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Cardiganshire County Council. tn SMALL HOLDINGS EXPENSES. ABERAYRON LIGHT RAIL WA Y A FURTHER ADVANCE VOTED THE SHEEP DIPPING INQUIRY. I The quarterly meeting; of tLe Cardiganshire County Council was on Thursday, August 11th, at the Town ELiif, Aberayron wnen there were present (Vmcillor R. S. Rowland, Llanddewi fit (chairman), pre- siding; Aldermen Colonel J. R. Howell, Pantgwyn; lu v. Daniel Evans, HTwen; J. I ,T. Morgan Mae-newydd; C. M. IV'illianis, j Aberystwyth; W. J. Lio.vd, Naafccwnlle; M. L. Vaughan Davies, ü1.P., Tanybwich; Major Price Len e- Tyglyn Aercn; E. J. Davies, New Quay; E J. Price, Llansant-' ÆreaJ; Evan Duties, Gdfachronw; Evan Richards, Penuwchfawr, Council- tors J. C. Harford, Falcon-dale; John Jones, JPelinfach John Jones, Cilcennin Jvsiah Jones. Llaudyssul; Rsv. W. Griffiths. Llan- Ihvchaiarn; J. W. Davies, L3;Lhir; Thomas Jones, Llangranog; Evan Williams, Llaa- -1 dugwydd; Lodwick Jones, Nantcwnlie; Morgan Evans, Gakford; Wiiiiara Evan-, Cnwch. Coch; E, J. Evans, ulaniiar; Capt. T. Doughton, D. C SoberPeter Jones, and G. Fossett n.¿jbcrt" Ab ystwyth; J. H Davies, Llangeitno; D; J. Williams, Tre- garon; Thomas Morgan, Yshytty; J. M. Howell and E. Lima Jones, Aberayron; Sir Edward Pryse, Go^erddan Dr. John Jame* taliesin D. Morgan James, Llanrhystyd W. Morris, Borth; Dc. Jenkyn Lewis, LI an- on; Edward Jones, Cwmi-heidol; David Davies, Troedyraur; T. R. Mor- gan, Lledrod; James Stephens, Liangoed- more; Rev. John Williams and O. Beynon Evans, Cardigan; B. Davies-Evans, LLan- »granog; with Mr. Era Evnns (clerk); Mr J. D. Perrott ( treasurer); Mr Edward Wil- liams (chief constable); and Kessrs. D. Dav- ies and T E. Owen (county surveyors). REPRESENTATIVES. The appointment of four representatives on the Court of Governors of the University College, Aberystwyth, .for three years, was the first business. The retiring representa- tives were the Rev. Thomas Levi, Aberyst- wyth, and Councillors J. M. Howell and D. J. Williams. It was stated that Mr Levi and Mr Howell had not attended a single meeting of the governors during the past three years. Mr. Howell had, however, at- tended several meetings of the College Council, of whid1 he was a member. The late Councillor Thos. Evans was also a repre- sentative.—On the motion r-f the Rev. W. Griffiths, seconded by Mr. Josiah Jones, the Rev. Daniel Evans was appointed in place of the late Mr Thos. Evans.—The re-appoint- ment of the other thre^'representatives was proposed.—'Alderman W. J. Lloyd: I shall be surprised if they again accept office.— Mr. John Jones, Cilcennin, proposed the appointment of Capt Doughton, Mr. Mor- gan Evans, an Mr. John Jones, Cwmere.— It was stated that Mr. Morgan Evans and Capt. Doughton were already members of the Bon rd.—Eventually, it was agreed to give the three retiring members another chance, and they were re-elected. It was decided to recommend the names of Ir. O. Bevnon Era nr., Mr. G. F. Roberts and Mr E J Davies to the Army Council for re-election as representatives of the Council on the Association for the county under the Territorial and Reserve Fore* Act, 1907. to hold office for three years. CORRESPONDENCE. It was agreed :o .support the petition of the Carnarvon Town, Oounei to his Majesty the King praying that the claims of "Wales I be recognised by representation in the Royal Standard and Arms of tho United Kingdom. A communication from the General Assembly of the Calvinistie Methodist Con- nexion suggestuie more rigid and faithful enforcement of the present Licensing Laws was referred to the Police Committee. An application ty the Aberayron Rural District Council for a contribution toward the re-building of Grilfachre-Ja Bridge, on the district road betw?Bii Llwyndafyd-d and Aberayron, referred to the Southern Main Roads Committee. EXPRESS TRAINS. In reply to the application of the Council that the express train from Paddingtor.. to Aberystwyth should stop at Tregaron, the G.W.R. Company wrote tlmt it would be a great inconvenience if t' at was done, but they had already made arrangements that the train would stop there on market ond fair days.—-Mr. D. J. Williams moved that the Company he also asked to stop the train at Tregaron on County Council days.—Capt. Doughton seconded, and this was agreed to. TRECEFEL BRIDGE. The Local Government Board having agreed to extend the period for the repay- ment of the loan in respect of Trecefel bridge from 1" to 3D years, application was made for a further extension. The Board, in reply, said they were advised that the sub-soil under the structure was bad, that the fo:nidations weve shallow, and that the walls were built with s. small margin of safety, and had no weep holes. In these circumstances it appeared to the Board that twenty years wns the longest term they could properly allow for the repayment of the loan. fr. Vaughan Davies said he had waited on the officials of the Board in London, and had done bet to get the time extended, but w ithout success. It was decided to send the letter to the Northern Main Roads Committee for con- sideration. COUNTY MEDICAL OFFICER. A letter was read from the Local Govern- ment Board enclosing a general order defin- ing the duties of medical officers of health for counties. It is now incumbent upon. the Coun:y Counri1 under the provisions of the Housing and Town Planning Act to appoint such an officer, find the Clerk asked that a small committee be appointed to fix the salaries and decide matters. Mr. D. C. Robert, suggested that the matter be considered in conjunction witfc the County Education Committee who also had to appoint a county medical inspector in connection with the work of the medical P inspection of school children. The matter was referred to the Public Health Committee, that committee net to meet until the finance committee of the Edu- cation Committee had first discussed the question. In reply to Mr. Morgan Evans, the Clerk said the now officer would have to devote the whole of time to the duties. VALE OF AERON PATHS. A letter was road from Messrs. T. Jones, Castle and