The Weekly News and Visitors' Chronicle for Colwyn Bay Colwyn Llandrillo Conway Deganwy and Neighbourhood

Abergele District Council. LET THERE BE LIGHT! MR. JUDSON ON "SPLEEN." MR PIERCE ON FAIR FIGHT. MR. E. H. MILLWARD CRITICISED, WHERE WILL THE MATTER END? The monthly meeting of the Abergele and Penaarn Urban Disttrict Council was held at the Council Chamber on Monday evening, MT. J. Hannah in the chair. Other members present were Messrs. J. Edwards, W. H. Jones, Pierce Davies, J. Pierce, G. H. Judson, E. Williams, W7. P. Morris, and J. Buchanan; with the Cferfc, the Deputy Clerk, and the Surveyor. NO REPLY YET. The Clark explained that at a speidal Com- mittee meeitinig, held a fortnight ago, it had be'en decided to write to the Gas Company, ask- illlg them if they were prepared to sell the gas works to the Council, and if so, at whait price. No reply had yet been received. Like Christ- mias, it will come. ODDS AND ENDS. The Local Government Board had given its blessings, so to speak, on the Council's request to borrow montey with which to construct new ventilaiting shafts and other minor necessifties in the town. The Surveyor had been instructed to put the footpath leading from the Avenue to South Parade in order. For which much ithanks. The NVater Authorities at Rhyl had sent something in the nature of a love letter to the Council with regard to some of the hydrants, which werts enitliitled to old-age pensions. The Clerk had metaphorically put a stop to their tap by sending a worded reply to the effect that most of the spouting mechanisms referred to were not within- the, urban area. And that's the end of it, as Pat said when he swallowed his twist. STREETS AND WORKS COMMITTEE. This Committee is justifying its existence. They have come to the conclusion that Market- isftreet and Bridge-street must bear the weight of a winter's oveorcoat by a hundred tons (more or less) of macadam on their chests. Quite Úgbit, too they want a new covering badly at least that's what those who skip along them. say. But stones are bad for those of us who are troubled with bunions. NEW PLANS. Plans for alterations at Glan Dwr and at a cottage for Miss Wolstenholme, at Pensiarn, were submitted and passed. ALLEGED ILLEGAL USE OF GAS. The Surveyor said that he received two let- ters from Mr. E. H. Millward, Secretary to the Gas Company, which he proceed,ed to read as •follows — Abergele, 7th December, 1907. Dear Sir,—My attention has been called to the illegal use of the public lamp ait the en- trance to the Tannery premises. As you are aware, this is a very grave offence but before reporting it to your Council, I deemed it ad- visable in your interest to first give you formal notice of same, and to' ask you to see that the matter is ait once discontinued, and that you report it to your Council at their next meeting, with a view of having it recorded upon the minutes, seeing your Council are the parties re- sponsible to the Gas Company Thanking you —Yours truly, E. H. MILLWARD, Secretary. P.S.—If you have any explanations to offer I shall be pleased to lay them before my direc- tors at their next meeting.-E. H. M. The Surveyor explained that after the receipt of this letter he first spoke to Mr. Crabbe, and then wrote to Mr. Millward with regard to the charges of illegaliiJty contained in the Jetter. Afterwards he (the Surveyor) received the fal- lowing letter from Mr. M,illward Abergele, 10th December, 1907. Mr. M. R. Jones. Dear Sir,—In answer to yours of the 7th De- cember I need only refer you to the case of the Post Office lamp which was discussed by your Council in January, 1903 (I believe). We have several consumers having outdoor lamps, and for which they pay for gas consumed. The Gas Company would be only too pleased to fix a meter to the lamp complained of, charging for the gas used. "If the Council petrmiit the use of public lamps, for the use and convenience of private individuals, then why not adopt the either private outdoor lamps?" This was the question put to mle, and really caused me to write you. The matter is one for the ratepayers, and not for the Gas Company. All the Gas Company have to do is to see they are paid for the gas consumed.