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"I.- :1 1 Sir Herbert Roberts, at Glan Conway. PRACTICAL SPEECH BY MR. GOMER ROBERTS, J.P., C.C. LIBERAL ENTHUSIASM. The schoolroom of the Bryn Ebenezer Chapel was crowded on Wednesday evening last to hear Sir Herbert Roberts address his constitu- ent. Dr. M. J. Morgan, J.P., Conway, presided, and amongst those present were County Coun- cillor Corner Roberts, J.P., the Rev. Robert Williams, M.A., the Rev. H. D. Harris, Mr. David Evans (Cartrefle), Mr. William Hughes, J.P. (Llamrwst), Mr. Robert Williams (Bryn- hyfryd), secretary of the local Liberal Associa- tion, and a large number of the farmers of the district. > "A FATAL DOSE" FOR THE HOUSE OF LORDS. The Chairman, who was received with cheers, congratulated those present for coming to hear their candidate under such trying weather con- ditions. He was glad of the apportuncity of be- ing in the chair on that occasion to show his admiration for their member, Sir Herbert Ro- berts. (Applause.) They owed him a great deal for the services he had rendered during the past eighteen years. He had been one of the most faithful me-mbers of the House. Sir Her- bert and the Welsh members had had to face many difficulties since they were in the House, and they (the electors) had not yet had the full fruits of their labours. They had to do away with the greatest obstacle they were confronted with for ever. (Applause.) The question to be decided was, were they going to be ruled by the Lords or by the House of Commons? (Ap- plause.) Were they going to' give authority to those who had nobody's benefit but their own to consider? (A voice: 1 Never, and ap- plause.) He was pleased to think that it was a Welshman's Budget which had brought this about. (Loud applause.) The thing had not happened suddenly. Twelve years ago Mr. Lloyd George was staying with him, and he (the speaker) asked Mr. George whether it was pos- sible for them, as Welshmen, to obtain any of the measures they in Wales had. set their hearts upon ? Mr. Lloyd George replied that he did not think so unless they gave a fatal dose to the House of Lords. (Loud applause.) The Budget was too Radical for the Lords to stand. It was now time to strike. They had come to close quarters with the Lords, and he was of opinion that it would be the' sitone of David that would accomplish the end. (Loud applause.) Their should now support Sir Herbert Roberts more ihan ever—{applause),—and he believed his majority would be greater than ever. (Hear, hear, and cheers.) He had not a great trust in Einglisih promises, and it behoved the Welsh cause to be firm as a rock and that there should be no turning back until they had gained for Wales those measures they had been asking for for so long a time. (Applause.) THE TARIFF REFORM FALLACY. Mr. David Evans moved a vote of confidence in Sir Herbert, and the Rev. Robert Williams seconded. Whilst the reverend gentleman was speaking Mr. Gomer Roberts, accompanied by Mr. William Hughes, entered the room, and re- ceived an ovation. The Rev. R. Wililiams, proceeding, said they were asked to accept Tariff Reform to make this country successful and other countries unsuc- cessful. That was the Tory idea, but it was a fallacy. The success of one country should mean success to others. The speaker dwelt upon the advantages of Free Trade to the quarrymen of Bethesda and to farmers generally. If the Tories went in—(a voice: "They won't they would get conscription. The old age pen- sions had greatly ruffled the Tories, and they were quite indignarit' wihem i!t was suggested that they (the Tories) would discontinue them. The Liberal Government did not make much ado about the pensions, but gave them. (Loud applause.) The vote was carried, with two dissentieinits, amidst great applause:, which was doubled in vigour when Sir Herbert Roberts rose to ad- dress the audience. THE POWER OF THE PURSE. Sir Herbert thanked them for the very warm way in which the resolution of confidence in him was carried. In his travels about the con- stituency he was accustomed to that kindness On the previous evening he was obliged to turn back when attempting to get to Bryneglwys, through being in a snowdrift. An obstacle was in the way, and he thought of another obstacle to— (Loud cheers.) Mr. William Hughes: The snow is melting now. (Laughter and applause.) Continuing Sir Herbert said he could not remember 1832. That was an important year, that of the Reform Bill. The present was as important, if not more important, than that. (Hear, hear.) Who was to rule the nation was the question. It was the question of the right of the House of Lords to control the purse of the country. The question would have to be decided at the coming election. A House of Commons man was he. (Applause.) He had been there for eighteen years, and his father be- fotre him, therefore he had been practically brought up in the atmosphere of the House of Commons. (Applause.) Six months ago be thought it would have been impossible for