T. tivans, Brynteg, Felin- fach, drawing attention to the fact that the engineer of the Lampeter-Aberayron Rail- way had not provided proper facilities for crossing the line at those points where public footpaths had interfered with. The attention of the engineer and the Parish Council had been drawn to the matter but wi:hout result, and the County Council was asked to take the matter up. Mr. J. O. Harforo -said the directors had taken tremendous trouble to get a path on the Brynog land deviated in accordance with the wishes of the Parish Council. The line was no-L yet completed, and he had no doubt all the footpaths would be attended to in due time. Mr. J. M. Howell said he believed the letter referred to the pJth=9 behind Clrillere Farm leading to Tyngwndwn Chapel. Mr. John Jones, Cwmere, said the people found it difficult to get over tho railway embankment, which was about ten feet high at the The Engineer (Mr. Yockney), who was present, admitted that the footpaths at present w°re not in a proper state, but this was due to the permanent way not yet hav- ing been finished. Alderman C. M. Williams proposed that a copy of the communication he sent to the Rural District Council and to the contractors, with a refjve.it that tbey should see that the public footpaths were preserved. Rev. W. Griffiths seconded, and this was agreed to. ALDERMAN LLOYD IGNORED. The Clerk read a letter, addressed to the Chairman, from Alderman W. J, Lloyd, which was as follows:—"I beg leave to ask; you as chairman of the Council for an ex- planatiou why I am not summoned to attend meetings of the Small Holdings Committee for the Tregaron district, in which district I presume I am entitled to sit. I have not to a tend on'y once. t The Chairman: I refer that to the chair- man of the Small Holdings Committee. Y. (Laughter s. APPOINTMENT OF CLERK. The Council was asked., by the Anglesey v ounty Council to support a resolution to the eifect that in view of the growing im- portance or th<: administrative work of the County Council efficiency demanded that the Local Government Act. 1888, should be amended, so that the appoint men. of clerk should be solely in the hands of the County Council. The Clerk having explained that the Couia,cl-, passed a similar resolution some years ago, h- was directed to replv to that etf e, t. ABERAYRON BRIDGE. The Southern Main Roads Committee re- commended that the cost of the proposed new bridge at Aberayron be increased by €110 to £ 1.410 to meet rlie requirements of the Local Government. Board, and that the tender of a firm of ferro-concrete contractors to do the work at that price be accepted. Alderman W. J. Lloyd said he could not understand why so much difference was made between this bridge and the Pont Llanio bridge. It had a humpy back—(laughter)— and looked a bit ugly, but if both ends were filled in it could come more straight. If they only sent the sub-committee which visited Pont Llanio to Aberayron he was certain they would save hundreds of pounds. (Laugh ter). But- they must not send Mr. Peter Jones or he might want a new bridge there. (Renewed laughter). He moved as an amendment that the original estimate be adhered to. There was no seconder to the amendment, and the committee's recommendation was then unanimously agreed to, Alderman Lloyd creating great laughter by being one of the first to vote for it. It was agreed to vote £ 50 toward the re- pair of Silian bridge, Mr. J. C. Harford statiing the committee could not find that the Railway Company was liable for the damage done. LAMPETER—LLANDDEWI ROAD. Colonel J. R. Howell submited the report of the Southern Main Roads Committee, and moved the adoption of a recommendation that the application of the Lampeter Rural District Council to take over and maintain as a main road the road leading from Lam- peter to Llanddewi Brefi be entertained, and that the Surveyor be instructed to inspect the road and take such other steps as might be necessary to give effect to the application. Alderman C. M. Williams moved as an amendment that the matter be again re- ferred back, and said on looking up the re- turns he found that the Lampeter Union received already nearly EDO more than its quota for the maintenance of main roads. On their* agenda thaij day they had a report with reference to the application of the Borough of Lampeter, and the Finance Com- mittee had unanimously agreed that a special committee be appointed, representative of each Union, 'do go into the books of the various urban authorities, and he suggested that the same committee should also con- sider the question of main roads in the different Unions. It was all very well for new members to make demands for addi- tional main road mileage immediately they came on the Council, but they had as a Council to bear the question of expenditure in mind. When the County Council started the main roads cost only P-2,800 a year to maintain. Last year the cost was about £ 9,000. He had no objection tto the appli- cation being granted provided all the Unions were put on an equality, but Lampeter had now far more than its proper quota. He moved as an amendment that the applica- I tion be referred to the special committee. Mr. Wm. Owen seconded. Mr. Josiah Jones said it was not a matter of equity, but of supplying the needs of the public. He thought they ought to support the application, and not confine themselves entirely to the word quota. Mr. Williams, Llandugwydd, supported the amendment, on the ground that the different Unions should be treated alike. Air. J. W. Davies said the application had been before the Council many years. The roads in the Lampeter Unions were the cheapest to maintain in the county. They only got surprise visits from the steam roller, and when they did get it, it was off again in a day or two. This road was also used by the Council in carting stone from the Llanddewi quarry. Mr. J. H. Davies said that with motor and other traffic it was quite clear that they oughi to pay more attention to the main arteries through the county, and he had great pleasure in supporting the recom- il mendation. Mr. J. M. Howell asked