—Yours truly, E. H. MILLWARD, Secretary. The Chairman: It seems that we are not to grumble when we use too much gas, and when we use too little. Mr. J. Edwards: Yes, and we were in the dark for this best part of last week at Pensiarn. Mr. Judson Really, this accusation puts me in a false position. It is a direct accusation that I am wishing to save money at the ex- pense of the ratepayers! Of course, this is the result of an innocent acoidenit. In coming home from Rhyl about a week or so ago, I met Hugh Davies, the lamplighter. I said "Oh, Hugh Davutes. ilt is an awfully dark night. What about that lamp at the Tannery door? Can't you turn it off after you hav'e put all the other lamps out when returning home?" Hugh Davies replied "Oh, yes; most certainly, i would have done :that before if you had men- tioned fit-; it would not cost anything." "Now," continued Mir. Judson, "I wish to point out this: I don't mind baing attacked fairly and squarely; but I don't like an unfair attack. There is a spleen attached to this attack, simply because I brought the gas purchase scheme for. ward at the last meeting. (Hear, hear.) I am sure, moreL or less, that the secretary of the Gas Company had made up his mind to pull me up on the firsit opportunity that presented itself. If he "had come to me and said Mr. Judson, you have done wrong,' I would have apologised; but he didn't. What did he do? He lasfoed that the ^accusation should be re- corded on the minutes of 'the Council! Now, gentlemen. I am entirely in your hands. I can only say that if thisi maitter is recorded on the minutes, you would be doing a great injustice to me. (Hear, hear.]^ But let me say that if we don't adopt the gas purchase scheme it will retard our progress. If the ratepayers do.n'lt want iit, then let it go and in that case I am seriously thinking whether it would not be better fortrte to resign my seat on the Council." In concluding his speech Mr. Judson seemed to be labouring under a great deal of emotion. Mr. W. P. Morris,,aft,er as.,kin,g the Surveyor to read Mir. Milliard's letters over again, moved that they be laid on the table. Mr. J. Pierce: I s'eicond Mr. Marris's pro- position. Reading beitwe-en the lines, one can sale the drift art the whole affair. I do like a ,free and fair fighlt. It is a pity that any mem- ber of this Council should be made a target of, especially by the secretary of the gasworks. I hope the Council will put its face against this sort of proceeding. Mr. J. Buchanan seconded, and Mr. Morris's motion was carried unanimously. £ 500 OUTSTANDING. The Clerk said that he had been notified by the collector that the sum; of Z500 in rate money was outstanding. The sum was about the same as was unpaid laslt yerar, when a special notice was sent out to the delinquents. The rate col- lector wished to know whether he was to siend similar notices out now. IMr. Crabbe: Perhaps it would be better to leave the matter over Itill the beginning of the new year; let us have Christmas over in peace. (Laughtieir. )-Ag,r.eed. BAD FOR THE KIDDIES. Mr. Edward Williams asked the Surveyor if it would not be possible to have the stonleis which had been carted to Peel-street steam- rolled at once. The steam-roiller had been taken up to Llanifair-roadi, where it was not so badly needed. He would move that they accede to the request of the Peel-street ratepyers to have the stonas rolled ;ait once. The stones were a source of great inconvenience to little children, who. had to dodge round and about them in going to and from school. The Surveyor explained that ten, tons of stones had arrived in the station ait once, and that they had been carted to the most conveni- ent spot under the circumstances prevailing. Mr. W. P. Morris We ought to deal with the working men as we do with the aristocracy. An impression has got abroad that we as a Council don't do so; and I must say that it looks as if we were more ready to comply with the demands of the aristocraitic people than we do with the Peel-street people. Mr. J. Edwards: I don't think you are right in siaying that. Mr. J. Pierce: But all the ari-stocratis don't live in Pensarn, Mr. Edwards. The Surveyor: I try to do the best I can under the circumstances. it is immaterial to me whether the people are high or low. I work according to my conscience. (Hear, hear.) THE SAME OLD GAME! And, as sure as_my buttons are brass, There arose the great question of gas; John Edwards said Lo They are dreadfully slow— As slow as the Harp's' summer ass! Which, translated, means that Mr. J. Edwards complained that the gas consumers of PeoEarn had suffered a great deal of inconvenience dur- ing the last three days owing to scarcity of that luminous commodity. Mr. J. Pierce: The fact of the matter is, we are trifled with in t-hii-s respect. This laxity in the gas management has now become a by-word in Pensiarn and district. I move a resolution that a letter be sent to the gas company on the matter. We ought to move seriously in this business. Mr. J. Buchanan seconded, and claimed the £5 reward offered by the Council for informa- tion leading to the conviction of any person destroying the Council's property. (Laughter.) Mr. Piierces motion was carried. MR. LLOYD-GEORGE: CONGRATULA- TIONS AND SYMPATHY. On the motion of Mr. W. P. Morris, it was decided to send a letter to Mr. Lloyd-George congratulating him on his success in averting the threatened railway strike,. and sympathising with him in the irreparable loss he had sus- tained in the death of his young daughter, Miss M,air Eluned Lloyd-George. This, concluded the business. SEARCHLIGHT.

