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VISIT TO THE CLAIMANT.—On Monday morning there arrived at Portsmouth on a visit to the claimant at the Portsea Conviet Prison, Messrs. Quartoraaaine East, Ilavworth (of Southampton), Biddulph (eousin of Sir Roger Tiehborue, the only member of tho Tichborne family who admitH the olE.imant to be the true Sir Roger), the claimant's two sons (hoger and James), Mr Gray (chairman of tho Southampton Tichborne Release Association), Mr Parkes. and Mr llelsbv. They found the prisoner in fair health, but not the best of spir'ts, there bointr no prospect of his liberation till the expiration of his sentence. I HAVERFORDWEST TOWN COUNCIL. A meeting of the members of this body was held at the Council Chamber on Thursday last. There were present W. P. Ormond, Esq., (Mayor), Mr J. Marychurch, Mr J. Thomas, Mr J. Phillips, Mr Jno. James, Mr S. Thomas, Mr T. James, Mr R. T. P. Williams, Mr Farrow, Mr J. Rowlands, Mr M. White, Mr W. Williams, Mr H. James, Mr W. M. Phillips, and Mr Baker. NEW COUNCILLORS. Clerk: Mr Mayor-Tbe gentlemen who were elected councillors on the first of November, have all qualified on their acceptance of office, and I have the honour to introduce them-Mr W. Williams, Mr R. T. P. Williams, Mr T. Baker, and Mr Jas. Rowlands. Mayor We are very pleased indeed to receive them as members of this honourable board. Perhaps they would allow him to say that twelve months since they did him the honour to place him in the responsible position of chief magistrate of this his native town. During the year he had endeavoured to discharge the various duties pertaining to the office of Mayor to the best of his ability. He had had the distinguished honour of representing them in the presence of royalty not only in their own town, but also at the magnificent banquet given by the Lord Mayor of London in the Mansion House. The visit of their Royal Highnesses the Duke and Duchess of I I I r,aint)urgii to old tiaverfordwest was a memorable event, and he could not refer to it without mention- ing the courtesy shown him by the very worthy Lord Lieutenant of the town and county and his amiable lady. He sincerely hoped that the day was not far distant when the beloved sovereign of these realms, and the Prince and Princess of Wales would honour our ancient town with a visit, and in that case he was sure the people of this little England beyond Wales would manifest their loyalty in a most hearty and becoming manner. He may mention that several matters of importance had been dealt with within the year now terminating. The meat market which had been, complained of for years as being in a filthy con- dition had been renovated, painted, and made clean and satisfactory. Some important sections of drain- age had been thoroughly effected, and would form part of the drainage of the town when the whole work was accomplished. The scheme for a supplemental water supply from Slade Spring was maturing, and very shortly the necessary deed. conveying to the Corporation the land required for a reservoir and other rights would be completed. The Portfield Reservoir yields a large supply, and the one at the Fountain had yielded an unprecedented quantity: since the various stops had been repaired and the great leakage prevented, the supply had been most satisfactory. They began the year with two or three feet of water in the Fountain, and they had there now over 10 feet. The slaughter house question was fairly on the rails, and the resolutions of the Council with regard to the purchase of the site and other matters would, he believed, be attended to without delay. In all his efforts he had been much helped by their courtesy and kindness, for which he was most grateful. He had to acknowledge the courtesy of the officials, who had always been ready to assist him, and he wished also to acknowledge the courtesy of the representatives of the Press. The time for his delivering up all that was necessary to bo delivered up had now arrived, and it was his duty to ask them to nominate a gentleman for the office of chief magis- trate of this borough for the ensuing year. THE NEW MAYOR. I Mr Alderman Phillips proposed and Mr S. Thomas I seconded the nomination of Mr W. Farrow as Mayor, I which was unanimously adopted by the Council. THE SHERIFF. I On the motion of Mr Wm. Williams seconded by I Mr M. White, Mr David Roberts, was unanimously elected as Sheriff during the ensuing year. OFFICERS. I The