Alderman Wil- liams to withdraw his amendment on the ground that the recommendation did not commit the Council to any expenditure. Alderman "Williams replied that it did, and quoted from a speech made by Mr. Peter Jones in 1899 when the present arrange- ment was adopted. Mr. Jones then said that by carrying the arrangement into effect the Council would be able to see that one parish did not obtain an advantage over p ar, i another. On a division the amendment was carried by 22 votes to 13. SOUTHERN MAIN ROADS. Arising out of a minute in the Southern Main Roads Committee's report dealing with a complaint by Mr. R. A. Hoare of the stale of the road between Neuadd Cross and Penrhiw, Mr. J. H. Davies said he had had occasion' to go down to the lower end of the county lately, and he found the roads there in a far worse condition than the roads in the norchern division. He suggested that a small committee be appointed to inspect the roads with the Surveyor. Colonel Howell said he did not'see the use of appointing a committee. Every inch of the roads was known to some member or other already. Sir Edward Pryse said the road from Llan- arth to Synod Inn was very bad. Mr. Josiah Jones thought a committee Mr. Josiah Jones thought a committee ought to be appointed. Since the recent flood, Pwllybryn Hill w a-i in a shocking state. It was worse than any parish road. By saying this he did not wish to reflect upon the Surveyor. Major Price Lewes said it was a matter of expense altogether, and they must be prepared to face it. The two ends of the j county had been compared, but he did not think it was fair to do so, because in the northern part thev had a splendid rock foundation for most of their roads. In the south, where the soil was deeper, it was not so easy to maintain a road. The Surveyor pointed out that the road on which the motor 'bus service ran was only
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locentiy talien over by the Council. Before that it was merely a track, without any foundation. They had put thousands of tons or stone on it and a lot more were required before it would get a good foundation. Rev. Daniel Evans: Very soon we shall have someone to prosecute the Council, and then something will be do^se. The Rev. John Williams 1 do not see the objec: of appointing a small committee. Do you expect the committee to go over all the roads in the southern division ? Mr. J. H. Davies: Yes, in a motor car if necessary. Rev. J Williams: I don't think you would see much of the road trom a motor car. Mr. Josiah Jones: You would soon feel it. The Rev. John Williams said he considered the roads were in a far better condition now than they had ever been. On the Cardigan- Newcastle Emlyn road there- was only one section.. near Glanarberth, which was bad. The roads were improving and they had given flhe Surveyor certain instructions, and they should leave the matter in his hands. If these instructions were not carried out then they could take action. The Rev. W. Griffiths supported the ap- pointmer,ot of a commiutee.. which could direct the Surveyor as to the portions of road to be taken in hand first. Sir Edward Pryse said they would have to spend more money on the roads than they did at the present Uime. Mr. C. M. Williams moved as an amend- ment that the Surveyor report to the Southern Main Roads Committee as to which roads should be taken in hand first. Sir Edward Pryse seconded. Dr. Jenkyn Lewis said he thought the Surveyor knew better than any man the con- dition of the roads. He knew that they were bad. The difficulty was to convince the Surveyor that :hey were- bad. (Laughter). And ihe only course out of this impasse seemed to him to be to superannuate the Surveyor. Major Price Lewes proposed that they in- struct the Surveyor to put the roads in a proper state of repair. Dr. Lewis: That instruetSon is a permanent instruction. After further discussion, it was agreed that the matter be left to the Southern Main Roads Committee. ONLY ONE TENDER. The Sout4iern Main Roads Committee having reported that only one tender, which was far above the estimate, had been re- ceived for building Arberth Bridge, it was decided on the motion of Mr. Beynon Evans, seconded by Mr. Evan Williams, to invite tenders through the medium of the press. DOVEY BRIDGE. Mr. T. Morgan submitted the report of the Northern Main Roads Committee, which recommended the Council to join in the pro- posed application to the Commissioners of the Development Fund with the County Councils of Merioneth and Montgomery tic) secure a grant for the purpose of. construct- ing a bridge, which with the road leading to it is estimated to cost £ 5,000, over the river Dovey near Llugwy. The recommendation was adopted. ASYLUM DISPUTE. The following minute of a special meeting of the Finance Committee held the 30th June was submitted by Mr. D. C. Roberts: —The Clerk read a communication from the Under Secretary of State for the Home De- partment suggesting Khat a Conference should take place at the Home Office of re- presentatives of the County Councils of Car- digan, Carmarthen, and Pembroke, to dis- cuss the matters in difference between the Councils with regard to the Joint Lunatic Asylum at Carmarthen. It was resolved to appoint Aldermen Vaughan Davies, M.P., C. M. Williams, and Rev John Williams, and Councillors Rev William Griffiths, and Rev T. A. Thomas to attend the proposed Confer- ence on behalf of this County; also that Messrs. Baker and Co., Parliamentary soli- citors, employed on behalf of the Councils of Cardiganshire and Pembrokeshire, be asked to attend the conference. It was also re- solved that the expenses of the representa- tives attending the conference should be paid out of th County Fund. The foregoing report was unanimously adopted by the Council. SMALL HOLDINGS EXPENSES. The Finance Committee reported that the Treasurer had produced certain accounts for travelling expenses, stationery, etc., by Mr. Tom Parry, the county land agent, and it was resolved to recommend the payment of same provided the Board of Agriculture ap- proved of the accounts with a