the Lords to reject the Budget. To-day it was a fact. Let them therefore decide, once for a.11, to put an end to such a state of things. The rejection of the Budget meant the destroying of the food and life of Liberalism. Liberalism to him was something more than a mere political creed. It meant the life of the nation and the stepping from darkness into light. (Applause.) Liberal principles should be living facts in their lives. Their labours in a great measure had been in vain, but he thought he saw upon the horizon of the future the star of a brighter hope. Thev must take the key of the Statute Book out of the House of Lords. (Applause.) THEIR BRILLIANT COUNTRYMAN, LLOYD GEORGE! He felt glad that one of their own country- men, next to the highest in the land, had done what tie had done, without the influence of wealth and other things, and merely through his courageous spirit. (Applause.) He felt glad they had, mainly through the action of their brilliant countryman, Mr. Lloyd George, been brought to close quarters with the House of Lords as to the Budget. (Loud applause.) He (Sir Herbert) had supported the Budget day and night. Moiney was required. Everybody ad- mitted that. Sixteen millions were required for the needs of the navy and to pay old-age pen- sions. He yielded to none in his desire to main- tain the strength of the British navy. At the same time he would call upon the people of the land to do more than they had done in the past to promote peaceful ideas 'between them- selves and other great nations. (Applause.) all, the peoples were to decide these great ■things, and if they did so there would be less need of Dreadnoughts. (Applause.) The pass- ing of the Old Age Pensions Bill by itself en- titled the Government to the Lasting, gratitude of the people of the country. It was not charity or a favour to pay old people what was, their due. (Applause.) However necessary it was to p maintain the navy it was far better to strengthen the life of the nation from within and to curb the forces which paralyse and blight its social progress. (Applause.) Aid age pensions was a step forward on the road of social reform. THE BUDGET AND FARMERS. The Budget did not, as was said in the enemy's quarters, harm the farmers. On the other hand, it would bring a harvest of benefits for the farming industry. It was intended that those who had very large incomes should pay more than those who had small Ones. (Hear, hear.) What was there unfair in that? (A voice None.") It was only 'right and fair if a man had a larger income than another that he should pay a larger toll to the State. It was fairness to tax the luxuries of the rich, not motor-cars alone, for he had one of his own.— (laiighter),-and the poor also had been taxed in their tobacco and spirits. He had been greatly struck by landlords j sending deputation after deputation to the Chancellor to alter certain taxes in their favour, I whilst not a single deputation nad been protest- ing for the working classes. They were willing to do their share. He was proud of that fact, and it spoke well of the manhood of the nation in regard to the working classes. (Applause.) They ought to have no distinction in classes, but rather ought to be co-workers in improving the national fibre of their country. (Hear, hear.) THE LAND TAX. Referring to the land tax, Sir Herbert said that if land increased from outside causes, and the increment was unearned, a benefit should go to the community which brought its value about. In this way the Budget would open the way for many reforms: in other dilections and would bring a harvest of good to the citizen- ship of the nation. (Applause.) FAITHFULNESS OF FARMERS TO SIR HERBERT. He was glad Mr. Gomer Roberts had ar- rived. (Applause.) To be perfectly plain, he acknowledged publicly that the farmers of that county had by their faithfulness placed him where he was. At the same time, he asked them
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Who Promised Old Age Pensions ? The Tories. Who Gave Old Age Pensions ? The Liberals. I
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-e- St Asaph (Flint) Rural District Council. PROGRESS WITH THE HOSPITAL SCHEME. Mr. Edward Williams presided over this Council on Friday, when there was only a small attendance of members together with the Clerk (Mr. Charles Grimsley), and the other officials. COUNTY SCHOOL GOVERNORS. Dr. Davies and Mr. W. S. Roberts were re- appointed Governors upon the Board of the County School, St. Asaph. THE SEWERAGE DIFFICULTIES AT MELIDEN AND DYSERTH. It was reported that several members of the Council met, according to arrangement, at Meli- den on the 13th December, to consider the ques- tion of the drainage of Meliden. They were joined by members of the Parish Council and sev- eral ratepayers, and letters were received con- cerning the matter from the Railway Company and others. Dr. Lloyd Roberts had told"the deputation that it was neccessary to have a pro- per drainage system, and the Council had