other officers of the Council having been duly elected, and a vote of thanks having been given and I responded to hy the ex-mayor, the meeting adjourned until seven o'clock in the evening. THE ADJOURNED MEETING. At the adjourned meeting held on Thursday even- ing there were present—Alderman J. Thomas, J. Marychurch, and J. Phillips, and Councillors W. P. Orniond, W. Williams, \V. M. Phillips, Michael White, R. T. Propert Williams, John James, Samuel Thomas, Thomas James, Henry James, and Thomas Baker. DEPUTY MAYOR. m1 1 I IF J.ne iown uteris said tne Mayor had appointed the ex- Mayor as his deputy, and accordingly signified the appointment to the Council as requested by law. The Borough Treasurer, Mr J. Lewis, produced his balance sheet which shewed that there was a net balance in hand on all accounts of X- 18 Os 3d. Alderman Thomas enquired how they stood that day twelve months. It was explained that a lot of money had been expended during the last year on the Market House. THE SALVATION ARMY. I The Treasurer said that he had received another I letter from Major Coombe who said he was sorry the Council could not alter their terms and would lay their letter before General Booth. (Laughter). m. m NEW BRIDGE QUESTION., l'he Town Clerk mentioned that he had that day received a letter from Mr Alderman Davies, M.P., who, in consequence of his being detained in London, was unablo to be present at that meeting, and had, therefore, requested him to bring the matter before the Couijoil. It hitd reference to the proposed transfer of mo New hrid,, and approaches to the Town Council, as the Urban Sanitary Authority. It had an important bearing upon the subject of borrowing L2,000 for completing the sewerage of the town. An opinion of an eminent counsel had been obtained on the point, he would read Mr Ald. Davies's letter:— House of Commons, November 8th, 1882. Dear Sir,—You will have sent you to-day the opinion (in full) of counsel regarding the New Bridge. Will you lay the whole matter before the Council to- morrow, I regret I am unable to be present. I strongly advise that we should make the necessary application at once to the Local Government Board. There seems no reason for allowing so heavy a balance to remain in the Bridge Commissioner's hands which clearly belongs to the town, and can be at once used by the Council most advantageously to the inhabitants. I think we have adopted a wise course in not bringing the matter be fore the Council until our views wore fortified by so able a man as the counsel who his advised, and on whoso opinion we may, I believe, safely act. I am, dear sir, Yours truly, W. DAVIES. Air ttenry Uavies, Town Clerk, Haverfordwest. The Clerk said lie would be happy to read the opinion if the Council wished. Mr Milligan Phillips: Who ordered it ? The Clerk: No one here. M. R. Williams: Is this £2,000 wanted imme- diately. The Clerk said that as Mr Williams was a new member he would briefly make him acquainted with the facts, which were that the Local Government Board had urged the Sanitary Authority to com- plete the drainage of the town, and the council ap- plied to the Board for their sanction to borrow Y,2000 to enable them to do so, and sent them plane and estimates prepared by their own surveyor, but the Board required that a competent engineer should be employed. Mr R. Williams enquired whether the S,2,000 would bo required in twelve months He did not think it likely that the Bridge Commissioners would part with the money in their hands without a fight. The Clerk said the money was wanted as soon &1 practica ble. Mr Aid. Thomas said that when the matter came up at the last meeting he thought possibly to save time to get the money here, but the lowest interest he could find would be 5 per cent. He knew nothing of this opinion. Mr. W. Williams asked what was the security offered at 5 per cent. Aid. Thomas I did not go as far as that. Mr W. Williams Hava you any security. The Clerk Yes, we have the rates. Mr Samuel Thomas Can we do that without the consent of the Local Government Board. The Clerk If anyone chose to lend, of course he might do so, but it was not likely without proper security. Aid. J. Thomas: Anyone can lend and take the risk. Clark I have had two offers at four per cent, re- payable by annual instalments, extending over a period of 40 or 50 years. Mr W. Williams: Without the security of the rates ? (Laughter). The Clerk Oh No, no. Mr S. Thomas: The Local Government Board would have to be consulted. Mr White We could do it on the security of tho rates subject to the mortgages existing. Mr R. Williams Can' t w" take it that tho opinion is in favor of the object in N iew ? The Clerk I'll read the opinion but omitting the case—cases you know, Mr Williams, are sometimes very voluminous. (Laughter.) An animated and protracted talk then ensued as to the advisability of reading the opinion, when the Clerk said While you have been talking gentlemen I could have read the case and opinions." The opinion* were then read, and for the information of our readers wo have also inserted the questions put to Counsel. cory QUESTIONS. 