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CORRESPONDENCE. THE DUTY OF CHURCHES AND PREVAILING EVILS. TO THE EDITOR OF THE SOUTH WAT.ES STAR. DEAR SIR,—I do not believe that the informant of your contemporary as to how clubs arc formed is strictly correct, especially as regards the atti- tude of the deacons of the several places of worship in the town. In case his statements were true of any member or members who profess to follow Christ, the best course would have been to see such person individually, and then deal'with him according to the New. Testament method. Has the tradesman who supplied the information and who endeavours to "leftd a Christian life." taken any steps to bring this serious matter before* the erring members themselves, or even taken the trouble to ascertain whether or not these persons are holding the high and responsible office of deacons ? If not, this gentleman's Christianity is a poor imita- tion of the Master's, and leave?, I am afraid, little to choose between himself and the accused. It is a great pity that any man, for the sake of filthy lucre, should countenance, by his presence or otherwise, the heart-breaking, home-destroying, and soul-condemning institutions, which, forsooth, go to-day under the delusive name of social and working-men's clubs. Still, it is a greater pity and an unpardonable sin on the part of any church to allow such person, know- ingly, to be in communion and permit his name to remain in the church roll, without becoming an accomplice, and lending his influence and patronage to this abomin- able business and in every way sharing its grave responsibilities. The divine injunction on this and other points is emphatic, and the duty of the Christian Church clear. Wherefore come ye out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch no unclean thing." Wholesale charges made in secular papers on the information (as far as the churches are concerned) of an un- known and irresponsible person, are not sufficient grounds for any church to take a definite action. However, the attention called to the matter may lead to some heart searching- amongst members of Christian churches which will cer,ainly do us no harm. While Christians belonging to all sections of the church are unanimous in declaring that the drink traffic in its present multifarious forms (public-houses, grocers' licenses, and shebeens) constitutes one of the most formidable foes of the holy and pure religion of Christ, yet we are far from believing that this is the only obstacle that Christianity and Christian churches have to contend with. In my opinion, there are other sins prevalent in the district which are as hateful to God and injurious to the progress of spiritual work. The insatiable craving for wealth, reckless speculations, misleading and un- truthful advertisements, constant misrepresenta- tions. perpetual bickering, mean and dishonest transactions, both in secular and sacred things, are equally detestable in those who call themselves the followers of Christ, and whose characters are supposed to be moulded and shaped by the teaching and the spirit of the Gospel. I hope that we shall, in and out of season, do all we can to stamp out the tide of intemperance, which seriously threatens to swamp the whole district; but, while applying our- selves to this k:nd of work. we cannot overlook other evils which are equally hateful because they assume a different form. and are condoned by some people.—Thanking you for your efforts in this! direction, I am, &«.. L. TON EVANS. Cadoxton, February 24. 1892. BRITAIN'S EARLY FAITH. TO THE EDITOR OP THE SOUTH "WALES KTAR. SIR,-Although rather late in the day, I should be glad if you would allow me to make a few re- marks on the article which appeared under the above heading in the Star of the 5th ultimo. Your contributor, "Aliquis." may be. and, I think, is a scholarly and cultured man in most respects, but the best of us may have a weak side, and I hope '-Aliquis'' will excuse me for paying that antiquarian lore is not ins strong point. As an authority on the subject of the history of the Welsh Church." we are told. Mr. Willis Bund's name stands deservedly high." The fact is that, so far from standing high, it staiads nowhere at all. There are Welsh lawyers who think Mr. Bund a good lawyer. There are Welsh politicians (not many) who think him a good politician, but that any 'Welsh antiquarian ever suspected him of hav- ing an acquaintance with Welsh antiquities, I most emphatically deny. All his speculations in such subjects rest on the assumption, expressed or implied, that old Welsh records are a concoction of lies from beginning to end. For instance, when Welsh historians tell us that certain Cymric princes did so-and-so, Mr. Bund takes it quietly for granted that these statements arc mere patriotic fibs, and that the thiiur was done by the Normans (see his lecture on "The Foundation of Welsh Monastic Houses.") Not only the Liber Lrtndarenxis, but the Jiruti/ the very Triads them- aelves stand 'convicted as clumsy