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CARMARTHEN TOWN COUNCIL.

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CARMARTHEN TOWN COUNCIL. A special meeting of the Town Council was held on Mon- day last in the Council Chamber, when they were present, essrs. J. L. Philippa (mayor), E. II Stacey, Geo. Goode, as. PUddicombl', Lewis Morris, Geo. Davies, John Adams, John Thomas (maltster), William Warren, Walter Lloyd, James Rowlands, Valentine Davis, John Thomas, and Dr. Lawrence. The minutes of the last meeting having been read, some conversation arose respecting the site of the manure heaps, and the suggestion to have two places instead of one, but no definite result was arrived at. Mr. Goode said the Council had for many years made rates for the purpose of paving and re-paving the streets, but he had never seen any report from the Surveyor as to the materials in hand or the manner in which they had been used. He then at great length detailed the system adopted by the County Roads Board, which he strongly recom- mended to the Council. The Surveyor explained that a system very nearly re- sembling that described by Mr. Goode- had been in use from the first, and the statements were always produced at the Meetings of the Council, but nc. one publicly noticed them. Mr. Goode having examined the statements, which the Surveyor at once produced, recommended some additions to them for the purpose of greater explicitness and the Council approving of them, the Surveyor was directed to attend to the suggestions. A highway rate of tenpence and a general district rate of ei, ghtpence in the pound, based on the estimate approved of at the last meeting, were formally ordered. Mr. Lewis Morris stated that he and Mr. Warren having been appointed to complete the preliminaries for improving the street at the end of Wood's Row, he had communicated with Mr. Johnes, the owner of the garden, a portion of which was required to widen the street, and in reply Mr. Johnes had consented to sell the strip of land on condition that the expense of purchasing should be defrayed by the Council, and a good substantial wall built in lieu of that to be removed, referring them for further details to Mr. Waltr-r Lloyd, who would be in a position to treat after inspecting the plan of the proposed improve- ment. He merely reported progress, and in a short time would be able to give further information. Mr. John Thomas rose to propose a person to make out all the rates of the borough under the control of the Coun- cil, and in doing so said that at the last meeting he named Mr. Brodribb as a fit and proper person for the appoint- I'lent but having more maturely considered the subject, he was now of opinion that the Town Clerk was the proper person to make out the rates, and in this conviction he was confirmed by the fact that under the old regime the Clerk made out all rates. He was aware that the Town Clerk deceived no salary for the duties he performed as clerk to the Local Board of Health, and he did not desire to increase his duties without remuneration When the Collector's salary was under discussion great stress was laid upon the labour of making the rate, representing it as a formidable portion of the Collector's duty. Now, if they could ascer- tain the value of those duties, deduct it from the Collector's salary, and add it to the salary of the Town Clerk, no in- justice would be done, while they secured the services of a responsible person. He therefore moved that the Town Clerk make out all the rates of the borough. The Town Clerk reminded the Council that all rates wore made on the basis of the poor rate assessment, and in the event of his appointment he should have to follow the Collector, who himself made the poor rate, and thus the object they had in view would be defeated. Mr. John Thomas could not suppose for a monent that the Town Clerk would adopt any error of the Collector. Mr. Walter Lloyd remarked that, if appointed, they should hold the Town Clerk responsible for every error. The Town Clerk bad no alternative; he should be obliged Implicitly to adopt the poor rate assessment, whether erro- neous or not. Mr. Walter Lloyd contended that the poor rate assess- Blent was not to be blindly followed, being merely the Principle to guide. The Town Clerk said that the Act of Parliament was specific on the point, and in obedience to its provisions the assessment must be adopted, whether right or wrong. Mr. Warren could not understand how the assessment ??let(?d the accuracy of the rates. It was true the assess- ment must be followed but as the rates differed in amount, the person who made up the book would have to abide by hIs Own calculations. Mr. Goode thought they had begun at the wrong end, as It ? ? the poor rate the mischief lay concealed. Mr. >Tn homas was surprised at these objections after the resolution entered upon their books at the last meeting. Were they to enter uPon the question de novo f Mr. oode reiterated his objection that if anything was wrong it was in the poor rate, and he would repeat again what he had frequently said, that St. Peter's was the only parish in the Principality where the poor rate assessment was not periodically audited. The parishioners he supposed did not think it worth while to look into these matters, and if any errors existed they had to thank their own negli- gence for it and they should remember that the assessment on which so much depended, was sltprcd every quarter. Mr. John Thomas replied that they had no control over the poor rate, and the circumstance of the assessment being erroneous did not do away with the advantages de- rivable from the duties of collector and assessor being im- posed upon two persons instead of one. It was anomalous for the collector to make his own rate, and the collector at the last meeting stated that he had himself long been impressed with the necessity of separating duties incom- patible with each other, and the Town Clerk, too, had expressed an opinion that it should be done. He was astonished to find so wonderful a change in men's views on this question. The Town Clerk had not changed his opinion as he still thought an evil existed, but the remedy proposed would not meet it, and it was necessary to go to the root of the matter by commencing with the assessment of the poor rate. The first thing was to have a proper assessment, as was proved by the fact that the reduction in it had been so great that an eight-penny rate of former years produced more than a shilling rate at present. Mr. Warren understood that the assessment had only recently been rectified. The Town Clerk said it was now as defective as any assessment could well be.  Mr. John Thomas hoped the Town Clerk did not say some time since that he would copy errors when they were de- tte^ctepd in the poor rate.  