of Cara.arthen was held at the Shire irlnll on Friday, before the Recorder (Mr Milner Jones) who was accompanied on the Bench by the Mayor of Carmarthen (Aid. W. Lloyd), Mr- Hy. Howell, Mr. James Davies, Mr. H. Blagdon Richards, Mr. E. Colby Evans and Dr. Harries Thomas Williams was indicted for burglaiy at I the dwelling-house of Thos. Griffiths at Pwntan Farm, Llanstephan Road, Carmarthen, on th"- 1st November last. Mr. W .LI. Williams prosecuted and stated that the prisoner was charged" ith burglariously ci,tering the farm of Thomas Griffiths and stea l- ing a toothbrush and 5s. in money. The way suspicion fell on the prisoner was ihis: The far- mer heard a noise about 3 o clock in the morn- ing, and went downstairs but found nothing. Next morning when he :got up he found there v ere marks or lime and footprints all over the yard leading from an outhouse right into the parlour. The parlour window had been force.1 open, and the couch under the window had foot- prints of lime, shewing that whoever got in had lime on his boots. Two days later ibe police ar- rested the prisoner, who had still marks of lime all over his boots and clothes. On him were found a sovereign, a five shilling piece, and two half-crowns, besides a toothbrush, which had been missed from the house. The boots of the prisoner corresponded with the footprints on the couch. Evidence was given in support of the charge ly Thos. Griffiths, farmer, Llanstephan Road, his wife, Mary Ann Griffiths, and P.S. Phillips. Mrs. Griffiths said she had a box in a drawer in the parlour containing a sovereign, a five shil- ling piece, two half-crowns, and a purse also con- taining 3s. 3d. Altogether there was £2 5s. in money in the drawer. She was not quite sure whether the toothbrush produced was the one -lie missed; but* it was like it. She missed 3s. from the purse and L2 5s. from the box. In reply to the prisoner she said she had no mark on the money. P. S. Phillips said he saw the ptisoner at the county police station, where he was detained on a. charge of drunkenness He was searched in witness's presence, when there was found a sov- ereign, a five shilling piece, and other money, n aking jEl 16s. 8d. altogether also a toothbrush. His boots and stockings had lime in them. P.C. David Jones stated that on the 16th Nov. he arrested prisoner on leaving gaol, where he had been sent for drunkenness. He charged him with the burglary, and he said Right, any more." While the man was in prison he had pos- session of his boots and tested them by the foot prints on the couch, with which they corresponded exactly. Prisoner had nothing to say, and after the Learned Recorder had summed up the casa to the jury a verdict of guilty was returned. There were two previous convictions against the prisoner, who was recently tried at the County Quarter Sessions and sentenced altogether to nine months' hard latour. Supt. T. Smith said lie had been told the pris- nier came to this neighbourhood as a Reforma tory boy, under the name of John O'Donnell. On the night of this burglary attempts were made at two other small faims near. It was a moon- light night, and a man of his description was seen to be leaving one place on a dog barking. He was a big powerful man. and upon him was found a very dangerous knife The Recorder warned prisoner that if he per- sisted in his career as a housebreaker lie would inevitably be sent to penal servitude before long. He sentenced him to nine months' imprisonment, to mn, however, concurrently with the sentences he was a lready serving, so that it would not keep him in prison a day longer than the term he was already undergoing.