'I "T. lilt nether the -New Bridge and its approaches are now rested in the Commissioners under the Looal Act, or in the Urban Sanitary Authority under sec. 70 of the Public ilealth Act, 1875, having regard to tho fact that the bridge in question is not a "County BIAge as declared by the Local Act. 2nd. If the brid?o 18 s ill ves?-J in <he Commis- sinners, cannot the Urb&:i Sanitary AuLln'dLy up?u the grounds stated, apply saecc-iisfally to the Local Government Boa..d for a provisional order to repeal, alter, or amend the Local Act, so as to have the accumulated fund now in the haudtf "f th" Bridge Commissioners transferred to them, to be applied as well for tiie purpose of maintaining the bridge and iis approaches, a* for the general benefit of the town, under the Public llaalth Act or otherwise Oil condi- tion that they take upon themselves the obligations to repair the bridge and approaches henceforth out of the Geneml Distriot Rate. Aud also to have trans- ferred to them all remaining powers vested in the Commissioners under the Local Act ? Counsel iays to this question I am of opinion that such uu. Application can be laade, «nu had better be made at once, to save the Session of 1883. The Com- missioners will have a locus standi to be heard against it, and then the whole point will be in issue before a competent tribunal. 3rd. Seeing that both principal and interest on the mortgage security on the tolls have been comple'ely discharged, are the Commissioners legally authorised to enforce payment of tolls even on one day in the year as they have been accustomed to do, taking into consideration that by sec 4 of the amended act 6 and 7 W. 4, Ch. CXVI, that when the same shall have been repaid the tolls should cease and be no longer payable, and an ample fund being accumulated to keep the bridge and approaches in repair ? To this question Counsel remarks-Without the text before me I hesitate to speak confidently as to this, but there are evident grounds of great impor- tance to sustain the opinion that the Commissioners toll levying powers are spent. Counsel further adds—The points in this case being somewhat numerous and complicated, I have thought it convenient to make some marginal observations, On the case as a whole, I am of opinion that there exist ample grounds to justify the Corporation of Haverfordwest in taking some steps. I should advise tWat an application be made to the Local Government Board for a provisional order to repeal the Local Act, and transfer its remaining powers to the Corporation, ana it tms tails, x should advise that the Uommis- sioners be indioted for non-repair of the footways, supposing they appear liable, but on this point I can- not at this moment speak with confidence, net having the Local Act before me. If the Coramissioners powers of levying tolls are not I spent, of course they are within their rights in levy- ing tolls once a year. I COPY FURTHER CASE. Counsel will please peruse the local acts left here- with, and supplement his opinion with any further advice. And set out the necessary form to be pursued in obtaining the sanction of the Local Government Board. COPY FURTHER OPINION. I have further considered the position of the Haver. fordwest Now Bridge Commissioners and am of opinion that their toll-levying powers are at an end this seems the inevitable conclusion from the language of Sect. 4. of the Act of 1836. As an independent question I am of opinion that the duty of repairing the footways of the approaches always went with the duty of repairing the roadway. I can see notning in the local act to imply any dis- tinction. Finally I am of opinion that the Bridge as a whole and all its appurtenances is now vested in the Urban Authority of the Borough, and that no further delay should take place in