Carnarvon and Denbigh Herald and North and South Wales Independent

MERIONETHSHIRE. DOLGELLEY. MARSHALL, revising barrister attended at the County Hall, on Monday mom- log, to revise the lin „[voter, tor Docile, P' .f G.rlfflt". solicitor, appeared for the Liberal Association, and the Conserva hves were represented by Mr Charles Millard solicitor. Two Conservative occupation claims' three old Conservative Joggers', and two Conser- vative owners' (claims were allowed, and seven disallowed. There was no objection to Liberal voters. One Liberal lodger vote, the only Liberal claim, was allowed. BARMOUTH. Mr Marshall sat at the Police Staticn, in the afternoon, to revise the lists of voters for this Roberts'^1 R' J* ?.riffith» solicitor, Mr Andreas TaSil } ™au rest»»iog, Councillor Lewis Lewis, and Mr john Adams looked after the Liberal interests, and Mr Charles Millard, soli- the Conservatives.—For the Pa~ ?,nV six Conservative were a,!lowed, and four Liberal votes disallowed. jjlD6rSi8 OlIlwj0Ci no opposition. For the Lianaber parish, the Liberals lodged seven objec- tions to Gonserv ative occupation claimants. Six objections were avowed, and the uther ad- journed. Two Conservative new lodgers and one ownor were sustained. Six Liberal claims wure sustained, and one disallowed. Two Liberal local government claims were also won BALA. At Bala, there were not many cases t,) he dis- posed of. Mr Andreas Roberts appeared for the Liberals, and Mr Henry Jones, from the offiee of Mr Millard, for the Unionists. The following is the result:—Conservative claims sustained,*11 Liberal claims sustained, 6 Conservative ob- jections sustained. 2; Liberal objection-; sus-I tamed, 3. CORWEN. The revi.iug barrister, Mr F. Marshall, held a court at Corwen, where Mr Millard, Dolgelley, appeared for the Unionists, and Mr John, Cor- JT11* Rtulicals. The notices served by the Radicals were objectedjto by Mr Mil'ard on the ground that they did not give the name of the correct parish, stating Towyn instead of t-orwen. The objection was upheld, The I the correct parish, stating Towyn instead of t-orwen. The objection was upheld, The I Radicals sustained two claims and the Conser- vatives live. The Conservatives objected to were all allowed to remain in consequence of the defect above mentioned.

DENBIGHSHIRE. LLANRWST. On Wednesday, the Hun. Richard Cecil Gros- venor sat at the Magistrates'-room, Llanrwst, to revise the voters' lists for the parishes of Llan- rwst, E^iwysbach, Llanddoget, Llacsanttirtiid- glan-Conway, Llangerniew, and Gwytherin,— Mr David Jones, solicitor, Llanrwst,jwafched the interests of the Liberals, and Mr Bryan, Ruthin, assisted by Mr J. W. Griffith kgriffitli and Allard) was for the Conservatives.—The Liberals ob- jected to the vote of Wm. Lloyd, cattle dealer, Llangerniew, on the ground of non-payment of rates.—The Assistant-overseer said that Lloyd had paid his rates on May 6th.-—Mr D. Jones understood that the man had only given the assistant-overseer a promissory note for the amount, and that would not discharged the rate. -The Assistant-overseer said he had arranged with the man, and had given a receipt for the rates.—Mr Bryan: That is a discharge.—The Barrister: He has a receipt for his rates. The vote is allowed.—In the parish of Llanddoget, William Roberts, School-house, was struck off the list on the objection by the Liberals that he had not occupied sufficiently long.—Mr B. Lloyd, manager of the Llanrwst branch of the National Baak of Wales, claimed through the Liberals an occupation vote, which was allowed.—Mr Lloyd, manager Printing Office, Denbigh-street, Llanrwst, claimed a ser- vice vote, to which the Liberals successfully objected.—The Rev T. Tudno Jones, through the Conservatives, claimed a lodger's vote, and there being no objection it was allowed.—The claim of the Rev John Davies, curate, Llanrwst, was dis- allowed on the objection of the Liberals ;as also was the claim of the Rev David Morgan, Capel Garmon.—The claim of the Rev David Jones, the new rector of Llangerniew, on the ownership list, was allowed, as was also a similar claim by Mr J. R. Jones, Berthddu, the parties being res- pectively a Conservative and a Liberal.—The Liberals objected to the ownership claim of Mi George Randolph Ashley, J.P., and the objection was sustained without a protest. Mr Ashley also claimed an occupation vote in respect of premises at Ty Plant shed and offices, held of his father. The rent being only £ 7, Mr Ashley could not claim under division o x (County Council votes), but was transferred to division two (Parliamentary).—Several objections on both sides on the ground of non-payment of rates were 'sustained.—In the parish of Llan- gerniew the names of several ofMrSandbach workmen tenants were transferred from division one to division two. The result of the contested claims was largely in favour of the Liberals.—It was mentioned that notice of objection had been served by the Conservatives upon occupation voters in Eglwysbach on account of the omission of successively from their claims. It appears that the assistant-overseers called upon those objected to so as to procure amended claims. The Conservative agent complained of the assistant-overseer's conduct.