CARMARTHENSHIRE MAN'S HOTEL…
CARMARTHENSHIRE MAN'S HOTEL BILL. On behalf of Mr. Timothy Davies, late M.P. for Fulham, and now Liberal candidate for J.Jollth, an application was made to Mr. Justica Philli- more on Saturday for an interim injunction re straining Mr. Ward .proprietor of the Mason's Arms Hotel, where Mr. Davies had been staying since December 8. from publishing a statement that the latter would not pay his hotel bill, and would not pay his debts. These tatements, it was %4 er](-s shouted ly Mr. Ward at an open-air meeting in the Market-place, Louth. on Wednesday. Mr. Davies, said counsel, paid his bill on December 23. and had been always readv to pay the amount since due if he had been asked for it. The 'natter is to be taken on Monday. short notice of the motion being meanwhile ser ved on Mr. Ward. The case was resumed in the King's Bench Division on Monday, when Mr. Ross Dalies moied on behalf of Mr. Timothy Davies, Parlia- ii,ent-iry candidate for the Louth Division of Lia- colnshire, to restrain Mr. Ward, a. hotel keeper f.nd farmer, of Witheall House Farm, Lincoln, and owner of the Atason's Arms Hotel, Louth. The motion was made under the provisions of the Corrupt Practices Act, 1895, and it will be remem- bered that at a meeting on behalf of Mr. Tim- othy Davies on the 12th January, the defendant who was present, was alleged, to have said of the plaintiff that he would not pay his hotel bill, and would not pav his debts. Mr. Ross Davies said the plaintiff's affi lavit. hm" ed that he had resided at the Mason's Arms Hotel from the 8th Decehiber ,and still resided there, and that neither the owaer nor the man- ager .or any other person had presented him with his bill. lie had had no dispute or difference of any kind with the defendant or his manager re- specting his hotel bi!t. A second affidavit was fum a Mr. Arthur Jubb, a Baptist minister, to the effect that the defci dant t ept repeating his statements for over half-an-liour. After the state- j IT,ents were made the speakers had great difficultv in addressing the meeting and there was disturb- ance. Mr. Chas. E. Ramsay :aTvI the defendant's j remarks influenced the crowd, which became very threatening. He was one of the speakers for the plaintiff, and after vhe interruptions by the de- fendant rotten eggs and potatoes were thrown at the speakers on the table. Another affidavit by j Mr .Collins was to the same effect. Mr. Walker said his client had been placed in a difficulty owing to the lack of time to answer, as i copies of the affidavits Yere i-ot served with the writ The defendant had no affidavits of the e,, act facts. The writ was sent down to the de- fendant's house at WithcaU, but he was in Lin- coln The answer had arrived and Mr. Warl row stated that he was a farmer and owner of Mason's Arms Hotel, Louth, which w as being con- ) ducted by a. manager. On Wednesday, the 12th lanuary. in the early pait of the afternoon, there was a meeting, at which speakers were addressing the crowd in plaintiff's interest Defendant did not agree, and in the heat and excitement of the I moment he called out. What he said was, He is no good to the hotel and the sooner he pays his bill and clears out the better." He denied losing the words, He did not and would not- pay" At the time he was entirely unaware of plaintiff's financial position, and he had no per- sonal animus. The plaintiff had hired from an- other posting establishment, and petrol was a lso obtained elsewhere, although he had good posting j accommodation and petrol could be obtained at his house- Mr Walker asked upon this affidavit v as it proved satisfactorily that any words were used such as had been suggested P His Londship: Did he say That is my house. He won't pav his hotel 1J11, and he won't pay his debts?" Mr. Walker said it was impossible for him to do more than set out his story as to what actually took place. His Lordship: He was perfectly entitled to say nlnintiff was of no use to the house, and the sooner he pays his bill and goes the better, but it is "on- ceiva ble that what he said was interpreted by the crowd,in the other sense Mr. Walker. There might have been many ques- tions and matters which gave rise to the disturb- ances. His Lordship: There might have been averv strong feeling in the town .)f Louth against the men. If they thought an allusion such as that of welsher was intended you could understand it. Mr. Walker Plaintiff himself was not there at the time Mr .Ross Davies: It was market day. Mr. Walker submitted that it was not proved they made any offensive statement against the statute. There was no prima facie proof of pub lication .as might have been the case had it been issued in the form of a leaflet. In the course of further remarks Mr. Walker poirted out that il-te defendant's affidavit showed he did not intend to make any further allusion to the. matter. There was no nedd for an interim inji notion, which ought to be granted only where a repetition of the statement was likely to occur. His Lordship: If he had gone on to say, I ha.ve no reason to say he cannot pay his debts, it would have teen different. Mr. Walker: That is what he does say. His Lordship If a telegram was sent to him to say, I have not said he would not pay his debts | and I have no reason to think he won't," and you get his reply, you might mention the matter to me later in the day. Counsel agreed that if a satisfactory f{>P:Y was received the matter wonid not be mentioned, and his Lordship said in thai event lie should under- stand the reply v.-as '-nti'factory. There would rot be more than stur.mons costs, and to avoid expense of trial the parties might complete their affidavits and come before him again. Later in the day Mr .Walker mentioned tt-It the telegram in the terms suggested by his Lord- ship had been received from Mr. Ward.