in- structed their Surveyor, Mr. E. O. Evans, to prepare a scheme showing how the drainage could be carried from Mrs. Walkden's property, and made to connect with the existing sewer, and it was intended to have a Parish meeting at Dyserth. The Chairman said it had been deemed wise so have the ratepayers' views after Mr. Evans had prepared his scheme for Meliden, and that scheme was made after inspecting several pro- perties. The same difficulty as to Dyserth drainage beset them. Each parish was going in on its own account, and until they had these parish meetings nothing definite could be done. Mr. William Morris We can't do anything until we get the results of these parish meetings. The Surveyor (Mr. Evans) then showed a copy of the plans prepared by him for the Meliden dis- trict, and the Chairman suggested that particu- lars;o£ same be sent to the Meliden Parish Council. JOINT HOSPITAL SCHEME. It was reported that the Joint Hospital Com- mittee of the Flint and Denbigh Councils had decided upon a plan that would suit for the pur- poses of a hospital, but before instructing the Surveyor to further proceed with them it was de- cided to have the approval of that Council to do so. The Denbigh Council had decided to ask the Surveyor to proceed at once. The Chairman was of opinion that the Joint Committee had come to a right decision after all to go in for the larger scheme. Abergele and Prestatyn were now out of the way, and were not concerned in the matter. The two Councils were now going in for the matter on their own account, and it was a move in the right direction, and they could now ask for Surveyor to complete the plans and ask for estimates. THE HEAVY FLOODS AT ST ASAPH.. The Surveyor reported that the heavy flood in the River Elwy at the beginning of the month had washed away a considerable amount of the bank of the river near the sewerage outfall, and a big tree was blown down at the same point across the river, causing an obstruction to the natural flow of water, and as a result of this, the water in the river washed down the bank more rapidly than it would otherwise do. At present the sewer was within about three feet of the river, and unless the obstruction was removed, and the river protected, the sewer will soon be broken into, and the sewerage will then flow di- rect into the river. The land belongs to the Ecclesiastical Commissioners. Mr. Lothian, the representative for St. Asaph, accompanied him to inspect the place in question on the 9th De- cember. The matter was left in the hands of the Sur- veyor.
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St. Asaph Board of Guardians. > » APPOINTMENT OF ABERGELE DISTRICT l RELIEVING OFFICER. I I SEVENTY-EIGHT APPLICANTS. Mr. J. Frimston presided over the fortnightly meeting of this Board on Friday. There were also present Mrs. Mary Jones, Miss Owen Jones, 1 the Rev. Canon C. F. Roberts, Messrs. Owen 5 Rees, S. Perks, Robert Jones (Prestatyn), G. F. Gunner, P. Pennant Williams, Isaac Batho, Ben- nett Jones, Robert Lloyd, T. Roberts-Jones, John Lothian, T. U. Jones, J. Ellis Jones, Thos. Evans, John Jones, John Jones, (Abergele), Ro- o bert Davies, Thomas Salusbury, J. D. Jones, Morris Jones, William Jones, William Williams, R. E. Griffiths, Robert Jones, (Denbigh), William Morris, J. R. Ellis, W. S. Roberts, George Wil- liams, John Roberts (Llwyni), Edward Wil- liams the Clerk (Mr. Charles Grimsley), the Master (Mr. Robert Jones), and the other offi- cials. GUESTS AND CALLERS. The Master reported that the number of the inmates in the House that day was 164, as compared with 160 in the corresponding per- iod of last year. The number of vagrants re- lieved during the fortnight was 167, as compared with 163 in a like period twelve months ago. ARREARS OF CALLS. The Clerk reported the following arrears in calls :—Bodelwyddan, £ 73 Bodfari, £ 30 Llan- fairtalhaiarn, £ 11 and Rhyl, /947. Several Voices Rhyl Rhyl NEW RELIEVING OFFICER FOR ABERGELE. In consequence of the sudden death of Mrs. Williams, the Relieving Officer for the Abergele district, the Board advertised for a successor. Seventy-eight applications were received, and this number was considered by a special com- mittee, and ultimately reduced to four Mr. R. Hughes, Carnarvon Mr. P. J. Jones, Rhyl; Mr. J. Ellis Williams, St. Asaph; and Mr. E. Wil- liams, Waen. The age limit was 45 years. The foregoing candidates .were requested to be pre- sent for a personal interview, and each appeared before the Board. The four had excellent cred- entials. Mr. Thomas Evans (Abergele) proposed the selection of Mr. J. Ellis Williams, of St. Asaph. He had been for several years engaged as a de- puty for Mr. Davies, the Relieving Officer for the St. Asaph district, and therefore had served what might be termed an apprenticeship to the work. He had also other excellent attributes, and he (the speaker) was strongly convinced that Mr. Williams would prove a worthy officer for the post. (Hear, hear.) The proposal was seconded. Mr. John Roberts (Llwyni) proposed Mr. P. J. Jones, of Rhyl. He was of opinion that he would prove the most suitable man. As to the Carnarvon man, he a Mr. Thomas Evans I would not allow per- sonalities, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Edward Williams (with warmth) If Mr. Roberts wants to speak of a candidate, let him speak of him as a man, and not indulge in per- sonalities. (Hear, hear.) Mr. S. Perks seconded. Mr. John Jones (Waen) I propose Mr." Ed- ward Williams. He is the best of the lot. (Laughter.) There was no seconder, and so Mr. Hughes, of Carnarvon, and Mr. Edward Williams, did not go to the vote. It was suggested that the voting be by ballot, but the Clerk stated that the course would be against the law, and that the voting must be open and the names of each voter taken by him. Mr. W. S. Roberts suggested that the report- ers be asked to retire, whereupon several mem- bers vehemently protested against such a course, and that the reporters be allowed to stay. What had they to fear? and besides their pro- ceedings were perfectly straightforward. Twenty-six votes were recorded for Mr. Wil- liams, and seven for Mr. Jones. Mr. Williams was called into the room, and informed by the Chairman of his election, and he also paid a personal tribute to his worth. Mr. Williams returned thanks, and said he would endeavour to do his duties faithfully and conscientiously. (Hear, hear.) The new officer was also elected Registrar. THE WORKHOUSE AS A PLACE OF OF DETENTION. A letter was read from the Clerk of the Peace for Flintshire as to providing places of deten- tion in the Workhouse under the Children's Act of 1908. Mr. S. Perks proposed that they offer the Workhouse for the purpose requested. He did not think there would be any harm in having such children there, and further, there would not be many of them during the year. They might give it a trial. Mr. John Roberts seconded. The Clerk stated that the Visiting Committee had been considering the matter that morning, and perhaps Mr. Batho had something to say on the matter. Mr. Bathci said the Visiting Committee had given the matter its earnest consideration that morning. The Workhouse at present was very full, and boys had to sleep with men, and it seemed out of the question to admit more child- ren than they had at that time. It was very undesirable indeed that children should be al- lowed to sleep with men of perhaps not the best of characters. (Hear, hear.) As to the sug- gestion that they should take these other boys in under the Act, the Visiting Committee was of opinion that it could not be done. Neither would it be wise or in the best interests of the place. They would also have to keep more of a staff, and they had two men in charge, and they had sufficient to do already, and there was the contamination of placing young children with, in many cases, men of hardened character, and it would not elevate the tone of the Union children to be in the company of these juvenile offenders. And more than that, there was not one word in sub-section 108 of the Infant Life Protection Act as to the House being suggested as a place for the detention of these children. (Hear, hear.) Mr. John Roberts (Llwyni) was surprised that members of that Board should speak about these juvenile offenders as though they ought to be chained and locked up, simply for bad con- duct. They would be looked after at the Union. They took other children into the House, and why not these, and prevent them going to pri- son. They had children in that House whose I fathers were alive, and it would have a benefi- cent influence if the other children that had be- come offenders, came into contact with each other. Must they build another place for these offenders if the Uuion refused to have them ? Mr. Perks hoped the Guardians would vote in favour of these children. A Member How can we take them in when there is no room for them ? Mr. J. Ellis Jones stated that the reason the children they had in the House at present was caused through adverse circumstances with their parents. Were they going to make that House a prison ? Why, they were already try- img to turn out their children in a proper was to lessen the stigma of the Workhouse upon them, and yet it was suggested to bring juvenile offenders in as well. (Hear, hear.) Mr. T. Salusbury asked if it was not a fact that the House Visiting Committee had gone into the House properly with the result that there was no room for these children in the House. Mr. Robert Jones (Denbigh! If we have only two of these boys in the House, we must get special help Mr. John Roberts No, no. The Clerk was asked to read out of a journal concerning the Cardiff Union in such a case. Mr. Grimsley stated that it was reported in the Poor Law Journal, where the Cardiff Union had taken such children in, but were now going to refuse them owing to the demoralising effect they had upon the other children of the Union. (Hear, hear.) Upon being put to the vote, Mr. Perks' pro- posal was lost by a large majority.