view to repay- ment of the same to the Council, and the Clerk was directed to forward copies of the accounts to the Board of Agriculture. Major Price Lewes asked if these expenses were paid by the Government. The Clerk said the Board of Agriculture would pay a certain part' of them. He had submitted the accounts to the Board, who had replied stating that they appeared to be such as the Board would repay under section 21 of the Act, but no definitle assurance could be given in the absence of the necessary vouchers. The Board added that a propor- tion of the land agent's salary and of ex- penses such as postages should be charged to the management, and whatever was charged to management would not be repaid by the Board. The Chairman: That will be paid by the tenants. The Clerk stated that the amount of Mr Parry's bill was £ 56 oa. 7d., and it was for the Council to decide whether they would' pay Mr Parry this amount and run the risk or pay him a certain sum on account. The Chairman: Can we not have these things at the Small Holdings Committee. I have a few questions to ask. The Chairman went on to refer to an item of zC50, com- pensation to outgoing tenant of Pengarreg Farm. He thought that was before the House of Commons some time ago, and that it had not passed the House of Lords yet. (Laughter.) The Clerk said that was part of the ar- rangement when taking over Pencarreg Farm. Major Price Lewes: Whose pocket does that come out of ? The Clerk: That was taken into considera- tion in fixing the rent, and it will come back from the tenants of the County Coun- cil. The Council will pay it in the first, instance. There is a considerable surplus over the rent paid to Mr. Gwynne, and out of that surplus the Council will pay this L50 and other expenses connected with the management of small holdings. In repjv to Alderman 0. M. Williams, the Clerk said he wrote, as instructed to the Board of Agriculture with regard to Mr. Parry's former account, and they said that in the main it appeared to be all right, but when the Treasurer applied for repayment they rttised all sorts of questions with regard to some portion of the account, and they re- quired explanations with regard to a num- ber of items. He had sent copies of the communication to Mr. Parry, and he was considering them. As yet they had not had a penny back from the Board. Alderman C. M. Williams: But there is no doubt we will get it. The Clerk: There is no doubt but that we will get the bulk of it back. Mr Morgan James asked about a sum of £ 38 10s. 6d. to Mr Jenkin Lloyd for valua- tion. The Clerk said the Board of Agriculture would repay the whole of Khat. On the proposition of Mr. Peter Jones, it was decided to pay Mr. Parry £ 50 on ac- count. The Finance Committee also made the fol- lowing recommendations dealing with the ad- ministration of the Small Holdings Act:- (1.) That henceforward Mr Tom Parry's ac- count; after approval by the District Com- mittees be submitted to the sub-committee appointed to examine the treasurer's ac- counts. (2.) That a special Small Holdings account be opened at the National Pro- vincial Bank, Ltfd., Aberystwyth, and that all sums received by Mr. Parry in connection with Small Holdings be paid forthwith into the Small Holdings Account at the Bank. (3.) That Mr. Parry be requested to present his account up to the 30th September at the next meeting of the Committee, and that henceforward his accounts be sent in quarterly, the same being first submitted for approval to the District Committees. (4.) That the Small Holdings Committee be re- commended to fix dates for the collection of Lady-day and Michaelmas rents. (5.) That the premium on the insurance of Pengarreg Farm be paid, and that the Treasurer be requested to make enquiries from various in- surance companies as to their terms for in- surance of buildings on Small Holdings. (6.) That the charges of Mr. Jenkin Lloyd, Glan- brenig, Tregaron, in connection with Cwm- cvnon arbitration be paid. (7.) That.^he rent of Dolohenog for the half-vear due .1 March hl be ;1jd.. v, l'1 t"i V; said he felt they had not got hold of the right way of dealing with the question of Small Holdings. It seemed to him strange that the Finance Committee of the County Council should deal with matters that pertained to the Small Holdings Committee, and he felt they were sure to get into difficulties. He thought it would be well to consider carefully in what way the Small Holdings Committee should be made entirely responsible for the work of Small Holdings'. « On the proposition of Mr. Roberts, sec- onded by Alderman C. M. Williams, it was decided to authorise the Small Holdings Committee to adopt the foregoing recom- mendations if they thought proper. LAMPETER, BOROUGH MAIN ROADS. The sub-committee appointed to meet the Mayor and Councillors of tlva Borough of Lampeter with reference to the application of the Lampetier Town Council for an in- creased contribution towards the mainten- ance of the main roads in that borough re- ported as follows:—After hearing the state, ment of the Town Clerk, and thoroughly in- vestigating the. causes of the increased ex- penditure incurred by the Town Council of Lampeter, we. the undersigned, recommend that the application of the Lampeter Town Council for an increased grant in respect of the main roads be granted, and that the con- tribution be increased from jEHO to JE140 per annum." The Finance Committee, however, recom- mended the Council to appoint a special committee to consider the whole question of the contributions made to the different bor- ough authorities for main road maintenance. On the motion of Mr D. C. Roberts this recommendation was adopted, and the fol- lowing were appointed a committee:—Aber- ystwyth. Messrs. Robert Ellis, C. M. Wil- liams, and J. T. Morgan: Aberayron, E J. Davies. and Major Price Lewes; Cardigan, Rev. John Williams, and Mr. O. Beynon Evans: Lampeter, Mr J. C. Harford: Tre- garon, Messrs. R. S. Rowland and D J Wil- liams Newcastle Emlyn, Messrs Josiah Jones and David Davies. DEVELOPMENT GRANT CONFERENCE. Sir Edward Pryse submitted a report on the I