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? Abergavenny Rural CouncH. j f, AbergaYennJ_ural Council. THE HOUSING QUESTION. LANDOWNERS AND THE G.W.R. COMPANY I AN TO BE ASKED TO BUILD. The monthly mi.ct.iug of the Abergavenny Rural Council was Jheld on Tuesday, Mr. Rober Johnson presiding There were also present Sir. Edgar W. Lew (vice-chairman). Rev. I), F. Valters. Messrs. Joan Prichard. R. J. ott. Alired Edwards, Charles Thomas. John Baynam, Joseph Griffiths, V:1. Haines, Morgan David. i. R. Pym, and Jciikin-. Chicken Pox. I The Sanitary Inspector Ofe A. J. W'illcox) xr-ported that, apart from two cases ot chicken- pox at Llantilio Fertholey, there had been no c?i?,s (-. til(? la-?t <:a?s 0¿ infections <?'? since the la*t meeting. Cottages and Increased Rents.. The Sanitary Inspector reported that lie had ) inspected Springwell > Cottage^, under the In- crease 01 Rent and Mortgage Restriction Act. He had come to th- conclusion that they were reasonably fit for habitation aDd were kept in a reasonable state 01 repair, although they re- quired certain miner repairs. It was the sani- tary conveniences Alill the outhouses that the tenants complaine(-, and he should be glad to receive instructions to serve notices Oil the cwner to have the- matters attended to. The Inspector w-> authorised to serve the jnecessary notices. The Hot-sing Question. I "Resorts were submitted of inquiries held in various parishes by a sub-committee on the housing question and recommendations were made where houses were considered to be re- quired. It was suggested that the Railway Company and landowners should be written to and asked if they -,v-re prepared t o build any of the houses which were needed. Mr. Prichard asked when they were going to the owners and the C, W. R. Co. if they -would put up hous- If they gut replies that they were prepared so it would help them iu the future. Mr. Haines said the same question had been faised :l Herefordshire, where the RaHwav i- Herefori??-,lre. Railiva- had be(= liou,ts for « Mr. P-m said lic- t?,e Rai!Nx-a,?- Company were prepared, when strong represen- tations were m,,t(le, iii(i he thought, it would be j a good thing if they (¡t tlla t bt d ])li .,helL Who Is To Pay ? I Mr. {organ David said it a question whether it was not better for the Council to build houses than to as landlords to do so. They knew that the cost of building was exorbitaut- perkapo three times more than the pre-war cost, tipeaking as a farmer, he could hardly expect his landlord to build houses for him at three times the pre-war cost and not raise the rent, whereas it the Council jbuilt in the ordinary way under the scheme there was no reason why the rent should be raised at all. He would deri ve a benefit under the scheme. They as farmers would be better off i: the landlords were left out of h- He did not why they should go out their way to rerievc the taxpayer, because he maintained that it the landlords built the houses they (the tenants) would have to pay the whole cost themselves, but if they went on under the scheme they would only have to pay id. in the T"e Chairman It will come to more than id. in t\? ? eventua l ly. Mr. Morgan Duvid W L '?' should we, as :'t:: i:;?i'"d 1, bi rents ? Mr. Prichard Why should the country pro- vide yoa with three cottage at the rent as you have to pay now ? The people who shculd provide cottages Lr-. the landlords. It is lar l.«etrer for the estate to have the cottages belong- ing to the landlord, and I believe they are the men to put up the cottages. Mr. Morgan David For whomsoever we build the cottage, he is the employee of somebody, and why should we distinguish between one em- ployee and another I am of opinion that if the landlord has to spend a tremendous amount of money on building cottages you can't expect him. to do it without raising the rent to a certain extent, and it is better for you' as a tenant to pay Hi. rate than extra rent. M, Haines But would not the rent lie would fairly expect to receive from the cottages be a lair return for the outlay ? Mr. Morgan David said that the Government had brought this scheme forward because of the cost cf labour and materials. They could not build houses and let them at an economic rent, iinci. they were prepared to lose money on them. The Government wanted to provide houses at a rent which people could py. Mr. Prichard want all the people round you a pay for ccttages for your workmen to live ii:, Mr Morgan David The same as I have to pay for other people's. K:, Prichard We want the principle that the landlords be asked to provide cottages for their estates. Mr Morgan David; I think