Coiwyn Bay Appeal Case In the Court of Appeal, on Friday, before thle IJord Chijeif Justice and Lords Justices Buckley and Kennedy, the case of Wj¡1lia;m Hor- ton (claimant) v. The Corlwyn Bay and Colwyn Urban District Council came. before the Coumt on appeal by the claimant from a judgment of Mr. Justice Bigham an a special case submitted him by the umpire in arbitration between the claimant and the local authority. It appeared that owing to the rapid increase of the population af Co:lwyn Bay, in conse- quence of its popularity as a seaside resort, the Urban District Council resolved to carry out a system of sewerage under the powers of their local action, and in July, 1903, they gave due notice to. the claimant that the sewer would pass through or under certain streets, roads, and lands of which he was the reputed owner. The claimant subsequently gave notice that he should require compensation, as damage would be to his land, and on the nth October, 1904, Thomas Booth Earring,ton and George Chatterton were appointed arbitrators under the provisions of ith!^ Publjic Health Act1, 1875. They, however, did not make an award within the time stipulated, and failed to appoint an umpire. Therefore, on the 26th October, 1904, it was agreed to continue the aiibitratt-ion and to aptpointt. Mr. Jahn: Thomas Wood, melllllber of the Institute of Civil Engineers, of Cboik-street, Liverpool, as umpire. The arbitration was continued in the presence of counsel represent- ing the parties from time to time till 1906. It appeared that the warks constructed by the re. spondents consisted of an intercepting isewer, a pumping station, a covered reservoir, and an outfall reservoir, and there were several sewers connecting with the intercepting sewer, the sewerage of the adjoining district of Llysfaen being connected with the intercepting sewer, and carried through the respondents' system of sewerage to the sea. Portions of the intercept- ing sewer and of the outfall sewer passed through or under lands belonging to the claim- ant, but the pumping, station and reservoilr WieTe constructed by respondents from other owners. The umpire ultimately awarded the claimant ^871 10s. compensation for damage done to the land taken for the intercepting and outfall sewers and ^758 in respect to constructive damage done by the construction of the pump- ing station and reservoir, pravidrilnrg that the claimant should be held to be legally entitled 10 compensation in the latter case, and on that point the umpire stated a case for the considera.- tion of the High Court. This question, came be- fore Mr. Justice Bigham in Novembeir last, when his Lordship decided, that the claimant was not entitled to the £758, as the works com- plained Off were constructed on the respondents'' own land and no nuisance was complained of. It was against this decision that the claimant now appealed. Sir Robert Fin.lay, K.C., for the appellant, argued that the land adjoining the pumping station and reservoir was clearly damaged for building purposes by the mere presence of the sewerage station, and that if any of thl2 claim- ant's land was taken for sewerage works claim. ant was entitled to. compensation in respect to the whole of the works, though same parts were not upon or under his land. The Court reserved judgment.

Colwyn Bay Justices and Vaccination THE NEW LAW. INCIDENTS IN THE POLICE COURT. Before the Colwyn Bay Justices, on Saturday, Thomas Welch, 79, Park-road, applied for an exemption order in respect of the vaccination of his child Mary, born on October 6th. Mr J. Watkin Lumley said that there was no necessity for Welch to appear before the magistrates, because the child was born since August 1st, the date at which the new Act came into force, and all that was now necessary was for him to sign a declaration of his conscientuous objection. The Chairman (Mr Kneeshaw). Your application will be granted. You could have made a declara- tion. Mr Lumley There is no necesssity for him to make an application. The applicant proceeded to the Justices' Clerk's table and paid the costs of the application. Mr Lumley There is no necessity for you to pay this at all. you can get a form from the Registrar, and it will save the expense of paying for this exemption here. Of course, you can do whatever you like. Have you paid? Applicant Yes sir. Mr James Wood: You are very foolish. (Laughter.) Robert Williams, 74, Park-road, had a similar application to make in respect of his child William Richard Williams, born 28th August. He was informed that there was no necessity for him to appear there, as he could sign a declaration.