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in the face of other issues that were being thrust upon them to stand true to the principles. I-Ie stuck tight to the principle of Free Trade. (Applause.) He could not cnange his opinion on that point—(applause),—for he could see no good in Tariff Reform for the country They must not think that Free Trade-was the last word for the farmers. Agriculture in Wales stood upon a different footing to what it did in England, and they should have a Welsh Land Bill, and secondly, they should have a Land Purchase Act for Wales, such as they had in Ireland. (Applause). One hundred millions had. been granted to Ireland for tenants to buy their land, and he did not see why they should not get the same advantages for Wales. (Ap- plause.) They should have a goal before them in Wales of making the land the property of those who tilled it. The land question, the edu- cation question, the temperance question, and many others depended upon the question now before the country, the people versus the Lords. He had no doubt as to the answer of West Denbighshire. (Loud applause.) He would travel might and day to the day of the election to meet friends and place the situation clearly before them, Amidst the clamour of the elec- tion let them not forget the high note that was before the country. It was a great fight for Liberalism of applying their principles to living facts, and so raising the life of the nation. (Loud applause.) MR. GOMER ROBERTS' HOMELY SPEECH. Mr. Roberts, upon rising to address the audi- ence, was most cordially received, and the warmth of his reception must have given him much gratification. He said that he could see by the faces of his auditors that they were people who had read and thought well. The question, however, now was that they must do all their could for Siir Herbert. Roberts in order to return him to the House of Commons. The speaker dealt in the most lucid, and at times amusing, manner, with the origin of the cry of the rich men of Lonodlon for Dreadnoughts, and Mr. Lloyd George's readti acquiescence, arid that they must pay for them as well. He flouted the canny and cunning idea of the Jingo party in reviving the German scare to blind the electorate from the real issue before the country—the Lords versus the People. The London financiers, headed by Lord Rothschild, fancied they knew the pulse of the country. There never was a greater fallacy. There was an old saying where he came from, and he sup- posed it had reached Glan Conway, that they who called for the tune must pay for it. (Laugh- ter.) Referring to Tariff Reform," the speaker dealt with it inn a most scathing manner, as a farmer speaking principally to farmers. He was not very old, but he remembered this so- called Tariff Reform being born. It was a very questionable thing for anything to have too many names. His respect was very little for anythin,g that had a. number of aliases. They had heard of a prisoner at the assizes who .might be named Thomas Murphy, alias this and alias that. That showed the character ,)-a gained by Murphy with his aliases. The first name given to Tariff Reform was Fair Trade, and the country would have nothing to do with that. Then they had IZ-eitiliation. That was not so handsome as the other. It had the flavour of the prize ring about it. (Laughter.) England would have none of that. (Applause.) Then Reciprocity anoeared! 0'11 the scene, and the Tory party itself would have none of it. (Laughter.) And lately the thing had been re- baptised. There was not much good in baptis- ing a man too often. (Laughter and applause.) And the_ i e-baptised1 emerged from its ablution, as Tariff Reform. (Laughter.) There were many reasons why the quack lemedy had been re- fused. Germany had had plenty of tariff, but no reform. America was the same, and Spain wanted it too. The speaker for a time spoke in a conversational and pointed manner to the farmers present as to the nostrum of Tariff Re- form, and that they must beware of it. In Lancashire and Birmingham all the workmen out of work were going to be employed through it. And in London and Liverpool again won- ders were going to happen. In fact everybody was going to be all right when. Tariff Reform was adopted. In. all his life he never knew of a thing which everybody could have only this. (Loud laughter.) But they flatly refused it. (Applause.) The speaker having dealt with the tariff existent up to 1846, referred to the parrot cry of Why not make the foreigner pay? Who paid the 3s. 8d. duty on tobacco? The consumer, of course. He was a great smoker himself, and he did not object to pay his little duty. It was more than possible that the grower of the leaf only got 1 per pound, for it. and n we knocked off the 3s. Sd. duty we could get the tobacco for the I J{ d. But they could not do. without duty, but his point was that the poor maligned foreigner did not p,ay: It was the consumer who paid, and the 1 aritfmongers knew i,t, and wanted it increased. (Applause.) Why not make the foreigner pay, indeed. It was- utterly impossible. In these little islands we cou.Ld only produce food to keep our 45 millions going for three months, and we must therefore have Free Trade. We had better land laws than we used to have, and were going to get better ones still. We 'were the beat-off country under the sun, and that without spoiling our neighbours. Therefore let the farmers beware lest they swallow the poisolli