conference at Llandrindod Wells on the question of the Development Grant. The conference recommended that funds be pro- vided by the Development Commissioners to improve the live stock in Wales and that funds be given towards agricultural educa- tion and forestry. Also that the fund be administered by a central board of represen- tative of each County Council, and that the county distribution of the grant be made by a committee appointed by each County Coun- cil. Sir Edward moved that the matter be referred to the Finance Committee for further consideration. Mr. Vaughan Davies spoke in support of the recommendations of the conference, and said these recommendations were in no way antagonistic to the scheme which was put forward at the last meeting of the County Education Committee. There was no reason why both should not be amalgamatied and acted upon for the benefit of agriculture. Mr. John Jones: Are we to understand that both schemes are to be placed before the Commissioners separately? The Clerk: That is a matter for the com- mittee to decide. The duty of the Council will be to prepare schemes, and join with other Welsh counties in presenting them to 0 the Development Commissioners. 1 lajor Price Lewes considered there should be a joint committee to work both schemes. They did not want, the College to grab more than it ought to get. (Laughter.) It was then agreed that the matter be referred to the Finance Committee for full consideration. THE SHEEP DIPPING INQUIRY. The Public Health Committee presented a report upon the recent inquiry held by it with regard to certain charges made by the Board of Agriculture against the police in the matter of the administration of the Sheep Dipping Orders. A full report of the inquiry was given in a recent issue of the Welsh Gazette." The committee reported that having heard the statements of the Board's inspectors and those of the Chief Constable and his officers they were satisfied that the police officers had done their duty in every way, and that there was absolutely no ground for the charges made against them. It was also resolved that the Board of Agriculture be strongly urged to appoint inspectors in Wales who were able to speak the Welsh language. At the suggestion of the Clerk it was un- animously agreed to send a copy of the committee's recommeudattion with regard to -Welsil-s.peakiilg inspectors to each of the Welsh members of Parliament. Mr D. C. Roberts said he hoped they had all read the report of the inquiry, and that they had considered carefully the position taken up by the Board of Agriculture on that occasion. He did not think that posi- tion was a credit either to the Board or to their inspectors. He very heartily supported the appointment of Welsh-speaking inspect- ors. It seemed to him they were absolutely necessary in dealing with these matters. Mr E. J. Davies suggested the Council should pass a vote of thanks to the members of the Public Health Committee who attend- ed the inquiry, and for the ability they dis- played. The Chairman: Public duty. Mr. John Jones. Cwmere: It was quite a pleasure to be there. (Laughter.) PRINTING. The Printing and Advertising Committee recommended the acceptance of a tender for all the Council's printing and for binding the volumes of statutes, and also that the tender be continued for the period of three years. Captain Doughton objected to the tender being continued for three years, pointing out that when tenders were invited it was under- stood they were to be for one year as usual, and it would tams be unfair to other printers to continue the tender for three years now. The Council agreed that che tender be only continued for one year. MILITIA BARRACKS. Captain Doughton submitted the report of a committee appointed to deal with the Militia Barracks at Aberystwyth. The com- mittee recommended the Council to accept immediate possession of the building and the sum of £ 200 17s. 6d. in discharge of all claims in respect of repairs of the buildings, and that the committee be authorised to negotiate with the Aberystwyth Town Coun- cil for letting the premises to that Council. The recommendation was unanimously adopted. TREGARON SCHOOL SITE. The Clerk explained that! last year the Council decided, at tha request of the Edu- cation Committee, to exercise their com- pulsory powers to purchase from the Sunny Hill Estate authorities a school site at Tre- garon. Notices were served, but since then he had been in treaty with the solicitors for the trustees, who now offered another site. That site had been approved by the Educa- tion Committee, and had been valued at CI-50. It would be a great) convenience if the Council would authorise the Education Committee to purchase this site for £ 150. Mr T. Morgan asked what was the area of the site. It was a stiff price if only an acre of land was given. On the proposition of Mr. D. C. Roberts, it was agreed to authorise the Education Committee to purchase the site at the figure named ABERAYRON LIGHT RAILWAY. A FURTHER ADVANCE VOTED. l Mr J. C. Harford had given notice that he would call attention to the financial posi- I tion of the Lampeter, Aberayron. and New Quay Light Railway Company, and move a resolution that the Council make a further advance to the Company, the same to be secured by mortgage of the Council's pro- perty. Mr Harford explained tihat ori- ginally the County Council voted zC20,000 and the Treasury £ 20,000, leaving £ 20,000 to be found by oither authorities. The money was advanced on a guarantee that £ 8,250 would be found by certain gentlemen whose names were not given. The whole of that amount had been paid into the bank, each one of those kept his word. They had found great difficulty in getting money from the public, but a certain number of