forgeries when subjected to the eagle glance of Mr. Willis Bund and, in short, he assumes that everything happened, not by any means in the way ancient documents tell us it happened, but exactly in the way he (Mr. Willis Bund) thinks it ought to have happened.. Still, I think Aliquis must be making a mis- take when he represents Mr. Bund as talking about an ancient Welsh or Church," just as if the two terms were synonymous. Mr, Bund is hardlv so bad as that but he exposes his super- ficiality at an early stage by stopping to take notice of the statement that the old IVelth Church is in any historical sense four dioceses of the Pro- vince of Canterbury. Whoever said or dreamt it was Possibly some paid-Church Defence lecturer, who has got his story by rote, may talk such rub- bish to an ignorant crowd, but arclncology and history proper cannot take such sciolists seriously.. So Mr. Bund hesitated to say boldly that British Christianity came from Africa, did he ? He must he losing his pristine courage. Judging from his past utterances. I should not have been much sur- -prised had he declared that it came from the sub- merged continent of Atlantis. No standard his- torian has the least doubt as to where our Chris- tianity came from, but there are always people who have a sort of home-made sectarian history of their own, and now that their Eastern theory has bees, completely exploded, it is time to give them a Western one. Let us try Atlantis. African Christians, like St. Cyril and St. Augustine, wer* too manifestly Romish for our present purpose. And so Mr. Bund calls the old Celtic Church 'Goidelic. He did not say the Welsh Church was, 'did he I That would mean that the Welsh people themselves had nothing to do with it, and that it Was the Church of a small body of conquerors— strangers in the land. I suppose few of your readers are ignorant of the fact taat Goidel, Gadhael. Gael, orGwyddel simply means Irishman. When the Goidelic race over ran Britain, part of them crossed into Ireland, another part which -afterwards was forced to take the former course, remained in So-.ith Wales for ages as a dominant race but the conquered Silures and other tribes of Iberic origin always formed the bulk of the population" here. Later on thaCymry, coming from that northern part, where Mr. Bund says only tke Gospel of the sword was offered, came southward, and in their turn conquered the Goidels, driYing them first into the part of Dyfed, now balled Pembrokeshire. Eventually most of them it would appear, were glad to seek out their kindred in Ireland. So if Mr. Bund says the old Welsh Church was Goidelic he must be taken to mean that neither the ancient inhabitants of Wales iior the Cymry who followed the Goidels had any direct connection with it in the earliest times. Before Wales was much more than half christianised it was completely cut off from the Catholic Church in the Continent and the centre of Christianity by a great wedge of heathendom. This presented anything like proper organisation being carried out in the British Church for centuries, and the explanation of the "tribalisID," &c. to which Mr. Bund refers is not far to seek. In any ettse the Catholic Church takes time to a missionary country under proper ecclesiasti- cal organisation. St. Augustine did great work ^ttiong the Anglo-Saxons, but nothing deserving the name of Church organisation was carried out before the advent of Archbishop Theodore in this country. It is long since St. Francis Xavier "Planted the Church firmly in India, but it is only in our own day that the result of his work is being Put under proper organisation and control. Here •and there the son of a bishop or a priest became himself a bishop, a priest,$md so Mr. Bund thinks celibacy of the clergy was not insisted upon. He does not appear to be aware that such cases are not infrequent in the Catholic Church at the Present day. Many widowers become priests, sometimes their sons enter the same calling. But it is possible that in 8°me places and at sometimes a sort of clerical marriages may have been tolerated. In countries where the Church was far better l°oked after than in Britain, such scandals were not very rare before the great Pope Gregory VII. himself, resolutely to his work of reforming ^Uses. Mr. Bund's idea of married men and living promiscuous-like in a monastery the modern Shakers all to fits. No man less Original and fertile in suggesting wild theories have hit upon such a happy solution of difficulties. If Mr. Bund has not yet up the imaginary speech of the supposed Abbot Dinooth it is a pity he has not adhered to the theory of the Eastern origin of the British Church. One would be as easy to maintain as the other. What a wonderful mare's nest Mr. Willis Bund has discovered in the mnUai that elected St. David archbishop. Electing bishops is hardly the wo k of the sasn'rn. but let that pass. Is Mr. Bund so deficient in historical knowledge as not to be aware that all the bishops, including the Popes them- selves, were in ancient times chosen by the popu- lar