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Conway District Education Committee. LOCAL APPOINTMENTS. Mr William Bevan presided over a well attended meeting of the Committee, held at the Council Schools, on Monday. The other members present were Mr 0. W. Roberts, Llandudno; Dr R. Arthur Pritchard, Dr M.J. Morgan, Messrs Robert Roberts, Llandudno; Thomas Williams, W. O. Williams, Llandudno R. Fisher, A. G. Rogers, Col. H. Lloyd Mostyn, Messrs Richard Conway, Owen Williams, and Hugh Owen, together with the School Attendance Officer (Mr J. R. Jones). Miss Annie Williams, of the Conway Schools, was appointed to fill a vacancy in the staff of the new County Council Schools at Llandudno Junction. Mr R. Fisher in the course of a discussion upon the matter observed that he did not think it wise to pursue a policy which made for immediate dis- turbance elsewhere. Mr W. O. Williams We cannot prevent teach- ers from trying to better themselves. The Chairman: We are bound to make vacancies somewhere. Dr Arthur Pritchard We will be sorry to lose her at Conway. To the position of assistant master, at the same school, Mr Arthur Ll. Evans, High street, Conwy, was elected out of a large number of applicants. It was resolved to offer the vacancy thus caused at Lloyd-street Schools, Llandudno, to the next highest on the list. HOLIDAYS. The question of curtailing the summer holidays in order to give an additional week at Christmas was introduced by the Secretary (Mr E. R. Davies), and after some discussion it was resolved to obtain the opinion of the local managers upop the matter. The Christmas holidays were fixed as from Friday, 20th of December, to January 17th.

Penmaenmawr Quarryman's Claim. A CURIOUS COMPENSATION CASE. CAN AN OPERATION BE FORCED? At the Bantgor County Court on Monday, be- fore his Honour Judge Moss, Mr. James Porter applied on behalf of Darbishires, Limitted, to rediuice the amount of compens.ation, awarded by the Court, iin April last to Edward Hughes, one of Darbishires' employees, who in conse- quence of an injury sustained at the quarries had to have his foot amputated. The amount of compensation awarded was, 10s. per week. In opening the case Mr. Porter resifcatdl the facte, among them being that Messrs. Darbi- shires bore the cost of the amputation and also he cost of a kneehng pin. This, however, Hughes refused to use, as he said it hurt him. In the 'meantime some adhesions had formed. But still, by a treatment which hardly d-eiserved ithe name of operation, these adhesions co-uld be released and the kneeling pin could be gradu- ally used, and in time the mam would be able to work and earn better wages at the quarry than he was getting now by way of compensa- tion. This was not a question oif money with Messrs. Darbishires, but they thought it best in the man's own intere:1ts that he should get into a condition ito work instead of allowinig himself to lapse and become a cripple. Mr. TwigglÐ Ellis, who appeared for the re- spondent, said that Hughes was a quarry labourer, and 'earned about 22s. a week. Mr. Charles H. Darbishire, replying to his -pl I Honour, said they had a man similarly situated to Hughes, who after wearing a kneeling pin was able to work and earn about 22S. a week. Mir. Twiigge Ellis said that Hughes had tried his best to use the kpeelimg pin and found it impossible. Continuing, Mr. Twigge Ellis said the,re was nothing in the Compensation Act to compjl a man to undergo an operation. His Honour said there was hardly a sugges- tion of an operation. If he found a man wilth a stiff arm who refused to have it bent he should stop his money if a referee declared there was no dangler in the act. Was this not) a case for a medical referee? After further hearing his Honour reduced the award to as. per week, suspending the order, tpweven, fbr three months with a view to giv- ing the respondent an opportunity of consult- ing Dr. Robert Jones, of Liverpool.

Incorporated Society of Musicians. LOCAL SUCCESSES. The results of the examination held at LJian. fairfechan on Friday last are announced as foil. lows;: Preparatory Grade Doris Gwendolen Jones, Uanfairfecban (honours) Glyn Williiams, Pernio maenmawr Howell Williams, Penmaenmawr. Grade i Violet Coleman, Colwyn Bay. Grade 2: Ilfa Owen, Penmaenmawr Alice Hughes, Alber. Grade 3: Christiana Robinson, Colwyn Bay; David G. Roberts, Carnarvon; Ethel Baxter, Llanfairfeehan Nellie Morgan, Carnarvon. Grade. 4: Ernest Godber, Llysfaen. Grade i (organ) Thomas Kirkham, Llanfair- feehan.