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men interested in the county had come to the fronlt and found the required money to enable them to get the Treasury grant. Railways, however, like other public works, required very more money than was first considered necessary. ney estimated trtie cost at JESOyOOO but the Board of Trade told them at the time that they had put it too low, and said the probability was that when carried out the line would coot £90,000 and. tihat they should provide that amount of capital. Now they could tell pretty accu- rately what the cost would be, and the Treasury accepted their figure of as the total cost or the railway. They had gone to all the various authorities in Lon- don, and except from the Treasury they had had the greatest possible help, and congra- tulations upon the work that had been done. As to the Treasury, he must pay a tribute to their representative, Mr Vaughan Davies, M.P., who had helped him and the directors considerably in their dealings with the vari- ous departments in London. (Hear, hear.) They received great help from the Board of Agriculture, which body at once sent down a commissioner, who reported most favour- ably upon the line, and who expressed the opinion that it would be for the benefit of agriculture. That was the first condition that had to be satisfied before they could obtain iv grant; but they were met 'by this one great difficulty, that the Treasury never gave a liree grant unless a railway was both constructed and worked by an existing rail- way company. They had hoped, with the assistance the Great Western Railway Com- pany were giving in the construction of the railway to have got over this difficulty, and even the Board of Agriculture thought there was a possibility that this technicality could have been overcome, in which case they could have got a large free grant. Under The De- velopment Act his was exactly the kind of railway which it was proposed to assist, but he was sorry to say that it was a Welsh member, Mr. Keir Hardie, who introduced an amendment that no free grant be made to any railway which was worked for profit, and this railway came under that definition. Therefore, the one thing that the present Chancellor of the Exchequer tried his very utmost to secure and said in Parliament he was anxious to do was defeated by a Welsh member, and they in Cardiganshire had to suffer. Mr. Josiah Jones: Mr. Keir Hardie is no Welshman, sir. Mr. Harford went on to say that the Treasury were now prepared to take the figure of £&13,000, and to advance an addi- tional £2,000, making £22.000 in all, if the County Council would do likewise. He had informally consulted the Finance Committee on the matter, and the members were unani- mous in advising him to bring it before the County Council, and practically everyone present promised to support him. The only question was put by Mr. Robert Ellis, who said he would second the proposition for an increased grant if they could induce the local authorities to take the same proportion of the £2,000 as they did of the £20,000. It was thought he would have a sironger case if he went to the local authorities first and asked whether they would support him. He found now that the four local authorities— the Town Council and the Rural District Council of Lampeter and the Urban District Council and the Rural District Council of Aberayron—had practically unanimously passed a resolution voting the required sum, namely, £500 between them, out of the £2,000 which he asked for that day. He considered this was a very strong point in their favour. The railway also was now nearly finished. The permanent rails were within half-a-mile of Aberayron. The Great Western Railway Company had completed the junction, the signal boxes were up, and he believed that in ten days half the line, to Ys :rad, would be completed. The bottom ballast was completed for 8t out of the twelve miles and the top ballast for five out of the first six miles, so that tfiere were only about 2! miles to be laid with bottom ballast and seven to 7t with top ballast. The con- tractor also stated that the line right to Aberayron would be finished in two months' time. There seemed to be very little difficulty in the way of completing it, and he hoped the County Council would help them to do so. He did not wish to put any very great stress on his own personal interest in the matter, but he was bound to say that he would be able to take very little part in public life in the future if they did not help him, be- cause if this railway was knocked- in the head he was afraid he was knocked in the head, too. (Laughter). He did not say that that was any matter for the County Council, there were plenty of other people to take his place. Still, if they knocked him in the head and put him on one side altogether, there were many others who had no interest whatever in the county, who had come for- ward and paid money in the belief that it) was good for the county. The Treasury also had advanced money on that understanding. They could not get people outside the county to take that interest* in light railways which he would wish them to take, and, therefore. they had to ask the County Council to see this matter through and help them to com- plete the line. If the Council voted the money and the Treasury stuck to their word he was quite sure the line would be com- pleted in two months' time. He asked them to think of the matter in the face of the ex- penditure on main roads. At the present time each of the main roads used by the motor busses cost! at least £1,000 a year extra for maintenance, or a total of £3,000 a year extra. At the present time the busses ran over 13 miles of main road from Lampeter to Aberayron and 17 miles from Newcastle Emlyn to New Quay. By having this railway they would do away with this and need only run the busses over the seven miles from New Quay to Aberayron. The expense thus saved in not running over 23 miles of main road would very soon repay the Council more than they were now askfd to vote, and would provide the public with a much better service. He had not asked anyone tb second his proposition, but he hoped Mr D. C. Roberts would do so. He noticed Mr. C M Williams was looking at a lot of papers, but he did not think he was going to oppose him. Mr Williams was sitting next to him at the Finance Com- mittee, and promised to support him. Mr. C. M. Williams said he was not look- ing at papers