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offered to them disguised in so many aliases. When farmers gave poison to mice they gener- ally cliothe4 the poison with flour or bread, sc as to deceive them. Tariff Reform," being sc rank a poison, presented to the public in such a specious way, would be refused by the intel- ligence of the country. They refused it because other nations did not got on with it. It hac poisoned their financial prosperity as nations (Applause.) England likewise from the day she accepted Tariff Reform would rnever prosper with it. They were good enough in the British Isles to raise sixteen millions without asking the foreigner to pay. Let them look at the fine picture of John Bull the farmer, with his mas- sive seal juSlt appearing beneath his waistcoat. His tine, round, happy face Pid they think when they gazed at his face that he liked the idea of the foreigner paying for him ? Certainly not. (Applause.) If they made the foreigner pay, why on earth cannot Germany meet hei Liabilities? Why were they so poor there? It was because they got such a good dosing of tariffs without the. reform." (Laughter and applause.) The Budget asked the broadest shoulders to bear the biggest burden. (Ap- plause.) There were more animals grazing on our lands to-day than there were thirty years ago. They had not sufficient food for them in their own country, and they must get the rest from foreign lands. "Were they going to tax what now was dear enough ? It had been as- sumed that farmers were a simple class, but they were not so soft, either. (Larughter and applause.) They must keep the market open to gat the best advantage. Free Trade had made England what it was, and it was Free Trade which would make it greater. (Atpplause.) They must measure their strength by their pros.. perity, and the speaker at this point gave a succession of figures showing the gradual and marvellous growth in our success as a nation. They were rich enough to meet their own calls without getting any help from o-ut-side- sources. Protected countries were groaning under trusts and monopolies. No, they must not have the vile thing. They must send the Government back for, he hoped, many more than four years in the future. (Applause.) They must send Sir Herbert back with a bigger majority than ever. .Liberalism meant crefydd rnewn adferiad." T Thev must have justice between man and man, and make the true spirit of Liberalism ring throughout the country. •-oud. applause.) The Chairman stated that no doubt the two who voted against the resolution at the beginn- ing were converted1 by this time. (Applause.) If Tariff Reform was accepted it would knock them back one hundred years in their social progress. Let them beware of such a national calamity. (Loud applause.) A STRONG RESOLUTION. idr, Clayton, who made a remarkable speech upon Socialism, referred to the Chancellor of the! Exchequer, 300 B.C., Demosthenes, who ut- tered words in those days which Mr. Lloyd George could use with equal effect to-day, as voicing the feelings of the people. He recited with much feeling A. man's a man for all that," and moved the following resolution — That this meeting declares the history of the House of Lords to show a persistent at- tachment to those sentiments personified in Charles 1., and is convinced that if given full liberty would as arrogantly overrule th,e rights and laws of this nation as he himself did therefore we demand that henceforth, and for ever, the decision of our selected re- presentatives in the Commons shall be final, absolute, unal-teiablej and subject to no other authority in the State. Mr. Jenkinson. seconded, and it was carried unanimously amidst cheers. A letter was read from Mr. H. J. Cheetham, regretting his inability to be present, and wish- ing the meeting every success. The Rev. H. D. Harris proposed a vote of thanks to the speakers, and Mr. Robert Wil- liams, Bronhyfryd, seconded. Sir Herbert pro- posed a vote of thanks to the Chairman, and both votes were carried with acclamation. The meeting terminated with the singing of Land of my Fathers."