it Ls a wrong principle. Mr..Prichard Y m want us to pay for your workmen's cottages. Landlords Can't Afford To Build. I y, Pym said that there were extremely few landlords who could aftord to build cotfages, at the present cost, to compete ivith the subsidised cottages of the Government. If the landlord built a cottage, he would have to charge 16-s, per week in order to get an economic rent, but if the < Government built they would let a" Ss. or 9S, per week. The landlord would naturally say Way should I build cottages which I could not afford to let at less than 16s. per week to compete with cottages at 8s. per week r The Council would have to build houses because there were very few landlords who could afford to do so. Mr. Morgan David Why should people pay higher rents and also id. rate towards other people's cottages Joseph Griffirlv; said that they were going "IT -e track altogether. He did not think that tnis housing scheme was mtenaed for individuals or companies to take up. The Government had < .utiined a scheme to build houses for the working classes, and he believed that there was so much money set aside for this particular purpose, aid the business was out into their hands to erect houses where they were wanted. If they lost the opportunity to build it would be their own f iu_t. and the rising generation would be short of houses because they neglected to use the mceey which was available. If the Railway Company or the landlords chose to build houses. weil and good, but the Councd were entrusted with money to build houses. The Chairman Whose nlOl:CY i-, it Mr. Griffiths It won't make any difference to one parish whether we get houses in that parish. The monev will he spent Mr. Baynam We shall have to pav it. If we don't spend it the Government will, and We anight as well have the spending of it. Mr. Morgan David We shah have to pay i: ) o p?-, y i- 'v.h??her we spend it "r not. Mr. Prichard I call you a very bad guardian of eke public pur?e. t? f, a ii,, !it e: 4" 1 t. 1. '1 't. Mr. Pym SUgge-;teo that the whole Council should be appointed as the Housing Committee, as had been done by other bodies. They would then be able to get to business without any de1.1- Mr. Morgan David said it would meet the tase if t ole Council resolved iitseif into the Housing committee, and then it could be called whenever necessary, and would, have full power to go cn with the work. Mr. Pym moved that the whole Council be the liaising Committee, with plenary powers. Mr. Morgan David seconded and it was carried. The Council subsequently sat as the Housing ■Committee and dealt with the reports from various parishes and made arrangements for inquiries in the remaining parishes. The Clerk waj instructed to write to the Railway Company and the landlords concerned to ask them whether they were prepared to build any of the houses xeqvired. Wate Suppliesr Wanted. The Llantilio Pertholey Parish Council wrote calLng attention to the state of the highway at Brvngwenin, and also asking the Council to take steos to provide the Mardy with a proper water suoply and a better system of sanitary arrange- ments. The Surveyor was instructed to report on the matter. The Llanvihangel Crucorney Parish CO:L:1d asked the Council to take immediate steps to secure a proper water supply for the inhabitants of the parish. The present state of things should not be allowed to continue. A large number of Jtouses were absolutely without water and were obtiged to use water from polluted sources. Dr. Steele, M.O.H., stated that he reported CD this matter aoiue years ago, but the Council at that time decided that there was water within a reasonable distance, and the consequence wa> that matters were left as they were. The Surveyor was instructed to report on the matter. A Govilon Road." Mr. Alfred Edwards. who bad !)een appointed with Mr. Edgar Lewis to inspect the mountain road leading from the Tilla to the Cwm fit Govilon, said that when they visited the road it was covered with grass. The}- could not hud that there was any traffic of any kind, on the road. They interviewed several ratepayers, who were of opinion that the proposed laying of i a drain to carry oh the water was not required. One person stated that he had not seen anyone there since the previous committee meeting, some three or four months ago. and he said"he had never seeu any vehicle there. Mr. Edgar I.ewis said that they could not )" ou a road like that. Prom inquiries they made the}- could j not tllld that it was necessary The Rev. Ii F Walter.