I PEMBROKESHIRE AND TARIFF…
PEMBROKESHIRE AND TARIFF REFORM. (ro rUB EDITOR OF THB WELSHMAN. "] SIH,—While Ministers are taking to personal abuse and to stir class hatred, it is comforting to turn to the words of one of the greatest states- men of the past, namely, the Right Hon. W. E. I Gladstone .and to read his views on the free im- ports and dumped manufactured goods into this country on the sugar bounties question, and re plying to a deputation We do not regard with any satisfaction," he says, a system under which an artificial advantage is given in our mar- kets to the products of foreign nations. Some people say it is a good thing because the consumer gets the benefit, but I do not think that any beii tit founded on inequality and injustice can bring good even to the consumer." The question of the hour to every elector in this country is Tariff Reform. Pity it is made a Party question. But it must and it will come before this country can remove the evils which exist in many millions of the homes of the British norkman. it is a question of hunmanity ■ the privation, want, poverty and crime is patent to every observing eye, and the day is no.v come when each elector from one end of the United Kingdom to the other should strike his vote for Tariff Reform, and thus secure for the British i-Lonufactui-ers and workmen a fair field and no favour. Men of Pen brokeshire, awake and rise equal to this great occasion, and vote for Samson and Armstrong, the champions of the people's jI cause. j Yours, etc., i ELECTOR. Havorfordwest, Jan. 12. (TO TB8 KDITOB O. TH8 "WELSHMAN."] I SIR,—Mr. W. F. Rocli, the Radical candidate for Pembrokeshire, in a speech at Narberth on Saturday night last .speaking on the 10 per cent. reversion duty proposed in the late Budget, and revers i o i? (lu comparing it with tithe, made the following amazing statement:— As every iawyer knows, the tithe was or- iginally the property of all in the parish, and after the iifa of the preseat incumbent, wI-nt used to belong to all is going back to a Ik" "Everv liNN-Nei, knows this," says Air. Roch I-et us see. Here is the opinion of Lord Chan cellor Eldon:— I will leave as a legacy to your lordships this my solemn and delilwl ato declaration, staking whatever professional reputation i may have i acquired, that no lawyer can prove, according to any kno<vn principle of Jaw. that the re- venues of the Church belong to the State. I Does Mr. Roch fee1 disl-osol to prove the -on- tJary? Here is Lord Brougham's opinion I think the right of the Church in :he pro- perty :t enjoys as sacred as the right of ilidi. vidLialF, to their estates and freeholds, and that the parson of the parish has as good right to I the tenth part of the produce of-tlie soil as the | body of proprietors and occupiers have to the II other nine-tenths. But Mr. Roch has other views. Sir James W ilde sad I As a matter of law .the funds of the Estab- lished Church arc. in my opinion, as sacred us private property. But Mv, Roch denies this. Sir William Bi-i(-k stone, perhaps the greatest legal scholar the last two centuiics have. produced, laid it down that— 1 The clergy have precisely the same right to the tithes as the heir at law has to his ances- tor's estate, and the proprietor has no more reason to complain that his land is not tithrs free than he has that his neighbour's field is not his own. I But Mr. Roch knows better, apparently. Says I the present Lord Chief Justice of England:— Every latvyer and historian who has examined the question has come independently to the concluofon that the property of the Church be- longs to the Church in the same way that the property of every private individual belongs to that individual. But Mr. Roch disagrees with him. Lord C han- cellor Selborne and Selden have each written P T.r" v olumes supporting similar opinions to those of the other great lawyers quoted above, and yet Mr. Roch, a young solicitor of <niv six vet\rs' standing, has the audacity to stand en a Imblio platform and stat-e that every iawyer knows that the tithe waboriginally the property cf ail 1:1 the pat ish. I understand that Mr. Roch when he made this remarkable statement was suffering from intense fatigue, consequent on his having addressed two meetings earlier in the day, with much travelling between. Whilo so ,perhaps the kindest view to take of his remarks is that they were these of a n an talking in his sleep. But, seriously .the questions of the Disestablish- ment and Diseudowment of the Church in Wales are of such vital interest and importance that by all the rules of justice and fairplay they should not be before the country at all at a general elec- tion like the present when the paramount issue is Mr. Hovd' George's financial idaas versus j Tariff Reform. If, however, these questions are. in fact, now t eforo the country, and Mr" As- quitli's Albert Hall speech seems to justify this- assumption, let Radical speakers he straightfor- ward. Every Radical speaker which we hare heard at Narbeith since tha election t-ampaipa opend. has couched his speech solely in the form of a sermon over the grave of the deceased Bud- get, and Mr. Roch's covert attack upon the Church was only introduced into this sermon as a species of comic relief, which it certainly did not need. Yours, etc.. J. E. P. MOBRM. Narberth. 11th Jan., 1910.