connected with the railway. Mr. D. C. Roberts said he had very great pleasure in seconding the proposal made by Mr. Harford. The only point he felt at the Finance Committee was that it would be reasonable that all who were interested should also bear their share in providing the extra amount required By that day Mr. Harford was able to inform them that every- one of those Councils which had advanced part of the sum required were prepared to make in proportion to the amount they ad- vanced before a further advance. The Treasury had also agreed to increase their grant. In face of that it seemed to him only reasonable that they as a County Council should also do their share. He was pleased to hear Mr. Hariord say that the railway was going to be worked for profit, but whether the County Council got a penny profit it seemed to him that as a county they would benefit immensely by the opening out of the county, and on these grounds he felt it was the duty of the County Council to support schemes of this kind. He would like to see a railway from Aberystwyth to Cardigan all along the coast. (Hear, hear). Alderman W. J. Lloyd asked if there was to be a station at Penwern for passengers and goods. Mr. Harford replied there would be a station for passengers, but the Board of would not allow a siding there because of the gradient'. There would, therefore, be a bigger station at Ystrad, and he be- lieved that by going the half-a-mile extra they would, by having a level road, be able to put another 10 cwts. on their carts. Colonel Howell supported the proposiltion on behalf of the lower end of the county. They had been asked before now, he said, what on earth had this railway to do with Cardigan. But they were of opinion down there that anything for the good of a part of tftie county was for the good of the whole county. Mr. Vaughan Davies, M.P., also supported the proposition, and said it was only fair and right that the county should know of the immense trouble Mr. Harford had taken in this matter. He could speak from ex- perience, and for the last tfhree or four months he had been with him waiting upon the different Government departments in London, and anyone who knew those bodies knew that to get anything ou:, of, them was I' very much like trying to get blood out of a stone. But Mr. Harford. by his persistence, had got the railway within haIf-Ht-mile of Aberayron, and he was quite sure all the members of the Council would new vote the additional grant required in order to finish the line. They had heard of a railway to Aberayron for the last thirty years, and the proposal was always raised at election times. Now that cry would cease. (Laugh- tor). None of them wished to knock Mr. Mas-ford on the bead after Irs crvices to the r county tor it was no doubt due tio the trouble hL iff .that,tills g^t question had tbb?i vr°UgMfc \° lssue" He did not think Mi. Harford did himself justice in ex- plaining why the additional £8,000 was re- quired. Great pressure had been put on the promoters by the Great Western Railway Company to put down heavier rails. That meant considerable extra expense, and these rails were put down in order that the Com- pany would be able to run their heavy trains and engines over the line with excursionists from South 'Wales. Better stations had also to he erected to comply with the require- ments of the Great Western Company, who also irefused to accept the ballast from the cuttings, and insisted on better ballast, Ihereiore, this extra expense was not due to any neglect, but had been forced on the oirectors by the Great Western Company, who wre going to work the line. Mi' J. H. Davies asked on what condi- tions was the money lent and who found the interest on it. Mr.. J. C. Harford said one quarter of the grant would be in ordinary stock and three- iourths in four per cent debentures. The County Council had also very generouslv agreed: that no interest be payable until 1911. Mr. John Jones, Cilcennin, supported the motion, and on behalf of the people living in the locality through which the railway ran, congratulated Mr. Harford upon his skill in pilocing the scheme to a successful issue. They had heard from Mr. Harford that it was intended to have the chief station at Ystrad. He believed, when the railway was opened, the promoters would find that they had made a mistake in that. They would find in the course of time, that the chief station ought to be at Neuadd Ddu, and he hoped the Company had provided facilities to. enlarge the station there. Mr Harford said at all the halts there was sufficient land to enlarge the stations, if necessary, to the same size as that at Ystrad. Mr. John Jones Cwmere: There will be no sidings at Penwern or Cilie? Mr. Harford: At Cilie there will be. Mr. Jones said it was originally understood that there were to be sidings at Penwern for coal, lime, and mÜnures, and for the loading of cattle. He had misled the people in his district in this matter, and was very sorry for it. The proposition to grant the additional £1,500 was then put to the meeting, and unanimously agreed ro. Mr. Htirford thanked the Council most heartily for its unaninrous vote, and as to the matters which had been raised he hoped those interested would come and see him personally, and anything that could be done to improve the accommodation would be done. Dr. Jenkyn Lewis: I am Afraid the direc- tors have not taken into consideration the fact that Oilie Station will command Llanon and the whole district round there. FARMERS' CARTS. Mr E. J. Evans, Llanilar, had given notice that he would ctil attention to the collection of the Local Taxation, Licenses, and move a resolution that the Clerk be directed not to take proceedings for enforcing penalties in respect of waggons, carte, or other vehicles which were used by farmers solely for agri- cultural or market purposes.. The mover suid he was afraid the authorities attached greater importance to other words in the section of the Act than the word "solely," and so they pressed rather too hard on the termers in this respect. The Clerk said there was a very import- ant