winding up the Commission by aid of the Local Government Board which possesses all needfuf powers for the purpose. The application to that Board seed not be in any very formal shapo. It is only necessary in the first instance fer the Urban Authority to pass a resolution, and for a copy of that resolution under seal to be transmitted to the Local Government Board. The resolution shall recite briefly the fact of this being an effete Commission in existence holding property for purposes which can be more regularly and properly dealt with by the Corporation and praying the Local Government Board to put in force its powers under Sub. See. 303 and 306 of the Public Health Act, 1875. The Mayor: The matter is now before you gentle- men. If the £2,000 be required, the sum in the hands of the Bridge Commissioners will go a long way to help. Mr W. Williams: Are there any preliminary ex- penses ? I should not like to throw away good money after bad. The Clerk The application would not be attended with any, or at all events, but small expense. Mr R. Williams Suppose if it were opposed ? The Clerk Opposition is generally attended, as you know with expense Mr Williams. (Laughter). Mr S. Thomas: Would it do to stand over until our next meeting ? The Clerk said he had a ciroular which was annually issued by the Local Government Board and which advised that applications for provisonal orders should be made before the 15th of October, but the latest time to do so would be the end of December, so that if they meant to act on the opinion, they should lose no time. Mr Samuel Thomas: We have a deal to do to- night. Mr Joseph Thomas We had letter defer it until the next meating. We shall be able to deal with it better. Mr William Williams Where are we to go, to get further information ? Mr T. James: You can't go further than the opinion, and we should be glad to know who had directed the opinion to be taken. Mr Ormond, suggested the reading of the case, and as to why the opinion had been taken, some one no doubt must have supposed we could get th a LI,400 or £ 1,500 towards the £ 2,000. Mr Samuel Thomas I don't know what the powers of the Bridge Commissioners are. Mr W. Williams: Let us know who drew up the case, we shall know what value to attach to it then. The Clerk You can't attach value to it, until you hear it, (laughter). Well it was I drew up the case: Mr W. Williams: Oh! then I do attach value to it. (Laughter). it. (Lau' )?illiams: Would like to know why this matter was brought forward, and by whom. Mr Samuel Thomas suggested that a Committee sbou6 0. appointed to {oolc into And report on the matter at the next meeting. Mr W. Williams said that as time was a matter of importance he would move that application be made to the Local Government Board to have the powers of the Borough Commissioners transferred to the Urban Authority. The Clerk: Your suggestion is a good one, Mr Williams, as certain preliminaries will have to be gone through which will not affect the result. The Mayor The best way to get on with the matter will be for some one to second Mr Williams' motion. Mr Samuel Thomas thought it would be a desirable thing to accomplish. Possibly they lived in glass houses themselves, but the heaps of mud allowed to accumulate and remain on the Now Bridge was really dreadful. (Hear, hear.) Mr John James agreed with Mr Samuel Thomas and wished to avoid if possible litigation, which meant a lot of fees and expenses. He thought they had better not be too hasty in making the applica- tion. They would be in time up to the 31st of December, they would have another month. Mr W. Williams You are assuming there will be preliminary expenses. Mr J. James: A notice would have to be put in the newspapers of their intention to apply for a pro- visional order—an inspector would hold an enquiry- .and there may be opponents in the case and if that provisional order was appealed against they would have to fight it out just as they do Railway Bills. They had better see the coast clear before going on with it. (Hear, hear.) Ald. Thomas Just my views. I don't think we should go into the matter to-night. j Mr W. Williams Which of you are going to launch your opinion against that of Mr Chambers ? Mr J. James The late Town Clerk also obtained an opinion which was unfavourable. Mr W. Williams I don't press it. Mr S. Thomas then moved that a committee con- sisting of the Mayor, ex-Mayor, Alderman Davies, Alderman Thomas, Mr John James, and