-The Barrister upheld the action of the assistant-overseer, and said he had only acted as he ought to have done. All the assistant-overseers were granted the same allowances as last year. RUTHIN. The Hon C. R. Grosvenor sat at Ruthin on Saturday to revise the lists of voters for the several parishes in the district and borough.—Mr Gwilym Parry appeared for the Liberals, and Messrs C. E. Jones and B. Bryan for the Con- servatives.—The business was of an uninteresting character. DENBIGH. The Hon C. R. Grosvenor, the barrister ap- pointed to revise the lists of voters for the county of Denbigh, was occupied at the County Hall, on Monday, in revising the lists for the borough. The Liberals were represented by Mr Gwilym Parry, and the Conservatives by Mr William Jones.—The Liberals objected to Thomas Henry Hughes, jun., coach builder, Vale-street, on the ground that he was not a joint occupier with his father. Mr Hughes said his son and he became joint tenants in November, 1889. He produced the agreement, and in reply to ques- tions said another agreement had been entered into since, but there was no alteration in the tenancy. The vote was allowed, with 2s 6d expenses.—The Conservatives objected to the Rev Hugh Owen, Wesleyan minister, on the ground that he occupied his house by virtue of his office as minister. Mr Parry contended that it was not compulsory for him to live in the house in question, and the barrister said te should allow the vote.—bamuel Jones, Lofe- lane, was struck off the list, on the objection of the Liberals on the ground that his wrfc had received medical relief, she being a pauper inmate at the asylum.—Owen Evans, Abram's- lane, was, on a similar objection, by hie Con- servatives, also struck off, the wife in chis case being at the Infirmary at the expeise of the parish.—Mr Ellis Williams, borough sccountant, boY the Conservatives on the ground that the qualifying premises were not of sufficient value but even- tually the vote was avowed. — The Liberals objected to Mr Parry, iate partner of Mr Ellis Williams on the same ground on which Mr Williams had been objected to and, further, that he had left during the qualifying year. The vote was disallowed.—Mr Guy Francis, solicitor, on the application of the Conservatives. obtained a lodger vote.—Mr S. T. Roberts, National School master, claimed a lodger vote on the ground thathejpaid 7s 6d per week for the use of rooms atthe school house. It appeared that Mr Roberts had the house as schoolmaster, but let it to Mr Benjamin Smith, from whom be retook the rooms in question. The Barrister You cannot make yourself a lodger in your own house, they lodge with you, and not you with them. The claim was disallowed.—Thomas F Evans, Trosypa-c, claimed a lodger vote on the ground that he paid £50 per annum for the use of rooms at Trosyparc. As it appeared that Mr Evans had not occupied the rooms for a sufficient Jeriod, the claim was disallowed.—Edward Moses ones, bookbinder, was objected to by the Con- servatives on the ground that the house he occupied as a dwelling-house was simply a shop. His name was struck off.There were no other cases of interest in the borough. I DENBIGH DISTRICT. In the afternoon, the lists for the parishes of Aberwheeler, Llanrhaiadr, Llandyrnog, Wygfair and Cefn, Llansannan, Llanefydd, Denbigh, and Henllan were taken, Mr Gwilym Parry again appearing for the Liberals, and Mr J. P. Lewis, solicitor, and Mr B. Bryan for the Conservatives. The business generally was of a formal nature, numerous claims and objections being made by both sides.-In the parish of Llanefydd, Mr Thomas Salusbury claimed to be on the register in respect of Plasynllan, which he occupied. The Conservatives objected on the ground that the property belonged to John Salusbury, who was the assistant-overseer of the parish. The latter said the place was his, but his brother took it from him two years ago, and he had since lived with his brother as a lodger. The vote was disallowed, Mr Bryan stating that it was an attempt to get two votes for the same property.—On the objection of theJConservatives, the name of Mr J. Herbert Lewis, chairman of the Flintshire County Council,was struck off the ownership list of Aberwheeler.-Mr T. R. Wynne, Corwen, claimed a vote in respect of a quarry be owned at Llanrhaindr, and the vote was allowed, Mr Wynne protesting against the reckless objections'' made by the Liberals. ABERGELE. The lion. R. Cecil Grosvenor attended at Abergele, on Tue-day, to revise the lists for the several parishes of Abergele. St. George, Llan^ fairtalhaiarn, Llanddulas, Bettws, Llanelian, Eirias, and Llandrillo (Colwyn Bay). Mr J. P. Lewis (Denbigh), Mr Bryan (Ruthin), Mr J. Berhard (Colwyn Bay), and Mr J. fR. Roberts (El Tab, Pensarn), were tor the Conservatives; Mr Gwilym Parry (Denbigh) and Mr Jeffrey TboTias (Colwyn Bay) for the Liberals. Several cases cropped up in which the wife was rated though the husband lived with her, and in each case the barrister held that the husband was entitled to his vote unless very strong evidence was forthcoming to the contrary. The claim of Mr Owen Owen, Bryndowsi, Conway, as owner of Dingle View, Colwyn Bay, was allowed.—Mr Owen: Who is to pay me? I want half a sovereign and my railway fare.—The Barrister: I can't make you any allowance. You made a claim, and you were bound to eome and prove It.-Mr Owen: Well, I did (laughter).