iHOME RULE AND LAND NAI IONALISATION…
HOME RULE AND LAND NAI IONALISATION COL. GWYNNE HUGHES AND MR. LLOYI: MORGAN. [TO THE BDITOR OF THB WELSHMAN."] SIR,—I shall be glad if you can find room for the enclosed correspondence between Mr Llov-1 Morgan and myself on the important question of Homo Rule and Land Nationalization, and his reply will, I ihink, remove any reluctance to ac- cord him that support which otherwise- many (mv- seif amongst the number) might have been dis- posed to deprive him of I notice that his courteous and able opponent Mr .Cremlyn, in his speech of Monday tiie 3d inst., at St .Clears, is reported (vide the" Jour- nal ") to have stated that nothing would have indjeed him to come out against M). Lloyd Mor- gan had he only been » Tariff Reformer. The fact that he is so, and that he also embodies many of the best traditions o fthe old Liberal party in regard to social refoim and progress should com- mand our support- Yours, etc W. HUGHES. Glancothy. P.S.—I may say that I have obtained Mr Lloyd Morgan's permission to publish this correspond* ence. Glancothy, Nantgaredig, R.S.O., Carmsirthenshire, Dec. 22, 1803. DKAR SIR,There arc many of the old Liberals and of the more molerate L. U. party wfil like myself, before deciding upon the part- we should take in the forthcoming elections, would be glad to know clearly what your position is in regard to the so called Land Nationaliaatkm, and also on Home Rule, and your views on these ques. tions. I think it was Lord Carrington who the other day at a farmers' meeting ridiculed the id:1. of such a dangerous proposal as Land Nationalization forming part of the Liberal pro- gramme. Also whether you are prepared to sup. port only such a method of Home Rule for Ire- land as will, while giving that country the fullest measure of self governn ent, seC1.re and retain the supreme control of -;lie Tooperiil Government at Westminster- Fait hfully yoors, W. GVFYNNE HUGHES. [Copy.] Oxford and Cambridge Club. 27 Doc., 19119, DEAR SIR,-l have much pleasure in replying to the questions contained in your letter of the 22nd inst. I am opposed to Land Nationalisation, and I regard the proposal that the State should acquire the ownership of all land in the country as quite outside the: cope of practical politics. As to Home Rule, I agree with the Prime Minister's declaration of the 10th December that the solu- tion of the Irish problem can clly be found in a policy, which while safeguarding the supreme authority of the Imperial Parliament, will set up in Ireland a system of self-government in regard to purely] I ish affairs. Believe me. Sir, Yours very truly, J. LLOVD MORGAN.
PEMBROKE NOTES.