Mi Richard Williams should form a committee to look into he matter and report thereon to the Council. Ald. Thomas said that between Alderman Davies and Mr R. Williams they would have legal minds to direct them. Mr R. Williams did not know what further infor- mation they could get on the matter-in any case the L1400 would not melt, it would be as available in a months time as it is now. He thought it was simply a question of opinion. In 1876 a charge was pre- ferred against a client of his for assaulting the toll collector at the New Bridge, on one of the special days selected for demanding toll by. the Commis- sioners, and he contended then that the collector had no right to be there. (Laughter.) The Borough Bench however thought differently and decided against his client. (Laughter.) The Clerk: You had better accept a Brief for the Urban Authority. Mr Ormond Is it understood then that the ques- tion as to the L2,000 also stand over until this day fortnight. Mr R. Williams: If the Bridge Commissioners were properly approached they may hand the money over, but he had no authority for saying so. After some further discussion Mr Ormond seconded Mr Samuel Thomas' motion, and the matter was deferred till next meeting. ELECTRIC LIGHTING. Mr John James understood that notices had been given by some companies of their intention to apply to the Board of Trade for powers to enable them to supply this town with electric lighting. If they succeeded in getting a Provisional order, that would enable them to secure the privilege for 21 years. Now this town had spent a lot of money on their gas works He hoped the gas would not be superseded by electric light, but there was no knowing what might turn up, the latter iright come into general use—and it would be most objectionable to be held by the nose by those companies. The President of the Board of Trade was in favor of public bodies, and he would move so as to checkmate those compani3s, that the Council apply to the Board of Trade to con- fer on the Council the powers of supplying electric light if they thought necessary. This was seconded by Mr Ormond and carried. The Town Clerk said it was necessary to call a special meeting at a month's notice in order to con- sider the question in aceordance with the provisions of the act. This was decided to be done. XoISANOES. A long piscuasiu:i ensued as to a complaint by Sergt. Hicks as to the ixutence of privies iu close proximity tv), i house in St. Thomas Greon, duritg whicli it transpired that the house had been erected subsequently to ilic privies, and on the advicc of the Town Clerk instructions were given to the Surveyor to see if there were any structural defects in the privies, :tnd if so, they would have to be removed br the landlord. It was nug?MtGc!. that earth closets should be substituted for the existing privies, and that the landlord should be noticed ticcordin?y. -1 I -giv. GAS BONDb. I A rate of 41 in the 5 was ordered to be lvied on the Gas area, for the purpose of paying .hc instal- ruenh (itic to the sinking fund for paying off the £ 10,Or.O Gas Bonds. I SANITARY INSI'ECXOll. j apt. A\ .iajftu was reappointed a;«iitwj iiiopector after much discussion. Several of the members sug- gesting that some other active person should be ap- pointed TO the office, as the Superintendent had eon- j fessed that the "duties were too numerous for him, and auxiliary assistance had to be obtained. MEDICAL OFFICE OF HEALTH. Mr John James moved, and Mr Ormond seconded that the clerk should apply to the Local Government Board for a return of f,15 a moiety of the Medical Officers salary from the Government Grant, which led to an annimated discussion as to whether it would have the effect of their losing their control over their officer, and vest it rather in the Local Government Board. The Clerk said he did not see that it would in the least interfere with the control of the Council, or with the due discharge of the duties of the Medical Officer. Ald. Thomas moved an amendment, that applica- tion be not made for the return, which was seconded by Mr William Williams, and on being put to the meeting, only those two gentlemen voted for it. Mr Alderman Thomas I am glad we are in the same boat at last Mr Williams. (Loud laughter.) All the other members voted for Mr James's motion which was declared oarried. The meeting was adjourned to the 24th of Novem- ber, at 7 p.m.

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