- said that it was only ou Fridav morning that he learned that lie was appointed to this committee, and that was the reason he failed to he present. Practically tile- whole of the Parish Council went to see this lane wit h Mr. Gwillim and himself. The road was quite out of repair. It was the main road lead- in from the Cwm to the Tilla, and some -cir, ago there was a good deal of traffic there, hut since the road had got into such-a terrible state- i 'lic people could not use it. The only effective way of repairing the road was by the scheme suggested by tiie Surveyor. Mr. Edwards said thev came to the conclusion that it was not necessary, because there was no traffic there. Mr. Walters said that, with all respect to the committee, they could not expect traffic on a road in that condition. They ought to pay some deference to the decision of a whole Parish Council, who had lived in the district for years and knew something about the place- Mr. Prichard proposed that the report cf the committee be adopted. After further discussion the matter was allowed, t" drop. Roadmen's Wages. Eollowing" the recent increases in wages to several roadmen, applications were received from a imml.fr of others for similar increases. The Purveyor said that some oi the men fdt that they should he paid the same rate as the- agricultural labourers. The Chairman said he thought they were hound to give them the same as the agricultural labourers, who got privileges that the roadmen did not get. It was decided to increase the wages of the able-bodied men to 41s. Ocl. per week. Hauling Diiffculties. I The Surveyor stated that it was very difficult to get stone hauled on the roads, and he should be glad if members could give him the names of people who would be prepared to do hauling. The question of the purchase of a traction for haiding purposes was mentioned, and the Sur- veyor said there was no doubt the Council would have to face this question in the future. Mr. Joseph Griffiths proposed that the Sur- vevor should be instructed to make inquiries as to what a traction engine could be purchased for. Mr. l'ym seconded, and it was carried. Protest from Llanvihangel. I A letter was read to the Housing Committee from the Llanvihangel Crucorney Parish Council protesting against the Council's method of pro- cedure with regard to housing, as a residt of which the Parish Council declined to take any part in the public inquiry which was to be held in the parish. They felt that the Rural Council should have accepted their application for eight new houses. On» January 18th they were asked to state whether any new houses were required, and after fully considering the matter thev decided that there was an immediate need for ei ht new houses. That decision was conveyed to the Parish Council. On the 13th of May the Clerk informed the Parish Council that their estimate of eight houses was accepted, and asking them to suggest a site or sites. They met on the 26th May and selected four sites. Having fullv eonsidered the housing question from the local standpoint, they failed to see the need of an in- I quiry, and they considered that they had not been treated fairly by the committee. Mr. Joseph Griffiths said that the Parish Council were under the impression that the Rural Council were ignoring them and were going to upset their decision. The Chairman said he did not think there was any intention of doing sc. Bad Houses at Cwmyoy Upper. I The report of the sub-committee with regard I to Cwmyoy Upper stated that in their opinion no new houses were required in the parish. Dr. Steele said there were a number of houses which would not in future be passed by a Local Government Board inspector. Mr. Baynam said that the committee came to their decision on the evidence placed before them. Mr. Prichard said lie did not think they should go into this matter now. If ¡Dr. Steele had neglected to do his duty in bringing these houses forward it was not their fault. Dr. Steele said he had reported on the houses time after time, but nothing had been done, i He and the other officials had had the hardest fight to get any houses at all closed. The line taken by the Council was that there was no place for the people to go to if the houses were closed. Mr. Pym said it was a very important matter. -and the Council should consider whether thev were prepared to build houses to replace those which should be condemned. Mr..Xott said that the houses in the parish were average houses, and if the houses referred to were closed they would have to close hundreds of similar houses in other parishes. After further discussion the report o: the Afte- -?,,iitiler (i?.sciis-?, i (,)n tile report (, tlic. +

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