PEMBROKE NOTES. At Pembroke County Petty Sessions on Satur day, before Col .Mirehouse (chairman) and other magistrates, George Morris ,of Penally, who was cliai-ged with drunkenness on New Year's Day. made an unsuccessful plea. that his faulty steering. was caused through rheumatism. P.C. .Nash, who proved the case, said the dcfei dant was at drunk as a kite!" The police offic^l'Vstory v?as believed .and a line of 2s. 6d. and 6s. GeL <osts- was imposed. The contest for the Pembroke and Haverford- west Boroughs has now come -o a close. It has has prevailed. Nomination papers were. handed to the Mayor of Pembroke (Councillor Rees Phil- lips) who acts as returning officer. on Saturday morning. Sir Owen Philipps, K.C.M.G., was the first to arrive, and shortly afterwards came the Conservative candidate, Sir George Armstrong. This was their first meeting, and both candidates shook hands most cordially. After the formali- ties of the nomination papers were over. Sir Owen and Sir George sat together for over an hour in a friendly conversation. # ♦ We congratulate Mr. Herbert G. Evans. clerk at the Ro>gistry Office, Pembroke, on his appoint- t) cut to the post of managing clerk at the Poor Law Offices ,Aberystwyth. Mr. Evans, who is a native of Narberth, has been in Pembroke for nearly five years, and his courteous and obliging manner has won for him a host of friends. We wish him every success. • • • Marriages are made in Heaven," said the poet, but tho exception proves the rule Mar- riages are sometimes made in the Workhouse. The Pembroke Board of Guardians, advertised a jjolint sippointment—porter and laundress—for Mian and wife, but one of the applicants, with exceptional qualifications, guaranteed that he would, marry the laundress if they were appoint-ed. They were selected, and after travelling many miles, came before the Board on Thursday last. arid were successful. The redding bells will shortly chime. The new porter, by the way, is ( ft. 4Jin. in height—a veritable giant. » • • A good election story is going the rounds, and the writer can vouch for its truthfulness. In the t illage of Cosheston. a few miles from Pe nbroke, a Tariff Reform orator was continually inter- i opted by a boy. Exasperated at last, the speaker *'cried out. "Look here, myjjoy, when you are«»old enough to be entrusted with a vote you wila,ve more sense, perhaps. I will not be questioned by ]).oy. .Nti,ke thee no mistake, n-aister*' retorted the boy's father. Our Jack's a (leyiJ to eat. and he's afraid thou art- goin' to tax hiswod I"
SECOND DAY. I
SECOND DAY. I There was again on Friday only a small at- tendance, the postponement having doubtless had the effect of interfering with racegoers' other engagements. This is very unlucky for the committee, and the Boiling races brought no con-t I solation, only a. small suiplus being realised for the fund, which in consequence of the poor gate will need replenishing by subscribers This is the more regrettable because no <.ne could work harder to secu:'c success than the hon. sec.. Mi. Vincent Thomas, whose arrangements are al ways most complete and satisfactory. Owing to the fall of rain during Thursday night the snow was cleared right away, and the course was, COil- sidering the circumstances, very fair going, with the result that sport was throughout of an [ interesting character. In the Stewards' Selling Hurdle Race ,Mr. Beauchamp's Ahlalative was n ade favourite but a large number of local j backers fancied Mr. Harrison's The Lieutenant on its running of the previous day, and they had the satisfaction of seeing him come home a winner with a couple of lengths between him and the second. The favourite was never really in the if ce. Odds of two to one on Mr. W. E. Sharpe's Dying Duck were betted in the Towy Maiden Steeplechase, and the gelding won in hollow 1 fashion, after running out half a mile from home and being broight into the coursa again. For the Carmarthen Town Selling Handicap Mr. J. F 1 loyd's Rosethorpe was a strong tip & taking j the lead when half the journev^iad been traversed the favourite came along and won by ten lengths. A Tenby horse again won .in 0 the Bronwydd | Hurdle Race, when Mr. D .Harrison's Maudberg came to the front at the last hurdle, beating the j favourite Petit Tor and St. Remi, the last named taking second place. 