Llandudno Petty Sessions. THEFT OF DUCKS FROM A GREAT ORME FARM. Mr Kneeshaw (chairman) presided at these Sessions on Monday. The other magistrates on the Bench were Messrs William Bevan, J. O. Thomas. and Hugh Owen, together with the Chief Constable (Col Ruck). LICENSING. On the application of Mr R. S. Chamberlain, the license of the Washington Hotel was transferred from Mrs Kaye to Mr Stanley Roe. DRUNKENNESS. The following fines for drunkenness were imposed:—R. M. Williams, 22, Jubilee-street, is. and costs Alfred Davies, Jubilee-street, 5s. and costs John Griffith, Quarry Cottage, Penrhynside, 2s. 6d. and costs; William Hughes, Prospect- terrace, is. and costs; John Williams, Back Madoc- street, is. and costs George Welsh, Back Madoc- street, 2s. 6d. and costs Hugh Jones, Rowena House, 5s. and costs Harry Jones, Back Caroline- street, 5s. and costs J. H. Atherton, Alexandra- road, 5s. and costs. OBSTRUCTION. For obstructing a footpath by allowing a hand- cart to remain unattended too long, upon a back road, Mr T. H. Fitzimmons, of the Carlton Buffet, was fined 2S. 6d. and costs. THEFT OF DUCKS. Two youths, named Robert Hobson and William Pritchard, were charged by Supt. Rees with steal- ing ducks from Penymynydd Farm, at the top of the Great Orme, on the second of last month. Mrs Roberts, of the farm in question, deposed that on the evening of the 2nd two ducks and several fowls were found to be missing. The ducks she valued at 3s. each and the fowls at 2s. A Mr Robert Hobson, of Penyffrith, said that the defendants had visited his house and had asked him to buy ducks, but that he had refused the offer. P.C. John Williams (29), in the course of his evidence deposed that the.defendants had admitted the theft when formally charged. Pritchard said in reply: "I took it home and feathered it, my sister roasted it, and the children ate it." (Laughter.) Hobson said We did take the ducks. 1 took one to my home, feathered it, and ate it." Both defendants now said that they were extremely sorry for what had occurred. Superintendent Rees observed that both had been up on two previous occasions, but the charges then were drunkenness. He was afraid these boys did not lead a very sober life. The Chairman remarked that it was a sad thing to see young fellows like the accused up on so serious a charge. As he did not think they could have properly considered what they were doing, he would deal leniently with them and imposed a fine of f i and costs. FIVE BOY DEFENDANTS. The dock in the next few minutes was filled by five boys, of ages ranging from 9 to 14. Their names were B. Williams, R. Edwards, L. Edwards, R. Boole, and J. Garret. The boys were charged by Supt. Rees, with the larceny of a large number of toys and small articles of jewellery from the premises of Mr Thomas Jephcott, Gloddaeth-street. The Supt. said that most of these things had been removed from glass cases outside the shop, but some had been taken from a place just inside the door. Part of the spoils was distributed to other children, and the other part hidden. The property had been valued at £ 3 9s. od. When charged, the boys all admitted the offence, and expressed their sorrow. Mr R. S. Chamberlain, who nominally appeared for all the boys desired to point out that this incident could not be regarded in the light of a crime in the true sense of the word. It was nothing but mischief. There had been no attempt to make money. The boys had collared these things and in a funk had afterwards smashed them and put them down in a drain. And in this connection he would like to point out that tradesmen who made things too easy of access sorely tempted the public to commit thefts of this kind. There was a place he had in mind where two flitches of bacon would be seen hanging out almost every evening, and if a hungry man was passing by he would not consider it all that much of a crime if he cut a few slices down for his breakfast next morning. laughter). The temptation had been strong in the case of these boys, and under the circumstances he would ask the magistrates to be lenient, merely recommending the parents to watch their children a little more closely in the future. The Chairman, further explained that the boys could be sent for 12 months imprisonment, said that they would for this first time take a lenient view of the matter. The boys parents would be bound over in the sum of c5 each, to be responsible for the actions of the boys for some time in the near future. The Chairman agreed that a great amount of temptation was put in the way of the public in the way that had been mentioned.

A story isi told of a little boy who attended service and lingered behind, and insisted on seeing the missionary. At length his wish was giratifkd. "Ah! my lad," said !the kindly clergyman as he patted the boy's head, do you wish to consecrate your young life to this noble work?" "No, sir," replied the boy; "I wanted to know if you have got any foreign stamps."