MB GLADSTONE AND THE LANCASHIRE I DIALECT. In a recent communication, acknow- ledging the receipt of a copy of •« A Blegburn Dickshonary," by "Turn o' Dick o' Bobs," Mr Gladstone says-" Thank you very much for sending me your specimens of a dialect full of interest to me, and which in the south-west of the county T could myself at one time speak in perfection. I think the different parts of the I county include much variation of speech. The words throtch (thrust) and stow (of a horse that not get on) were familiar to me I do not hnd them in your book In a further communication to the author, Mr Gladstone (who hhd overlooked the two words mentioned by him) shows himself to be quite an authority on the whole matter. The question is, what matter is he not an authority on, from Homeric J synchronism to fruit preserving ? r

VALLEY (HOLYHEAD) PETTY SESSIONS. MONDAY, SEPTKMBRB 14TH.—Before Major- General Hughes (chairman), Griffith Williams, Esq., Rev John Richards, H. H. Williams, Esq., T. Forcer Evans, Esq., J. Moreton Pritchard, Esq., and Dr Edwards. LICENSING SESSIONS,—The annual brewster sessions were held in connection with the ordinary petty sessions, when all the licences were renewed. In the case of the Holland Arms, Llanfachraeth, Superintendent R. D. Davies stated that this was the only place objected to, but he would leave the case entirely in the hands of the bench.—Mr Laurie did not appear to oppose the case.—The grounds of objection was that the landlord or owner had made some alterations without submitting the plans to the bench.—The Clerk (Mr J. Lloyd Griffith) said that such a course was not necessary, as the law did not make this im- perative.—Mr T. R. Evans appeared for the defence.—The licence was granted.-The esses of the Market Tavern and Holyhead Packet, Holyhead, were adjourned to Holyhead Petty Sessions.—Mr Moreton Pritchard, Market- street, appeared for the applicants. A SOLDiltles DRUNKEN FMAK.—Detective- Inspector Pearson, RailwayCompany, Holyhead, charged Frederick Johnsoif, a private in the Bast Surrey regiment, Tipperary, with stealing a brush and comb on September 9th.-P.C. William Davies, platform constable, deposed that on the day in question prisoner was admitted into the lavatory at the railway station, after which witness had occasion to go eway. On visiting the place again he missed the brush and comb and suspected the accused. He accordingly gave information to the detec- tive department.—A. T. Goddatd, Chester, a detective in the employ of the railway com- pany, deposed that on Thursday he vas on duty at Chester, and from telegraphic information received, be interviewed the accused in a third- class carriage. Prisoner produced the brush, remarking that he had lost his bag on the passage across the channel and he thought that he would have something in return, adding that he (prisoner) had been drinking.—John Pearson, detective-inspector, Holyhead, proved charging prisoner at Chester, to which he replied, I have nothing to say only that I was drunk at the time."—It also transpired that the accused was in company with a number of other soldiers who had received orders to go to India, and were going home on furlough. On board the steamer the greater number of the 60 soldiers had been drinking, the accused losing sight of his luggagi at Holyhead. This, it was alleged, exasperated him, and in a drunken freak he took the articles produced. He (accused) was said to be very respectably connected, and the company did not press the charge as he had been in custody five days already.—Prisoner ex- pressed his regret, and said it was due to drink and the loss of his clothing, valued £1, on the voyage.-Major-General Hughes said that it was very sad to see a young man in such a pre- dicament, but as the company did not press the case and nothing was heard against him from his superior officers, he would be sent to gaol for only seven days with hard labour. ALLEGED ASSAULT.—Hugh Williams, 4, Chapel-street, Rhydwyn, versus Lewis Edward Williams, of Bodwyn. Llanrhyddlad.—Mr R. E. Prichard appeared for the prosecution, and Mr E. G. Roberts for the defence.-This W!1S a case of assault arising out of the other cases of assault from Rhydwyn which excited so much interest at the last petty sessions, when the present case was adjourned for a month. In the interim, the case had been settled by mutual consent, the bench sanctioning the arrangement. ALLEGED PARENTAL NEGLECT.—John R. Parry, relieving-officer, on behalf of the Holy- head Guardians, summoned Hannah Jones Ty'nyffordd, Elim, Llanddeusant, for wilfully neglectingher children.-The case was adjourned for a month. THE DBINK.-P.C. David Jones, Gwalchmai, charged Robert Roberts, Caerellen, Llanfihangel- yn-nhowyn, with being drunk and disorderly on the 15th August.—Defendant did not appear, and a warrant was issued.-P.C. Edward Prichard, Rhydwyn, charged William Jones, potter, Llangefni, with a similar offence com- mitted at Llanrhyddlad, on August 13th. The case was dismissed on payment of costs as was also the charge brought by P.C. Richard Thomas, Bodedern, against Owen Edwards, Back-street, of the same village, with being drunk on a recent occasion.-P.C. William Jones, Aberffraw, sum- moned John Jones, alias Shon G 1" Llangwyfan, for drunkenness. The accused did not appear, and a warrant was issued for his apprehension. NON-MAINTENANCE OF PARENT.—Richard Parry, relieving-officer, Aberffraw, sued William Hughes, Rachub, near Bangor, for the non- maintenance of his mother.-An order for 2s per week was made. DISOBDEBLT' BEHAVIOUR AT RHITDWTN P.C. Edward Prichard, Rhydwyn, summoned Hugh Jones, Tymawr, Llanrhyddlad, with being drunk at Rhydwyn, and also with disorderly conduct.—Mr R. E. Prichard appeared for the defence,-A fine of 5s and costs was imposed. Edward Williams, Cefn Leisiog, Llanrhydd- lad, was charged by P.C. Edward Prichard with similar conduct.—Mr R. E. Prichard defended -Fined 5s and costs or'14 days' imprisonment. AFFILIATION CASES.—Mr T. R. Evans and Mr E. G. Roberts appeared in two affiliation cases. In the Holyhead case, an order was made for 2s per week.

THE HARVEST IN ANGLESEY. — The farmers are very busy with harvest operations in Angle- sey, the weather being on the whole favourable, although there are occassional showers. As the farmers ware busy, the fair at Llangefni on Tuesdi: y was very small. The cattle were selling very slowly tlnd for lower prices than at the previous fairs, while the horses were about the same

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THE YOUNG MEN'S ASSOCIATIONS MOVE- MENT IN WALES. I To the Editor. 1 SIR,-I crave your kind indulgence to explain briefly the principal aims and objects of the Y.M.A. movement. Mr Lewis D. Roberts attempted to do this through the medium of the Ilerald some weeks ago, but omitted some of the most important objects. His letter was such as to call trom the district secretary of the Y.M.C.A. a letter suggesting an amalgamation of the two movements on the ground that their objects were in common one with another. Mr Roberts in his letter said that the objects of the Y.M.A., briefly stated, were to secure rooms on neutrel grounds where the members could have free intercourse for mutual profit; to provide free libraries, lectures, and classes. These are certainly commendable and praiseworthy objects, but they are such as are carried out by the Y.M.C.A., and such as would not warrant the starting of the Y.M.A. movement for their achievement. But the Y.M.A. movement aims at something higher, and by dint of energy and perseverance hopes, ere long, to accomplish the following objects: 1. To promote independent national opinion in Wales by means of associations which will pro- vide rooms where young men can meet on neutral grounds for purposes of debate and otherwise for moral and intellectual culture. 2. To establish libraries in connection with such associations. 3. To arrange university extension and other lectures in connection witii those associations on topics of general interest and utility. 4. The cultivation of Welsh art, literature, and music by forming evening classes, when those subjects shall be taught. 5. The organisation of home reading in connection with the Welsh Home Reading Union. 6. Acquaintance with Welsh antiquities. We felt that literary and debating societies, Bible classes, Sunday School libraries, and other kindred institutions, accomplished the objects of an association such as the V.M.C.A. We needed something more—that something which would constrain the sons of Wales to awaken to a sense of their serious yet glorious responsibilities; that something which would lead them to do noble and valiant service in their country's cause; and with national fervour glowing in our hearts we founded the Y.M.A. It will be seen that the movement is a thoroughly national one, and claims as one of its objects to establish and foster the doctrine that the Welsh people are a nation. The Y.M.C.A. may aim at and succeed in meeting the physical, social, intellectual, moral, and spiritual welfare of its members, but it affords no opportunities for the exercise of the loyal and patriotic feelings and sentiments which young Welshmen enter- tain towards their country. Another object which the promoters of the Y.M.A. movement have adopted is that of the organisation of home reading classes for the study of Welsh literature. As Principal T. F. Roberts, of Aberystwytb, has said we caunot think with pride of the past of our country unless we read her literature,and experience proves that young Welshmen require Ktiuinius and encouragement in their reading. The stimulus they will get from reading and studying the works of our best authors. And we trust ere long to be able to go through the courses of the Welsh Home Reading Union and thereby study the beauties of the literature of our country. To quote from Mr L, D. Roberts's letter, to which I have alluded, The young men of Wales should make eveiything subser- vient to the welfare and emancipation of our beloved country. If that should be the outcome of the movement it will assist the Welsh people to take their destined place among the nations of the world. And I cannot but feel that if we keep the above-named objects in view, we shall soon bring about what Mr Roberts desires. By carrying out the objects of the Y.M A. movement as above stated the youths of Wales will be enabled to be true to Wales, think nobly and work bravely for her glorious future. At the same time they will receive that polish and culture Iwhich will enable them to go out into the world and not be ashamed of their nation- ality. Be assured," writes Principal Roberts, that there is no more crying need in Wales to- day than the uplifting of the life of our young mea." A. IVOR PARRY, Hon. Sec. Y.M.A. Federation. I Llyslvor, Pwllheli.