question involved in Mr. Evans' motion. He explained the position t& the Finance Committee, and requested not to take any proceedings until Mr. Evans had sub- mitted his motion that day. Mr. Evans assumed that whatever the construction of a vehicle might be, if it was used by a farmer for the purpose of going to market or carry- ing goods that he was exempt. That was not the law. If that was so his position and the position of the police would be very much more pleasant than it was now. In order to be exempted, the vehicle had. to be constructed or adapted for use and be used solely for the conveyance of any goods or burden in the course of trade or husbandry. Neither the police nor himself had asked any farmer to take out a license in respect of what was called a market cart, but of late years the farmers were using quite a different vehicle. They were using dog carts, very smartly got up, long shape, open front, cushioned seats Mr. D. C. Roberts: Rubber tyres. (Laughter). The Clerk: Yes, and they use these vehicles not to carry goods to market but to convey themselves and the members of their fam- ilies to market. That was the class of vehicles for which they applied to the farm- ers to take out licenses, and the majority of the farmers had done so willingly. Since the work had been entrusted to him. with the assistance of the police he had been able :o induce a large number of farmers to take out licenses in respect of these carts who did not previously do so. He had had this year over 120 reports from the police of farmers using vehicles such as he had de- scribed who had not taken out licenses. He had applied to them, and over 80 had now taken out licenses. About forty or fifty declined to do so, and he had threatened them with proceedings, and it depended upon the action of the Council that day whether he would proceed or not. Mr. Peter Jones said from the legal aspect they had no alternative but to enforce pay- ment of these licenses. There was also the financial aspect. It was all very well for these gentlemen who drove about in these swell carriages to say they would like to be exempted What would be the result? It would mean that the rates of the county would have to be increased to make up for the amount received from this source. Mr. E. J. Evans said he thought the Council would be prepared to help the farmer. Mr. Peter Jones: We have not got the legal power. Mr. Evans: But these matters will have to be considered by the justices sitting in the different petty sessional divisions. One bench of magistrates may dismiss a case, whereas another bench may convict. That would not be fair with the same class of carriage. Mr. C. M. Williams said 1183 persons had taken out licenses while 53 had not. The amount received from the licenses was about £900. If they exempted the 53 who had not paid they would also have to refund the money to the 1,183 who had paid. He sug- gested that Mr. Evans should withdraw his motion for this year, and if he thought fit bring it on next year. After further discussion, the proposition was put to the meeting, and lost. FERTILISERS AND FEEDING STUFFS. Mr. John Jones, Cilcennin, had given notice of the following:— To call attention to procedure for offences under the Fertilizers and Feeding Stuffs Act, 1906, and to move that the Council petition the Board of Agriculture that authority be given to the Council to take such proceedings without first obtain- ing the previous consent of the Board. The mover said he believed this authority was once possessed by the Council, and he would like to see it restored. There were unscrupulous persons who every year dis- posed of large quantities of rubbish among the class of small farmers, who had not the requisite knowledge or independence to pro- tect themselves. He also considered the Act should be amended and extended, in order to prevent the sale of any goods under a fraudulent name. Mr. T. Morgan seconded, and the proposi- tion was unanimously agreed to. TROEDYRAUR POLLING STATION. On the proposition of Mr. D. Davies, sec- onded by the Rev. Daniel Evans, and sup- ported by Alderman Evan Davies and Mr. Evan Williams, it was unanimously agreed that in future the place of County Council elections for the Troedyraur Division be at the Vestry room of Hawen Congregational Chapel, the authorities of the chapel having kindly agreed to grant the use of the vestry for election purposes. POULTRY FARMING. Mr. Vaughan Davies, M.P., moved that a sum not exceeding £10 be granted out of the county fund towards printing in Welsh the pamphlets of the National Poultry Or- ganisation Society. Mr. Davies said he was a member of the committee of the Society, which recently sent a demonstration car to Newcastle, Llandyssul, and other places. The pamphlets, if printed, would be dis- | tiiimted in Cardiganshire and the adjoining counties. Carmarthenshire and Pembroke- shire were also to be asked to make a con- tribution of a similar amount. Mr. Davies went on to state that the consumption of eggs and poultry per annum in Cardiganshire ¡ represented a total value of £.10,488, in Car- nm v and in Pembrokeshire 333. ardigansu'«. how^vev. only spent l £ 30 in providiaig instruction in poultry farming and Carmarthenshire only £ 48, while Pembrokeshire did not spend anything. The total value of eggs and poultry con- sumed in 'Wales was about £ 1,200,000 per annum, of which one half was imported. There was thus an enormous market open to the small farmers and cottagers, and it was on their behalf that he asked the Council to make the grant. Mi-. Josiah Jones seconded the proposition, which was supported by Alderman Evan Davies and unanimously carried. CARDIGANSHIRE OLD AGE PENSIONS. At a meeting of the Cardiganshire Old Age Pensions Committee, held at Aberayron on Thursday last, it was reported that the total number of claims considered by the various sub-committees for the three months ended 31st July was 80. Of these 68 were allowed, 8 disallowed, and 4 adjourned. Questions were raised in six cases, and in one case there is an appeal.
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