Town Clerk replied that he certainly meant it as t h ere  no alternative for him. Mr. John Thomas said, even if that were the case, there a.s the security which must inevitably arise from the rate v,0; ?P? four or five times every year. th 1M/^ Warren observed that if the assessment was correct thpi could easily detect an error, as the amount collected mi eori,cspond with the total assessment. t 1'1'. mas argued that errors were not so easy of de- tectioll as there was always a deficiency under the head "irrecoverable," All, Warren understood irrecoverable rates were spe- CI e Mr. Thomas would suppose that premises were returned as vacant, might not the collector, were he so disposed, continue to make that return for his own profit ? Indeed, there were a hundred ways of defrauding under the present system. Mr. Warren believed it was the duty of the overseers and collector to make the assessment, and if that were light it was impossible to defraud without detection. Mr. Thomas thought he had shown them that there were very many facilities for fraud and error in the present sys- tem and having thus done his duty in the matter he left it In the hands of the council. Mr. Walter Lloyd had much pleasure in seconding the proposal made by Mr. Thomas. Mr. Goodc Was desirous to begin with the poor rate. Mr. stacey expiained the method which had been adopted in naliDg the assessment and the only way in which it could he rectified, giving rise to a discussion maintained i t or three ;;he differed in some slight respect as to "y ft? ? ?° differed in some slight respect as to ,,1C ac. The Collector in reply to a question, stated that the assessment had been greatly altered of late. years, and it was always subject to alteration when any just cause was snewn to the satisfaction of the overseers. The assess- £ ^e^ was now ^000 being a reduction of more than X4,000. Mr. Goode entered into a variety of particulars re- spectingthe collector's salary, giving a history of its various changes and his own conduct in reference to it, but it did not bear upon the question at issue. Mr. George Davies contended that it was useless to begin with any other than the poor rate, which was the root of the evil. Mr. John Thomas was aware that the root lay beyond their reach as a council, but that should. not deter them from lopping off some of the branches let them do all they could. Mr. Warren should be most happy to support the motion if any one could convince him that it would prove effective for good. In the event of the Town Clerk being ap- pointed, he would employ a clerk to do the work—where then was the security ? Mr. Thomas could not conceive how councillors remained blind to the advantages of carrying out the proposition unanimously adopted at the last meeting. Was it neces- sary that he should go into the question again and show that it was possible for the collector to keep duplicate books, and to defraud in many other ways ? Surely it must be self-evident that by imposing the duty of making out rates upon the Town Clerk, the responsibility would rest upon him whoever he might employ. The Town Clerk said that he should necessarily employ the most competent person he could find, with instruc- tions to copy the poor-rate assessment whether correct or erroneous. Mr. Lewis Morris asked what good could possibly arise from the proposed change. Mr. Thomas replied that they should do all in their power o prevent fraud and inaccuracy. What motive could the on Clerk have to copy errors ? LL,,Tis Morris did not see any necessity for the chane, aS the Town Clerk would have to perform merely e.ru^ {a,"°ur, for if any one was assessed at £ 25 instead nhe could not alter it. °,\ffr thought special notice should be given on a qll('st'on of so much importance. 9 if, S produced the notice caliing the present mpptincr to he cOntended was sufficient for every pur- Dose HHc p ,h1n0nPeJd f ,they would not stultify themselves by rCBCiDdiDg the motion made at r last ?" ? Mr. Geo. Davies misunderstood the terms of the motion, behevmg that It included the poor-rate, and had that been tthhe e ccaasse e lhie e s6hhon ulld rl h have supported Mr. Th\ omas. Mr. Adams did not see how »inv u on that IJoint as the counc'} h' d' ) rlllt3 I' cou a"8e on that point, as the council had n"? ° ?con? tro? l over the poor- rate. Jno. Thomas said he Id' under Jno. Thomas said he would withdraw his motion,  rposc that III future Mr. Brodribb should pXroes?u?S? ? '? ?? ?oMr. Brodribb The Town Clerlt wirhed it to be clearly understood that there was no ^eluctance on h" part to the appointment if the council agreed ?' ? ? ? appointment if Mr.TS £ perfectly aware of that. r. Citode repeated I' b.. ? hoPed ?- Thomas would re?edy?he' liS. t°y c?at?lm' g and hoped Mr. ing. e y t e evil by calling a "estry meet- pe^ev^S his^otionf do any such thing, but he shonld persevere in  ? ?? tlung, ? ? shonld Mr. Lewis Morris considered the motion useless and without foundation, as it would not rectify any defects. If they went to the poor rate he would assiit them, for the assessment was full of errors and ought to be entirely altered. He thought that until some definite accusation was brousrht against the Collector the motion ought not to have bpen inade. That was his opinion, and he would repeat, the motion was utterly unnecessary. Mr. Thomas justified the course he had adopted. A long and animated discussion ensued as to the terms of the motion adopted at the last meeting, and the meaning of it. Mr. Thomas then altered his resolution to its original form, That the Town Clerk make out all rates," and Mr. Walter Lloyd seconded it. Grcat confusion here arose, and several counter motions and amendments were made, which, if inserted in this place, would only embarrass the reader, as it would be utterly impossible to understand them without lengthened expla- nation, which is not required, as the original motion was subsequently adopted with unanimity. A discussion followed as to the remuneration to be paid to the Town Clerk, who stated his intention to employ Mr. James Morria, the Collector's brother, to make out the rate-hooks, as he was more familiar with the work than any other person, and take upon himself the resporisi- biliiy. The Collector then agreed to a deduction of 1;10 per annum from his salary, which the Town Clerk consented to accept as payment for the work imposed upon him. Mr. Rowlands spoke at some length in deprecation of the proceedings of this meeting, and complimented the Collector upon his excellent character. On the motion of Mr. Warren, the Surveyor was directed to insert in the plan of the town all recent improvements and alteriltions. The meeting then terminated.

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