CARNARVON FIRS BRIG IDE. To the Editor. SIR, In the account of the monthly meeting of the council, held on the 1st inst., Councillor Gregory made several statements respecting the efficiency (or otherwise) of the fire brigade. Councillor Gregory said that for the last two years they had been waiting for plans to show were the water plugs were, and John Griffith and Thomas Hughes, who were supposed to know something about them, were entirely in a fog. There was not a single member of the brigade who knew where the plugs were." Councillor R. R. Williams, who had charge of the brigade for 20 yeus, said otherwise. Several members got up. when Councillor Gregory asked that he he allowed to explain. He said that when he took the brigade out, about twelve months ago, not one of the men, not even John Griffith and Thomas Hughes, knew where the hydrants were, and thereupon it was decided to have plans showing where the hydrants were. Councillor R. LI. Jones could bear him out in this statement. I may be a bit green, but not green enough to bear out Councillor Gregory's statement that John Griffith, the waterman, and Thomas Hughes, his assistant (who have been constantly employed in tapping mains, examining sluices and hydrants for 20 years), do not know where these sluices and hydrants are located. R. LL JONES. Carnarvon, 10th September, 1891. [This letter was crowded out last week.- ED.].

WEST MERIONETH MONTHLY MEETING. THE West Merioneth Monthly Meeting was held at Peniel, Festiniog, on Monday and Tuesday last, the Rev. John Williams, B.A., in I _1_ me cnair. At tne niormng meeting the pamphlet prepared by Mr Roberts. St Asaph, was discussed, but no resolution thereon was adopted. The Rev. David Evans, M.A delivered an able address on the Priesthood of Christ," followed by a free discussion upon the same subject.-At the afternoon meeting a letter of introduction to tha Rev. Robert Williams, B.A., from the New York Association was read.—The Rev. D. O'Brien Owen asked for a letter of transfer to the Arvon Monthly Meeting, which was granted.—It was decided to hold the next Monthly Meeting at Towyn, October 12th and loth.—The following peraons were appointed to represent the Monthly Meet- ing at the opening ceremony of Bala College :— Rev. Samuel Owen, Rev. Evan Roberts, Rev. Robert Owen, M.A., Mr Edward Griffith, J.P., and Mr Owen Owen, Penrhyndeudraeth.—The Rev. Gwynoro Davies gave an account of what had been done to clear the debt remaining on the English chapel, Barmouth, and the following resolutions s'were unanimously and enthusiastically adopted—(1) That this meet- ing tenders its sincerest thanks to Mr Robert Davies, Bodlondeb, for his generous action in paying off the debt of the Barmouth English chapel. (2) That this meeting desires to express its appreciation of the great services rendered by the Rev. Gwynoro Davies in organising and bringing to such a successful issue the bazaar recently held at Barmouth. by which the friends there were enabled to remove a substantial sum of their heavy debt."—It was decided that the Spring Association should be held at Traws- fynydd, the|27th, 28th, and 29th of April, 1892.— The 19th of October next was set apart as a day of thanksgiving for the harvest.—The following persons were appointed to act on the Tune Book Committee-Messrs O. O. Roberts, Dol- efelley; H. LI. Jones, Corris Edward Williams, Festiniog; Joseph Thomas, Barmouth; Evan Jones, Bhiw; and Thomas Williams, Croesor.

POOR LAW RELIEF IN THE WORKHOUSE AND OUTSIDE. [FROM AN OCCASIONAL CONTRIBUTOR.] THE subject of relief to the poor is one of paramount importance to all classes, seeing that to some extent it affects all persons—men, women, and children-Dot only the poor who e necessities may compel them to seek pars!) relief, but also those of every class who pay such relief in the shape of poor rates. It is not my intention at present to enter into any historical disquisition on the origin of the poor rate further than to remark that when the rich endowments ot the abbey and monastery lands, out of which the poor were provided for at one time, spread liberally all over the three kingdoms, were handed over, with the sanction of a cringing and corrupt Parliament, to private individuals by King Henry VIII., it wes found absolutely necessary in the subsequent reign of Queen Elizabeth to make some permanent provision for the destitute poor. The pillory, whipping, licences to beg, and other cruel practices, had been resorted to in vain to extirpate the poor or to drive them away, and her well-known exclama- tion, on behold) ag the crowds of beggars which everywhere met her view, that the poor cover the land," became historical. Subsequent Acts of Parliaments constituted boards of guardians, united parishes in unions, enabled the overseers of the poor in such parishes to levy rates for the relief of the poor on the occupiers of property, and empowered the guardians to build workhouses, and constituted the guardians the sole judges as to whether applicants for relief on account of destitution should be paid a certain sum of money per week in their own houses (called out-relief"), or should have relief in the work- house only (called in-door relief "). Although the guardians cannot forcibly compel any destitute person to enter the house," they may, in the cases of the &c., at their discretion, refuse to give any relief in money, and may direct their relieving officer to supply the person with the barest necessary articles of food to prevent actual btarvation. This two-fold aspect of 'Poor Law relief has recently been called into local prominence by some remarks and figures placed before the board of guardians of the Dolgelley Union by Mr Hugh Owen, one of the guardians for the parish of Dolgelley, on the occasion of the con- sideration by that board of their last half-year's printed accounts, which proceedings were followed by an editorial attack upon his statements in the columns of an Aberystwyth paper, and a subsequent correspondence in that newspaper and the Merioneth News, and the Carnarvon and Denbigh Herald. Mr Hugh Owen's contention appears to be that out-relief is not only a humane treatment of the poor, but that it can be carried out at fully a third less cost to the ratepayers, and that it is also more consonant with the feelings of the great bulk of the Welsh people. As I have had an opportunity of verifying the facts and figures under discussion, I have much pleasure in placing a summary of them before your readers in as concise a form as possible. From the latest returns published under the authority of the Local Government Board, it appears that on the 1st January, 1890, there were 647 unions in England and Wales, with 200,263 in-door and 592,764 out-door paupers, and that the cost incurred in their relief for the year ended 25th March, 1889, amounted to £2,503,838 for out-relief, and £2,445,288 (includ- ing £582,489 for interest and yearly instalment of principal of money borrowed to build the work- houses) for in-door relief. This sum for in- door relief, large as it is, does not represent the whole cost incurred, as, owing to the grouping of items by the Local Government Board.the pro- portion of salaries of workhouse officials, the sums spent in repairing buildings and in fixtures, furniture, &c., are not included, but even this appears to shew that about 25J per cent, of the total number of paupers instead of costing (at the rate of out-relief), about 5s Oid out of every £ spent for the total cost of all relief, actually cost about 73 per cent. of the money, or about 14-.g 7d in every X, and excluding the cost of the workhouses. It is also anything but re- assuring from a financial point of view to con- sider that the interest and instalments of money borrowed to build workhouses are now about six hundred thousand pounds a year and that the principal is about seven. millions, and is every year increasing. These loans are contracted so as to be repayable by instalments over a long period, generally about thirty years, so that for a loan of £10,000, the. public have to pay with interest £20,000 or more, and by this means, the ratepayers do not realise the weight of such burdens nor the ruinous waste of money which auch a traneaction involves. No exact information as to the amount of the public money invested in the building of the work- houses for these 647 unions appears to be avail- able, but probably, with the cost of repairs, furniture, fittings, &c., would reach little short of twenty millions, so that the interest of this money would go a long way towards paying nearly all the relief. Coming to local unions, Mr Hugh Owen gives some interesting facts with reference to Festiniog and Dolgelley, and the result of their experience in the practical working of the Poor Law, both of which unions appear to study and carry out the strictest economy in the management of their workhouses. In the former, the total cost of relief may be expected to be abnormally heavy in consequence of the large number of accidents, disabling some an3 causing the widows and orphans of others to become chargeable to the Union. In Festiniog Union, for the year ended 25th March, 1891, there were 131 in-door and 1739 out-door pauper8, the former costing S1313, and the latter £8203, so that about seven per cent. in-door (at the same rate as out-door) took nearly fifteen per cent of the total cost of relief, or about 2s 11^1 instead of Is 4-!(} in every X, with a total cost (for both in-door and out door) per head on the population of the Union. 27,733. of 6s lOid. For the same period, in the Dolgelley Union, there were 70 in-door and 652 out-door paupers, the former costing £720 and the latter £3218, so that about nine and three-quarters per cent in- door (at the same rate as out-relief) took nearly twenty and a quarter per cent. of the total cost of relief, or about 4s O!d instead of Is llid in every £ with a cost per head on the population, 14,492, of 5s 5d. This, too, in the case of either union, without reckoning the interest in the money spent on each workhouse, say £6000, which at five per cent. would amount to X300 year in each case. The London Unions, where workhouse relief is carried out on a scale of enormous magnitude, and where it should therefore be the cheapest- spending about £700,000 a year in in-door relief- have a cost per head on the population of 10s 8^1, and thus contrast very unfavourably with the Welsh Unions, where out-relief is the rule. These facts appear to deserve careful consideration, and merit the attention of all ratepayers throughout the country.