1 lie final race was the United Counties Open Handicap, in which Mr. B. O'Donnell's Silent Bird carried some Irish money, but the betting closed with L'Abbe Royal ;•!•(! Whitcliffe equal favourites. Three-quarters of a mile from home Whitcliffe fell, and below the stand Silent Bird looked like coming away from L'Abbe Royal, but made a fault at the fence, after wlileli the, wijirier was not further troubled. STEWARDS' SELLING HURDLE RACR I Of 30 so.,s.-Two miles. I 10 5 Mr. Harrison's be THE LIEUTENANT by Pride—Evermore, 4yrs .Mr J. R. Anthonv 1 10 13 Mr .F. M. Rudges's JACK SPRAGGON (all olb.) B. Roberts 2 11 9 Mr. F. G. Sikes's USHER, aged .P. | Sheehan 3 10 t. Mr. R .Carpentier's DREAM AWAY, I 4yrs J. E. Walker 0 10 5 Mr .Beauchump's Ahlalative, 4ys .J. Hunt 0 (Winner trained by R. W .Smith, Tenby). Betting—Evens Ahlalative, 2 to 1 against The J.ieutenant, 4 to 1 Usher,, and 10 to 1 each Jack Spraggon.and Dream Away. DrallL Away made the running from Usher, with The Lieutenant last. This order was main- tained for half the journey, when Usher went to the front, but gave v ay at the last hurdle to The l ieutenant, who won by two lengths; ten lengths between second and third. The winner was bought in for 65 ns. TOWY MAIDEN STEEPLECHASE Of 40 sovs.-Two miles. 11 6 Mr .W. E. S harp's bg DYING DUCK, by Gallinule—Ladyland a. (all 51b.) Mr. Brogden i 1- 6 Mr. L .Beauchamp's GREY DIAMOND. 6vrs (all 51b.) G. Naish 2 11 6 Mr. T. H. S. Montefiore's MELODY V. (all Mb). Owner 0 (Winner trained by Brogden, Banbury). Betting—2 to 1 on Dying Duck, 5 to 2 agst G-iey Diamond, an d7 to 1 Melody V. Melody V. made play from Dying Duck for throoparts of the journey, when Dying Duck ran, out, but was quickly righted, and, coming along, won by two lengths. Melody V. was. pulled up. CARMARTHEN TOWN SELLING HANDICAP j STEEPLECHASE Of 40 sovs.—Two miles. 11 0 Mr. J .F. Lloyd's br h ROSETHORPE, I by Nunthorpe-Rosi. Salvator, aged I Mr .J .R .Anthony 1 10 5 Mr. C. S. Smith's CILWENDEG, a. Mr. A. Smith 2 10 3 Mrs. D .H. Hill's LOUGHMOE, aged J. E. Walker 3 (Winner trained by Cuthbertson, Cheltenham). Betting—5 to 2 on Rosethorpe, 3 to 1 agst Cil- wendeg, and 8 to 1 Loughmoe. r Loughmoe was attended by Cilwerideg for half the journey, when Rosethorpe took the lead, and, making the remainder of the running, won by ten lengths; two lengths between second and third There was no bid for the winner. BRONWYDD HURDLE RACE Of 40 sovs.—Two miles. 10 5 Mr. D .Harrison's b h MAUDBURG, by Hietermlaritzburg—Maude, 5yrs Mr. J. R .Anthony 1 10 5 Mi. F. G. Silkes's ST. REMI, 4yrs. P. Sheehan 2 10 5 Mr. H. Fetherstonliaugh's PETIT TOR 4yrs Mr .A. Smith 3 10 11 Lord St. Davids Jack Horner, 4yrs Hon. C. Philippps 0 (Winner trained by R. W. Smith, Tenby). Betting—6 to 4 against Petit Tor, 2 to 1 Jack Horrer, 9 to 4 Maudberg, 4 to 1 r..St. Remi. Petit Tor showed the way to Jack Horner and Maudberg for half the journey, when Maudberg went on second, and, coming out approaching the last hurdle, wen easily by ten lengths; two lengths between second and third i UNITED COUNTIES OPEN HANDICAP I STEEPLECHASE "I Of 40 sovs,—Three miles. I 11 3 Mr. R. Carpentier's bl g L'ABBE I ROYAL, by LAbba Morin-Princess Clare, a. (in 71b. ex.) Mr. A. Smith 1 10 0 Mr. B. O'Donnell's SILEJNT BIRD, I' a. J. M'Cormack 2 10 7 Mr. E. Shrimpton's Whitcliffe, aged I (all 51b) D.Byrne 0 It) 5 Mr. A .Bruce's THE SHAVER, aged I (car. lOst 61b.) J. W. Rogers 0 I (Winner trained by Dudley Hill, Ross). t Betting—6 to 4 each against L'Abbe Royal and Whitcliffe, 3 to 1 Silent Bird, and 10 to 1 The Shaver. The Shaver and I/Abbe Royal made alternate running for a mile, when The Shaver fell. Three- quarters of a i. ile from home Whitcliffe came down, and L'Abbe Royal making the remainder of the running won by a. length and a half.