vote. It is not so now, he will say. Truly, no. The Catholic Church has not a conge (Vel-ire, or any other rule of election imposed upon her by Act of Parliament. In this and other respects she vastly improved her discipline and various usages ot her own creation. Neither do her chil- dren worship in catacombs, as of old. and yet she continues unchanged. There is nothing in the unchanging doctrine of the Catholic Church con- trary to popular election it is a question of dis- cipline. As to the canonisation of saints, it could hardly have been more a matter of popular suff- rage anciently than it is now. But I suppose Mr. Bund thinks the present mode of canonising* saints is for the Pope to say "Go to let us make a saint. Where shall I find an individual who seems to be worthy of canonisation It would be easy to show that Mr. Bund's ideas about the old British heresies are absolutely child- ish, as well as false. I have not seen your issue of the 12th, in which Aliquis promises to consider which Church is the" true modern representative of the faith of the fathers." If it helps him, I cheerfully admit that ancient British Christianity was outwardly far more like Protestant Nonconformity than it was like modern Anglicanism. In all our mis- sionary countries, where the converts are only half instructed, and no proper Church organisation is established. Catholics look. from the outside, very much like Protestants. But there is all the diffe- rence in the world between the chaos out of which comes order and the chaos which is doomed to remain chaos until it ceases to eiiist.—I am. ceo., II. C. TIERNEY. Carmarthen, 29th February, 1891. ■<&— R.A.O.B. RELIEF FUND. TO THE EDITOR OF THE SOUTH WALES STAR. Sis,—I have much pleasure in forwarding you a complete list of the donations received re Barry Drowning Relief Fund which I trust you will publish in order to convince the general public that the Order is not so black as it has been painted by some of the correspondents of your con- temporary of late. I also wish to heartily thank the several ladies [and gentlemen of this dis- trict. and the subscribing lodges throughout the kingdom on behalf of the bereaved families, and the brethren of the Loyal Victoria Lodge, Barry Dock for their kind co-operation and support in this deserving case. I also wish it to be under- stood that the Royal Antedeluvian Order of Buffaloes is in no way, officially, connected with any of the clubs at present in existence in our dis- trict. It has been unanimously decided that any donations which may be received from this date after closing of the above fund shall be handed over to Mrs. Brownsell, whose husband was drowned in the steamship Prince Soltykoff. taking into consideration the fact that she has been left with a family unprovided for. Thanking you in anticipation and for past favours.—I remain, yours, &c., J. HARRISON, Hon. Sec. R.A.O.B. Relief Fund. [The total sum subscribed amounts to £172 lis. 31d.. which has been divided in the following way :—Mrs. Jackson, £49 5s. 4d. Mrs. Redmond, £49 ils. 4d. Mrs. McDonald. £49 5s. 4d. Mrs. Brownsell (re Prince Soltykoff disaster), £24 3Jd. Mr. Harrison deserves the warmest thanks of the general public for his praiseworthy action.— EL). S. H —— SANITARY CONDITION OF PWLLANDREAS. TO THE EDITOR OF THE SOUTH WALES STAR. SIR-Will you please allow me a short space in your valuable journal to call the Sanitary Inspec- tor's attention to the condition of the above place, which is in a most disgraceful state. There are about twelve houses facing the road that leads from Brynmenin Tondu which is a parish read) and almost all the nuisance from these houses is thrown out into the road, which is most noxious to the passers by, leaving out of account those that live at the placej Both the drains each side of the road are full of this nuisance. Just below this place the stench is unbearable, even now at this time of the year. I don't know what it will be when the hot weather comes on. If there is no- thing done before the hot weather comes, there will, be a very serious time of it at this place. I cannot make out what has become of our Inspec- tor, and what the members of the Board are think- ing of themselves. I believe they are all gone on their holidays. I wish to call the attention of the ratepayers; of this district to this matter, and ask them to take some steps towards getting a little reform in this direction, and see that these paid officials are doing their duty. I, myself, don't believe in keeping idle people. I will not say any more at present, but, unless something is done here before long, I will have another word in another direction that will be sure to bring some one to account for all this neglect. Thanking you. Mr. Editor, for a small space for these few lines, which I hope will meet the eye of our Inspector, and also the ratepayers of the district.