A MERIONETHSHIRE ELOPEMENT. As we stated a fortnight ago, the village of Dyffryn was thrown into a great state ot excitement last week when it was known that a shopkeeper had eloped with a farmer's daughter from the neighbourhood. The shopkeeper, it seems, left home on the pretence that he was going on a visit to some relations, and the young woman followed him the day after, also on a pretended visit to some relations. They were, however, seen together in the same train on the Great Western Railway bound for Liver- pool thus suspicion was aroused lest they should be leaving the country for some foreign land, where they would be allowed to live together without interference. This was too true, as inquiries proved that they had embarked in a Liverpool steamer for America, and in a day or two afterwards letters were received bV their respective families confirming the intelli- gence, and further informing them that it was their intention never to return to the old country. The shopkeeper, we may add, was a married man, with two young children. He has left his wife to fight the battle of life under the most distressing circumstances, his liabilities in business amounting to several hundred pounds

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7 TANYBWLCH FLOWER AND FRUIT SHOW. THIS interesting, annual show is mainly, if not solely, promoted by Mr and the Hon. Mrs Oakeley, of Tanybwlch Hall, in the picturesque Vale of Maentwrog. It is held with the object of encouraging the cultivation of gardens in the district; and already, the very laudable move- meut has made quite a little Paradise of this naturally beautiful locality. Two now and most useful teatures were introduced into the com- petitions this year, viz., prizes for the best bull and the best bull-calf reared by any tenant on the fauybwlch estate and also further awards for the best sewiug work a>;d attendance in the schools of the village and that of Tynant. On these annual occasions, the scholars are t eated to tea, bunloaf, See., and the Church Choirs 01 Tynant and Maentwrog to a knife and fork tea. The proceedings were rendered all the more interesting by the presence of Mr and the Hon. Mrs Oakeley, Miss Oakeley, the Rector of the parish, Mrs Price, together with several visitors staying in tne neighbourhood. The feasting over, the Rev C. P. Price, M.A., called for a vote of thanks to the generous family of Tanybwlch, and this found the heartiest possible response from those assembled, followed by lusty cheering. Mr Oakeley, in acknowledging the good feehug shown, expressed gratification at finding from the official reports that the money spent upon the schools was not spent in vain, inasmuch as they stood on the liignest list. Subsequently, the children were formed into a long aud picturesque procession, under the superintendence of Miss Davies, head-mistress; Miss J. E. Humphreys, assistant-mistress at 1- Tynant; Mr livans (Llyfadog), head-master, and Mr John Jones, assistuut-master of the village schools. T:.e procession made its way to the show held at Felingod, Tanybwlch, where prizes were distributed to the children by Mrs and Miss Oakeley, assisted hy Mrs Price, of the Rectory. Subsequently, Mr Oakeley presented prizes to the winuers in the various flower, fruit, and other competitions. The room had been very tastefully decorated under the supervision of Mr J. Roberts, head gardener of the Hall, assisted by Mr W. Evans, head-gardener of Brynmawr. The rest of the day was spent in an adjoining field, where athletic and other sports were indulged in. The Festiniog Silver Band did gocd service during the proceedings. The arrangements had been entrusted to a committee, consisting of Mr R. W. Vaughan, of the Estate Office; the Rector; Mr John Humphreys, head-forester; the schoolmasters, and Mr De Hart, barrister, of London. AWARDS. Window plants: 1, W. Metcaife, Fronfair; 2, W. Humphrey s, Cemlyn 3, J. Davies, Lodge. Glandwr flower gardens: 1, John Jones, 4, Gland WI 2, Kichard Roberts, 3 do. Flower gardens, open to all except tenants of Glandwr Cottages: 1, Jatres Williams, Bryn- goleu; 2, William Richards, Police-station; 3, William Metcalfe, Fronfair. Cultivated garden: 1, Robert Ell s, Pen- clogwyn 2, John Jones, 4, Glandwr; 3, Joseph Evans, Storehouse. Collection of flowers: 1, David Davies, Tafarn- trip; 2, Joseph Lewis, Tynant; 3, James Williams. Bryngoleu. Collection of wild flowers 1, James Williams, Bryngoleu 2, Joseph Evans, storehouse. Early kidney potatoes: 1, T. H. Hovendon; 2, Fred Langham 3, Jofeu Morris, Glaslryn. Early round potatoes: 1. John Jones, Glan- dwr; 2, W. Metcalfe; 3, Richard Roberts, Glandwr. Late kidney potatoes: 1, John Jones, Glan- dwr; 2, W. Humphreys, Cemlyn; 3, John Morris, Glasfryn, Late round potatoes 1, Joseph Evans, Store- house; 2, John Jones Glandwr; 3, Frederick Langham. Cabbage: 1, John Jones, Pantclegar; 2, John Morris, Glasfryn; 3, John Blunt. Cauliflowers 1, no award 2. W. Metcalfe; 3, John Jones, 4, Glandwr. Red cabbages: 1, Robert Ellis, Penclogwyn; 2, Owen Griffith, Fronoleu; 3, John Hughes, Pantclegar. Onions: 1, W. Metcalfe; 2, Owen Griffith, Fronoleu 3, Evan Anwyl. Beans in pods: 1, John Blunt; 2, Richard Williams, Fronfair 3, Joseph Evans. Carrots 1, T. H. Hovendon 2, John Blunt; 3, Hugh J ones, Chapel-terrace. Turnips: 1, John Blunt; 2, John Jones, 4, Glandwr 3, John Morris, Glasfryn. Collection of sweet herbs: 1, W. Metcalfe; 2, John Jones, 1, Glandwr; 3, Owen Griffith, Fron- oleu. Lettuce: 1, Owen Griffith, Fronoleu 2, T. H. Horandon. Kidney beans 1, W. Metcalfe 2, Mrs White; 3, Evan Anwyl. Pens in pods 1, John Blunt; 2, Joseph Evans; 3, Joseph Lewis. Radishes: 1, Joseph Evans; 2, W. Metcalfe. Rhubarb: 1, W. Metcaife; 2, David Davies, Tafamtrip. Apples: 1, Owen Griffith; 2, Joseph Lewis; 3, Thomas Wilson. Gooseberries 1, Joseph Lewis 2, John Jones, 1, Glandwr. Plums 1, John Jones, 4, Glandwr 2, Joseph Lewis. BULL-CALF. 1. John T. Jones, eydne-th; 2, Mr Meredith, Tyddyndu. BULL. 1, Griffith Davies, Felinrhyd Fawr.