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A LOCAL 'GENTLFMAN'li DICTUM.— An old con- tributor to our columns, who is known to many as a scholar and a thinker, sends a communication referring to late correspondence, in which one writer disputed the connection between religion and morality. In concluding his remarks our Correspondent says: "Christianity is useless to the political schemer unless it is adulterated with something else. Combii ations of adulterated Christianity and politics produce heaped up seas of iniquity, which are sometimes mistaken for the effects of religion."
MR. PHILIP SNOWDEN AND THE…
MR. PHILIP SNOWDEN AND THE BUDGET. [TO TH. JBorroa OF THB WZLOEMAN."] I IR-lll common with many other readers of your paper 1 was extremely pleased to see the letter which appeared in your last week's issue. from the pen of the Rev. T. M. Jcnes, Henry's Mote, Pem. I am bold enough to say that if it will only succeed in demolishing the hollow pre- tence which has been made so persistently in the past by the clergy themselves, namely, that c-hey j dft not participate in party politics, it will un- doubtedly lia v j served its purpose magnificently. It is obvious to all impartial spectators that Non- conformist ministers are no worse sinners in this respect than +he clergy of the Anglican Church. In regard to the contents of his letter, I may state on behalf of others as well as myself, that we se3 no reason for our ever being convinced of the validity of the inferences he would have us draw. Mr. Jones makes his appearance as an apologist on behalf of Earl Cawdor., who, it will be remembered, was keenly criticised by Mr. Llewelyn Williams for giving utterance to the statement that all the principles of Mr. LloyJ George's Budget agree dexactly with Mr. Philip Snowden's ideas about what a Budget should be, In proof of this Mr. Jones quotes a state- ment made by Mr. Lloyd George inJ;he House of Commons, together with certain words from a speech by Mr. Snowden. As one who is in close sympathy with tho Labour Party, I thankful'y admit that the Chancellor of the Exchequer might have adopted certain of Mr. Snowden's sugges- tons, yet we must boar in mind that the prin- tions, of death duties was incorporated in a ciple by Sir Win. Harco-art, long before Mr. Budget by Sir Wm. Harcourt, long before Mr. Snowden found his way into Parliament. What we, the supporters of the Budget, repudiate more than anthing else in Earl Cawdor's assertion, and in the letter of his apologist, is the infer- I ence that because" the principles of Mr. Lloyd I George's Budget agreed with the ideas of Mr Snowden," therefore the Budget is Socialistic. Mr Snowden himself flatly denies this. In the Christian Commonwealth," June 16th. 1.909, he accepts Mr. Balfour's definition of Socialism, namely, that the State is to take all the means of production into its own hands, and that pri- vate enterprise and private property are to come to an end. That is Socialism, and nothing else is Socialism. Social Reform is when the Stab, based on private enterprise, recognising that the best productive result can only be obtained by respect cf private property ,and encouraging pri- vate enterprisa, asks them to contribute towards great national, socialjand public objects." The above are Mr. Balfour's exact word s at Birming- ham on Nov. 14th; 1907. Mr. Snowden himself comments as follows: "If we accept Mr. Bal, four's definitions of Socialism and social reform- and I am not inclined to quarrel with them—then the propo&ais of the Budget ar? clearly not Socialism but are unmistakably social reform. There is no proposal for the State to take into its own hands all the means of production. It leaves the estate still based on private enter- prise. etc. If the taxation of private property and private enterprise is Socialism, then the Tories have piled up a long record of sin in this direction during the past half-century." May we in conclusion call the special attention of Mr Jones to the following quotation from the same artio?: We support the land taxation clauses not because we believe that taxation is the best way to deal with the land question. If Socialists* were in power they would transfer the instruments of production, etc.. to the commun- ity." Life is too brief to enable us to comment on Mr. Victor Grason's statements in the New Age he is not taken seriously by a consider- able number of his own party. It has really be- come a very amusing pastime of late to watch the doughty warriors of the great Tory party hurl ing their paper pellets at their opponents, hiding I behind tho sacred persons—Grayson the irre- sponsible Socialist and Blatchford the Agnostic Socialist. We have the right to expect some- I thing better from our would-be rulers and even from gentlemen educated in a less exalted place than Oxford Yours truly, i P DAVIFS. Carmarthen.
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