—I am, PEACEFUL PAUL. Abergarw. MR. OLIVER JONES' MEETING AT LLANCARFAN. TO THE EDITOR OF THE SOUTH WALES STAR. SIR,—Allow me a brief space in your valuable columns to call attention of all Liberals and fellow-workmen to a meeting concerning the County Council election of Dinas Powis district held at the above quarter of the electorate in which Mr. 0. H. Jones gave an account of his stewardship. In all meetings of the kind every person that undertakes to speak should be aware that he is a subject for the audience to form an opinion of. consequently he must either enjoy the applause and approval, or endure the criticism and perhaps censure of those that he offends and betrays. Since Judas Joseph has opened the gap. there are others of less significance undoubtedly, but of the same spirit and emotion, who feel obliged or rather take advantage of the occassion to follow in the same steps of which we had a pure specimen at the above meeting. What more inconsistent, than a Liberal and also a Noncon- formist preacher, moving a resolution in favour of the present councillor, who, on any grounds, cannot be termed a Liberal and not only so, but taking for granted that his conduct three years ago in supporting the paid councillor, who was then as he is now of the same colours, was so much wiser than his (then) opponents. Will the respected gentleman hold this attitude in face of his pre- vious Liberal policy, and, therefore, endeavour to observe the anomalous and inconsistent position that he has placed himself. We cannot come to any other conclusion because it would be rather too much of an exaggeration to believe and say that he is wiser tha.u the whole Liberal federation, which issued a manifesto to fight the coming elections on political grounds, and certainly all of us would rather abide by the judgment of this whole body, than the opinion of this single individual. Indeed, if we are not mistaken, very much of the story, by which he com- pared the conduct of his opponents, could be applied with much more grace and appropriate- ness to explain his own bewildered position than any others. We only wish that we could open his eyes fully to see himself in the fog. surrounded with mist travelling over a very precipitous mountain of stray thoughts, unsound judgment, and mistaken policy. But the reason that I draw the attention of my Liberal comrades to this affair is because he always ranks himself on the Liberal side, especially in a Liberal meeting. There he is the best man. Fel- low-Liberals, where are we going, and what are we approaching ? Is the fox to have the key of the fowl-house the wolf the care of the sheep and men of base. shallow, whiggish principles, whose politics extend no farther than three miles square, allowed to remain the hypocritical leaders of the advanced and progressive Liberal party ? The idea is absurd, and needs no comment; there- fore let us awake, pluck up spirit, and trust no man but as far as he represents our real feelings and convictions also let us clean and sweep the house of all dross, alloy, and tell every traitor to honour their history, retire into their own place, so that the Liberal van of progress may travel faster and swifter. Moreover, before leaving you let me also pass a word of remark on another bla- tant, arrogant, and offensive speech, delivered by an apostolical successor, a State-paid parson. We wonder at the discretion of this reverend gentle- man. The candidate he supported, courting the votes as an Independent, claiming no party politi- cal creed, when his supporter, this reverend gentleman, could not refrain without entering into the very heart of party politics. Where was the tremendous amount of sense that he boasted of lately, so infinitely wiser than some single indi- vidual living in his parish, who, by the bye, was wise enough to contribute a considerable portion of his salary, receiving nothing in return, because he never enters the portals of his sacred place. Undoubtedly the reverend gentleman thought that he had frightened the planets and their gods; leaving alone the weak and weary in the marching tribe, by alluding to the expenditure of America and France in maintaining their members of Government. which is such grievous burden upon them, different to what we have in the British Isles." We would remind the respected vicar that the cheapest is not alwaws the best, and that what is very cheap is also very nasty. Certainly the payment of members would incur a great amount of expenditure but what if we were to nationalize the expenses of State-cloth and reduce a little on the expenses of our mon- archical system. We may perhaps meet even that great innovation with some amount of confidence, well assured that to pay legislators is far better than to pay for legisl:1tioll,-I am, &:< HOME RULER. WEXYOE TUNNEL RAILWAY ACCIDENT. TO THE BDITon OF THE SOUTH WALES STAR. DEAR SIR,—We beg to call the attention of the public to the advertisement of the meeting called by the Rev. E. Morris for the purpose of raising a relief fond. All in sympathy with the movement are earnestly requested to attend.—Yours. &c., HYWEL L. ROGERS. |g frm ALFRED W. ROGERS, j J

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