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KEHSION COURTS. i CARNARV ONSHIRE. I CARNARVON. On Monday morning, Mr Thomas Jones sat at the County HaU, Carnarvon, for the revision of the county and boroucrb lists. Tne Liberals were representee! by Mr K. D. Williams and Mr W.J. Williams, Air George Owen appearing tor the No objections were raised by "ifher side or the county list.—Captain W. Wil- a ize-sqtiare, was objected to on the borough list by the Conservatives. The voter said the house was his own property, and was rented at f22. Vote allowed without costs.— T The Liberals objected to the claim of Messrs Carter »r,d Vincent in respect of joint occupation of their offices. The names were struck off, but that of Mr Vincent was retained on division 3 -The Liberals objected to 24 paupers, and the names were expunged.—R. H. Toleman was objected to by the Liberals, but the vote was allowed without costs,—The vote of William Parry, Castle-ditch, objected to by the Liberals, was also retained without costs. -The Liberals objected to Robert Morris, Edward-street, on the ground that he was co-tenunt with his mother- in-law, with whom he formerly lodged, and that she paid halt the rent. Replying to Mr W. J. Williams, the voter said that his mother-in-law paid something towards the rent, which was made up at the close of the year. There was no agreement as to the figure, and if she paid nothing, she would not be pressed. The Barrister: I will retain the name. but I shall noc allow any costs, as there was sufficient reason to call for an explanation. — Edward Jones, Mill-lane, was objected to by the Liberals, and the vote expunged. -The Conservatives objected to John Kelly, jun., it being alleged that he had given up his tenancy in July. Mrs Kelly was called and proved that the occupation had not terminated on August 8th, and the rote was retained with an allowance of 5s to the witness.-Peter Horan Jones was objected to by the Conservatives, and the vote disallowed.—The sitting was resumed in the evening. J. R. Jones, Pool-lane, was objected to by the Liberals on the ground that it was a joint occupation; vote retained with 3s 6d cc:ts.—Richard Jones, 3, Harding's- court, was objected to by the Liberals on the ground that there was a breach in the tenancy. The vote was allowed.—Robert Roberts, 35, North-pen'rallt, was objected to on similar ground by the Conservatives. Vote allowed with costs.—Robert Roberts, 9, Hole-in-the-wall- street, was objected to by the Conservatives. Mr R H. Rowlands, agent to Mr John Arthur Evans said that the claimant paid the rent, but the tenancy was in the name of Mrs Roberts. "Mrs" was changed into "Mr" on the rent book that morning. The name was expunged.- The vote of J. R. Jones, Castle-street, objected to by the Liberals, was retained, and 58 costs allowed. — Owen Hughes, 2, Moriah-square, objected to by the Liberals, retained his vote, and was granted 3s 6d costs.-Jane Owen, Pool-side, was objected to by the Liberals on the ground that her husband was ajive. Mrs Owen was called, and said that her husband bad been buried at Llanbeblig Churchyard eleven years. -Mr W. J. Williams: My information is that her husband is alive. -Mr George Owen: Perhaps you have seen his ghost (laughter).—Mr Wil- liams: I have never seen a ghost (laughter).— The Barrister: If he is alive after being buried, it is a strange thing (laughter). EIVION. Mr Thomas Jones, revising barrister, held four courts on Friday at Llanaelhaiarn, Chwilog, Brynkir, and Clynnog. Mr George Owen, Car- narvon, appeared for the Conservatives, assisted by Mr J. F. Roberts, Gromlech, and Mr Hugh Evans, Llanaelhaiarn, and Mr W. J. Williams, Carnarvon, represented the Radicals. There were only a few claims and party objections, and the work was of a formal nature. LLANWNDA AND PENYGROES. The revising barrister (Mr Thomas Jones) sat at Llanwnda on Saturday to revise the lists for the parish of Llanwnda. The Conservaties were represented by Mr George Owen, Carnarvon, assisted by Mr T. 0. Roberts, Penygroes, local j secretary; and Mr W. J. Williams, Carnarvon, assisted by Mr W. Jones, Penygroes, appeared for the Radical party.—In the afternoon, a court was held at Penygroes, when the lists for the parishes of Llandwrog and Llanllyfni were revised. The Conservatives made 26 objections and sustained 25, the Radicals made 19 and sustained 16; the Conservatives made nine occupiers' claims and sustained eight, the Radicals made 10 and sustained six; costs paid by the Radicals Ts, costs paid by the Conserva- ties nil. WAENFAWR, &c. On Tuesday, Mr Thomas Jones held courts at Waenfawr, Rhyd-ddu, and other places in the same district. Mr W. J. Williams appeared for Liberals, and Mr George Owen for the Conserva- t..Ã. II've, LLANBERI3 DISTRICT. Mr Thomas Jones, revising barrister, held courts at Llanberis, Cwmyglo, and Bryn'refail, on Wednesday, for the revision of the ui uiauuDiis, uiaurug, and ijlanadein- iolen. Mr George Owen, Carnarvon, appeared for the Conservatives, and Messrs R. D. Williams and W, J. Williams for the Radicals. Through- out the day the Conservatives made 55 objec- tions and sustained 53, and the Radicals made four objections and sustained four. la the afternoon a court was held at PORTDINORWIC for the revision of the lists for the parish of Llanfairisgaer. BANGOR. Mr T.Jones on Thursday sat at Bangor. Mr R D Williams and Mr Huw Rowland represented the Liberals, and Mr G. Owen the Conservatives. The Liberals had 25 claims and 55 objections, and the Conservatives 53 claims and 26 objections.- The Conservatives objected to the ownership claim of Councillor Richard Williams in respect of a house in Dean-street. The objection failed, j costs being disallowed through the non-produc- tion of the deeds.-The Rev T. Edwin Jones one of the vicars of Bangor, claimed tor a ient- charge, Mr Owen stating that he did not sup- port the claim. Mr R. D. Williams rejoined that it had been a very clear attempt at manufactur- ing a vote.—On the borough list, Mr Huw Row- land objected to four members of the coastguard living in Admiralty-place, on the ground that they were service occupiers,-The Liberals objecte3 to Archdeacon John Pryce and Canon Eleazar Williams, who were On the register as joint tenants of the canonry.-The Barrister held that the canons occupied potentially all the year round, and retained the names, Mr Huw Rowland asking for a case.—Mr R. D. Williams Svid hf felt singly that the case should be taken to another court, especially in the tace of a decision given at the Chester court.—The Barrister: Why did you not take a case when the decision was last given ?-Mr R. D. Williams: Because I was then on the poorer side. I felt then, as I feel now, that the matter should have gone before another court. -The Barrister: I am sorry to hear you say that, as you and I generally agree I will give a case if Mr Rowland wishes —Mr Rowland I must ask for one.—The names were I retained, and the barrister allowed each canon 208 costs.

LLANDUD1S0 RACES AND SPORTS. FATAL ACCIDENT TO A MAKE. ON Thursday, the annual races and sports took place in the Commissioners' Field, Ldanduduo. The patrons this year were Lord Mostyn, Colonel Platt, Hon. Ii. Lloyd Mostyn, Mr John Lee-, Dr Bold Williams, Mr George Downing, Mr Edward Brooke, Mr R. S. Chamberlain, Mr George Barker, Dr T. Dalton, Mr J. Adey Wells, Mr A. Firth. Judges, Messrs C. H. Hartley and G. F. Fetton; clerk of the scales, Mr F Booth, M.R.C.V.S.; clerks of the course, IVlesrs Robert Parry, T. O. Owen, and J. W. Rogers; starters, Messrs G. H. Hooper and Owen Brookes; field stewards, Messrs John Owen, William Smith, T. P. Davies, Thomas Wiley, and A. E. Daines; secretary, Mr H. 0. Evans, Kinmel Villa, Adelphi-street. There was a large attendance in the field, probably larger than any previous year. The following was the result of the races — Quarter mile race for men, open to North Wales; first prize, £.3; second, 15s: 1, J. H. Simon; 2, Edward Wynne. An open race for men; distance 200 yards; first prize, i'l Is; second 10s, or value: 1, jW. Symes; 2, William Morgan; 3, W. Thompson. Hackney stakes for horses that have bona-fide plied for hire within 30 miles cf Llandudno, from May 1st to September 17th distance about U mile first prize, £5; second, XI: 1, Emanuel Jone-' Lady Augusta; 2, H. Mellor's Charlie. Pabo Hall stakes (an open steeplechase); distance about 2:t miles; first prize, Xb 5s; second, £1 Is: 1, James Wilson's Tear Away. Trotting race; distance two milei; first prize, E3; second, Xi 1, Frank Madren's Polly 2, J. Edward's Elsie. The Gogarth open stakes for ponies not ex- ceeding 14 hands; distance, It mile first prize, £ 5; second, £1: 1, R. Blakey's Polly; 2, T. Morgan's Sleepy Lass. The Gloddaeth stakes, an open race over eight flights of hurdles; distance about two miles; first prize, £ 10; second, X2: 1, John Parry's Maiden Belle; 2, Emanuel Jones's Lady Augusta. The Creuddyn open stakes, a Galloway race, for horses not exceeding 15 hands distance Ii mile first prize, £4; second, El 1, J. Hamley's Lorna Doone 2, J. Parry's Maiden Belle. The Tradesmen's open stakes; distance It mile for ponies not exceeding 13 hands first prize, X4; second, £1: 1, John Davies' Madam 2, J. W. Watton's Black Tommy. The Mostyn stakes, an open steeplechase distance 2t miles; first prize, £10 j second, £2 1, John Parry's Maiden Belle 2, James Wilson's Tear Away. Tbe Craigydon stakes, distance, 1 £ mile for horses that have never won a race, property of owners residing within the district of the Llan- dudno Improvement Commissioners; firit prize, £3; seeond, 10s 6d: 1, Henry .Mellor's Charlie 2, John Phillips's Comet. A lamentable accident occurred during the j0r the Mostyn stakes. Three horses started, including the two named under the heading, and Tudno Lass, a well-known seven- year-old racer, belonging to Mr R )bert Roberts, Penmynydd. She was ridden by Mr E. Tapling, the distance being 2t miles, or five times passed the winuing post. Maiden Belle led all the way up to the fourth time of approaching the winning post, when Tudno Lass forked forward and overtook Maiden Belle, and the two lsapt the water jump in front of the grand stand, neck to neck. After performing the feat, the mare rolled over, the rider managing to disentargle himself. He at once remounted, when the animal was seen to raise its near hind leg and would not put it on the groaotf. The rider came down and the mare was examiiygd by Mr Booth, the veterinary surgeon, who pronounced that the near hind leg had broken above the fetlock, and that the animal would never be of any further use. He advised its speedy destruction. The mare was led to a side of the field, and Mr Booth stabbed her in the neck, and she bled profusely. After this a pitiable sight ensued. The poor creature kept kicking and lifting its head up, and attempted to rise several times, and she was in this condition nearly three-quarters- of-an-hour before life was extinct. There were many cries of "Shame" at the unfortunate animal being kept in agonies for such a length of time, and inquiries made why the mare was not at once shot. With this exception the races were a great success and highly interesting. Mr H. 0. Evans, the secretary, discharged his duties in the usual creditable manner, and the whole officers as well as the rest of the com- mittee worked assiduously to make the sports worthy of Llandudno.

LLEYN AND EIFIONYDD AGRI- CULTURAL SOCIETY. erroi s having cropped into our report of of the annual show lrst week, at Pwllheli, we publish to-day a corrected list. DOGS. Welsh terrier dogs: 1, M. T. Morris, Carnarvon, and W. S. Glynn, Criccieth 3, Jackson Dron- field, Bethesda. Welsh bitches 1, W. S. Glynn, Criccieth 2 Majllr Savage, Bangor; 3, Percy Roberts, Chester. Welsh terriers (puppies), dogs or bitches, under 12 mouths old: 1 Ellis Owen Ellis. Pwll- heli, nnd Jackson Droufield, Bethesda 2, J, H. Williams, Bangor, and Major Savage, Bangor. Setters, dogs or bitches: t, R. H. Pritchard, Bangor; 2. W. C. Whiskin, Carnarvon. Pointers, dogs or bitches: 1, J. Mitchell, Bangor; 2, Mrs George Lloyd Edwards, Nan- horon. Retrievers, dogs or bitches: 1, J. Mitchell, Bangor; 2, Miss M. Lloyd Edwards, Nanboron. Sheep dogs, rough-coated, dogs: 1 and 3 T. E. Owen, Llandudno; 2, Frank S. Parsons, Carnai von. Sheepdogs, rough-coated, bitches: 1 and 2 T. E. Owen, Llandudno; 3, Hugh Thomas and John Owen, Llandudno. Sheepdogs, smooth-coated, dogs or bitches: 1, W. Morgan Jones, Waenfawr; 2, T. E Owen • 3, W. Roberts, Caeaugwynion. English fox terriers, dogs or bitches: 1 T B Lloyd. Newtown 2, M. T. Morris, Carnarvon. Terriers of any breed not before mentioned 1. Fred Taylor, Bethesda; 2, Percy Roberts Chester 3, W. Thomas, Llanieatyn. Any other variety not before mentioned: 1 and 3, T. E. Williams, Portdinorwic; 2, Sergeant Wilkinson, Bangor.

LORD SELBORNE AND WELSH DISESTABLISHMENT. THE Ettrl of Selborne has addressed the follow- ing to Mr Joseph Ellarby, of Carlisle, with reference to the subject of Welsh disestablish- ment:- Blackmoor, Petersfield, September 12th, 1891. Sir,—The agitation for disestablishment in Wales means, of course, the general disestablish- ment of the Church of England and nothing else, it being apparently thought more easy to succeed by dividing the operation, and taking Wales first. There is no separate Church in Wales (as there was in Ireland and is in Scotland), but only four diocese of the Church of England, the most ancient and (from their representation of the early British Church) certainly not the least interesting. I have treated the subject in the concluding chapter of my book in defence of the Church of England against disestablishment and disenlowment,and cannot therefore now do more than refer you to what I have there said, and to what Mr Glad- stone said in 1870, which is quoted there. These diocese are not confined to Wales. One of them (Llandaff) includes Monmouthshire Eleven whole parishes in Shropshire and part of three others, and one in Cheshire are in another (St. Asaph). On the other hand fourteen Welsh parishes and part of another are in the English diocese of Hereford, and part of the parish in the English diocese of Lichfield is also Welsh. As to the countenance given by Mr Gladstone to this movement I prefer not to say what I think. You ask me whether I think there is any chance of its being successful if English Church- men generally resist it as becomes those who care for their Church (for so I interpret your words). 1 am no prophet, and in this and some other things I may perhaps give my country- men credit for knowing the value of the good institution which they have inherited from their ancestors, beyond what the event (which is in the hands of God) may justify but I can say with confidence that if English Churchmen do their duty they have power to prevent the success of this movement, and of all that would follow its success against the Church and I should hope that their resistance will be con- ducted in a manner more worthy of the Christian name than the attacks.—I remain, sir, your obedient servant, SBLBOBNB.

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THE TONIC SOL-FA JUBILEE. MR ELEAZAR ROBERTS, LIVERPOOL, AND THE SYSTEM IN WALES. MR ROBERT J. LLOYD, secretary of the Port- madoc Tonic Sol-fa Committee, wrote, on behalf of the committee, to Mr Eleazar Roberts, Liver- pool, inviting him to the Jubilee Celebration held last Monday at Portmadoc. Mr Roberts sent the following reply, which we translate:- Preswyila, Hoy. ake, August 21st. "Dear Sir,-I am very jrry that I cannot be with you in your meetings to celebrate the jubilee of the tonic sol-fa. You can rest assured that I feel an interest in the success of the system, inasmuch as I have had the privi- lege to be the first to bring it to the notice of the Welsh people. There are over 30 years since that time. I be™an to work in a very un- pretending way with a number of Sunday School children without imagining that that small begirning would issue in such results. I published lessons en the system afterwards in Y Cerddor, then Hymns and Tunes for Children (six parts by this), and after them The Hand Booh which was the only lesson book in the Welsh language for years. I also had the privilege of lectu.ing in some of the principal towns in Wales on the system, but not at Portmadoc, most unfortunately and it spread like wild fire. It is likely that the sol-fa has not spread anywhere so quickly and thoroughly as in Wales. I look back with pleasure to that laboar, and especially to that labour in the classes to teach young Welsh people in Liverpool and districts, and I am very sure the teachers of the system will agree with me that it is very pleasing to teach the elements of music according to the tonic sol-fa system. Will you, in closing my letter, allow me to give a word of advice. Perhapt I am not entirely without an authority to give advice on the matter. First, whilst working to teach musical pieces towards concerts and e-steddfodau, &c., never on any account neglect tie young to read music through the advantageous system that is in your hands. The classes to teach, the elements are those which have done the greatest good after all. Secondly, keep your eyt continually on the ultimate object of the system-the object that John Curwen had when he be2..n to labour with singing; the great object thtt the late leuan Gwyllt had; and certainly the great object I had when labouring with the system years ago,-that object is enabling tht many to read music so that they can fulfil tueir part worthily in the praise of God in public worship. There are other and very good object? to be reached that I shall now not notice. But do not forget the great object. I wish every success in your meetings,—I am, Aic., "ELKAZA.R ROBEBIS."

A CHESS CLUB FOR CARNARVON. To the Editor. SIB,—I desire (with your kind permission) to make it known that a oheos club has been formed in this town in connection with the Conservative Club. Though it only was formed at the com- mencement of this year, if it continues to pro- gress as it is doing already it will be a great success this next wiuter. The members are desirous to play matches in the winter months, therefore I will be pleased to hear from the secretaries of any chess club who will arrange to rlay a match with us, I would also be pleased to near from any chess players in Carnarvon who would join a scratch team from the town to play against us. This club was formed with the object of encouraging chess, and such being the object, you will see the reason of our wanting to play a match against chess players from Carnarvon. I may mention that a few gentlemen have already promised.—Your faithfully, HUGH E. JONES. 23, Segontium-terrace, Carnarvon.